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OKAY, WELL, SHE'S

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WORKING ON THAT.

GOOD EVENING.

[Environmental Commission on June 10, 2026.]

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, JUNE 10TH, AND THE TIME IS NOW FIVE 40.

UM, I'LL BE PRESIDING OVER TONIGHT'S MEETING.

SINCE CHAIR GARRA IS PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY, WE WELCOME YOUR PARTICIPATION, UM, IN THE MEETINGS AND THE LANGUAGE OF YOUR PREFERENCE.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TRANSLATION OR OTHER ACCESSIBILITY SERVICES, PLEASE CALL 4 6 9 7 2 4 6 5 3 8 2 DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING WILL BE ON AUGUST 12TH AT FIVE 30.

GIMME JUST ONE SECOND.

ONE SECOND, Y'ALL.

OKAY, Y'ALL, UM, WE'RE GONNA START WITH ROLL CALL MEMBERS.

UH, A REMINDER THAT IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY, YOUR CAMERA HAS TO BE ON THE DURATION OF THE MEETING.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, I MEAN, WHEN I CALL YOUR DISTRICT, PLEASE ANSWER WITH YOUR NAME.

EVERYONE ELSE CAN ANSWER PRESENT DISTRICT ONE.

I DON'T SEE JORDAN DISTRICT TWO, NOT HERE.

DISTRICT THREE IS VACANT.

DISTRICT FOUR IS VACANT.

I'M DISTRICT FIVE.

DISTRICT SIX IS VACANT.

DISTRICT SEVEN I BELIEVE IS OUT OF TOWN.

DISTRICT DATE, I'M HERE.

DISTRICT NINE, WHO CAN SEE, BUT NOT HERE.

UM, DISTRICT 10, ANDREW SIEGEL.

ANDREW, WILL YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? ANDREW SIEGEL.

OKAY.

I CANNOT HEAR YOU.

UM, SO Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME, BUT WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

DANG.

ANY IDEA? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OKAY.

BUT I, AND ONE OF Y'ALL RESPOND TO ME.

SORRY.

HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. HOFFMAN.

YAY.

UH, CHAIR GARRA.

CAN YOU RESPOND? CATHERINE GARRA.

AWESOME.

LIFE IS GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

DISTRICT 11.

WHITNEY DEARLY.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT 12, DISTRICT 13.

REBECCA POSTON, DISTRICT 14, HOLIDAY DISTRICT 15 IS ON HER WAY.

UM, MS. BE HERE.

DR.

BORO? OKAY.

UH, MS. STRAUS? MR. HOFFMAN? .

OKAY.

HERE.

HERE.

MR. MARQUIS.

PRESENT.

DR.

JACK.

PRESENT.

DR.

AYE.

AND, UM, DO WE HAVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS EVENING? NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS THIS EVENING.

OKAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT, THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR MINUTES.

ANYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO READ THE MINUTES? HOPEFULLY.

DID YOU HAVE ANY, UM, CHANGES, CORRECTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MAY.

SO THE SECOND RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

UM, AND WE HAVE, UH, YEAH.

UH, AND A SECOND.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE'RE STILL, OH,

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NO, HE'S HERE.

GOOD DEAL.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

AND OUR SPEAKER TONIGHT IS DR. ERIC JONES, UTA.

UM, AND CAN, CAN YOU SHOW DR. JONES FOR, TO COME TO PRESENT? THANK YOU, DR.

JACK.

DR. JONES IS A PROFESSOR OF ENGINEERING AT UTA.

AND, UM, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ALL THIS WAY TO, UH, PRESENT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THE GREEN WARRIORS ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROJECT.

AND I WILL BE MAKING A LIST OF FOLKS, UH, AFTER THE PRESENTATION WHO WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS.

AND, UM, ON YOUR MICROPHONE, DR. JONES, YOU'VE GOT A, A BUTTON TO SPEAK.

TESTING.

OH, I'M SORRY.

STEPHANIE, DO YOU HAVE THE SLIDES UP? THIS IS THE REPORT.

THIS IS THE REPORT.

WE NEED THE, UH, POWERPOINT THAT WAS, I THINK, SENT AS A PDF.

DR. JONES, WHILE WE'RE WAITING, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, UM, TELL US ABOUT THIS WORK AND, AND MAYBE OTHER WORK THAT YOU LIKE YOUR SEER LAB AND OF COURSE, UT? YEAH, NOT A PROBLEM.

MY NAME IS ERIC JONES.

I'M AN ASSISTANT PROFESSOR IN THE INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING SYSTEMS DEPARTMENT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.

ARLINGTON.

UH, MY WORK SPANS THE PHYSICAL, DIGITAL, AND INSTITUTIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ENERGY CRITICAL NEURAL SYSTEMS. AND A BIG PART OF THAT IS RESIDENTIAL ENERGY.

SO THIS IS WHAT INSPIRED THIS WORK.

UH, THIS IDEA CAME FROM TRACY ACTUALLY ON, UH, WHAT IF WE CAN NAVIGATE SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, HURDLES FOR LOW INCOME HOMES TO GET WEATHERIZED.

UH, ONE OF THE KEY ONES IS THAT YOU CAN'T WEATHERIZE A HOME IF IT'S FALLING APART.

UH, SO WE COMBINE THAT WITH, UM, SOUTHERN DALLAS PROGRESS, CDC, WHO DOES SOME OF THE MINOR HOME REPAIRS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

COMBINE THAT WITH THE ORGANIZATION.

AND THAT ENDED UP WITH THIS PROJECT.

UH, MY ROLE IN HERE WAS TO ANALYZE THE ENERGY DATA AND TO SEE IF THE PROGRAM WAS EFFECTIVE AT ITS, UH, TWO TASKS.

ONE WAS TO TRAIN LOCAL RESIDENTS ON HOW TO PERFORM THIS WORK.

UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JOBS STAY LOCAL AND ALSO, UH, DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAVE MONEY OR, OR THEY BUILD BETTER, UM, OR IF NOT, WHY NOT? AND IS THAT GOOD OR BAD? SO THAT'S SOME OF THE STUFF THAT I WANNA COVER TODAY IN THE PRESENTATION.

I BELIEVE THAT'S 20 MINUTES.

SO I THINK I'LL SKIP THE FIRST SENTENCE SLIDES.

THAT'S JUST BACKGROUND ON ME AND THE PROJECT.

UH, BUT YEAH, NO, I, THERE IT IS.

OKAY.

UH, WE CAN PROBABLY SKIP DOWN, I THINK, WHAT, 15, 20 MINUTES.

SO THAT'S JUST THE AGENDA, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROBLEM.

AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL

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GO THROUGH THE STEPS ON NEXT SLIDE.

UH, SO THAT'S ME, BUT I ALREADY TOLD YOU WHO I'M, SO I CAN SKIP THAT SLIDE TOO.

UH, THAT'S SOME OF THE WORK WE DO.

UM, LIKE I SAID, EXTRACTION CURRICULUM, VARIABLE ASSET MONITORING, ET CETERA.

NEXT SLIDE.

THAT'S THE LAB.

UM, SO AGAIN, SIX MAJOR AREAS.

ENERGY SYSTEMS IS ONE OF 'EM.

AND THEN I DO ALL THIS IN THE LAB.

I TRAIN STUDENTS ON IT AND THEY HELP ME.

ANALYTICAL WORK.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, I GUESS A LITTLE ADVERTISEMENT ON ETA.

WE'RE DOWN THE STREET ABOUT, WELL, USUALLY 15 MINUTES.

TODAY WAS A LITTLE LONGER.

UH, 42,000 STUDENTS.

A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY IN ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE.

DR. JONES.

I STAND CORRECTED 10 MINUTES, IF YOU DON'T MIND, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS EVEN FASTER.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SORRY.

SO YOU CAN SKIP THE PROBABLY NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE, NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE.

ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.

UH, SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? WHAT'S THE BACKGROUND? NEXT SLIDE.

THIS PROGRAM TARGETED TWO ZIP CODES IN, IN DALLAS, 7 5 2 1 0 7 5 2 1 5.

UH, THEY'RE THE TWO, OR AT LEAST THEY WERE, UH, WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT, THE TWO LOWEST ZIP CODES IN DALLAS, OVER ABOUT 50% OF THE AREA LIVES BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.

AND RESIDENTS SPEND A BIG CHUNK OF CHANGE ON THEIR ENERGY BILL.

WE CALL THAT AN ENERGY BURDEN.

SO TYPICALLY 6% OR HIGHER IS, UH, ENERGY BURDENED, AND THEY WERE SPENDING ALMOST HALF OF THEIR INCOME.

SO THAT WAS THE TARGET AREA.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THERE IT IS AGAIN, THE TARGET AREA, AND THE HIT ON THE MAP ON THE RIGHT, THE DARKER COLOR OR, UH, HIGHER POVERTY LEVELS.

AND ON THE LEFT SHOWS IT BY DEMOGRAPHICS.

SO YELLOW IS BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN, UH, GREEN AND HISPANIC, LATINO.

SO YOU SEE THIS AREA IS BLACK, BROWN AND POOR.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THESE ARE PICTURES WE TOOK BEFOREHAND OF WHAT THE HOMES LOOK LIKE.

THEY'RE ATTICS THE OUTSIDE, AND YOU SEE THAT THERE'S ALMOST NO INSULATION IN THERE.

THEY'RE RELATIVELY OLDER HOMES.

SO THIRTIES POSTWAR ERROR TYPE HOMES, INSTALLATION THEY DO HAVE IS ROTTING AND, AND KIND OF ON THE WAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED WITH.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO WHY DID THEY LOOK LIKE THAT? THESE HOMES ARE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.

UH, WHY HAS NO ONE DONE ANYTHING? SO THE WEATHERIZATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, THE FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT YOU USUALLY GO TO FOR AID IN THESE IN SITUATIONS, UH, WILL NOT WEATHERIZE YOUR HOME IF IT HAS HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES.

SO, MOLD, ACKING, WOOD, ET CETERA.

AND THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT THESE HOMES ARE FACING.

SO WE HAVE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM FIRST BEFORE WE CAN GET TO THE WEATHERIZATION PART.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO, PROGRAM DESIGN AND PARTNERS.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE HAVE FOUR OBJECTIVES.

NUMBER ONE, LOWER THE ENERGY BILLS.

PROVE THE CONCEPT THAT YOU CAN TAKE LOCAL WORKERS FROM THE COMMUNITY, HAVE TO WEATHERIZE HOMES AND REDUCE CALLS FOR THE RESIDENTS.

UH, CREATE LIVING WAGE WORK.

SO THAT'S THE GREEN WARRIORS PART.

SO THAT WAS, UH, A TERM COINED BY FAR ANDREWS, WHO USED TO WORK IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UH, AND THEN PROVIDE THE CITY WITH DATA TO SCALE.

SO THIS IS A PILOT.

THE, THE EVENTUAL GOAL IS THAT YOU CAN TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND SCALE IT UP.

SO WE DID SEVEN HOMES, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU COULD DO A HUNDRED.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE INTERVENTION WAS A LITTLE LESS THAN FOUR GRAND.

A HOME TOTAL INVESTMENT ACROSS THE HOMES, UH, NOT INCLUDING DATA ANALYTICS WAS, UH, ABOUT FOUR GRAND.

SO ATTIC INSTALLATION ALONE WAS ABOUT THREE GRAND OF THAT AIR CEILING WAS A SEVEN 50, AND THEN LEDS WAS ONE 50, SO THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY WENT.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, SHOUT OUT TO THE PARTNERS.

SO OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY HERE AT CITY OF DALLAS, SOUTHERN DALLAS, PROGRESS, CDC, THE GREEN WARRIORS THEMSELVES, GREEN CAREERS, TEXAS, UH, THE ST.

PHILIP SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY CENTER IN, UH, IS THAT EAST SOUTHEASTERN DALLAS? AND THEN UTA, NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO WHAT DO WE HAVE TO WORK WITH DATA-WISE? WE HAD THEIR MONTHLY UTILITY BILLS FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

SO COLLECTING THAT IS A, UH, FOR FUTURE PROGRAMS, I WOULD, I WOULD'VE COME UP WITH A BETTER MECHANISM.

SO WE WENT TO THE RESIDENTS AND SOME OF 'EM, UH, HADN'T SEEN THEIR MAILED UTILITY BILLS IN MON STATE, SO WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH THEM TO CONTACT THE UTILITY.

UH, EVERY HOME IN TEXAS CAN, HAS A SMART METER NOW, AND YOU CAN PULL THAT DATA FROM THE WEB, BUT FIRST YOU NEED YOUR UTILITY NUMBER.

SO, UH, ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS, UH, HAVE A STRONG, SO SOUTHERN DALLAS COMMUNITY, UH, CDC HAS A STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO THEY WOULD ACTUALLY GO INTO THEIR HOMES, TALK TO THEM, AND WORK THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO FOR FUTURE, THAT'S A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PART FOR DATA COLLECTION, ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO GET ALL THAT, WE CAN GET SMART METER DATA, WHICH IS IN 15 MINUTE ERROR RULES FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, AND ANALYZE THAT BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER IN INTERVENTION.

UH, THERE WAS A COUPLE OUTLIERS.

SO ONE OF THE HOMES, UH, HAD A 80% REDUCTION IN ENERGY.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT, BUT I CAN'T, IT'S MOST LIKELY THAT HOME WAS VACANT.

SO PEOPLE GO THROUGH, UH, LIFE CYCLES OF LIVING

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HOMES, LEAVING HOMES, ET CETERA.

AND ONE HAD AN 18% INCREASE.

AND THEN THAT WAS UNDER INVESTIGATION WHEN I LOOKED AT THESE SLIDES.

BUT, UH, THAT IS ACTUALLY THE REBOUND EFFECT, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE LATER.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO, RESULTS AND KEY FINDINGS.

UH, SO THIS IS A GRAPH THAT SHOWS MORE OR LESS JUST WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU PULL THE 15 MINUTE, UH, METER DATA.

SO WE PLOTTED EACH HOME THE YELLOW BARS INTERVENTION PHASE, AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE ANYTHING FROM HERE.

SO I'LL JUST, I'LL EXPLAIN IT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

UH, SO OVERALL, THE PROGRAM REDUCED ENERGY, UH, USAGE BY 10%.

SO IT'S A 7.3% REDUCTION IF YOU EXCLUDE THE OUTLIERS.

UH, SO THAT SAVES HOMES ABOUT 200 BUCKS, UH, $225 A YEAR.

UH, THE, THE HOME WITH THE BIGGEST REDUCTION WAS HOME FOUR, WHICH HAD 13.4% REDUCTION, UH, WHICH SAVED IT 780, UH, DOLLARS PER YEAR IN THE PAYBACK PERIOD OF THIS IN UNDER FIVE YEARS.

AND THESE ARE RELATIVELY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES, BECAUSE SINCE THIS WAS A LIMITED, UH, STUDY, UH, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SUMMERS LOOK LIKE.

AND THE SUMMERS FOR, UH, THIS YEAR WAS ABOUT 2%, TWO DEGREES COOLER, AND THE PRE THAN THE POST, UH, AND THE REBOUND EFFECTS OF WHAT IS THE REBOUND EFFECT.

SO IF YOU HAVE A HOME THAT'S INEFFICIENT, YOU ARE ONLY GONNA TURN THE AC ON WHEN, UH, IT'S REALLY, REALLY HOT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TIME YOU LITERALLY SEE YOUR MONEY FLOWING OUT THE DOOR.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE COOL AIR GOING FROM OUT TO YOUR HOUSE TO ALL THE HOLES IN YOUR HOUSE, EITHER UNDER THE DOOR, UNDER THE WINDOW, WHEREVER THE CASE MAY BE.

SO YOU WANT TO REDUCE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UH, BUT WHEN YOU SEE THAT YOUR HOME IS MORE EFFICIENT, YOU'RE MORE WILLING TO TURN THE THESE TO LIVE HIGHER, A LITTLE HIGHER COMFORT LEVEL, BECAUSE YOUR MONEY IS NOT LITERALLY GOING OUT THE DOOR NOW.

NOW YOU ACTUALLY FEEL THE BENEFITS.

SO USUALLY YOU HAVE USE INTERVENTIONS.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOUND EFFECT WHERE PEOPLE USE THEIR ELECTRICITY OR THEY USE THEIR AC MORE.

AND SOMETIMES I SEE SEASON ELECTRICITY INCREASE, BUT SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T.

AND THAT IS THE EFFECT OF WEATHERIZATION.

SO IT'S NOT JUST TO SAVE MONEY, BUT ALSO TO INCREASE COMFORT, ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THESE OLDER RESIDENTS WHO YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE AND ONLY TURN THE AC WHEN IT'S 85 DEGREES IN HOUSE.

YOU WANT THEM TO BE RELATIVELY COMFORTABLE YEAR ROUND.

UM, SO REBOUND EFFECT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, LITTLE EASIER.

IT'S HARD TO SEE BROKEN UP BY HOME.

SO THE RED DOTS ARE THE YEAR BEFORE, AND THE BLUE DOTS ARE THE YEAR AFTER.

YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLIER HOME AND HOME FOUR WERE JUST DROPPED OFF A CLIFF.

UH, BUT THE OTHER ONES IS, AND IT'S THE SAME THING WITH HOME THREE, BUT THE OTHER ONE'S JUST A LITTLE HARD TO SEE.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

HERE'S THE BEFORE AND AFTER BY MONTH AGAIN.

SO THE BLUE IS BEFORE THE RED IS AFTER.

YOU CAN SEE IN HOME ONE, THERE'S A DRAMATIC FALL IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU HOPE FOR.

SO YOU HOPE THAT PEOPLE USE THEIR AC IN THE SUMMER WHEN IT'S THE HOTTEST.

A LITTLE HIGHER IN THE WINTER MONTHS.

UH, BUT USUALLY YOU'LL TAKE THAT TREE OFF IN TEXAS IS USUALLY NOT THAT COLD.

UM, AND, AND OVERALL JUST GENERAL TRENDS.

SO DIVING A LITTLE DEEPER.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO, HOME ONE, ESSENTIALLY FLAT.

THEY USE THEIR AC MORE, BUT IT'S MORE EFFICIENT.

SO THEIR, UH, CALL THE ROI FROM A PURE COST PERSPECTIVE IS ALMOST FLAT.

BUT FROM A, UH, A HOUSEHOLD PERSPECTIVE, AND IT JUST SHOWED UP IN THE SURVEY, THERE WAS ALSO A SURVEY.

UH, THEY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY COULD RUN THEIR AC MORE TO BE MORE COMFORTABLE IN THE SUMMER.

UH, HOME TWO, UH, SAVED MONEY IN THE, IN THE SUMMER, UH, PAID MORE IN THE WINTER.

BUT OVERALL, THEY SAVED MONEY BECAUSE OUR, THEIR SUMMER BILLS ARE HIGHER THAN THE WINTER BILLS.

HOME.

FOUR SAVED A TON OF MONEY.

UH, HOME SIX WAS A LITTLE BALANCED WITH HOME.

SEVEN, SAME THING.

YOU SAVE MONEY IN THE, IN THE SUMMER, BUT MAYBE USE A LITTLE MORE IN THE WINTER.

AND THEN THERE WAS TWO OUTLIERS.

SO THOSE ARE THE HOME BY HOME RESULTS.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT OUR DATA SHOWED.

I THINK NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE JUST PICTURES.

SO NEXT SLIDE, AND WE'LL SKIP OVER SOME OF THESE.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, SAME IDEA.

USUALLY THERE'S MORE ELECTRICITY USE IN THE WINTER AS A RESULT OF THEM CRANKING THEIR, THE WINTER, SEASONAL CHANGES, ET CETERA.

BUT SAVING IN THE SUMMER IS, IS A BIG DEAL IN TEXAS.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

WE'LL SKIP THIS ONE.

NEXT SLIDE.

EXPLAIN THIS ONE.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH OH, AND IT'S A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT.

SO 2025 WAS COOLER THAN IN THE WINTER AND THE SUMMER THAN 2024.

SO HOME SHORING REDUCTIONS ACHIEVED THEM NATURALLY WITH LOWER HEATING COOLING DEMANDS.

SO THE SAVINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT UNDERSTATED.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

AND KIND TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

HERE ARE THE TEMPERATURES, BUT YOU READ THE PORT FOR THESE DETAILS.

UH, WE'LL SKIP THIS SLIDE, THIS SLIDE.

HERE WE GO.

SO THE RAW NUMBERS, WE AGGREGATED HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY EACH HOME USED.

AND SO MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEIR ANNUAL USE OF ENERGY IS IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD.

UM, MY HOUSE IS ABOUT 2000 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S RELATIVELY NEW.

AND I USE LESS ELECTRICITY THAN HOME FOUR, SIX, AND SEVEN.

SO MY HOME WAS ABOUT TWICE THE SIZE.

IT'S NEWER AND I USE LESS ELECTRICITY, AND I'M NOT IN POVERTY.

SO THESE PEOPLE, PAYING MORE TO GET LESS OUT IS

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REALLY THE, THE MOTIVATING FACTOR OF THIS STUDY IS ONE, TO QUANTIFY IT, AND TWO, TO ASK WHY, AND THREE, WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PIECE.

SO THIS IS THE FUN PART.

SO THE GREEN WARRIORS, UH, I WISH I HAD GOT MORE PICTURES OF THEM, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS THEM TAKING INSTALLATION INTO THIS HOUSE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH A TRAINING PROGRAM.

SO THE CITY OF DALLAS INVESTED IN THE ENERGY SMART ACADEMIES, FREE WEATHERIZATION BUILDING SCIENCES PROGRAMS. SO THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THE COURSES.

SO THEY HAD A FOUNDATIONAL EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND TRAINING.

UH, IT WAS SELF-PACED, AND ONCE THEY WENT THROUGH THAT, THEN THEY COULD ACTUALLY DO THE WORK.

SO THAT WAS A HANDS-ON APPRENTICESHIP TYPE OF WORK WHERE THEY SHOWED THAT THEY COULD TAKE WHAT THEY LEARNED AND ACTUALLY APPLY IT TO, UH, THE HOUSE OF THE COMMUNITY.

THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE FROM THE ZIP CODES, IOWA.

SO THEY LEARN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY BUILDING ON THOSE SCIENCE, UH, WHEN INSTALLATION TO BUY, AND THEN ACTUALLY DID THE WORK.

UH, AND THAT WAS LAN SMITH AND ROBERT JENKIN.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, SO SOLVING TWO PROBLEMS AT ONCE.

UH, HOME EFFICIENCY AND LIVING WAGE, WORKFORCE PIPELINE, ENERGY BURDEN REDUCTION.

SO WE SEE, UH, IN SUMMER, WORKING REALLY WELL IN THE WINTER IS A LITTLE BIT OF A REBOUND, BUT AGAIN, LIKE I EXPLAINED, THAT'S NOT BAD.

UH, WORKFORCE EQUITY.

SO AS THESE JOBS BECOME MORE PREVALENT AS WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE, UH, ELECTRICITY AND REDUCE OUR BILLS BECAUSE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, DATA CENTER, ENERGY SPIKES OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THIS IS A OPTION THAT THE CITY CAN INVEST IN THAT KNOCKS OUT TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.

AND THE EQUITY ALIGNMENT, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHERE EQUITY IS AT THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT IN GENERAL, IT'S A GOOD THING TO HAVE, UH, THOSE, UM, WHO ARE THE LEAST EVANGEL AMONG US TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE TYPE OF PROGRAMS. NEXT SLIDE.

UH, SO R OUR NEXT STEPS.

UH, SO NEXT SLIDE.

SO AGAIN, SO IT'S ABOUT $3,750 PER HOME.

THIS WHOLE PROGRAM WAS $26,000 AND 250, UH, TWO $6,250.

UH, WE WEATHER AT SEVEN HOMES.

AND THEN IT HAD A PRETTY BIG IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE, NOT ONLY IN MONEY, BUT IN COMFORT AND SAFETY, UH, GOING PEOPLE TO OVERHEAT IN THE SUMMER.

IN THE WINTER, THEY WOULD USE THEIR ELECTRICITY MORE TO STAY, STAY WARM, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

AND IT, THE IL THE IMPACT ON YOUR RESIDENTS WAS, WAS HUGE.

THE SURVEY SHOWED THAT THEY REALLY APPRECIATED THIS PROGRAM.

AND IT WASN'T JUST, WE SIGNED UP FOR A PROGRAM, WAITED A YEAR, THEY SHOWED UP, AND THEN THEY SAID, OH, WE ACTUALLY CAN'T DO THIS BECAUSE X, Y, AND Z REASON.

THIS WAS A PROGRAM THAT DELIVERED ON WHAT IT PROMISED.

AND THE LAST SLIDE, UH, SO RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE NEXT STEP EXPAND THE PROGRAM.

UH, SEVEN HOMES IS, IS IMPACTFUL FOR THOSE SEVEN RESIDENTS, BUT YOU CAN DO MORE, UH, CONTINUE DATA COLLECTION.

SO THIS IS THE, OH, WHAT I THINK IS THE, THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF HOW DO YOU SELL THIS AS A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.

WE SHOW THE NUMBERS.

YOU SHOW THAT YOU DID A SURVEY OF THE RESIDENTS, YOU MONITORED THE ENERGY, SEE WHAT THE IMPACT ACTUALLY WAS, UH, SCALE, THE GREEN WARRIORS TRAINING PROGRAM.

SO AGAIN, IT'S, THIS IS WORK THAT YOU CAN DO WITH PEOPLE LOCALLY IN THE COMMUNITY, AND ALSO WORK WITH THESE RESIDENTS TO EXPLORE RATE SHOPPING.

SO I, I DIDN'T MENTION THIS WHEN I WAS SHOWING THE COST OF THEIR BILLS, SO THAT'S WHY I SHOWED THE RAW NUMBERS OF THEIR KILOWATT HOURS, HOW MUCH THEY USED.

BUT SOME OF 'EM WERE ON PLANS THAT WERE TERRIBLE.

YEAH.

SO THEY WERE PAYING LIKE 30 CENTS.

I ONE, YOU KNOW, I'M PAYING LIKE 15.

SO THAT, THAT COULD BE A RESIDENT, JUST INFORMATION THAT THE, THE CITY COULD PROVIDE.

AND I BELIEVE THIS IS MY ACTUAL LAST ONE.

UH, SO KEY TAKEAWAY, TARGETED WEATHERIZATION IN SOUTH DALLAS'S MOST ENERGY BURDEN, UH, HOMES, REDUCES ENERGY BILL, INCREASES USEFUL ENERGY SERVICES, TRAINS COMMUNITY WORKERS, AND GIVES THE CITY DATA TO SCALE.

AND I HOPE YOU TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND EX EXPAND PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, AND SO I'LL LOOK AROUND.

WANNA SPEAK YOU, ANYBODY ONLINE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

UH, WE'LL START WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER HEMO.

DR. JONES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE WITH US TONIGHT.

AND THANK YOU FOR LEADING THIS EFFORT, UH, FOR CLIMATE JUSTICE, FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION.

UH, A REALLY, UH, IMPRESSIVE PILOT.

UH, THREE RAPID FIRE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

UH, WHO FUNDED THE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT THAT RESULTED IN LESS THAN $4,000 OF COST PER EACH HOME? WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS, UH, TO ACTION THE INSIGHTS AND THE LESSONS LEARNED? AND HOW CAN EBC THIS COMMISSION HELP SUPPORT SCALING THESE EFFORTS? UH, SO THE FIRST ONE, THIS WAS, UH, SUPPORTED BY CITY OF DALLAS', ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ENVIRONMENTAL, I ALWAYS FORGET THAT ACRONYM, BUT THEY, THEY WERE THE FUNDERS OF IT.

UH, THE NEXT STEPS IS, IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU.

UH, THESE ARE THE RESULTS.

I'M HOPING YOU CAN TAKE THESE AND EITHER PUSH CITY HALL OR WHOEVER, PRIVATE, UH, PHILANTHROPY, WHOEVER, TO SHOW THAT THIS IS AN IMPACTFUL PROGRAM.

I'M HERE TO HELP, BUT, UH, I'M JUST A PROFESSOR.

I JUST, I JUST RUN THE NUMBERS.

AND THE LAST QUESTION, HOW CAN WE HELP SUPPORT YOU IN THIS EFFORT? OH, .

WELL, REALLY, I, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT YOU.

SO WHAT, WHATEVER YOU NEED ME TO, TO HELP YOU SELL THIS TO WHOEVER IT NEEDS TO BE SOLD TO, I CAN HELP WITH THAT.

UM, I AM A EMPLOYEE OF THE STATE, SO I DON'T THINK I'M

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ALLOWED TO LOBBY, BUT I, I CAN HELP OR I CAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR.

CHAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR WALLACE.

AND THANK YOU, DR. JONES.

UM, I AM VERY, VERY, I HAVE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

I'VE BEEN VERY EXCITED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND, AND ESPECIALLY TO SEE IT SCALE.

AND A COUPLE OF POINTS.

I WANTED TO JUST ADD TO THE BUR THE PROBLEM YOU PORTRAYED.

'CAUSE I KNOW YOU WERE CONCERNED WITH TIME, SO YOU WENT THROUGH THE SLIDES PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT I HOPE THEY'RE GONNA BE MADE PUBLIC AND WE'LL ALL HAVE COPIES.

UM, JUST TO SHARE MORE ABOUT THE ENERGY BURDEN, SO GIVES THESE TWO ZIP CODES ARE THE POOREST IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THESE FAMILIES ARE MAKING VERY, VERY DIFFICULT CHOICES WHEN IT COMES TO PAYING THEIR BILLS.

WE KNOW, I, IN MY DAY JOB, I WORK FOR TEXAS ENERGY POVERTY RESEARCH INSTITUTE, AND WE KNOW ACROSS THE STATE, 50% OF FAMILIES ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR BILLS EVEN WORSE IN THESE TWO ZIP CODES.

AND WE HAVE THE PERCENTAGE, 46, 40 TO 60% OF INCOME GOING TOWARDS ENERGY BILLS, 65% OF LOW TO MODERATE INCOME TEXANS.

AND EVEN MORE SO IN THESE ZIP CODES, ARE MAKING VERY DIFFICULT CHOICES, CHOOSING NOT TO PAY FOR THEIR GROCERIES, THEIR MEDICAL CARE, AND LIMITING THEIR BEHAVIOR AND KEEPING THEIR HOMES AT UNCOMFORTABLE TEMPERATURES.

SO, JUST TO ROUND OUT WHAT, WHAT DR. JONES WAS SAYING ABOUT THE, UM, ENERGY REBOUND, IS WE WANNA SEE A BIT OF THAT, IS WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE KEEPING THEIR HOMES AT HEALTHY TEMPERATURES.

AND SO I JUST WANNA SAY BY BRINGING THESE INTERVENTIONS TO MORE FAMILIES, WE'RE ADDRESSING COST ISSUES, BUT WE'RE ALSO INCREASING THEIR HEALTH.

SO ON EXPLORING, UM, THE, UH, THE RATE SHOPPING, THOSE RATES WERE REALLY HIGH, SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN THE ENCORE AVERAGE FOR RETAIL RESIDENTIAL RATES.

SO I REALLY LIKED YOUR SUGGESTION OF WHETHER IT'S PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OR LOOKING FOR WAYS TO SUPPORT LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS TO EXPLORE RATES.

THERE IS SOMEONE IN THE REGION NAMED PAUL HART, WHO'S VOTED IN DALLAS MORNING NEWS, WHO HAS SORT OF A METHODOLOGY, UM, WE COULD BRING THAT TO THE CITY AND LOOK AT WAYS TO HELP FOLKS SHOP FOR MORE AFFORDABLE RATES.

UM, ALSO EXPANSION GEOGRAPHY.

I SAW THAT YOU WANTED TO EXPAND PERHAPS BEYOND THOSE TWO, UM, ZIP CODES, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ALSO, UH, MANY SPLIT HEAT PUMPS MADE AVAILABLE.

AND LASTLY, HOPING THE CITY IS PAYING ATTENTION TO HOMES HERE, WHICH IS COMING NEXT YEAR.

THE STATE HAS REALLY BEEN AWARDED.

WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS MONEY WAS COMING TO ANY OF THE STATES.

IT'S SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT IN LOW INCOME, BOTH, UH, WEATHERIZATION PROGRAMS, BUT ALSO REPLACING YOUR INEFFICIENT APPLIANCES.

SO THAT COULD BE A WAY TO LEVERAGE AND SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM.

THANK YOU.

UM, YES, I HAVE A, A NUMBER OF, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS REPORT.

IT'S VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE AND, UM, IT'S AN INTERESTING, UH, AND INNOVATIVE, UM, IDEA.

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

AND ONE OBSERVATION, ONE OBSERVATION THAT I HAVE IS THE EXTREME VARIATION IN THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU DID.

UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK INTO AND DELVE INTO WHAT THAT VARIATION IS, BECAUSE FOR THE HOMES THAT DID NOT ACHIEVE, UH, A LOT OF SAVINGS, UH, IT MAY BE THAT DESIGNING INTERVENTIONS AIMED AT WHY THEY DID NOT.

AND THEN FOR THE, I MEAN, ONE OF YOUR HOMES WAS WAY OUT IN TERMS OF SAVINGS THAT MAY BE REPLICABLE AND SUGGESTIONS THAT OTHER HOMEOWNERS CAN USE.

UM, THE SECOND, UM, UH, OBSERVATION THAT I HAD WAS THAT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT WHY HOMES WERE, UH, UH, EXCLUDED, UH, UH, I'M CURIOUS HOW MANY WERE EXCLUDED.

AND MY HYPOTHESIS UNPROVEN AT THIS POINT WOULD BE THAT THOSE WITH DEFICIENCIES ARE THE ONES WHICH ARE MOST LIKELY TO BE MOST ENERGY INEFFICIENT.

UH, SO, UH, AND I WONDER ABOUT COUPLING THIS EFFORT UP.

UH, FOR INSTANCE, I KNOW THAT IN THE EIGHTH STREET, CARTER, THE BUILDER WHO BUILT A LOT OF THE HOMES DOWN THERE, UH, ALSO REPAIRED A LOT OF PROPERTIES OF PEOPLE WHO WERE LONG TERM RESIDENTS.

UM, AND SO THAT WE, AND WE HAVE EFFORTS ALSO LIKE THAT GOING ON, UH, IN THE BO UH, IN, UM, THE BOTTOM AND IN, UM, UH, AND IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.

AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, UM, REPAIRING THE DEFICIENCIES

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OUGHT TO BE COUPLED WITH EXPANDING THIS EFFORT.

UM, AND THEN, UM, MY FINAL OBSERVATION IS, IS THAT OVER 50% OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE CITY, INCLUDING THE MOST NEEDY POPULATION LIVE IN RENTAL HOUSING, AND RATES ARE QUICKLY BECOMING UNAFFORDABLE FOR LIVING IN THE CITY.

UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE AS, AS DR.

POSTON INDICATED, UH, MARGINALIZED, UM, AND, AND HAVE TROUBLE PAYING THEIR BILLS, UH, ARE BEING FACED WITH SUBSTANTIAL RAISES IN THE COST AND OUTRAGEOUS COSTS FOR THE QUALITY OF WHAT THEY'RE GETTING.

FRANKLY, FOR RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, I MEAN, PEOPLE IN THE, IN THE, UM, UM, BACHMAN LAKE AREA THAT, UH, WE WORKED WITH WITH DALLAS AREA INTERFAITH, WERE PAYING MORE THAN THE AVERAGE RENT IN DALLAS FOR PROPERTIES, WHICH WERE SO DISGUSTINGLY DEFICIENT THAT THEY BELONG IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY, NOT THE UNITED STATES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I I, UM, I THINK THAT NOT ONLY LOOKING AT EXPANDING THIS EFFORT TO HOMES, BUT ALSO LOOKING FOR, UM, LANDLORDS WHO WANNA DO THE RIGHT THING, WHO WOULD BRING THEIR PROPERTIES UP TO, UH, SCALE WOULD BE A DESIRABLE ACTIVITY.

WITH THAT, I'LL ALL OF THAT, I'LL BE QUIET.

YEAH, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE GREAT POINTS.

LET ME RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF 'EM.

SO, UH, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE HOMES, SO WHEN I'LL GIVE YOU A RAW KILOWATT HOUR NUMBER FOR THESE DIFFERENT HOMES, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE UNFAIR.

SO SOME HOMES ARE BIGGER, SOME HOMES ARE OLDER, SOME PEOPLE HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN THE HOUSEHOLD, SOME ARE LIKE A SINGLE RETIREE, SOME ARE FAMILY.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE VARIATIONS.

UH, THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO COMPARE HOME TO HOME OR INSIDE THE HOME.

SO BEFORE AND AFTER, IF THE PROGRAM REDUCED ENERGY, NOT ONLY OVERALL, BUT BY SEASON, AND WE ALL SAW THAT EVERY TIME IN THE SUMMER REDUCED.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A PLUS.

UH, THE, I DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER INTO IT AND THE REPORT ON WHAT EXACTLY THE PERSON DYNAMICS ARE IN EACH HOME.

SO HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE THERE, HOW OLD ARE THEY, ET CETERA.

SO THAT KIND OF ANSWERS SOME OF YOUR QUESTION, BUT, UH, YES, THERE, THERE ARE SOME INSIGHTS YOU CAN TAKE BY HOME TYPE BY AGE, ET CETERA, THAT YOU CAN APPLY TO ROUTE THE CITY.

UH, AND YOU ARE RIGHT.

UH, SOME OF THE HOMES THAT GET DENIED FOR WHETHER IT'S AN ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OR OTHER PROGRAMS, ARE SOME OF THE MOST ENERGY IN INEFFICIENT HOMES.

SO THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE SUFFERING THE MOST THAT ARE TOLD HERE IS A LIFELINE.

YOU JUST HAVE TO FILL OUT SIX HOURS PAPERWORK AND THEN WAIT A YEAR, AND THEN THEY WAIT A YEAR, THEY FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, ACTUALLY THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THIS PROGRAM WAS AIM SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO, TO FIX.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY ITSELF, BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAD THEIR PROGRAM, THE CITY, THIS WAS KIND OF THE PILOT OF THEIR PROGRAM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN DIRECTLY TARGET AND YOUR LAST ONE OF ON RENTERS.

SO THAT'S THE, THE FAMOUS SPLIT INCENTIVE.

SO IF I'M A LANDLORD, I PUT NO MONEY IN ENERGY EFFICIENCY 'CAUSE I DON'T PAY THE ELECTRICITY BILLS.

SO HOW DO YOU FIX THAT? UH, ABOVE MY PAY GRADE.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT RENTERS CAN DO NOW TO REDUCE THEIR ENERGY BILLS THAT ARE INDEPENDENT OF THEIR LANDLORDS.

SO L LEDS IS, IS OBVIOUS FROM, BUT NOW THERE'S THINGS LIKE BALCONY SOLAR AND BATTERY, UH, WHERE THEY CAN PRODUCE THEIR OWN ENERGY.

THEY'RE REALLY POPULAR IN EUROPE, THEY'RE STARTING TO COME OVER TO AMERICA.

BUT THOSE ARE REGULATIONS THAT THE CITY AND OUR UTILITY OFFER GONNA HAVE TO WORK OUT SO THAT YOU CAN ALLOW RESIDENTS TO ACTUALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ALLOW THEM TO REDUCE THEIR ENERGY USE WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW THE, THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. HOFFMAN, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

THANK, THANK YOU FOR THIS PROGRAM THAT YOU'VE, UH, SPEARHEADED AND IT'S REALLY VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

UM, I JUST HAD SOME DETAILED QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO, UH, IN TERMS OF SELECTING A PROPERTY, HOW THEY WERE PUT INTO THE PROGRAM.

UH, ONE OF THE OBSERVATIONS THAT I'VE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS IS THAT, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, ATTIC INSTALLATION IS WONDERFUL, BUT A LOT OF THESE HOMES HAVE VERY LITTLE OR NO INSTALLATION.

THERE ARE USUALLY INTERIOR WALLS OR SHIPLAP, THEY DON'T, UH, SO WHAT ARE YOU DEALING WITH REGARD TO THE ENTIRE BUILDING OF, UH, AND, AND I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS FOLLOWING UP THAT.

OKAY.

UH, SO THIS PROGRAM, WE DID NOT TOUCH THE, THE WALLS SO THAT OUR, THE HIGH LEVEL PLAN WAS TO, UH, UPGRADE ALL THE INSTALLATION.

SO ATTIC WALLS, UPGRADE PLAN, THE DOUBLE THING, MINI SPLITS.

UH, THEN YOU RAN INTO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FAMOUS PROBLEM OF FINITE MONEY.

SO WE, WE TARGETED THE HIGH INTERVENTION, UH, TASK FIRST.

SO THAT'S ATTIC INSTALLATION, WEATHER CEILING.

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SO THE FIRST THING YOU WANNA DO IS MAKE SURE THE AREA YOU HAVE IN THERE DOESN'T JUST FLOW OUT.

SO THAT'S THE CEILING.

AND THEN ATTIC INSTALLATION, UH, IS, IS SHOWN TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU DO.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, THERE ARE PROGRAMS IN DALLAS AND THERE'S, UH, OTHER NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE ST.

PHIL AREA THAT DO THESE THINGS THAT DO WHOLE HOME, UH, WEATHERIZATION.

UM, I WOULD PUSH FOR THAT, BUT, UM, I AM A IE GUY.

SO IF YOU HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY, YOU WANNA TARGET THE, THE MOST IMPACTFUL THINGS FIRST.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO.

BUT YOU'VE TARGETED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BIG, UH, THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, BUT THE REALITY ALSO IS, IS WITH ATTIC.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS WE'RE DISCUSSING WHEN SOMEONE RE-ROOF IT, IF THEY'RE NOT DOING AN A RADIANT BARRIER DECKING, IT'S NOT GOING TO REALLY REDUCE YOUR ATTIC TEMPERATURES BY 20 TO 40 DEGREES WITH A RADIANT BARRIER.

AND SO IF THAT WAS PART OF THE SCOPE THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT, I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY A, A, A BIG CHUNK OF WHERE BENEFIT CAN BE GIVEN AND TO REDUCE THE BTU LOAD OF THE BUILD.

SO, AND THEN ALSO IF THEY'RE DOING EXTERIOR SIDING, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.

THEY'VE GOTTA REPLACE SIDING.

YOU CAN DO OUTS INSTALLATION IF IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE TO DO INSULATION AND YOU CAN DO BOARD ON THEN SIDING ON TOP OF THAT.

SO, UH, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT MY, I'M, UH, MY FOCUS IS ON THE BUILDING ENVELOPE AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

ARE YOU DOING ANY ALSO ADDITIONAL DISTANCE? OF COURSE IT'S MORE MONEY, BUT BLOWER DOOR TEST, THAT'S, THAT'S AN INTERESTING DATA POINT THAT YOU CAN IDENTIFY WHEN YOU'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND COMPARE ONE OF THESE HOMES THAT HAD NOTHING DONE TO THE EXTERIOR WALL.

AND THEN DO, UM, A SEAL THE PERIMETER, DO A MOISTURE VAPOR BARRIER BARRIER, AND THEN, UH, THEN, THEN THE TEST TEST, HOW THE PERFORMANCE LEVEL IS DIFFERENT.

YEAH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO ALL THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO.

UH, THE BLOWER DOOR TEST WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE PLAN AS A DATA POINT, UH, BUT IT'S ABOUT $500 PER HOME.

SO WE, WE SPENT, UH, $2,750 PER HOME.

SO THAT WOULD ADD IT, UH, ALMOST 20% OF COST RIGHT THERE.

UH MM-HMM .

THE, THE RADIANT BARRIER.

SO IN THE DREAM WORLD, SO A LOT OF THE REASONS THEY GET DENIED FOR THE WEATHERIZATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS THE ROOFS.

SO THEY HAVEN'T HAD A ROOF REPLACEMENT IN 50 YEARS OR HOWEVER LONG IT MAY BE.

YEAH.

UH, SO WHEN YOU REPLACE THE ROOF, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO PLACE THAT BARRIER AS WELL.

UH, BUT AS, AS YOU CAN GUESS, YOU KNOW, COST, UH, LIMITED OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD'VE HAD A, A LARGER IMPACT IF WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, UM, BUT TOOK WHAT WE HAD AND, AND, AND MEASURED IT.

AND THE RESIDENTS DID SEE AN IMPROVEMENT.

THEY DID USE ENERGY MORE, UH, THEIR BILLS IN THE SUMMER WENT DOWN.

SO EVEN WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE HAND TOP BEHIND OUR BACK, WE SAW IMPACT.

SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A ONE HAND TOP BEHIND BACK, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD SEE.

ENORMOUS IMPROVEMENTS.

SO SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.

THANK YOU.

AND I APPRECIATE IT.

EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING, THAT'S VERY, VERY EXCITING.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROBERSON.

THANK YOU.

I'LL BE REAL QUICK.

YOU, THAT WAS A GREAT, UH, PROJECT, A GREAT THING YOU DID FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WATCH YOUR RESEARCH, YOUR RESEARCH.

DON'T LET IT SKEW YOU FROM SUCCESS BECAUSE, UM, THE DEAL SOUTH NOW IS PEOPLE ARE GETTING PRICED OUT OF THEIR HOMES.

UH, THE PANTRY THAT USED TO RUN AT OUR CHURCH, UH, PEOPLE WOULD COME IN WITH THEIR LIGHT BILLS MORE THAN THEIR RENT.

AND LIGHT BILLS TEND TO BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER SOUTH.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, BUT THEY TEND TO BE, AND THAT COULD SKEW YOUR RESEARCH AND, AND IT MAKES A MINDSET FOR THE PEOPLE WHERE THEY HAVE NO, I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, DOING THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY CAN'T REPAIR 'CAUSE IT'S ALL THEY CAN DO TO FEND OFF THE THINGS THAT ARE TRYING TO BE, UH, FORCES THAT ARE TRYING TO FORCE THEM OUT OF THEIR HOMES.

SO KEEP TRYING.

THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE, BUT KEEP THAT IN MIND 'CAUSE YOU'VE OPENED UP ANOTHER WHOLE RESEARCH, REALLY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

SO, UM, I JUST WANNA ADD FOR OUR UNDERSTANDING AND HISTORY HERE, THAT WHEN, WHEN WE STARTED DOING THIS, UM, THE WEATHERIZATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH IS RUN THROUGH DALLAS COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, HAD ONLY ONE CONTRACTOR AT THE TIME.

THEY ONLY, UM, OPEN IT UP FOR NEW CONTRACTORS EVERY THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THAT, THAT JUST HAPPENED A FEW MONTHS AGO.

UM, THE DEFERRAL RATE WAS REPORTED TO US, THIS 10% RATE OF A HOMES BEING, UH, TURNED DOWN UPON INSPECTION AFTER THEY APPLIED.

AND, UM, SO THAT WAS REPORTED TO US BY THE WAP FOLKS.

AND, UM,

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THE OTHER COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE HEARD IN THE COMMUNITY IN SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA IS THAT, UM, THE APPLICATION IS ONEROUS.

IT'S 15 PAGES LONG, YOU HAVE A LOT OF ELDERS.

IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFICULT, A DIFFICULT APPLICATION.

AND, UM, THE, THE OTHER THING FOR US TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER MAYBE IN OUR STRATEGY SESSION IS, UM, HOW TO HELP THESE HOMES GET READY FOR WEATHERIZATION IF THEY HAVE SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE DEFERRING THEM.

AND, UM, ANYWAY, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING WE COULD CONSIDER.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'D WANNA HIGHLIGHT OR TELL US BEFORE WE, IN THIS PART? JUST THAT, UM, JUST DON'T LET PERFECT BE THE ENDING.

GOOD.

I LIKE THIS PROJECT.

'CAUSE IT, IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET IT OFF THE GROUND, BUT ONCE IT'S OFF THE GROUND, WE GOT SOME THE BALL ROLLING.

I, WE SEE RESULTS, WE SEE NUMBERS, WE SEE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU CAN TAKE TO THE CITY OR WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GET FUNDING FROM AS THE FEDS, THE STATE, WHEREVER THAT THESE THINGS HAVE AN IMPACT.

UH, THERE'S ALWAYS MORE WE CAN DO.

THERE'S ALWAYS MORE THAT WE COULD HAVE PLANNED OR, OR BETTER LANDSCAPE, BUT JUST GETTING THE BALL ROLLING, UH, I THINK IS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN REALLY MAKE AN IMPACT AS SOON AS YOU WANT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND PRESENTING TO US.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

OUR NEXT BRIEFING ITEM IS THE K BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER SUSTAINABILITY UPDATE.

THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, GOOD DEAL.

WE'VE GOT THAT PRESENTATION UP.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, IF YOU'LL INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND WE'LL GET GOING.

ALRIGHT, HOW YOU DOING COMMITTEE? MY NAME IS REGINALD WILLIAMS. UH, I'M AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR COMMISSION EVENT SERVICES, OUR DIRECTOR, AS YOU SEE, ROSA FLEMING IS NOT HERE, BUT WE ARE HERE IN HER STEAD.

SHE, UH, STUCK IN COUNCIL .

I'M HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE, UH, JACQUELINE JUSTICE.

SHE'S OUR OTHER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

I HAVE ALSO, UH, MARY DICKINSON FROM AMPLIFY DALLAS AND TOM, UH, BECKLER FROM AMPLIFY DALLAS AND CARLOS AGUILAR FROM INSPIRE DALLAS, OUR ARMY CRAFT.

UM, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, UH, THE K BAILEY HUT CONVENTION CENTER WILL ANCHOR A VIBRANT DISTRICT THAT WILL CONNECT HOTEL, RESTAURANTS, OFFICES, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, AND PUBLIC FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THIS MIXED USE CAMPUS WOULD INCLUDE A NEW $2 MILLION, 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF CONVENTION FACILITY WITH 750,000 SQUARE FEET OF EXHIBIT SPACE, 180,000 SQUARE FEET OF MEETING ROOMS AND 105,000 SQUARE FOOT BALLROOM THAT WILL OVERLOOK DOWNTOWN.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S COMING AND I'M GONNA LET MY COLLEAGUE, JACQUELINE JUSTICE, SHARE WITH YOU HOW SUSTAINABILITY RELATES TO THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU, REGINALD.

NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE.

ONE MORE.

THANK YOU.

SUSTAINABILITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT AND PARAMOUNT IN THIS PROJECT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF OUR MASTER PLANNING, WHICH STARTED WELL OVER FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.

UM, WE'RE NOT ONLY MEETING, WE'RE EXCEEDING ALL OF OUR CCA BOWLS, SO THAT'S EXCELLENT.

AND TO THIS DAY, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN RECYCLING 142.5 TONS, UM, OF MATERIALS FROM, FROM THE CURRENT CONVENTION CENTER AS WE MOVE THROUGH DEMOLITION.

SO I'M GOING TO LET OUR COLLEAGUES, MARY DICKERSON, CARLOS AGUILAR, AND TOM, TAKE IT AWAY.

OKAY.

THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION.

IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO TALK LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE WHEN IT COMES TO SUBJECTS LIKE THIS.

AND COMMITMENT IS REALLY THE KEY TO IT.

UM, IT'S GOOD TO NOTE THAT, UH, WE HAVE LOTS OF PROFESSIONALS, MANY YOUNG PROFESSIONALS INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT THAT ARE VERY FOCUSED AND, AND OF THESE SUBJECTS AND MANY OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT, UH, HAVE COME ABOUT BY THAT INTERNAL DISCUSSION.

AND, UH, LOOKING FOR HOW TO IMPROVE, UH, ON

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THE CURRENT STATE OF THEIR, SO THE CONVENTION CENTER AND HOW TO MODERN MODERNIZE IT TO A POINT OF, UH, BEING A, A GOOD EXAMPLE AS AN ANCHOR THAT COULD THEN EXPAND THIS IMPACT THROUGHOUT THE, THE CENTRAL DISTRICT AND BEYOND.

SO THE FIRST THING IS TAKING SOME STEPS TO MAKE, UH, THE, THE, THE CONVENTION CENTER PROPER, MORE EFFICIENT.

UM, GET RID OF GAS EMISSIONS AND DO HEAT PUMPS, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE WHOLE DESIGN OF THE CONVENTION CENTER INSTEAD OF HAVING, UH, BOILERS.

THAT'S AN EXAMPLE, BUT THERE'S MANY OTHER AREAS THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, UH, TO GIVE THESE EXAMPLES THAT WE GO TO.

THE NEXT, UM, PAGE, IT IS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED IN THE PRIOR THEME.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE INTEGRATE THIS TO THE REST OF THE CITY? AND HOW DID THIS CONTRIBUTE TO, UM, BOTH LESSONS LEARNED AND EXPANDING ON A CONCEPT THAT COULD HELP, UH, THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

AND MANY OF THESE ARE THE ONES THAT, UH, ARE INCLUDED IN THAT STUDY.

AND HOW MUCH OF THIS COULD BE ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO RESIDENTIAL USERS IS ONE OF THE THINGS TO CONSIDER.

BUT, UM, AS YOU SEE, THE CONVENTION CENTER IS THAT ORANGE BIT THAT YOU SEE ON THE TOP LEFT HAND, UH, CORNER.

UH, THAT IS THE NEW FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.

FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE CONCENTRATING THE FOOTPRINT.

SO THE OLD CONVENTION CENTER, AS YOU SEE, GOES TO THE RIGHT AND ALL THE WAY TO CITY HALL WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

UM, AND, UH, THE FOOTPRINT ITSELF WILL BE MORE COMPACT, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND MORE EFFICIENT AND ACTUALLY HAVE MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, GEN CASH GENERATING SPACE THAN THE CURRENT BUILDING HAS.

SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GET MAKING THE BUILDING MORE EFFICIENT, MORE CONCENTRATED, MORE EFFICIENT IN TERMS OF USE, BUT ALSO OPENING ALL THAT AREA THAT YOU SEE TO THE RIGHT FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT IS, UH, ONE OF THE RESULTS OF THIS.

WE'RE NOT ONLY CONCENTRATING THE BUILDING, MAKING IT MORE EFFICIENT, BUT ALSO OPENING ALL THAT AREA THAT YOU SEE BASICALLY, SORRY TO GET UP, BUT THE OPPORTUNITY THERE IS HOW CAN WE START LINKING SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE HAD ARE IMPLEMENTING IT, THE BUILDING PROPER BEYOND THOSE BORDERS.

AND THE AREA OF INFLUENCE THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IS THAT YELLOW PERIMETER THAT YOU SEE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A LOT BIGGER IF WE INCLUDE, FOR EXAMPLE, RESIDENTIAL USERS.

THERE'S EXAMPLES AROUND THE WORLD.

COPENHAGEN IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

50,000, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS CONNECTED TO THE CENTRAL DISTRICT, UH, SYSTEM OF DOWNTOWN.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES YOU WILL HAVE AND COLLEAGUES WILL EXPLAIN A CENTRAL UTILITY PLAN FOR THE BUILDING WITH ALL THESE NEW PRACTICES OF BEING EFFICIENT, HEAT PUMPS, ALL THIS KIND OF, UH, MEASURES THAT WE'RE TAKING TO, UM, IMPROVE ON THE CURRENT, UH, ENERGY USE THAT WE HAVE.

AND THEN THAT COULD BE THE ANCHOR AS OTHER CITIES IN THE US AND EUROPE AND OTHER PLACES HAVE IMPLEMENTED TO DISTRICT OF CENTRAL DISTRICT, UH, ENERGY, UH, SYSTEMS THAT COULD BE THEN EXPANDED THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

SO WITH THIS, I'D LIKE TO TRANSFER IT OVER TO TOM, WHICH WILL SHOW YOU AS SHOW YOU THE, WELL, THE, THE PRETTY PICTURES AND THE VISION, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.

AND, UH, TO CLEAR UP ONE THING YOU SAID ABOUT THE YOUNGER PROFESSIONALS, THAT'S THIS END OF THE TABLE.

SO, UM, I'VE BEEN AROUND A WHILE, SO, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THE, UH, WHAT THIS SHOWS YOU IS THE OVERALL DISTRICT AND KIND OF THE LAYOUT OF WHAT, UH, THE CONVENTION CENTER IN THE CONVENTION CENTER DISTRICT, WE'LL CALL IT, IS INTENDED TO BE.

YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT IS CITY HALL TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS THE MEMORIAL ARENA T-BALL.

AND THEN WHAT'S SHOWN AS OPEN GREEN SPACE IS REALLY JUST A PLACEHOLDER 'CAUSE WE THINK THAT'LL BE DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY AND HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT VENUES, UM, IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'LL BE A PART OF WHAT IS THE GOAL.

AND WE CALL THAT COMPONENT SEVEN OF

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THE MASTER PLANT.

UM, IF YOU WOULD ENVISION, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE VERY GOOD ON THIS RENDERING, BUT THE ROOF OF THE CONVENTION CENTER WOULD BE COVERED IN PHOTO TITANIC PANELS.

SO, UH, THE PV PANELS WOULD BE THERE.

AND IT'S NOT SHOWN CURRENTLY ON THE LOT TO THE LEFT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WE CALL LOT E.

THEY'RE, UH, THE, IT IS THEIR TVS ARE TAKEN AWAY FROM THIS DRAWING, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S UNDERNEATH IT, WHICH IS THE MARSHALING YARD AND FIRE STATION AND THE DOCK AREA, BUT IT WOULD BE COVERED IN THE FUTURE OF PANELS.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE CONVENTION CENTER WILL LOOK LIKE.

THIS IS FROM LAMAR LOOKING SOUTH.

UH, WHEN YOU, UH, THE HAVE REMOVED THE HALLS A, B, AND C EVENTUALLY, THAT'S CURRENTLY WHERE THE FIFA, UH, BROADCAST CENTER IS.

WHEN THAT IS DEMOLISHED, THIS IS WHAT YOUR VIEW WOULD BE.

AND NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS WOULD BE FROM THE, UH, CEDARS IF YOU'RE COMING NORTH ON LAMAR OR BATH AND JING.

AND TO THE LEFT OF THE STREET WOULD BE A PROGRAMMABLE GREEN SPACE FOR A, A SMALLER, UH, VERSION OF A DECK PARK.

AND, UH, THAT IS ALL PART OF COMPONENT, OVERALL COMPONENT MASTER PLAN.

ALSO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN THIS BUILDING IS COMPLETE, IT WILL BE ONE OF THE MOST EFFICIENT CONVENTION CENTERS IN THE WORLD FROM ENERGY STANDPOINT.

IF YOU GOOGLE IT AND LOOK IT UP, I'D SAY THE MIDPOINT FOR ENERGY USE INTENSITY FOR, UH, CONVENTION CENTERS IS ABOUT 75.

THE LOWER 25% IS AROUND 50, AND OUR MOST BUILDING WILL BE BETWEEN 35 AND 38 EUI.

SO IT'LL BE A VERY EFFICIENT BUILDING.

IT ALSO WILL DEPLOY GEOTHERMAL, UH, ENERGY.

OUR GEOTHERMAL, UH, PIERS UNDER ALL THE BUILDING STRUCTURE, WE'RE INTEGRATING GEOTHERMAL INTO THAT.

SO THAT COMBINED WITH OUR, UM, HIGH AI EFFICIENT CENTRAL PLAT AND THE PVS WILL MAKE IT A VERY EFFICIENT, ENERGY EFFICIENT BUILDING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THIS DRAWING, UH, THE GREEN AREA AT THE BOTTOM IS WHAT WE ARE REFERRING TO AS LOT E AND THAT'S WHERE THE DOCK, THE MARSHALING YARD AND, UH, THE, THE GREEN BELT AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY BECOME BY A SWALE THAT IS, UH, FOR THE RAINWATER COMING OFF THE BUILDING.

AND IT'LL BE FILTERED THROUGH THERE BEFORE IT'S CARRIED OUT THE, THE RIVER OR WHEREVER DOWN DOWN THE STREET.

UM, THE AREA NORTH OF THAT ON THE PAGE IS WHAT WE CALL THE GROUND PLANE.

AND IT FEATURES A MOBILITY HUB THAT IS A VERY, UH, ECONOMIC WAY TO PULL ALL OF OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS INTO ONE AREA.

SO YOU'LL HAVE THE DARK STATION, YOU'LL HAVE DARK BUSES, YOU'LL HAVE SHUTTLE BUSES FROM HOTELS, YOU'LL HAVE UBERS AND LYFTS.

YOU'LL HAVE PUBLIC, TRANS PUBLIC DROP OFF IN THERE.

AND IT ALL IS CONCENTRATED INTO ONE AREA, WHICH IS A UNIQUE FEATURE OF THIS CONVENTION CENTER THAT I DON'T THINK IS IN ANY OF THE OTHER CONVENTION CENTERS.

UH, A LITTLE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON THERE IS ON THE, UH, RIGHT SIDE OF THE DRAWING THERE YOU SEE TWO SMALL GRAY AREAS.

THOSE ARE RETAIL FUNCTIONS THAT WILL BE, UH, AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC FOR RENT AND TENANT FOR SPACE.

THE BIG GRAY AREA IS THE GREAT HALL, WHICH IS THE MAIN ENTRY TO THE BUILDING.

AND THERE'S A PUBLIC, UH, PET PEDESTRIAN ENTRY FROM THE NORTH SIDE.

AND FROM THE SOUTH SIDE IS THE MOBILITY HUB.

AND A LITTLE GRAY BOXES TO THE LEFT ARE THE CENTRAL UTILITY PLANT AND SHOPS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

SO, UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

JUST GIVES YOU A VERY OVERVIEW OF THE BUILDING HERE WITH THE BOTTOM DRAWING BEING THAT GROUND PLANE I WAS REFERENCING.

THE SECOND AREA IN YELLOW IS THE EXHIBIT HALL, WHICH, UH, IS 750,000 SQUARE FEET.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT IN BROAD TERMS, THAT'S 17 AND A QUARTER ACRES OF SPACE IN ONE ROOM, WHICH IS GREAT.

IT'LL BE, UH, IN DIVIDABLE INTO FIVE DIFFERENT EXHIBIT HALLS.

SO THEY CAN HAVE VERY LARGE CONVENTIONS OR THEY CAN HAVE A SERIES OF SMALL CONVENTIONS THERE TOGETHER ABOVE THAT ARE MEETING ROOMS. AND ABOVE THAT, THE BALLROOM OF 105,000 SQUARE FEET.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE.

CURRENT STATE, LET ME GIVE YOU KIND OF JUST A HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS YEAR WE ARE COMPLETING THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ON THE BUILDING.

WE'VE COMPLETED DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.

WE WILL BE COMPLETING CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING, UH, IS UNDERWAY AND THE, THE TXCN BUILDING WILL ALSO

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BE DEMOLISHED.

THE NEXT TWO YEARS ARE ACTUALLY WHERE STRUCTURAL, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION BEGINS.

AND SO THEY WILL COMPLETED ALL THE DEMOLITION, DOING ALL THE SITE PREP, AND WE'LL BE STARTING STEEL CONSTRUCTION IN 27 AND THROUGH 28, THEY WILL HAVE LOT E COMPLETED.

UH, THE BUILDING ENVELOPE WILL BE STARTED AND HOPEFULLY COMPLETED IN 28.

WE HOPE TO GENERATE AIR CONDITIONING IN 28 SO THAT THEY CAN DO THE INTERIOR FINISHES OF THE BUILDING, AND THAT'LL TAKE BASICALLY 'EM THROUGH 29 AND THE, UH, RIBBON CUTTING OF THE BUILDING.

SO WITH THAT, THE YOUNGER PEOPLE WILL EXPLAIN ALL THIS.

, WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL BE COVERING A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FROM A SUSTAINABILITY STANDPOINT, MORE THE DEEPER DIVE AND INCLUDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, PLAN THAT THE, THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE CITY WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT AND OUR APPROACH WITH THE LEAD CERTIFICATION, UM, WITH OUR ASPIRATION TO ACHIEVE LEAD GOAL ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IN TERMS OF WORKING ON AND INCORPORATING CCA WITHIN THIS PROJECT IS WE'RE ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS OUT OF THE GATE IN TERMS OF APPLYING IT, LEARNING MUCH FROM THE PROGRAM AND, AND THE ASPIRATIONS OF THE CITY, AND THEN HOW TO INTERPRET AND TO IMPLEMENT THOSE.

UM, FROM A, WE RECEIVED THE UPDATES FROM THE BOND PROGRAM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND, UM, THAT WERE ISSUED FEBRUARY 5TH, 2024.

THAT INCLUDED SOME INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATES AS WELL AND SOME STRETCH GOALS.

SO WE'VE EVEN BEEN WORKING ON THOSE.

UM, FROM A BUILDING STANDPOINT, WE'RE INCORPORATING AND WORKING TOWARDS LEAD GOLD CERTIFICATION.

AND THEN I'LL SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE DOING ON STRETCH GOALS AND THEN ALSO HOW WE'VE BEEN EXPLORING THE INFRASTRUCTURE RECOMMENDATIONS.

RECOMMENDATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, I KNOW YOU CAN'T SEE ALL OF THE SCORECARD THAT IS UP HERE.

WHAT THIS IS MEANT TO SAY IS WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING IN TERMS OF OVERALL HOW OUR LEAD CERTIFICATION 60 IS A THRESHOLD FOR GOLD.

WE'RE RIGHT NOW ARE SITTING AT 65 IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE TRACKING FOR TOTAL POINTS.

BUT NEXT SLIDE.

IN TERMS OF TOTAL BREAKDOWN, THE, THERE IS A GOOD PORTION OF THOSE SLIDES.

THERE ARE 18 AVAILABLE FOR OPTIMIZED ENERGY IN WHICH WE ARE WORKING TO ACHIEVE 11 OF THOSE POINTS.

AND THEN THERE'S A THREE ADDITIONAL THAT ARE FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY.

THE, THE REST OF THE AREAS OF STRATEGIES CONCENTRATE ON HOW WE ARE WORKING ON THE OVERALL SITE ITSELF, MATERIALS, HUMAN HEALTH, UM, WATER REDUCTION AND MORE.

BUT I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THOSE DETAILS WHEN THIS NEXT ONE SPOKE.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

ONE OF THE AREAS OF INTEREST IN TERMS OF THE CCAP IS NOT FROM A CARBON STANDPOINT, IS NOT JUST OPERATIONAL CARBON, IT IS ALSO EMBODIED CARBON.

AND SO I WAY THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT CA IS THERE IS AN INTEREST IN COLLECTING ALL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCT DECLARATIONS FOR THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE BUILDING.

WE'RE EXPANDING THAT EVEN MORE, COLLECTING THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCT DECLARATIONS FOR NOT JUST THE ENCLO OR THE STRUCTURAL SYSTEM.

WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING THAT OF ALL OF THE ENCLOSURE, THE HARDSCAPE, AND THEN THE MAJOR INTERIOR MATERIALS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL REDUCTION STRATEGY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, FROM THE BASELINE BUILDING THAT IS LOOKING AT THE OVERALL BUILDING STRUCTURE ITSELF.

WHAT CAN WE RETAIN IN TERMS OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND HOW CAN WE MAKE REDUCTIONS IN EMBODIED CARBON FROM THE WAY, UM, FROM THE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE SPECIFYING FROM STRUCTURAL.

AND THEN ALSO WORKING ON A BATCH PLANT, A LOCAL BATCH PLANT OF CONCRETE.

AND THE ENTIRE MIX OF THAT DESIGN FOR MAKING A BIG REDUCTION AS YOU COULD IMAGINE, JUST BEING IN THIS BUILDING.

THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE THAT THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO INCLUDE ON NEXT SLIDE, UM, IT WAS SHARED ALREADY IN TERMS OF THE WASTE REDUCTION.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED.

OUR GOAL IS 75% REDUCTION, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON TRACK OF AN 82% REDUCTION.

WE'VE SHARED THOSE MAJOR COMPONENTS THAT WE ARE COLLECTING AND REDIRECTING FROM ANY LANDFILL AND SENDING IT BACK FOR THOSE THAT CAN USE IT FOR, UM, NEW MATERIALS AND RECYCLING PROGRAMS, UM, MAJOR COMPONENTS BEING CONCRETE, METAL, THE ASPHALT, ET CETERA.

BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO, WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT TAKE BACK PROGRAMS FROM CARPET TILE, ACOUSTICAL TILE.

YOU COULD IMAGINE THE AMOUNT THAT THEY HAVE.

GENERALLY THOSE MATERIALS ARE SENT BACK AS FUEL SOURCES AT ENERGY PLANTS.

WE DID NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, SO WE WORKED WITH MANUFACTURERS TO HAVE A TICKET BACK PROGRAM AND USE THAT INTO NEW CARPETS AND ACOUSTICAL TILES.

AND AS A RESULT, AS SHARED, 142 TONS OF CO2

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REDUCTIONS THUS FAR.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, IN REGARDS TO THE OTHER STRETCH GOALS, WE ARE OF COURSE WORKING ON, UH, THE EQUIPMENT AND OUR SELECTION SO THAT THEIR ENERGY STAR RATED.

WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE BUILDING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND HOW THAT WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO CONTINUE TO OBSERVE THE OPERATIONAL, UM, THE OPERATIONS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AND, AND THAT IT IS ACTUALLY PERFORMING AS DESIGNED.

AND SO, AND HOW YOU CAN KEEP THAT WITH YOUR, THE REMAINDER OF YOUR BUILDINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, BUT ALSO SEE WHEN THINGS ARE GOING WRONG SO THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS THOSE PROBLEMS IN ADVANCE.

AND THAT HAS MADE SOME MAJOR REDUCTIONS, UM, THAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER BUILDINGS.

THE OTHER BIG, BIG THING THAT WE SEE IN TERMS OF THIS PROJECT IS OUR ENERGY REDUCTION.

YOU HAVE A GOAL OF ACHIEVING NET ZERO ENERGY BY 2030 AND THEN CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2050.

SO OUR GOAL HERE IS HOW DO WE GET THIS BUILDING TO A NET ZERO EXAMPLE FOR THE CITY.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, YOU ALSO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE GOALS IN TERMS OF APPLYING THE RATING SYSTEM SITES.

SO AS TOM SHARED, WE HAVE A BIO SWELL AREA AND A GOAL OF REDUCING OUR STORM WATER, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY ON THIS SITE TO THE, UH, PRECONDITIONS OR THE PREREQUISITES OF THE SITE RATING SYSTEM ALONG WITH WATER RECLAMATION AND REUSE FOR IRRIGATION.

UM, WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT PARKS SMARTT AND INCLUDING SOME OF ITS IN OR ITS INITIATIVES INCLUDING SOME OF THE EV INFRASTRUCTURE AND AS TOM SAID, MULTIMODAL UH, SUPPORT FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, SYSTEMS THAT THIS, THE CONVENTION CENTER IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT FROM BUS SYSTEMS, UM, APP SERVICES, RIDE UP SERVICES, UM, AND OTHER, UM, VEHICLE ALTERNATE VEHICLE SUPPORT.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO DID, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE LITTLE ICON HIGHLIGHTS OF, UM, MAJOR POINTS FOR THE PROJECT.

OUTSIDE OF WHAT I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT BIRD SAFETY, INCLUDING FRT AROUND THE ENTIRE, UM, BUILDING ITSELF, HOLDING THE LANDSCAPE OFF OF THE BUILDING ENOUGH.

AND THEN, UM, NEXT TIER TWO IS WORKING ON THE HANDLING OF OUR SOILS.

AND AS I'VE SHARED A BIG REDUCTION OVERALL IN TERMS CARB, UH, OUR WORK ON CARBON AND THEN WASTE REDUCTION.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE BIG GOALS OF THIS PROJECT BEING OUR ENERGY REDUCTION IN YOUR PROGRAM, THERE ARE FOUR BIG ELEMENTS SHARED AND TO HELP THE CITY GET TO ITS GOAL.

WE HAVE WORKED ON OUR ELECTRIFICATION.

WE ONLY GET FOSSIL FUELS USED ON THE PROJECT ARE GONNA BE FOR THE GENERATORS AND THEN THEY WILL BE FOR, UH, PORTABLE TANKS FOR THE VENDORS THAT COME IN.

UM, WE EVEN HAVE AN ELECTRIFIED KITCHEN, WHICH WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.

SO EVERYTHING ELSE IS ELECTRIFIED IN TERMS OF MAXIMIZING OUR EFFICIENCY.

WE HAVE, AND I'LL SPEAK TO IT IN A MINUTE, OUR OPTIMIZED CENTRAL PLANT AND OPTIMIZED SYSTEMS. BUT OVERALL IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING DESIGN, WE FACE THE BUILDING EAST.

WE OPTIMIZE THE WESTERN FACADE SO THAT WE REDUCE OUR AMOUNT OF GLAZING AND THE WINDOW TO WALL RATIOS, OPTIMIZED PASSCODE IN TERMS OF ALL OF OUR THERMAL BARRIERS.

AND THEN WE STARTED TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE WORK ON OUR, UH, OPERATING SYSTEMS AND THEN THE BIG THING, THE SWINGS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT BIG SWINGS AND LOAD BECAUSE OF THE OCCUPANTS.

AND THEN LASTLY, WHAT DO WE DO IN TERMS OF OUR RE RENEWABLES ONSITE AND OFFSITE? NEXT SLIDE.

HERE'S OUR OVERALL CARBON REDUCTION.

AND IN TYPICAL BUILDING, AS TOM WAS SAYING, YOU HAVE AN EUI OF OVER 90.

WE'VE, UM, THAT'S THIS FIRST GRAPH HERE THAT IT HAS A, ABOUT NEARLY 52 MILLION POUNDS OF CO2 ATTRIBUTING TO IT.

IN OUR DESIGN, WE'RE GOING FROM THAT 51 DOWN TO 16 MILLION.

THIS INCLUDES HOW, BECAUSE OF HOW EFFICIENT WE'RE MAKING THE BUILDING, REMOVING THE FOSSIL FUELS, AND ALSO ADDING THE ONSITE PV.

ONCE YOU ADD OFFSITE PV TO GET THIS BUILDING TO A CARBON OR TO A NET ZERO BUILDING, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 0.4 MILLION, UM, POUNDS OF CO2.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, BUT THIS IS A BIG BUILDING.

SO THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT A QUARTER OF A POUND OF CO2 PER SQUARE FOOT.

NEXT SLIDE.

HERE'S ONE OF THE, THE BIG HEROES OF THIS PROJECT IS OUR EFFICIENCIES.

WE HAVE A GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM WHERE, UM, WE HAVE SHARED, WE'VE GOT THOUSANDS OF PEERS ON THE PROJECT BECAUSE OF OUR SOILS.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, WHICH IS OPEN TO CITIES, UM, WHERE IF, AND THE MAJOR COST OF THESE SYSTEMS IS ALL OF THE DRILLING.

BUT BECAUSE WE WERE ALREADY DRILLING FOR ALL OF THE PIERS, WE WERE ABLE TO WRAP THE GEOTHERMAL COILS AROUND THOSE PIERS.

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WHEN YOU APPLY FOR THE IRA, YOU ARE ABLE TO SUBMIT NOT JUST THE COILS, YOU SUBMIT, YOUR STRUCTURAL PIERS, THE STRUCTURAL SYSTEM, AND THE CAPS AS A PART OF YOUR REBATE.

THAT MEANT WE PUT MONEY BACK INTO THE BUDGET AS OPPOSED TO TAKING OUT AND PAYING FOR THESE GEO PEERS AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN WE GET THE REBATE BACK, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, SOME FOLKS TO HELP US THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS THE CENTRAL PLANT.

UM, WE HAVE, LET'S SEE HERE.

UM, A, IN TERMS OF THE HEAT RECOVERY SYSTEM, WE HAVE, UM, HEAT TANKS THAT, UH, DURING THESE PEAK LOADS, UM, OH, I SHOULD SAY REAL QUICK, LET ME BACK UP REAL QUICKLY ON THE GEOTHERMAL.

THE GEOTHERMAL SUPPLYING OUR HEATING AND COOLING FOR 75% OF THE LOAD THAT WE NEED.

AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, IN TERMS OF OUR HYBRID CARS, WHEN WE REALLY NEED THAT EXTRA SUPPORT, WE CAN THEN PULL IN OUR COOLING TOWERS, BUT ONLY WHEN WE HAVE THOSE PEAK LOADS.

SO WE DO HAVE REDUNDANT SYSTEMS TO SUPPORT US SO THAT SOMETHING DOES, THE SYSTEM DOES NOT GO DOWN.

UM, IN REGARDS TO THEN THE REST OF THE SYSTEMS, ANOTHER HERO IS THAT WE DO HAVE OUR HEAT TANKS STORAGE TANKS, SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE WASTE HEAT DURING PEAK LOADS, WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT HEAT AND THEN RELEASE IT TO, UM, REHEAT OUR DEHUMIDIFIED AIR, ONE OF OUR, ANOTHER BIG LOADS DURING OUR TYPICAL USE DAYS.

SO THIS IS A WONDERFUL CASE STUDY FOR OTHER BUILDINGS.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN THIS ONE BEING MY LAST ONE.

AND, UM, WHAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IS TO GET TO OUR NET ZERO APPROACH.

WE HAVE SIX, SIX MILLIONS, UM, WATTS OF PD THAT ARE GOING ON TOP OF THE EXHIBIT HALLS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

THOSE ARE, UM, NOTED.

ONE UNDER ONE UNDER TWO IS OUR DOCK ROOF, UM, AND OUR LOT E CANOPY THAT COULD ALLOT US ANOTHER UP TO, WE'RE BREACHING UP THERE ON ABOUT FIVE ADDITIONAL, UM, MEGAWATTS SQUARE OF PV AND THEN OFFSITE, WHERE WE REALLY GET THAT ECONOMY OF SCALE IS ANOTHER 16 WA TO GET IN THE FUTURE PROJECTS IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO GET TO THE, UM, PROJECT TO COMPLETE, UH, NET ZERO CASE AND BEING A WONDERFUL CASE STUDY AND EXAMPLE FOR THE CITY AND THE CCAP CODE BRAND.

SO TO WRAP US UP, I WANNA RETURN IT BACK TO CARLOS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FROM GOING FROM A CENTRAL PLANT SCALE TO A DISTRICT SCALE AND THE VISION.

OKAY.

SO, SO YEAH, TO RECAP, IT'S, WE'RE REALLY TAKING THIS PROCESS IN STEPS FROM HOW WE BRING DOWN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, HOW WE RECYCLE MATERIALS, HOW WE LOOK FOR PARTNERS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT WILL USE OR REUSE THOSE MATERIALS IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY.

UH, LIKE, UH, CARPET, LIKE, UH, ACOUSTIC TILE AND THINGS OF THIS SORT.

ALSO, THE REUSE CONCRETE, THE REUSE OF, UH, REBAR.

ALL THESE THINGS ARE BEING, UH, CURRENTLY IMPLEMENTED.

AND AS MARY SAID, UH, OUR TARGET WAS 75% RECOVERY.

WE STANDARD AROUND 82.

I'M NOT CURRENT CLAIMING VICTORY YET 'CAUSE WE STILL HAVE A LOT TO GO.

BUT, UM, SO FAR THE RESULTS ARE GOOD.

AND THE PARTNERSHIP WITH ACTUAL, WITH INDUSTRIAL PLAYERS ACTUALLY HAS BEEN VERY INTERESTING.

UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE NEXT STEP IS DESIGN.

AND YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE BUILDING TO MAKE IT, UH, MORE EFFICIENT AND USE BEST PRACTICES, UH, SUCH AS THE GEOTECH PEERS AND, UH, THE PV AND OTHER ELEMENTS THAT ARE KEY.

RIGHT? UH, THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

NEXT ONE, PLEASE.

SO WITH, UH, RESPECT TO THE FUTURE, SO ONE OF THE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT IS CENTRALIZING THE, THE ENERGY, UH, PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION IN A CENTRAL LOCATION IN THE BUILDING.

AND THIS IS BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING ANEW.

IF THIS WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT HAD BEEN DONE BEFORE THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH WAS EXPANDING IN, YOU KNOW, WAVES, BASICALLY IT STARTED 1957 NEXT TO THE ARENA OR THE ARENA PROPER, AND THEN EXPANDED TO THE WEST AS IT GREW THROUGH THE YEARS.

AND THE FINAL BIT WAS, UH, COMPLETED IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.

SO ALL OF THIS WAS LARGE EXPANSION, COVERED A LOT OF GROUND AS I SHOWED YOU BEFORE, AND NOT THE MOST, UH, EFFICIENT WAY POSSIBLE.

SO AGAIN, WITH MANY PLANS AS WELL, UH, TO SERVE THE NEW EXPANSIONS THAT WERE IMPLEMENTED.

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SO WE'RE CONCENTRATING ALL OF THAT INTO A CENTRAL UNIT WITH THE ABILITY TO HAVE STORAGE TANKS FOR BOTH, UH, COLD WATER AND FOR HOT WATER.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IS THIS CENTRAL LOCATION THAT WOULD BE DISTRIBUTING, UH, THE HEATING AND COOLING FROM THAT CENTRAL LOCATION TO THE REST OF THE BUILDING THAT MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO IMPLEMENT, AGAIN, MORE EFFICIENT SY SYSTEMS. ALL ELECTRIC, AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, WITH, UH, ONLY BOILERS THAT WILL DEDICATE BE DEDICATED FOR, UH, CUSTOMER USE OR STEAM GENERATION THINGS OF THE SORT THAT THEY NEED, BUT NOTHING FOR THE RUNNING OF THE BUILDING PROPER, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, THE QUESTION IS, CAN THIS BE A SINGLE, UH, CASE AND A SINGLE SOLUTION, OR COULD THIS BE EXPANDED TO THE REST OF THE DISTRICT? AND THE OPPORTUNITY IS HUGE.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2 MILLION, UH, SQUARE FEET, LITTLE MORE, UH, OF ENCLOSED SPACE HERE.

UH, COULD WE AIM FOR A MULTIPLE OF THAT? AND, UH, LOOKING AT EXAMPLES FROM OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, WE THINK THAT COULD EXPAND 10 TIMES AT LEAST.

SO THE OPPORTUNITY OF LINK THIS SAME KIND OF TECHNOLOGY TO LAND, WHICH BY THE WAY THE CITY WOULD NOW HAVE, UH, IT AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT, MEANING IT COULD ESTABLISH GROUND RULES FOR THE CONNECTION OF THOSE SYSTEMS INTO THIS NETWORK, FOR EXAMPLE, OR SIMILAR NETWORKS THAT WOULD USE THE SAME PRINCIPLES IS REALLY, UH, IMPORTANT AND REALLY A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S VERY RARE TO SEE THAT A SINGLE CITY HAS ALL THIS CANVAS TO, TO DRAW, UH, UPON.

SO THAT IS REALLY WHERE WE ARE, AND THAT'S SORT OF THE EXCITING MESSAGE WE WANTED TO LEAVE YOU WITH.

IT'S NOT ONLY THIS, UH, CENTRAL PLANT THAT IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE VISION, WE COULD THINK OF INCORPORATING A LOT OF THE SURROUNDING AREA TO THIS, TO THE SOUTH, AND TO THE CEDARS.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER THAT COULD BE CONNECTED.

BUT ALSO, AGAIN, UM, PRESIDENTIAL WAS MENTIONED BEFORE I GAVE YOU THAT EXAMPLE OF COPENHAGEN, WHERE A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE CENTRAL SYSTEM, THE CENTRAL DISTRICT, UH, ENERGY SYSTEM FOR HEATING, COOLING, UH, FOR THE, THE SURROUNDING AREA.

UH, CITIES LIKE HOUSTON HAVE, UH, AROUND MINUTE MADE.

THEY HAVE 19 MILLION SQUARE FEET ALREADY, UH, UNDER A DISTRICT ENERGY SYSTEM.

CITIES LIKE CHICAGO HAVE ABOUT 53 MILLION, UH, SQUARE FEET UNDER, UH, UNDER MANAGEMENT, PUT IT THAT WAY.

BUT, UH, OF COURSE THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD IS NEW YORK.

THAT'S INCREDIBLY OLD.

BUT, UM, IT IS, IT IS REALLY A POTENTIAL THAT WE HAVE HERE THAT, UH, AGAIN, REPRESENT TO YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR COORDINATION GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CARLOS.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE READY FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

UH, QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER HERTO.

MR. MARQUIS? I'M LOOKING ONLINE.

MR. HOFFMAN.

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER HERTO.

THANK YOU, CHAIR WALLACE.

UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

MY QUESTION IS FOR MR. WILLIAMS. UM, THE CITY HAS INVESTED IN THE RIGHT DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO THINK CREATIVELY INNOVATIVELY, THAT HAS THE RIGHT TECHNICAL SKILLSET TO ACHIEVE WHAT HAS JUST BEEN PRESENTED TO US.

HOW ARE WE LEVERAGING THE INSIGHTS AND THE LESSONS LEARNED ON THIS PROJECT THAT NOT ONLY MEET THE CA GOALS, BUT ALSO AND, AND SHOW US VERY ACHIEVABLE WAYS TO ACTION CAP, BUT ARE ALSO EXCEEDING THE BOND PERFORMANCE CRITERIA? HOW ARE WE GETTING THESE, THIS SUCCESS OUT THERE INTO THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR SO THAT THIS PROJECT CAN TRULY BE AN EXEMPLAR THAT LEADS HOW WE BUILD AND THINK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS? YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

UH, WE HAVE, UM, MADE OUR PARTNERS, WHICH IS OUR, UM, OWNER REP, UM, WITH INSPIRE DALLAS.

WE HAVE THEM TO, AND, AND OPEN UP THEIR, THEIR, UH, COMMUNICATION CHANNELS WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE GOALS ARE REACHED AND ATTAINABLE.

WE ALSO, WITH OUR OWNERS REP, HAVE ENGAGED, UH, WITH THEM ON THEIR TEAM, UH, UH, FOLKS THAT, THAT

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WORK TO DO OUR, UM, UH, HELP ME OUT, JACKIE, TO DO OUR, UM, OUTREACH THAT TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING SUSTAINABLY, KEEPING EVERYBODY UPDATED AS TO WHERE WE ARE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING ON ALL OF OUR EFFORTS.

AND, UH, THAT MEMBER, THE MEMBER OF THAT TEAM ALSO IS WITH INSPIRE DALLAS, HER NAME IS WITH, UM, UH, UH, JANE HAMILTON LEADS THAT EFFORT JUST TO KEEP THE, UM, COMMUNITY UPDATED AND KNOWING AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING AND OUR, ALL OF OUR EFFORTS AS IT RELATES TO CA AND OTHER GOALS THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A DEPARTMENT THAT THIS MASTER PLAN HASN'T TOUCHED.

WHEN WE ORIGINALLY BEGAN OUR MASTER PLANNING, WE HAD A TEAM OF, I THINK OVER 20 DEPARTMENTS WITH REPRESENTATIVES ON IT, RIGHT? AND A LOT OF THOSE SAME REPRESENTATIVES HAVE TRACKED WITH US AS WE'VE MOVED INTO IMPLEMENTATION.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WORK WITH AVIATION AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO BEGIN THEIR, THEY'RE IN THEIR MASTER PLANNING PROJECT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE WATCHING US AND, AND WE'RE WATCHING THEM.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I MEAN, THE, THE, THE DESIRE BEHIND THE INTEGRATING THE CA PERFORMANCE CRITERIA IN THE BOND WAS EXACTLY TO MAKE THIS STUFF EASILY UNDERSTANDABLE, ACHIEVABLE, AND ASPIRATIONAL.

AND THIS PROJECT TEAM HAS DONE THIS SPECIFICALLY, UM, WITH THE GEOTHERMAL, THE EMBODIED CARBON, THE NET ZERO ENERGY AND, AND CARBON NEUTRALITY STRATEGIES THAT YOU JUST PRESENTED.

AND I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OR ADJACENT TO, LIKE THE AIRPORT, BUT THE PRIVATE SECTOR ALSO.

I MEAN, IF THE CITY CAN DO IT, CERTAINLY THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN DO IT FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM DAY ONE.

WHEN WE HIRED THIS TEAM, WE PUT IT TOGETHER.

THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WANTED TO WORK WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS IN THE CITY AND WITHOUT AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THESE GOALS WERE MET AND WE COULD CREATE SOME SYNERGY SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, CAN ATTAIN ALL THESE GOALS.

AND I THINK THAT SO FAR, UH, IT'S LOOKING, UH, EXTREMELY PROMINENT.

JUST ADD ONE POINT ABOUT THAT PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR COOPERATION AND THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS, AS I SAID, THIS IS CITY LAND.

IN THE END, THOSE WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY PRIVATE SECTOR DEFINITELY.

BUT CAN YOU SET THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE RULES FOR A CONNECTION INTO, SAY, A DISTRICT ENERGY SYSTEM? DEFINITELY.

SO AGAIN, IT REDUCES IF YOU DO THAT, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE WAY MORE EFFICIENT USE OF SPACE, UH, IN EACH OF THESE BUILDINGS.

UH, BY DOING CENTRAL HEAT OR CENTRAL COOLING, YOU'LL BE USE MAKING AVAILABLE AT LEAST 10% MORE SPACE IN EACH OF THESE BUILDINGS TO START.

UM, AND THEN THAT'S RENTABLE SPACE.

YES, EXACTLY.

PROFITABLE SPACE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SO BIG ONE, UH, NOT BUNCH OF EQUIPMENT, AND PIPELINES, RIGHT? SO ALL THIS, UH, CAN BE PLANNED IN A WAY WHERE THE CITY CAN CALL THE SHOTS AND, UH, THEREFORE SET THE REQUIREMENTS, SET THE GOALS, AND, UH, MAKE THE, THE AVAILABILITY OF HEATING AND COOLING FOR PRIVATE SECTOR.

THANK YOU.

UM, MR. MARQUIS.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

MORE TO OVERCOME WITH, UH, JOINT LISTENING TO THIS REPORT.

IN 2003, A GROUP OF US GATHERED AROUND THE TABLE IN FIRST ITERATION OF THE US GREEN BUILDING COUNCIL IN NORTH TEXAS, MOSTLY ARCHITECTS, UM, LED BY CHEKI.

NOW SUE OAK, THESE KEN, UM, I WAS INVITED TO COME ON AS AN ACTIVIST AND, UM, AND POLITICAL LEADER.

AND WHAT WE BEGAN WAS A STEP AT A TIME AND IT WAS VERY SMALL STEPS, WHICH WHERE WERE AT THAT TIME IN 2005.

THEN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, JOE JORDAN AND I SAT IN HER OFFICE AND JUST ASKED YOU A QUESTION, HOW YOU MCDONALDS MORE SUSTAINABLE CITY THAT LED TO THE MAYOR'S GREEN BUILDING TASK FORCE, WHICH BE MON CO-CHAIR, OUR FIRST GREEN BUILDING ORDINANCE.

WE PASSED.

'CAUSE TODD LEOPARD, WHO THE CEO OF ATTORNEY CONSTRUCTION SAID, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO BUILD BUILDINGS FOR MY CLIENTS.

SAID I WANT YOUR FIRST ORDINANCE FOR ANYBODY APRIL, 2008 ON MY DESK.

AND WE DID THAT.

SO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY IS THE CULMINATION OF DECADES OF WORK IN DALLAS STATE, GOING BACK TO A FEW OF US SITTING AND ASKING HELP.

IT MAKES US A BETTER CITY, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR GRANDCHILDREN.

SO I WANNA THANK YOU FOR DOING

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THE QUALITY OF WORK YOU'RE DOING, THE DEPTH OF WORK YOU'RE DOING.

ALL WE NEED TO DO IS TELL THE STORY.

SINCE THOSE DAYS WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, MAYOR , MAYOR RAWLINGS AND MAYOR AL CALLED ME AND SAID, WHAT'S THE LATEST? I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO THE BIG CONVENTION, INCLUDING SOME OVERSEAS.

WE'RE GOING TO TELL THIS STORY OF HOW DALLAS WILL BECOME MORE SUSTAINABLE CITY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TELL THIS STORY, BUT THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO ALLOW TO REALLY AMPLIFY THAT STORY TO MEASURE WHAT I ALMOST BE AWARE OF THAT 'CAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR THOSE STORIES, NEED TO HEAR ABOUT DALLAS, TEXAS, AND PEOPLE WILL COME TO CONVENTIONS HERE JUST TO BE IN THIS BUILDING.

ALSO BE AWARE OF THAT THIS WILL BE SOMETHING WE WILL DRAW PEOPLE TO DOUBT.

WE'LL DO GOOD THINGS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS AND FOR ITS IMAGE.

SO I WANNA THANK YOU AND LET YOU KNOW THIS IS A STEP IN A LONG JOURNEY AND ALL THE WORK WE'VE DONE ON Z CCAP, THE WORK WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, ONE LORD AFTER ANOTHER, THE ABILITY TO GET THIS FAR WITH THIS PROJECT.

THIS IS A PIECE OF HISTORY AND ONGOING STORY.

AND IT GOES BACK TO THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE CITY AND IN THIS ROOM IN THE CAPITOL CHAMBERS NEXT DOOR FROM A GROUP OF US WHO LITERALLY SAT AROUND A TABLE ONE DAY AND SAID, NOW WE MAKE THIS MORE SUSTAINABLE CITY AND FOLKS LIKE YOU HERE, BOTH OF WHO WATCHED NATIONALLY, EVERYBODY THIS TABLE AND STAFF MEMBERS, UH, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT MOMENT.

AND IT BEGAN WITH SIMPLY ASKING A QUESTION, HOW DO WE MAKE THIS MORE SUSTAINABLE CITY? AND WE'RE DOING THAT NOW IN A BIG WAY.

AND I DEEPLY APPRECIATE IT AND APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AND, UM, SHIP OF HISTORY GOING BACK TO THE, THE VERY FIRST TIME WE SAT AND ASKED THAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. HOFFMAN.

THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

IT'S VERY EXCITING TO SEE THIS LEVEL OF WORK BEING INTRODUCED TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND, AND BUILDINGS, UH, TO BECOME PART OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UM, I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF TECHNICAL QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE PERIMETER STRUCTURE.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, FROM THE RENDERING I SAW THERE'S A LOT OF GLASS AND YOU DID MENTION SOMETHING WITH REGARD TO, UM, UH, BIRD SAFETY.

AND THEN ALSO MY CONCERN ALSO THAT MUCH GLASS IS HOW'S IT BEING UTILIZED? ARE YOU USING TRO WALLS TO MITIGATE HEAT GAIN? UH, UH, ARE YOU USING THERMAL MASS TO REDUCE THE VT LOAD ON THE STRUCTURE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT TECHNIQUES ARE BEING USED ON THE BOX ITSELF? I THINK FROM THE VERY GET GO IN TERMS OF HOW WE WENT ABOUT THE DESIGN, WE LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF THE ORIENTATION AND WHERE WE WOULD BE UTILIZING THE GLAZING.

SO THAT WAS SHARED A BIT IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE WASN'T, UM, WE LOWERED IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO, AND TO A GREAT EXTENT ON THE WESTERN FACADE, THE BUILDING FACES FOR THE MOST PART EAST.

AND SO THERE IS A HUGE EFFORT IN TERMS OF OUR DAYLIGHT HARVESTING AND WORKING IN TERMS OF THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE COMING IN ON THE BUILDING AND, AND WHERE A GREAT DEAL OF THE SPACES ARE ORIENTED.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THAT DAYLIGHT HARVESTING HAPPENING IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL PERFORMANCE OF THE GLAZING, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WHEN YOU HAVE THE TOTALITY OF THE BUILDING, THAT WINDOW TO WALL RATIO STAYS RELATIVELY LOW IN THAT 40% BETWEEN THE, I NEED TO GET THE LATEST IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGES, BUT I KNOW THAT WE'RE AT 40% OR LOWER.

MM-HMM.

UM, WHEN YOU TAKE IN THE TOTALITY, THE, IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE, WE OUTPERFORM CODE BY A GREAT EXTENT.

WE LOOKED AT IT IN TERMS OF OUR ENERGY MODELING TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM THE SOLAR HEAT GAIN, COAL EFFICIENT, UH, THE GLAZING THAT WE WERE SELECTING FROM AN ECONOMIC SIDE, WE CONTINUED TO HIT THE BEST PERFORMANCE FROM, UM, THAT WOULD MAKE AN IMPACT IN OUR OVERALL PERFORMANCE UNTIL THAT BECAME ECONOMICALLY UNVIABLE.

MM-HMM .

UM, THEN AS, AS YOU WERE SHARING, THERE IS ALSO ADDITIONAL EFFORTS AND FROM A MECHANICAL SYSTEM THAT ANY KIND OF THERMAL ISSUES AT THE CURTAIN WALL SYSTEM IS PROTECTED.

YOU HAVE KIND OF A, A CURTAIN WALL EFFECT FROM THE MECHANICAL SYSTEM SO THAT YOU DO HAVE A BREAK FROM THE ADDITIONAL SPACE.

BUT BEING A HEAVY LOAD BUILDING IN TERMS OF THOSE THAT ARE IN THE BUILDING, OUR BIGGEST AREA OF THE ENERGY PORTFOLIO ARE THOSE THAT WHEN WE HAVE THOSE PEAK LOADS AND THE AMOUNT OF, OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE SPACES, AND THEN IT IS OUR HEATING AND COOLING, THAT IS THE PREDOMINANT LOAD.

MM-HMM.

AND THAT'S WHY WE CONCENTRATED ON THE, UM, CENTRAL PLANT ITSELF AND OUR MEANS OF REDUCING OUR FEEDING IMPROVE.

AND JUST ONE OTHER

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COMMENT IS IN REGARDS TO THE GLAZING THAT MARY'S TALKING ABOUT.

MOST OF IT IS EAST OF NORTHEAST FACING, BUT ALSO THE FRIT THAT'S ON THE GLASS OH, THANK YOU FOR THE BIRDS ACTUALLY HELPS PART OF THE SHADING OF THE GLASS ALSO.

OKAY.

BUT HAPPY TO SHARE FURTHER DETAILS THAT ARE NOT IN IN, UM, THE DECK THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED CERTAINLY CAN GET A LOT MORE DETAIL ORIENTED.

AND JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE PEERS.

IS EVERY STRUCTURAL PEER GOING TO BE A GEOTECH? UH, OUR GEO UH, UM, UH, ENERGY SINK FOR, FOR YOUR, UH, FOR YOUR, UH, UM, EN UH, ENERGY CONSUMPTION OR FOR THIS, UH, HEATING AND COOLING? UH, YEAH, IT IS ALL THE PIERS, UH, ON BOTH LOTS ON EACH SIDE OF THE RAILROAD, SO IT IS ALL APPEARS MM-HMM .

UH, ONE OF THE UNIQUE ADVANTAGES WE HAVE IS A WATER TABLE THAT FLOWS THROUGH THE SITE AND ACTUALLY HELPS MAINTAIN GOOD COOLING FOR THE PIERS AND TEMPERATURE CONSISTENCY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO IT'S PROBABLY AS IDEAL OF A LOCATION AS WE COULD PROBABLY FIND FOR, UH, GEOTHERMAL.

MM-HMM .

WELL, THAT'S GONNA BE AN INTERESTING BILL 'CAUSE I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PACE ALL THOSE PIERS.

SO, UH, WE HAVE TEMPORARY CASING ON 'EM.

IT'S GONNA BE EXPENSIVE, BUT ALL THAT ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO THE REIMBURSEMENT WE'LL GET FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE, THE ACTUAL COST OF THE GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM.

BY THE TIME YOU ADD IN THE PEERS, ALL THE DESIGN EFFORTS AND EVERYTHING GOES INTO IT, THE VERY LARGE NUMBER FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

SO IT'LL BE GOOD.

UH, THANK COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.

SORRY, I'M HAVING TROUBLE FINDING THE MUTE.

UM, UH, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE OUTSIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

UM, NUMBER ONE, THE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES I SEE WITH THE CURRENT STRUCTURE IS THAT IT IS SURROUNDED ON BOTH SIDES BY A MOAT OF OPEN PARKING.

IS THAT GOING TO STAY? UM, OR IS THERE GOING TO BE A PLAN TO REDUCE THE OPEN PARKING OUTSIDE BECAUSE IT'S NOT VERY WELCOMING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN TOWN TO ATTEND A CONFERENCE? UH, LET ME JUST SAY, IN GENERAL, WE HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF PARKING DEDICATED TO THE CONVENTION CENTER ON SITE IT WITHIN A FIVE MINUTE WALK, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 40,000 EXISTING PARKING SPACES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE A PROGRAM.

BUT THESE BUILDINGS GET TO LEASE THEIR, OR RENT THEIR SPACES OUT, RATHER THAN US BUILDING 20,000 PARKING SPACES.

WE WANT IT TO ENCOURAGE THE NEIGHBORING BUILDINGS TO, UH, RENT THEIR SPACES.

THAT ALSO HELPS THEM ECONOMICALLY AND SPREAD SOME OF THE BENEFIT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

BUT ALSO THERE, THERE ARE 1200, UH, PARKING SPOTS UNDER A, A AND B, UH, CURRENT HALLS A AND B WHERE PFA IS CURRENTLY LOCATED.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE STUDYING IS IF THERE'S DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA ABOVE THAT, WE CAN KEEP THE UNDERGROUND STRUCTURES TO MAINTAIN THE PARKING.

SO AGAIN, NOT OPEN, UM, AIR PARKING, BUT STRUCTURES THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE OUTSIDE IS, UM, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE STRANGEST, UH, PIECE OF OUR CURRENT CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH IS THE CEMETERY RIGHT OUTSIDE THE FRONT DOOR? UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY WITHIN THE SCOPE OF OUR PROJECT, WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THAT.

UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE INTENT IS TO KEEP THE CEMETERY INTACT AND HAVE SOME, I SAID LANDSCAPE RENOVATION DONE TO IT.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY, WE CALL THAT COMPONENTS FIVE.

AND THAT IS, UH, FOCUSED ON ACTUALLY REFURBISHING, UH, THE FOUNTAIN AT, UH, WHERE THE STEERS ARE, THE PIONEER PARK AND ALSO PRESERVATION OF THE CEMETERY OF COURSE.

SO ALL THESE ITEMS ARE GONNA BE PRESERVED AS THEY ARE, BUT IMPROVED.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BURLEY.

HI, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YEP.

GREAT.

UM, SO MY QUESTION, UH, REALLY REVOLVES AROUND, UM, KIND NOT THE IMPLEMENTATION, BUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE IMPLEMENTATION WHEN WE GO TOO INTO SUSTAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAINTENANCE PIECE OF ALL OF THESE, UH,

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THESE SYSTEMS, THESE NEW BRAND NEW SYSTEMS THAT I'M, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT.

AND I WANNA ECHO WHAT HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE ABOUT THESE, UM, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HOW WE ARE USING AND REUSING, UH, CREATIVELY THE WATER THAT IS COMING ONTO THE SYS ONTO THE SITE.

SO I, I CHAMPION ALL OF THESE NEW SYSTEMS, HOWEVER, I, UH, JUST HAVE THIS LITTLE BIT THING IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD THAT SAYS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

UH, AND SO I WOULD BE REALLY SAD IF THE CITY OF DALLAS, SINCE THE CONVENTION CENTER IS A CITY OF DALLAS PROPERTY, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE BUDGET CONCERNS THAT WE ARE FACING RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT, THAT THESE VERY AWESOME NEW SYSTEMS, UM, MIGHT, YOU KNOW, AS WE USE THEM, AS ALL SYSTEMS DO, THEY MIGHT DECLINE.

AND I IS, MY MAIN QUESTION IS, UM, ARE WE ASSURING THE RESOURCES ARE IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, FIVE, 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE NEED TO, UM, MAINTAIN THESE, UM, THE STAFF, LIKE CITY STAFF, HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO, UH, MAINTAIN THESE NEW SYSTEMS? SPECIFICALLY ON THE WATER SIDE IS MY QUESTION.

YES.

I LIKE, UM, APPROACH THAT QUESTION.

UM, IN ALL OF OUR FINANCIAL MODELS, UH, WE HAVE INCLUDED DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, UM, SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THE, BUILD THE BUILDING, MAKE SURE IT STAYS A LEVEL AS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING BE DELIVERING.

WE ALSO GONNA BE, UH, CONTINUING TO, UH, EMPLOY A PROFESSIONAL OPERATOR OF THE BUILDING LIKE WE ARE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

BUT ALL OUR FINANCIAL MODELS INCLUDE, UH, UH, PREFERRED MAINTENANCE AND CONTINUING MAINTENANCE TO MAINTAIN AND, AND ENSURE THAT THE BUILDING STAY, UH, AT A WAITING AS WHAT WE GONNA BE DELIVERED.

PLUS IT'S, IS THIS, IS THIS GONNA AFFECT DALLAS WATER UTILITIES? I'M JUST THINKING OF, YOU KNOW, BILLING AND STAFF AND RESOURCES AND THAT SORT OF THING.

UH, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH, UH, WITHIN EVERY DAY AND EVERY STEP OF THE WAY IN THIS PROJECT.

MAYBE ONE POINT THAT I'LL, I'LL SHARE AS WELL, WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS A PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE.

IT'S WHERE WE HAVE FOUND THAT, WHERE WE PUT THESE INNOVATIVE SYSTEMS IN AND THEN THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINED.

AND SO YOU DO NOT GET TO READ ALL OF THE REWARDS.

THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHY THAT RFI IS ISSUED FOR THE CENTRAL PLANT AND WORKING WITH A THIRD PARTY THAT WOULD BE A THIRD PARTY PROVIDER AND CONTINUED MAINTENANCE IN TERMS OF THAT CENTRAL PLANT.

UM, THEY WOULD ALSO BE A PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND MAINTAINING GEOTHERMAL SYSTEMS IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN.

UM, THE, UM, HEAT, UH, HOT WATER TANKS AND THE COOLING WATER TANKS ARE A PART OF THAT SYSTEM AS WELL.

SO ALL OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS THAT ARE ALLOWING YOU TO REALIZE THESE HIGH EFFICIENCY OPERATIONS ARE INTENDED TO BE A PART OF THAT THIRD PARTY, THIRD PARTY, UM, CONTRACT.

AND I'LL LET CARLOS SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT, JUST, JUST ON THE HEATING AND COOLING SIDE AND, UH, WATER MANAGEMENT FOR, FOR THAT PURPOSE.

UH, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES AND THAT'S WHY WE MENTIONED OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD THAT HAVE DONE THIS.

AND, UM, ENERGY AS A SERVICE IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SO THAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND THE LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE, UH, REQUIRED IS INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT PACKAGE.

SO IF THERE ARE P THREE, UM, MODELS THAT WE IMPLEMENT, THEY WILL ALL HAVE THIS, UH, HEAVY, UM, FOCUS ON THE UPKEEP OF SYSTEMS AND, UM, THAT'S THE WAY OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IT AND IT'S PROVED TO BE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.

THANK YOU.

UM, JUST REAL QUICK, MARY AND I WERE DEBATING THE SIZE OF THIS COLD AND HOT WATER STORAGE TANKS, AND WE CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS , BUT THEY'RE VERY LARGE TANKS THAT WERE WE USE FOR, UH, HELPING THE SYSTEMS RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY.

MS. BE, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, YES.

YEP.

WELL, MY QUESTION'S RELATED TO WHITNEY'S QUESTION.

I AM, I'M ALL FOR CUTTING EDGE IN NEW TECHNOLOGY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I I'M JUST WONDERING HOW HARD, UM, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM, HOW HARD IS THAT TO REPAIR? AND ARE THERE, I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTS, ET CETERA, ARE THERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WERE, UH, VENDORS AVAILABLE TO FIX THAT

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SYSTEM? SHOULD IT GO DOWN FOR WHATEVER PART OF THAT SYSTEM? THANK YOU.

UM, YES.

UH, THE, THE, UH, LET ME ANSWER THAT IN KIND OF TWO PARTS.

ONE IS THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED, THE, THE PIPING IS ENCASED IN CONCRETE, SO IT'S PRETTY HARD TO HAVE IT, UH, NOT STAY INTACT.

UM, THE OTHER PART OF THE SYSTEM WIDE, OR THE OVERALL SYSTEM, AND MARY REFERRED TO WHAT I CALL A HIGH, SIMILAR TO A HYBRID CAR, IS IF THE GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM DID GO DOWN, IT'D BE LIKE RUNNING A HYBRID CAR ON GAS ALL THE TIME.

AND IT WORKS FINE, IT GETS NORMAL KIND OF GAS MILEAGE, BUT WHEN THE, YOU IMPLEMENT THE ELECTRIC PART OF THE HYBRID, IT WORKS MUCH MORE EFFICIENTLY AND YOU GET AN EXTRA 50% EFFICIENCY OUT OF IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE GEOTHERMAL DOES FOR THE BUILDING.

IT, IT DOESN'T, THE BUILDING IS NOT DEPENDENT ON THE GEOTHERMAL, BUT IT ENHANCES THE EFFICIENCY OF THE SYSTEM.

WONDERFUL.

UM, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

UM, MY ANTENNA WENT UP WHEN YOU SAID BATCH PLANT.

UM, WE KNOW THAT IN THIS CITY WE LOVE PUTTING BATCH PLANTS IN THE MOST VULNERABLE PARTS OF TOWN.

UM, HAVE YOU MITIGATED FOR THAT? IS THERE A PLAN TO MITIGATE FOR THAT WHERE, UM, I MEAN THERE, I CAN TELL YOU ALMOST EVERY PERSON'S POINT OF VIEW ON THIS COMMISSION IS THAT THERE ARE ENOUGH BATCH PLANTS IN CHOPPY, THERE ARE ENOUGH BATCH PLANTS IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF PRESTON HOLLAND WANTS TO TAKE PART OF THE LOAD, WE'RE ALL FOR THAT.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE IS A, UM, PLAN TO MITIGATE THAT.

AND THEN I'VE GOT A FEW MORE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.

I JUST SAW ALL OF THE EYES LOOKING THIS WAY.

.

I THINK THAT THAT CERTAINLY IS A PART OF OUR CONVERSATIONS AS WE EXPLORE.

WE'RE RIGHT IN THE CURRENT PHASE WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION TEAM IN TERMS OF ASSESSING WHO, UM, WHAT THE SUB AND WHAT THE SUB IS MEETING IN TERMS OF OUR SPECIFICATIONS IN TERMS OF THAT, THAT BECOMES PART OF THEIR CONSIDERATIONS AND HOW, AND MEANS AND METHODS IN TERMS OF HOW TO GET IT DONE.

BUT I DO THINK THAT THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY OPEN IN TERMS OF PARTNERSHIP AND HOW WE GO ABOUT, UM, THE PLANT ITSELF WHO WE'RE SELECTING TO MEET OUR OVERALL CARBON GOALS.

SO I THINK THAT WE CAN TALK TO THEM IN TERMS OF, UH, IF WE'RE BRINGING THAT BATCH PLANT IMPACT ON, ON SITE SO THAT FOR EASE OF CONSTRUCTION AND, AND THE SPEED IN WHICH WE HAVE TO BUILD THIS BUILDING, THEN WHAT CAN WE DO IN TERMS OF REQUIREMENTS IN, IN REDUCING THAT SUBS OVERALL EMISSIONS FROM THEIR EQUIPMENT.

THERE CERTAINLY ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE CAN DISCUSS AND SEE, UM, IN TERMS OF WHO THEY'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, IF THEY CAN MEET SOME OF THOSE, I THINK MORE NATIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE.

OKAY.

UM, WE, IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE WILL BE WATCHING THAT'S IMPORTANT IN THAT, UM, ON THE, UH, REUSE OF MATERIALS.

IT'S SUPER EXCITING.

UH, WE HEARD FROM A PERSON Y'ALL PROBABLY MET EARLY ON ABOUT REUSING, UM, CRUSHING AND REUSING GLASS AS PART OF FLOORING, AND I DIDN'T SEE GLASS ON THAT LIST.

IS IT BEING RECYCLED IN SOME WAY? REUSE WE USED WOULD BE PRE, WELL WE, OUTSIDE OF THOSE PARTICULAR WASTE STREAMS, THOSE ARE ONES THAT ARE NOT GOING INTO COMMINGLED WASTE.

THEY HAVE SOURCE SEPARATION TO GO TO SPECIFIC AREAS FOR RECLAMATION.

I THINK, UM, WHEN WE EXPLORED SEVERAL DIFFERENT OTHER AREAS, GLASS WAS ONE OF THOSE.

THE TERRAZA FLOORING WAS ONE OF THOSE, UM, DOORS WAS ANOTHER PORTION OF THIS.

IT CAME DOWN IN TERMS OF THE SUBS INVOLVED AND DID THE SUBS, DID THEY WORK WITH A THIRD PARTY AND HAVING TO, UM, LOOK AT INSURANCE AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THOSE THIRD PARTIES HAD IN PLACE.

AND WE DID NOT FIND THAT FOR THE GLASS.

I THINK IT IS A GREAT CASE STUDY THAT WE'D LOVE TO SHARE BECAUSE WE DID WRITE UP EVERYTHING THAT WE DID IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THESE OTHER WASTE STREAM REDUCTIONS.

IT WILL GO TO A COMMINGLED WASTE, UM, RECYCLING PLANT SO THAT WE GET TO, WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT 82% OR HIGHER.

AND SO IT'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE A DIRECT PLACE THAT IT IS GOING, BUT IT'S A PART OF THE OVERALL RECYCLING PLAN IN TERMS OF THE COMMINGLED WASTE.

OKAY.

THE PLACE I HEARD OF AND, UH, SOMEBODY HERE MAY HAVE A, A NAME, BUT IT WAS IN WAXAHATCHEE A A GRASS.

THAT'D BE GOOD TO KNOW.

CRUSHING.

AND I AM SORRY I SPOKE OUT OF TURN, UH, DR.

JACK, I'LL BE GREAT AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP.

YEP.

YOU NEVER SPEAK OUT OF TURN CHAIR WALLACE .

SO JUST, I JUST WANTED TO RESTATE, I AM INSPIRED, I AM GRATEFUL FOR THIS PRESENTATION AND I THINK

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SOMETIMES WE WORKING IN THIS FIELD NEED A MOMENT TO JUST SOAK IN THAT WE GET THIS FACILITY AND THE POWER OF DEMONSTRATION THAT THIS WILL BE.

BUT I DID WANNA RETHINK A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, JUST TWO PEOPLE SITTING HERE TONIGHT.

MR. MARQUIS, I AM VERY AWARE, I'M ACTUALLY A LITTLE CHOKED UP AT LIKE WHAT THIS WORK, WHERE THIS STARTED IN THE CITY AND YOUR PERSONAL ROLE ALONG WITH OTHERS TO CREATE THE FOUNDATION THAT THIS IS BUILT ON.

LITERALLY I'M TOUCHED AND THEN ALSO CHAIR HERE, MOTO, I MEAN LITERALLY THOSE BOND RECOMMENDATIONS WERE YOU, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK TO CREATE.

NOW THIS LIVING DEMONSTRATION IS PRETTY INSPIRING.

YOU'RE HERE AM UM, ALRIGHT.

LEMME GO BACK TO THIS.

YES, I'M SO SORRY.

UM, OH, WE WE'RE STILL OPEN FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

I JUST DIDN'T SEE ONE.

OKAY.

UM, UH, FIRST OF ALL, UM, I, I WAS INSPIRED WHEN I READ PUBLICLY SOME OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING TRYING TO SAVE THE BIRDS IN TERMS OF GLASS.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, THIS WAS A VERY INSPIRING PRESENTATION TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF ATTENTION THAT YOU ARE GIVING TO THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THIS FACILITY THAT WE'RE BUILDING.

UM, UH, I I HAVE BEEN TELLING MY FRIENDS WHO ARE OUTSIDE TEXAS HOW DALLAS REALLY IS PROGRESSIVELY PURSUING ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND YOU CERTAINLY HAVE REINFORCED THAT BY, UH, WHAT YOU PRESENTED.

UM, AND ANOTHER, UM, UH, BUT ONE QUESTION I HAVE, I WAS INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU PRESENTED WITH THE USE OF, UH, SOLAR ON THE ROOF AND IN OTHER PLACES.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED AT ALL, UH, ANY OF THE ROOF STRUCTURE, UH, FOR, UH, URBAN GARDENS OR URBAN AGRICULTURE, PRESERVING SOME OF OUR, TO INCREASE SOME OF OUR GREEN SPACE? THERE WE GO.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE.

I THINK WE LOOKED AT IT.

WE EVEN, UM, UH, EARLY ON IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT, I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE DID HAVE IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE GREEN SPACE WE HAVE, UH, WE DO HAVE AREAS THAT FOLKS CAN WORK, WALK OUT ONTO THE ROOF, ROOF RIGHT OUTSIDE THAT BALLROOM AND SUCH.

AND THERE'S SOME MINIMAL PORTIONS.

IT WAS A BIT OF A FIGHT BETWEEN THE PHOTOVOLTAICS AND THE RENEWABLES AND THEN PUTTING THE GREEN ROOF ON.

CERTAINLY THE PHOTOVOLTAICS ARE GOING TO DO MORE IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE OF THIS BUILDING THAN THE GREEN ROOF WAS FROM A THERMAL REDUCTION.

AND SO THAT WAS WEIGHING THE OTHER PORTION OF THIS, UM, THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT TOO, WAS ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE VEGETATION? AND WE KNEW THAT THE BIRD SAFETY WAS A HUGE CONCERN, AND SO WE HAD TO WEIGH THAT IN TERMS OF OUR FACTORS.

UM, WE DID WORK TOO WITH THE GRAND PRAIRIE ASSOCIATION TO SEE LIKE, IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT MIX WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO DO A MIX AND TO CREATE A GREEN ROOF.

WE WENT PRETTY FAR, I THINK IN TERMS OF OVERALL PERFORMANCE, UM, REALLY WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO IT, THE NECESSITY OF THE PV AND TRYING TO MAXIMIZE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ON THE BUILDING IS WHAT WAS THE BIGGEST WINNING FACTOR IN TERMS OF SELECTING THAT OVER SOME OF THE GREEN SPACE THERE.

IT, YOU CERTAINLY ARE GOING TO HAVE IT AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IT WHERE FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT ON THE ROOF.

IT JUST WON'T BE OVER THAT MAXIMUM AREA IN TERMS OF ABOVE THE, UM, EXPO HALLS.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO SPEAKING OF THE GLASS, UM, I NEED TO ASK IF, WHAT TYPE OF GLASS IS IT THE GLASS THAT'S RECOMMENDED BY THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY? UH, TWO BY TWO INCH PATTERN.

UM, BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

I KNOW IT, THE FRIT IS A, A VERY SMALL FRIT.

I DON'T KNOW THE PATTERN OF IT.

UM, SO I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

WE DO, I CAN, I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.

IS THAT FUNNY? YEAH, IT IS.

THE GLAZING IS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY.

WE DO HAVE AN E ON OUR TEAM.

AWESOME.

MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.

YES.

AND JUST CURIOUS ABOUT DARK SKY LIGHTING, IS THAT ALSO, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ON THE TEAM AND BEEN WORKING IN TERMS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER LEADERSHIP AND TURN, AND WHEN WE HAVE THE MIGRATORY PERIODS, WHEN THOSE MM-HMM .

UH, THE LIGHTING WILL BE TURNED DOWN, BE SENSITIVE FOR WORKING ON HOW TO WORK ON THE DMS SYSTEM SO THAT IT CAN BRING DOWN THAT LIGHTING.

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WE'RE WORKING TO REDUCE ANY KIND OF UPWARD SKY LIGHTING.

SO THOSE TWO FACTORS IN TERMS OF THE UPWARD SKY AND THEN ALSO THE MIGRATORY PERIODS AND HOW TO MAP THOSE.

PERFECT.

UM, AND I LOVE THE REFERENCE TO EUROPE.

UH, EUROPE DOES A MUCH BETTER JOB AT PRESERVATION THAN DALLAS IN PARTICULAR DOES.

AND, UM, BECAUSE OF THE EMBODIED CARBON ISSUE, UM, IT'S A, A HUGE THING.

AND I LOVE THE GEOTHERMAL, THE SOLAR, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WILL, UM, GENERATE POWER FOR DECADES.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN SAY SOLAR DOESN'T SUDDENLY STOP WORKING BECAUSE IT'S, UM, GUARANTEED A PRODUCTION FOR 25 YEARS.

WE HAVE MODULES IN SPACE THAT HAVE BEEN PRODUCING FOR OVER 50 YEARS IN MUCH HARSHER ENVIRONMENTS.

AND SO FOR, FOR FOLKS WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE MECHANICAL ASPECTS OF THESE SYSTEMS, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE DRIVING AN EV YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE AS MANY MOVING PARTS.

YOU DON'T HAVE, UM, HARMFUL FLUIDS, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, VERY PLEASED FOR THAT.

IS SOLAR, UH, O ON THE BUILDING ITSELF AND THEN OVER, UH, THE PART YOU SAID WAS REMOVED FROM THE RENDERING, BUT WILL BE THERE, IS THAT PART OF THE INITIAL PART OF CONSTRUCTION? I MEAN, IS THAT PART OF PHASE ONE? I MEAN, YOU MENTIONED FUTURE, SO WE WOULD JUST WANNA SEE WHEN IT GOES IN IT IS A PART OF IT.

YEAH.

FOR US TO ACHIEVE LEAD GOLD, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT SIX MEGAWATT SYSTEM THAT IS OVER THE EX EXPO HALLS.

WE CAN, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE VIABILITY FOR, UM, THE MARSHALING YARD.

AND MY LAST, UH, THING IS MORE OF, UM, I URGE YOU TO DO THIS, UH, IS, AND YOU MAY ALREADY HAVE IT IN THE PLAN, UM, THESE FORMS OF CLEAN ENERGY INSTALLED ANYWHERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR DALLAS ISD STUDENTS, FOR LOCAL COLLEGE STUDENTS, FOR FAMILIES VISITING, WHATEVER, WHATEVER.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY.

AND FOR SOLAR, I'M LESS FAMILIAR WITH GEOTHERMAL, BUT WITH SOLAR THERE IS, UM, SOFTWARE THAT CAN SHOW YOU REAL TIME PRODUCTION.

AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR GEOTHERMAL AS WELL.

AND IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE ON SOME HIGHLY EFFICIENT LED MONITOR MM-HMM .

UH, OUT FOR PEOPLE TO SEE WHEN THEY COME TO CONVENTIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, A NICE BIG SCREEN THAT SHOWS CURRENT GENERATION.

UM, IT'S, IT, IT MAKES IT FRONT AND CENTER THAT IT'S HAPPENING.

YEAH, THAT'S GREAT IDEA.

UM, YES SIR.

ONE A QUICK COMMENT, IF I MIGHT, YOU MENTIONED THE CEMETERY WE DOING WANT TO RESTORE THAT.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH CLM, THE CONSTELLATION OF LIVING MEMORIALS ORGANIZATION IN TOWN THAT'S RESTORING YES.

CEMETERIES IN YES.

WE'RE PRESENTED WITH THEM A FEW MONTHS AGO.

YES.

YES.

WE'RE, WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH MM-HMM .

SORRY, ONE LAST QUESTION.

I KNOW WE WANNA GET OUTTA HERE.

TECHNICAL NOTE ON SLIDE 15, WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR LEAD CRITERIA, DO WE NOT MEET THE CRITERIA MET FOR BIRD DETERRENCE? I NOTICED THERE WAS A QUESTION MARK.

UH, THAT WAS ONE, WELL, I SHOULD MOVE IT OVER, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT TOTAL COMMITMENT IN TERMS OF THE MIGRATORY PERIOD, BUT THAT'S ONE THAT WE PLAN TO BE MOVING OVER AS WE GO INTO CDS.

I, UM, I, WE HAVE A VERY, AS YOU COULD IMAGINE WITH ALL THE COMMITMENTS OF THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE A TEAM THAT SAYS, OKAY, I WANT IT IN WRITING AND I WANT IT IN OUR BMS SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE THAT.

SO AS SOON AS I SHOW IT, THEY'LL SEND, THEY'LL PUT IT OVER INTO THE YES COLUMN, BUT BOTH PLANS TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANKS.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

WE THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL PRESENTATION AND, AND REALLY HOPEFUL WORK.

AND IT JUST SHOWS HOW, UM, LOCAL EFFORTS CAN MAKE A HUGE IMPACT ON OUR, UM, OUR FAMILIES.

YEAH.

UM, OUR, OUR CHILDREN, WELL, CAN I JUST SAY A LONGTIME RESIDENT ADULTS, AND I'M PROUD OF YOUR GROUP 'CAUSE IT MAKES OUR JOB AS ARCHITECTS BETTER.

WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT FOR IT SO HARD.

SO THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT WE LOVE TO DO AND YOU'RE MAKING IT MUCH EASIER TO ACCOMPLISH THESE THINGS.

AND SO IS THE, LIKE ROSA AND REGGIE AND EVERYBODY ON THE TEAM HAS REALLY BEEN SUPPORTIVE.

SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU DO AND WE WE'RE GLAD TO BE PART OF IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I LIKE SAY, LIKE, SAY THE LAST THING TOO.

YES.

UH, CHAIR AND THE COMMITTEE.

UH, AS A LEAD DEPARTMENT WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, OUR DIRECTOR HAS MADE IT NUMBER ONE GOAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THESE GOALS.

SUSTAINABILITY IS JOB ONE.

UH, WE'VE ASKED ALL OF OUR PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS, UH, FIRST AND

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FOREMOST WITH THEM.

AND, UH, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S BEEN A DELIBERATE, UH, EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, COMPLY WITH THESE GOALS AND WE CAN DELIVER WHAT, UH, THE CITY WANTS.

AND WE GOT.

WONDERFUL.

AND THE THING ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, THIS ALWAYS PENCILS OUT.

YES.

ALWAYS PENCILS OUT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH AND WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT, UH, UH, THE BRIEFING MEMO.

WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

ANGELA HAJA, SCOTT, DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.

UM, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THIS SHORT AND SWEET.

THIS MEMO IS REALLY JUST TO MEMORIALIZE THAT, UM, ALL THE WORK THAT THE TEAM HAS BEEN DOING IN TERMS OF THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND STUDY THAT INCLUDES Y'ALL, UM, AND FOR THE INTERVENTION GUIDEBOOK AND THEN NOW ALSO FOR THE DALLAS HEAT STORY MAP, THAT ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, UM, HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED TO OUR WEBSITE AND ARE AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE TO UTILIZE.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY POINT OF THIS MEMO IS TO MEMORIALIZE THAT.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, REALLY WONDERFUL, IMPORTANT WORK.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UM, MONTHLY DISTRICT UPDATES.

WE'VE HAD, I KNOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT HAD TO BOUNCE.

UM, WE'LL START WITH, UH, DISTRICT ONE.

NOTHING TO REPORT THIS MONTH.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT TWO.

OH, UM, HE HAD TO LEAVE EARLY.

DISTRICT THREE IS VACANT.

DISTRICT FOUR IS VACANT.

I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT FOR DISTRICT FIVE.

DISTRICT SIX IS VACANT.

UH, DISTRICT SEVEN IS ON VACATION DISTRICT DATE.

UH, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE UP OUR EARTH DAY THAT WAS RAINED DOWN.

SO AT A CERTAIN POINT I JUST LET IT GO AND WE'LL SPEND THE REST OF THE YEAR HAVING EARTH YEAR WHERE I EDUCATE PEOPLE ON THAT.

BATCH PLANTS AND ON, UM, THE DATA CENTERS.

THERE'S POOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE DATA CENTERS AND I'M EDUCATING MYSELF.

SO I TRY TO FOLLOW RITA AROUND PENDING EVERYTHING THAT SHE HAS SO THAT I CAN, UH, DO SOME KIND OF COMMUNITY LEVEL POWERPOINT.

AND SHE'S BEEN A GREAT RESOURCE.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, DISTRICT NINE AS UNAVAILABLE ON A FLIGHT DISTRICT 10.

UM, SO THE, IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS I'VE ATTENDED OR HOSTED ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN E-WASTE EVENTS, WHICH HAVE ALL BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

AT LEAST HAPPY TO FIND A GOOD PLACE TO SEND THEIR STUFF.

I ALSO ATTENDED TODAY A PRESENTATION ON THE SOUTHWEST MEDICAL DISTRICT TRANSFORMATION, WHICH THEY SAID HE'D BE SENDING OUT THE SLIDESHOW ON.

AND I'LL SHARE THAT WITH THE GROUP WHEN I GET IT.

UM, IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING ALONG THE HARRY HINES CORRIDOR FROM MOCKINGBIRD SOUTH, UH, THROUGHOUT THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.

IT'S GOING TO MASSIVELY TRANSFORM THE PLA THE AREA INTO A BIG GREEN, UH, SPACE.

SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING AS THAT MOVES FORWARD.

GREAT.

UM, I'M SORRY, DISTRICT 12.

I'M SORRY, DISTRICT 11.

NOTHING TO REPORT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DISTRICT 12.

UM, YES, AS USUAL, LOTS TO REPORT.

I'LL TRY TO DEBRIEF.

UM, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING, UH, VERY HECK HEAVILY, UH, NOT NECESSARILY IN MY DISTRICT, BUT IN SOUTH DALLAS ON, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, PROBLEMS WITH FOOD INSECURITY, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, PETER JOHNSON AND BRAD BOA.

AND WE WILL HAVE MORE TO REPORT ON THIS AT A LATER TIME.

UH, WE ARE SETTING UP PASTORS MEETING TO TRY AND GET GARDENS AT CHURCHES AND LOOKING FOR FUNDING TO FUND, UH, THAT ACTIVITY ALONG WITH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITIES TO GO ALONG WITH THE GARDENS.

UM, UH, UH, I THINK THAT LATER, UH, UH, UH, UH, WE WILL BE TALKING, UH, IN THE HEALTH COMMITTEE ABOUT WEST NILE AND SOME OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE THERE.

UM, UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, OUR COUNCILMAN AND WE ARE GOING TO, UH,

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ORGANIZE A DISTRICT MEETING, WHICH IS ONE OF THE TASKS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AS COMMISSIONERS.

UM, UH, THE, UM, I'M ALSO THE CHAIR, UH, CO-CHAIR, THE SENIOR CO-CHAIR FOR THE TEXAS PEDIATRICS SOCIETY ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE.

AND, UH, THAT'S A FAIRLY NEW COMMITTEE THAT WAS AN, UH, I HELPED INSPIRE AND WE'RE WORKING ON A PLAN THERE AND WOULD HOPE TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE THAT WITH SOME OF THE FINE ACTIVITIES THAT WE'VE DONE HERE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

AND THEN LASTLY, I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE TEMPLE SHALOM GARDEN, WHICH OF COURSE IS ACTUALLY IN DISTRICT 11.

I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO COME AND VISIT.

AND, UM, WE JUST PASSED 18,000 POUNDS OF PRODUCE, UH, PRODUCED.

AND, UH, LAST WEEKEND I KNOW THEY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY HARVESTED 144 POUNDS OF PRODUCE IN ONE WEEKEND.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY, TEMPLE SHALOM, UH, IS LOOKING FOR ENROLLMENT IN THEIR NEW PRESCHOOL, WHICH WILL HAVE A NATURE THEME AND, UH, AVAILABLE SPACE FOR WORKING PARENTS.

UH, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING, UH, THEY'VE DESIGNED A CURRICULUM WHICH IS BOTH, UM, CULTURALLY APPROPRIATE TO JEWISH VALUES AND EMPHASIZES THE NATURE THEME IN TERMS OF INVOLVEMENT OF, OF THE PRESCHOOL STUDENTS.

IT'S VERY INNOVATIVE, THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, DISTRICT 13, LET'S SEE.

COMMISSIONER POST, UH, DISTRICT 14.

YES, I HAVE ONE UPDATE, UH, WHICH IS ALSO FOR COMMISSIONER POSTON.

UM, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SHE HAD A DROP.

SHE ORGANIZED THE TABLE FOR THE EVC AT THE TEXAS MASTER NATURALIST NATIVE PLANTS, UH, EVENT IN EARLY MAY.

AND SO, UM, I STAFFED IT WITH HER AND SHE HAD TO LEAVE AFTER A COUPLE HOURS, BUT I STAYED MOST OF THE DAY.

IT WAS VERY GOOD TURNOUT.

IT WAS A GREAT DAY.

UH, IAN THERE, UM, MADE A LOT OF GOOD CONNECTIONS, ESPECIALLY IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SURROUND MY DISTRICT.

SO I'M HOPING TO, UM, BE ABLE TO PARLAY THAT INTO A FEW, UM, SPEAKING OPPORTUNITIES AT THEIR, UM, UPCOMING.

IT WAS A GREAT DAY.

UH, DISTRICT 15 ON SATURDAY, I WILL BE LEADING A WORK SESSION AT THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS, UH, NATIONAL CONFERENCE ON HOW ARCHITECTS CAN BECOME ADVOCATES AND HELP INFORM CITY POLICY.

AND I WILL BE HOLDING UP WHAT WE DID HERE WITH DALLAS CCAP AND THE BOND PERFORMANCE CRITERIA AS AN EXAMPLE, AND A TEMPLATE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO REINVENT THE PROCESS AND THE WORKFLOW.

THEY CAN JUST TAKE WHAT WE HAVE OR THEY CAN JUST WATCH THE VIDEOS OF THE TWO PITCH SESSIONS THAT WE DID AND SEAL WHATEVER GREAT IDEAS FROM THERE THAT ARE EFFECTIVE IN THEIR LOCAL MUNICIPALITY.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TO GET STARTED AND TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE.

SO WE'LL BE SHARING THAT WITH THE ARCHITECTURE COMMUNITY ON SATURDAY.

GREAT.

OH, AND MISS STEPHANIE, IF YOU CAN HELP ME GET THOSE LINKS ON THE WEBSITE REACTIVATED SO THAT I CAN HELP POINT PEOPLE TO THOSE RESOURCES, THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING FROM ANY OF OUR TECHNICAL ADVISORS? DAVID? I'M SORRY, MR. MARQUIS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

UM, TWO THINGS.

WHY ROCK LAKE BATHHOUSE CENTER, AN ART CENTER WITH ART GALLERY SPACES AS THE COOLEST SHOW UP RIGHT NOW? UH, THE ENTIRE SHOW IS MADE OUT OF RECYCLED MATERIAL, INCLUDING TRASH PICKED UP FROM THE SHORES WHITE .

IT ALSO INCLUDES SOME REALLY REMARKABLE RUGS THAT MY WIFE MADE OF FLASHING BAGS.

SO IF YOU WANNA SEE ART MAY RECYCLED MATERIAL, YOU KNOW, THE BATH CULTURAL CINEMA BETWEEN NOW AND JULY 4TH.

UH, THE OTHER ARTIST IN THE SHOW IS, UH, SHELBY ARD AND THERE'S DONE A WHOLE HUGE WALL SIZE PIECES.

SO YOU WANNA LOOK AT SOME REALLY COOL ART AND VERY VITAMIN AND SENSITIVE BUILD THE BATH CULTURAL CINEMA BETWEEN NOW AND JULY 4TH.

LOOK THAT ALSO, ONCE YOU MENTION THAT, UM, UH, WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, MAKE A LITTLE MORE PROGRESS BY, UH, THIRD PARTY RIVER DELIVER BLESSINGS.

IT'S ABOUT TO GO TO PRESS.

WE'LL BE PRINTED HERE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, BE OUT IN SEPTEMBER.

WE DO SOME READINGS, GO ALL THAT PICKED UP KEVIN THE OTHER DAY WITH THE MARKETING TEAM COVER.

SO, UH, MANY WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.

ALL GOOD MEETING.

WE REALLY GOT TO CUT THE PLATES AND BOOK.

OKAY.

SO BUNCH.

LET THEM MAKE WONDERFUL MS. BEDING.

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ALRIGHT, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YOU CAN.

WELL, UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, I HAVE A BIG FOCUS ON DATA CENTERS.

UM, YESTERDAY I WAS IN HOOD COUNTY WHERE A DATA CENTER GOT CONDITIONALLY APPROVED OF 2,600 ACRES.

UH, I WAS IN HILL COUNTY WHERE THE MORATORIUM FIRST MORATORIUM IN THE STATE WAS PROPOSED AND RESCINDED WITHIN TWO WEEKS.

UH, UH, I'VE BEEN TRAVELING TO SPEAK TO OTHER COUNTIES.

I WAS IN JOHNSON COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT SPEAKING ON DATA CENTERS.

I'M SPEAKING IN MAY THIS WEEKEND, GRAND VIEW AND TOOL.

NEXT WEEK, UM, THERE ARE SOME NEW REPORTS ON DATA CENTERS.

IF FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN THEM, I CAN GET THEM TO YOU.

BUT AS OF THIS WEEK, TEXAS MAY HAVE SURPASSED VIRGINIA ACCORDING TO CUSHMAN WAKEFIELD FOR THE NUMBER OF DATA CENTERS NATIONWIDE.

UM, AND TO GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA, THAT DATA CENTER AT MERLE MAY PEARL IS ALMOST 3000 ACRES WITH TWO NATURAL GAS PLANTS CO-LOCATED WITH IT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND IN HOOD COUNTY, OUT OF THE NINE DATA CENTERS PROPOSED EIGHT ARE CO-LOCATED WITH BRAND NEW NATURAL GAS PLANTS.

SO THINK OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA DO TO OUR AIR SHED AND WHAT IT COULD MEAN FOR OUR CA.

SO THANKS, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US INFORMED ON THAT.

UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL BE HEARING ABOUT A STRATEGY SESSION THAT WE HAVE COMING UP.

UH, THAT INFORMATION WILL GO OUT TO YOU, UM, IF IT HASN'T ALREADY.

STEPHANIE, DO YOU KNOW, HAS THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE STRATEGY SESSION ALREADY GONE OUT? OKAY.

NOT YET, BUT, BUT YOU'LL BE HEARING ABOUT THAT AND, UM, SAY PARDON.

OKAY.

COOL.

DEAL.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVED.

AWESOME.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

AYE.

ALL.