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SALLY ALCORN AND WELCOME TO THE 
          [Budget and Fiscal Affairs on November 4, 2025.]
NOVEMBER BUDGET AND FISCAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          YOU CAN SEE ON THE AGENDA WE HAVE A FULL LOAD, SO WE'LL GET STARTED RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO FIRST WELCOME, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE. 
          I, MY VICE CHAIR MARIO CASTILLO, VICE MAYOR PRO TEM AMY PECK, COUNCIL MEMBER FRED FLICKINGER, COUNCIL MEMBER JOAQUIN MARTINEZ, AND COUNCIL MEMBER JULIAN RAMIREZ. 
          ALSO JOINING US IS STAFF FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ANNE HUFFMAN'S, DISTRICT G OFFICE, AND, UM, STAFF FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM MARTHA CASTEX TATUM'S OFFICE, AND A STAFF FROM COUNCIL MEMBER LETITIA PLUMMER'S OFFICE IS JOINING ONLINE. 
          SO WE WILL START WITH THE MONTHLY QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT, AND WE HAVE WILL JONES FROM THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, AND MELISSA DEBOWSKI, DIRECTOR OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND TIFFANY THOMAS STAFF AND ALSO STAFF FROM TIFFANY THOMAS'S OFFICE IS RIGHT HERE WITH US. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          OKAY, WELL YOU CAN GO RIGHT AHEAD. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING. 
          UH, GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR. 
          I'M MEMBERS AND STAFF. 
          I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. 
          IN THE GENERAL FUND, THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE IS PROJECTING AN ENDING FUND BALANCE OF 303.4 MILLION OR 11.9% OF EXPENDITURES, LESS DEBT SERVICE AND PAY AS YOU GO FOR FY UH, 2026. 
          THIS IS 70.1 MILLION LOWER THAN THE PROJECTION OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          THE DIFFERENCE IS DUE TO A LOWER REVENUE PROJECTION THAN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          BASED ON OUR CURRENT PROJECTIONS, THE FUND BALANCE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 112.8 MILLION ABOVE THE CITY'S TARGET OF HOLDING 7.5% OF TOTAL EXPENDITURES, EXCLUDING DEBT SERVICE AND PAY AS YOU GO AND RESERVE. 
          THE FY 2026 BEGINNING FUND BALANCE IS 36.7 MILLION HIGHER THAN THE FY 2025 ENDING, UH, FUND BALANCE REPORTED IN JUNE 30, UH, 2025. 
          UH, THE INCREASES DUE TO YEAR END ADJUSTMENTS TO REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES THAT WILL NOT BE FINAL UNTIL UNTIL THE COMPLETION OF THE FY 2025 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FIN UH, FINANCIAL REPORT. 
          WE HAVE DECREASED OUR REVENUE PROJECTION BY 51.3 MILLION FROM THE AUGUST REPORT AS FOLLOWS, PROPERTY TAX DECREASED BY 52.6 MILLION TO REFLECT THE RECENTLY ADOPTED TAX RATE TRANSFERS FROM OTHER FUNDS INCREASED BY 1.3 MILLION DUE TO FEMA REIMBURSEMENTS. 
          UH, FOR DIRETO CATEGORY B DISASTER COSTS. 
          WE HAVE INCREASED OUR EXPENDITURE EXPENDITURE PROJECTION BY 1.9 MILLION FROM THE AUGUST REPORT, PRIMARILY DUE TO ADDITIONAL SECURITY SERVICES AT THE HOUSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY. 
          WE HAVE MADE THE FOLLOWING CHANGES IN THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THE DEDICATED DRAINAGE STREET AND RENEWAL FUND AT VALOREM. 
          TOTAL REVENUES INCREASED BY 1 MILLION DUE TO HIGHER INTEREST IN POOLED INVESTMENTS. 
          WE ARE PROJECTING NO OTHER CHANGES IN THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS FOR OUR COMMERCIAL PAPER AND BONDS. 
          THE CITY'S PRACTICE HAS BEEN TO MAINTAIN NO MORE THAN 20% OF THE TOTAL OUTSTANDING DEBT FOR EACH TYPE OF DEBT IN A VARIABLE RATE STRUCTURE, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH THE RATING AGENCY'S GUIDANCE OF 25% FROM TIME TO TIME. 
          THE CITY'S ENTERPRISE CREDITS HAVE EXCEEDED THIS THRESHOLD ON AN INTERIM BASIS AS THEY HAVE UNDERTAKEN LARGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS OR MAJOR EXPANSIONS. 
          SO, MADAM CHAIR, I'LL MOVE ON TO THE QUARTERLY REPORT. 
          UM, AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025, THE CITY HAD $6.3 BILLION INVESTED IN OUR JOURNAL INVESTMENT POOL. 
          THE CHARACTER OF THIS POOL IS THAT OF SHORT TERM BOND FUND THAT HOLDS INVESTMENTS OF VERY HIGH CREDIT QUALITY FITCH RATINGS REVIEWED THIS POOL AND ASSIGNED THE POOL ITS HIGHEST RATING OF AAA. 
          OUR INVESTMENT STRATEGY IS TO MATCH ASSETS AND LIABILITIES FOR A TIME PERIOD OF ONE YEAR INTO THE FUTURE AND TO EXERCISE DISCRETION FOR THE BALANCE OF REMAINING FUNDS. 
          INVESTMENTS ARE 678 MILLION HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR, AND THIS IS PRIMARILY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE NEW BOND TRANSACTION IN AVIATION AND HIGHER REVENUE AND THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. 
          AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. 
          THE GENERAL INVESTMENT POOL WAS YIELDING 4.05%, WHICH IS DOWN FROM THE 4.081% YIELD IN THE PRIOR QUARTER. 
          IN ADDITION, THE GENERAL INVESTMENT POOL, WE HAVE TWO SMALL INVESTMENT POOLS THAT TOTAL ABOUT 16 MILLION. 
          THESE POOLS EXIST TO COMPLY WITH TAX REQUIREMENTS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          A DETAILED LISTING OF ALL THE SECURITIES OWNED BY THE CITY APPEARS IN THE BACK OF THE INVESTMENT REPORT ALONG WITH OUR INVESTMENT REPORT. 
          WE HAVE INCLUDED WITH THIS MO FAR THE QUARTERLY SWAP REPORT, UH, AS IS REQUIRED BY CITY SWAP POLICY. 
          THE WRITTEN SWAP REPORT THAT APPEARS IN THE MO FAR OFFERS A COMPREHENSIVE DESCRIPTION OF OUR TWO SWAP POSITIONS. 
          THE CITY 
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HAD A NET PAID FOR THE THREE MONTH ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025 FOR MS SWAPS OF TWO HUNDRED TEN TWO HUNDRED 10,000. 
          THIS MARKET VALUE FOR BOTH SWAPS AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025 WAS NEGATIVE 69 MILLION, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 8 MILLION MORE THAN PRIOR QUARTER OF NEGATIVE 61 MILLION. 
          THE CITY SWAPS ARE FAIRLY COMPLEX, AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE REPORT, PLEASE CONTACT OUR OFFICE, TALK TO VERNON, HE CAN EXPLAIN ALL THAT TO YOU. 
          UM, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 
          THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          THIS IS THE THREE PLUS NINE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. 
          FISCAL YEAR 26 PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON THREE MONTHS OF ACTUAL RESULTS AND NINE MONTHS OF PROJECTIONS FOR THE GENERAL FUND. 
          OUR REVENUE PROJECTION IS 1.3 MILLION HIGHER THAN THE ADOPTED BUDGET AND THE PRIOR MONTH, THE VARIANCE FROM THE PRIOR MONTH PROJECTION IS DUE TO AN INCREASE IN TRANSFERS FROM OTHER FUNDS TO REFLECT FEMA REIMBURSEMENT FOR DIRETO CATEGORY B DISASTER COSTS FOR SALES TAX. 
          WE'RE NOT MAKING MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THE SALES TAX PROJECTION THIS MONTH, BUT, UH, FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST, UH, THE SALES TAX RECEIPTS ARE 1.44% LOWER THAN THE SAME PERIOD LAST YEAR, AND WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR. 
          IN ORDER TO MEET THE CURRENT ESTIMATE OF 902 MILLION, THE REMAINING PERIODS WOULD NEED TO COME IN ABOUT 2.2% BELOW PRIOR YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE STILL ON TRACK. 
          ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, OUR PROJECTION IS 1.9 MILLION HIGHER THAN THE ADOPTED BUDGET, UH, AND THE PRIOR MONTH. 
          THE VARIANCE FROM THE PRIOR MONTH PROJECTION IS BASED ON PRIMARILY $1.5 MILLION INCREASE IN GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND A RA, UH, DEPARTMENT FOR SECURITY SERVICES FOR, UH, LIBRARY LOCATIONS AS WELL AS BARK. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE A $250,000 INCREASE FOR THE LIBRARY TO SUPPORT THE, UH, FREEDMAN TOWN VISITOR CENTER. 
          SO WITH THOSE CHANGES TOGETHER, WE'RE CURRENTLY PROJECTING THE ENDING FUND BALANCE TO BE 373.5 MILLION, WHICH IS 667,000 LOWER THAN THE PRIOR MONTH, AND REPRESENTS 14.7% OF ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES NOT INCLUDING DEBT SERVICE AND PAY AS YOU GO. 
          THAT FUND BALANCE IS 182.9 MILLION ABOVE THE TARGET OF HOLDING 7.5%. 
          UH, THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE HAS ALREADY REFLECTED THE DECREASE IN THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE ESTIMATE IN THEIR PROJECTIONS AND WILL BE REFLECTING THAT IN THE FOLLOWING MONTH. 
          UM, DUE TO THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE, UH, HAPPENING IN OCTOBER FOR ENTERPRISE SPECIAL REVENUE AND OTHER FUNDS, UM, WE'RE ONLY PROJECTING A CHANGE IN REVENUE FOR, UM, UH, D-D-S-R-F BY $1 MILLION DUE TO HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED INTEREST ON POOLED INVESTMENTS. 
          UM, AND FOR THE ESSENTIAL PUBLIC HEALTH FUND EXPENDITURE INCREASE BY 2.5 MILLION DUE TO HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED SECURITY SERVICES FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, SINCE IT'S A QUARTERLY REPORT, I'LL GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE ECONOMY. 
          UH, FOR THE EMPLOYMENT FOR THE HOUSTON AREA, THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, PRELIMINARY TOTAL NON FORM EMPLOYMENT FOR THE HOUSTON WOODLAND SUGARLAND METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREA, UM, REMAINS ABOUT UNCHANGED COMPARED TO THE PRIOR MONTH. 
          UH, FOR THE ENERGY SECTOR, THE AVERAGE OIL PRICE IS ABOUT $64 PER BARREL AND IS ABOUT 1.4% LOWER THAN THE PRIOR MONTH FOR HOME SALES. 
          THE LATEST REPORT PREPARED BY THE HOUSTON ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER SHOWS SINGLE FAMILY HOME SALES WAS ABOUT 5% HIGHER THAN THE PRIOR UH, YEAR. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I'D LIKE TO WELCOME COUNCIL MEMBER TIFFANY THOMAS TO THE CHAMBER. 
          ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER ABBY CAYMAN JOINED US A LITTLE BIT EARLIER AND WE HAVE STAFF ONLINE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER EVAN SHABAZZ'S OFFICE AND COUNCIL MEMBER TWILA CARTER'S OFFICE'S OFFICE AND COUNCIL MEMBER ED POLLARD'S OFFICE. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US. 
          A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT DIRECTOR, ABOUT WHEN YOU'LL REFLECT THE 50. 
          I KNOW THE CONTROLLER TOOK THE 53 MILLION THIS MONTH, BUT WHEN WILL YOU DO THAT? NEXT MONTH. 
          NEXT MONTH? YES. 
          NEXT MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE, OH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE. 
          I'LL GO TO MY COLLEAGUES FIRST. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER RAMIREZ. 
          THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. 
          WILL, I'VE GOT, UH, JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT, UM, INTEREST, PROJECTED INTEREST REVENUE. 
          UH, YOUR PROJECTIONS ARE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS LOWER THAN THE, UM, FINANCE DEPARTMENTS. 
          DO YOU SEE THAT ON PAGE 12? YES. 
          AND DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHY THAT IS? YEAH, SO WE BASE OUR PROJECTIONS, UH, IT'S BASED ON OUR TRENDS REPORT THAT WE, UH, PROVIDED BACK IN MAY OR SO. 
          UM, SO TYPICALLY, WE'LL, WE'LL WASH THE CASH THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND, UM, WE'LL INCREASE OUR PROJECTION IF IT WEREN'T, BUT WE JUST, IT IS JUST BASED ON OUR TRENDS REPORT. 
          UM, WE USUALLY COME IN LINE BY 
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THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          STAFF FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HUFFMAN'S OFFICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION ON PAGE 47 OF THE FINANCIAL REPORT. 
          SO I THINK LAST YEAR SOMETIME THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION AT THE COUNCIL, UM, AND MAYBE SOME AGREEMENT ABOUT EXCLUDING POLICE AND FIRE CONTRACTS FOR THE CIVIC ART PROGRAM APPROPRIATION. 
          COULD YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT, UH, ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT? SO THE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT GETS APPROPRIATED FOR CIVIC ART IS, UM, PURSUANT TO AN ORDINANCE THAT CITY COUNCIL PASSED, I'M NOT SURE OF THE YEAR, BUT O OVER A DECADE AGO. 
          UM, AND THAT ORDINANCE, UM, TALKS ABOUT THE 1.75% OF VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GOING TOWARDS CIVIC ART. 
          UM, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE SINCE THAT, SINCE THAT DISCUSSION. 
          UM, I, I, I'M UNAWARE OF ANY UPDATES, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT ORDINANCE IS STILL THE WAY IT HAS BEEN ON THE, ON PAGE 18 OF THE MOER, IT'S BREAKS DOWN THE, THE DEDICATED DRAINAGE AND STREET RENEWAL FUND. 
          I KNOW THAT THE LAWSUIT REQUIRES US TO PUT IN, UH, CAPTURED REVENUES OF, UH, CLOSE TO $184 MILLION THIS YEAR. 
          HOW DOES THAT COME OUT? I MEAN, I KNOW YEAR TO DATE WE'VE NOT PUT ANY MONEY TOWARDS THAT, BUT HOW, HOW DOES THAT GET ALLOCATED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? OR DOES IT COME AT THE END OR IT, THE TRANSFER USUALLY COMES IN JUNE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHEN YOU SEE THE LAST QUARTERLY REPORT, YOU'LL SEE THE, THE YEAR TO DATE COMING INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT TYPICALLY THE SPENDING DOES HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          SO THIS, THE FUNDING GOES INTO THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE SPENDING COMES OUT OF, UM, THERE'S ALSO CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS THAT RECEIVE REVENUE FROM THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. 
          SO THE, WHILE THE WORK IS STILL ONGOING, UM, YOU, YOU DON'T SEE THE CASH RETURN UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          THE TRAINS NOT REFLECTED IN THIS TILL THE END. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND DIRECTOR, THERE'S A FEW ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW, AND I KNOW WE'VE COVERED THESE IN BFA, BUT THEY'RE LARGE, UM, ITEMS HAVING TO DO WITH THE AIRPORT, SPECIAL FACILITIES, REVENUE BONDS. 
          OKAY. 
          IF YOU COULD KIND OF, UM, BRIEFLY DESCRIBE WHAT'S HAPPENING TOMORROW. 
          ONE'S FOR THE CO SPECIAL FACILITIES LEASE AGREEMENT. 
          UM, UH, FOR ONE'S FOR CONCESSION, ONE'S FOR A BUILDING AND OF REFUNDING YEAH. 
          AND THE REFUNDING. 
          SURE. 
          SO JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER THOSE. 
          SURE. 
          SO TWO OF THE ITEMS ARE, UM, NEW MONEY THAT THE FINANCE WORKING GROUP, UM, HAS BEEN WORKING TOGETHER WITH UNITED, UM, TO TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL SPECIAL FACILITY REVENUE BONDS TO FINANCE, UH, WAREHOUSE AND A CATERING FACILITY AT, UM, GEORGE BUSH AIRPORT. 
          UM, THOSE TWO ITEMS TOGETHER TOTAL ABOUT $400 MILLION. 
          THE SOURCE OF THE REPAYMENT FOR THOSE ITEMS COMES SOLELY THROUGH UNITED, UM, FACILITY LEASE PAYMENTS. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATIONS OF THE AIRPORT SYSTEM, GENERAL REVENUES OR ANY OTHER REVENUES OF THE CITY, BUT SOLELY THROUGH UNITED'S LEASE PAYMENTS. 
          UM, SO THOSE ARE TWO OUT OF THE THREE ITEMS YOU MENTIONED. 
          THE THIRD ITEM IS, UM, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR REFUNDING FOR SAVINGS. 
          SO THERE ARE SOME OUTSTANDING BONDS. 
          I I BELIEVE THEY'RE ISSUED IN 2011 AND 2015. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERNON, UM, SERIES 2011 AND 2015, UM, THAT RIGHT NOW WE COULD, UM, REFUND FOR SAVINGS, WHICH WOULD FREE UP SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES. 
          UH, SO NO NEW DEBT BEING ISSUED ON THAT ONE, BUT RATHER REFUNDING AND REISSUING AT A LOWER INTEREST RATE THAN THEY WERE ISSUED AT INITIALLY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THOSE WERE LARGER NUMBERS AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT'S A, THAT'S UNITED ON THE HOOK FOR THOSE THROUGH THE LEASE PAYMENTS. 
          WE'RE NOT USING OUR FUNDS. 
          AND, AND YOU DID MENTION THAT THE, THERE THE DROP IN SALES TAX REVENUE, BUT, BUT YOU GUYS PUT IN EVEN MORE OF A DROP, UM, IN THE BUDGET. 
          SO WE'RE STILL OKAY ON SALES TAX? YES, I THINK SO. 
          STILL MONITORING. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          ALRIGHT, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE, SO I'LL LET YOU GO ON TO THE UPDATE ON THE ERNST AND YOUNG PROGRESS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WILL JONES AND VERNON, WE'RE ALL GONNA TAKE A SWAP CLASS FROM YOU, SWAP 1 0 1 WITH VERNON LEWIS COMING UP FOR EY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'LL BE JOINED BY JED GREENFIELD, WHO IS HEAD OF STRATEGIC PURCHASING AND TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE WILL, WHERE WE ARE WITH THE EY. 
          JUST TO, JUST TO RECAP A LITTLE BIT, COLLEAGUES ON THE, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING QUARTERLY UPDATES ON THE EY PROGRESS IN THE BUDGET WE PASSED IN JUNE. 
          UM, IT INCLUDED $16 MILLION IN DEPARTMENT RED BUDGET REDUCTIONS, $19 MILLION IN SAVINGS ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATED WITH CONSOLIDATIONS, AND 18 MILLION EXPECTED SAVINGS FROM IMPLEMENTING MORE STRATEGIC PROCUREMENT 
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PRACTICES. 
          SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE TOUCHING ON ALL THOSE ITEMS TODAY, PROCEED. 
          SURE. 
          ON THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE, UH, ACCOMPLISHED OVER THIS LAST QUARTER. 
          UM, JUST TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          WHERE WE WERE FROM THE INITIAL EFFICIENCY STUDY WAS IDENTIFYING OUR SPENDING ANALYSIS TOOL. 
          NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT BASED ON CATEGORIES. 
          SO WE LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR SPEND, ALL OF OUR SPEND CAN GO DOWN TO CERTAIN NIGP CODES. 
          SO THESE ARE SERVICE CODES, COMMODITY CODES THAT WE THEN LOOK AT AND CATEGORIZE TO HELP US, UH, KIND OF SLICE THE PIE ON HOW WE LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES SAVED. 
          SO, UH, THE COUPLE THINGS I'LL JUST POINT OUT HERE IS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT PART OF THE ANALYSIS, UH, AND WE'RE NOW STARTING TO LOOK FOR WHERE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WILL EXIST IN GOING FORWARD, WHERE WE CAN SEE THAT SAVINGS. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS ONE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE SEVEN MASTER CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF EY LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR SPEND. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY WE, WE HAVE TAKEN EVERYTHING AND WE PUT IT WITHIN THESE, WE NOW HAVE, WE'RE NOW WORKING ON WITHIN STRATEGIC PROCUREMENT TO THE ACTUAL GOVERNANCE AND RESTRUCTURING OF OUR OPERATIONS BASED ON THESE CATEGORIES. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE, WE HAVE CATEGORY MANAGERS WHO ARE MANAGING THAT SPEND, UH, BOTH IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE SPEND AND LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING IN. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE THERE, YOU KNOW, UH, FLEET MANAGEMENT EQUIPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC WORKS, INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS AND SERVICES, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING, DESIGN SERVICES, CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, FACILITY AND MAINTENANCE OPERATION AND MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS, UH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND PROFESSIONAL AND HUMAN SERVICES. 
          AND THEN IT GIVES YOU A LIST OF SOME SUBCATEGORIES THERE, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS PART OF IT REALLY JUST, UH, SUMMARIZING AGAIN, THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH AS WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHAT THOSE PAYMENTS IN SAP ARE, THAT WE'RE, WHERE OUR EXPENDITURES ARE AT AND HOW THEY FIT NOW INTO THOSE CATEGORIES. 
          THE THING I'LL POINT OUT ON THIS SLIDE, UH, JUST AS LOOKING AT THE OUTPUTS. 
          SO WE HAVE NOW COMPLETED THE SPEND ANALYSIS WITH THE FILTERS OF EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES, SO THAT WE'RE NOW LOOKING BY CATEGORY WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES EXIST. 
          SO WE HAVE THAT FINAL CATEGORY, UH, TAXONOMY COMPLETED, AND WE'RE NOW GOING THROUGH TO LOOK AT OUR MASTER VENDOR LIST AND WHERE THOSE VENDORS, UH, PERFORM WITHIN THOSE CATEGORIES. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WITH THE COMPLETION OF THAT SPEND ANALYSIS, WE NOW CAN LOOK AT, UH, AND THERE'S A, A STILL SHOT HERE OF THE DASHBOARD THAT WE DEMONSTRATED EARLIER THIS YEAR, UH, AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. 
          BUT JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS FROM THIS SPEND ANALYSIS ON EACH CATEGORY, WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE SUBCATEGORIES AND FIND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN SUBCATEGORIES. 
          WE CAN LOOK SPECIFICALLY DOWN TO THE NIGP CODE ON AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SPEND. 
          UH, WE CAN LOOK AT DEPARTMENTS TO HAVE THE HIGHEST SPEND IN EACH CATEGORY. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY A CATEGORY LIKE PUBLIC WORKS AND INDUSTRIAL SERVICES, NO SURPRISE THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS GONNA BE THE LARGE SPENDER THERE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE LOOK AT SPEND, UH, OVER TIME BY CATEGORY. 
          SO HOW DOES THAT CHANGE AND WHAT CAN IT TELL US, UH, IN PREPARATION FOR WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING LIKE AS WE GO, UH, FORWARD. 
          AND THEN THE LAST ONE THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT IS SORT OF OUR, OUR FIRST INITIAL STEP IS LOOKING AT CONTRACT VERSUS NON-CONTRACT SPEND. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA GAIN A LOT OF THE EARLY, UM, SAVINGS OPPORTUNITIES. 
          THE MORE WE CAN PUT PURCHASES UNDER CONTRACTS THAT HAVE TERMED PRICING, THAT HAVE NEGOTIATED PRICING, THE BETTER FOR US. 
          AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT TRYING TO REDUCE THOSE ONE-TIME, UH, NEEDS OF PURCHASES AND DO MULTI-YEAR CONTRACTS, NOT ONLY IN THE SAVINGS AND TERMS OF THE ACTUAL COST, BUT ALSO JUST FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT IN SPD, THE, THE VOLUME OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          UH, WE WANT TO BRING THOSE DOWN SO THAT WE CAN DO WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR, OUR QUEUES A LOT QUICKER. 
          UM, ONE THING THAT I'LL POINT OUT HERE AS A RESULT, SOME OF THE EARLY RESULTS THAT WE'RE SEEING AS PART OF THIS WORK, FOR INSTANCE, UH, WE BROUGHT FORWARD A CONTRACT, UH, THAT, THAT YOU ALL APPROVED A FEW MONTHS BACK FOR AMAZON. 
          UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF NON-CONTRACT SPEND THAT WAS HAPPENING ON AMAZON OR THE KIND OF PURCHASES THAT HAPPENED THERE. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE WERE TO LEV, UH, LEVERAGE BETTER PRICING FROM AMAZON. 
          NOW THAT IT'S CONTRACT, WE ALSO NEGOTIATED A REBATE WITH AMAZON. 
          SO WHEN WE REACH CERTAIN SPEND THRESHOLDS, WE GET A PERCENTAGE BACK. 
          BUT WE ALSO COORDINATED THAT WITH THE COOPERATIVE THAT WE UTILIZE TO PIGGYBACK OFF THAT CONTRACT HAS AN ADDITIONAL REBATE THAT WE CAN USE. 
          SO NOW WE'RE PUTTING TWO REBATES ON TOP OF EACH OTHER FOR EVERY PURCHASE MADE. 
          AND THEN THE FINAL PART OF THAT IS WE USE OUR PCARDS, WHICH IS WHAT WE PRIMARILY DO WITH OUR AMAZON ACCOUNT. 
          WE THEN HAVE A THIRD REBATE THAT COMES BACK FROM JP MORGAN CHASE. 
          SO THIS IS A WAY THAT WE STRATEGICALLY LAYERED ALL THOSE REBATES BACK SO THAT WHEN YOU SEE THE PRICE ON THE ACTUAL CONTRACT PRICE, IT'S A LOWER PRICE THAT WE NEGOTIATE OUT ON THE CONTRACT, BUT THEN THERE'S A TRIPLE REBATE STRUCTURE THAT WE GET FUNDS THAT ARE BACK. 
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NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS ONE HERE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE SUMMARY OF WHERE WE'RE NOW SEEING THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES. 
          NOW THAT WE HAVE ALL OF OUR SPEND BY CATEGORY. 
          WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR TOP SPENDING CONTRACTS, THIS IS WHERE WE FEEL THAT, WHERE WE CAN GO AND CONCENTRATE TO GET, UH, THE SAVINGS THAT WE NEED TO. 
          UH, I'LL, I'LL JUST POINT OUT A COUPLE OF, UH, AREAS HERE. 
          ONE, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE LARGEST ONE HERE IS OUR FACILITIES AND MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS. 
          UM, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES IN HOW WE MANAGE THOSE CONTRACTS, HOW WE LEVERAGE THOSE, BRINGING IN MORE MSA TYPE CONTRACTS. 
          UH, AS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS AGAIN THAT WE'VE SEEN EARLY ON, UH, WE'VE BROUGHT A COUPLE OF CONTRACTS, UH, TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL THAT ARE A FULL SERVICE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. 
          SO THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF BUILDINGS UNDER A CONTRACT, AND THAT VENDOR PERFORMS ALL ASPECTS, HVAC, UH, JANITORIAL, UH, WINDOW WATCHING, ALL THOSE VARIOUS ASPECTS. 
          BUT BECAUSE THE SPEND IS SO LARGE, WE'RE ABLE TO GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE THROUGH AN MSA RATHER THAN A TRADITIONAL PRIME CONTRACTOR WHO MARKS UP ALL THE SUBCONTRACTORS, JUST A STRAIGHT FLAT FEE THAT WE GET FROM THE PRIME VENDOR. 
          AND SO THEN THEY JUST PASS THROUGH AND WE PAY THOSE SUBCONTRACTORS AS THAT WORK IS DONE. 
          SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER, UM, PRICE POINT FOR US BECAUSE THE VOLUME OF SPEND THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY LOOK, HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE THE VOLUME OF SPEND THAT THE CITY OF HOUSTON HAS TO BRING THESE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE EARLY ON THAT WE HAVE SEEN. 
          WE'RE NOW GOING THROUGH EACH OF THOSE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND FINDING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UH, I'LL POINT OUT THAT THE LAST ONE HERE, UM, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES, DESIGN SERVICES, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE. 
          UH, WE MAY NOT SEE A WHOLE LOT OF SAVINGS THERE AS YOU KNOW, WHEN THE WAY THAT WE AWARD THOSE CONTRACTS IS THROUGH A REQUEST OF QUALIFICATIONS. 
          SO WE'RE NOT, UH, AWARDING OR SELECTING BASE ON PRICE. 
          AND THEN WE GO AND NEGOTIATE EACH INDIVIDUAL CONTRACT BASED ON SCOPE AND PRICE. 
          SO THERE MAY NOT BE A WHOLE LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES OF SAVINGS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME EFFICIENCIES THAT WE WILL BRING, UH, AS WE LOOK AT THAT CATEGORY. 
          BUT THAT, THAT ESSENTIALLY SUMMARIZES THE WORK WHERE WE'VE DONE, WHERE WE'RE AT TO DATE. 
          SO NOW WE KNOW EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES LIE, WE'LL PRIORITIZE, AGAIN, STARTING WITH THAT FACILITIES MANAGEMENT AND OPERATIONS WHERE THE MOST, UH, SAVINGS CAN BE REALIZED AND START WORKING THROUGH THOSE NEGOTIATIONS OF THOSE CONTRACTS LIKE WE DID WITH THE FULL SERVICE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. 
          GREAT. 
          UH, A QUESTION ON THIS SLIDE. 
          UH, UH, I GOT, I GOT, I NEED 18 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          IT SAYS 14 MILLION TO 23 MILLION, AND YOU'VE GOT PUBLIC WORKS IN THERE TOO. 
          SO ARE WE STILL EXPECTING 18 MILLION THAT WE CAN SAVE FROM THE GENERAL FUND ON THIS CONTRACT, ON THIS SPENDING CONTRACT AND NON-CONTRACT SPENDING? OR IS THAT GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT? IT'S OKAY. 
          SO IS THAT GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE THAN WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT? I THINK IT MIGHT BE TOO, TOO EARLY TO TELL. 
          I THINK IT IS STILL PART OF THE RANGE. 
          UM, BUT RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS A YEARLY ESTIMATE. 
          UM, SO IT COULD BE THAT, AND LIKE JED MENTIONED, WE'RE, WE'RE TARGETING AND LOOKING AT WHICH ONES WILL HAVE THE MOST SAVINGS, PARTICULARLY FOCUSING ON THE GENERAL FUND FIRST. 
          UM, THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR OF GOING THROUGH THIS. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE WHEN WE BUDGETED, YOU KNOW, ERNST AND YOUNG GAVE A RANGE OF, YOU COULD HAVE BETWEEN FIVE AND 15% SAVINGS. 
          WE BUDGET ON THE MORE CONSERVATIVE SIDE OF THAT. 
          UM, SO WE'RE STILL CERTAINLY AIMING FOR THAT TARGET. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS, BUT I THINK THAT THAT IS TBD. 
          OKAY. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, VICE MAYOR PRO OUT, WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, THEY ANSWERED IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN ARE THERE UPDATES ON ADDITIONAL SAVINGS FROM THE, UM, CONSOLIDATIONS AND THE, AND ANY, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK I DEPARTMENT REDUCTION, THE DEPARTMENT REDUCTION KIND OF SAVINGS THAT WERE, ARE WE KIND OF DONE WITH THAT WITH EY AND NOW EY IS JUST DOING THE CONTRACT SPEND ANALYSIS? OR ARE WE STILL USING EY RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAKE FURTHER REDUCTIONS AND, AND THROUGH THE REORGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE? I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, THROUGH THE REORGS, A LOT OF THOSE SAVINGS ARE LARGELY ALREADY BAKED INTO THE, THE BUDGET, THE WAY THAT WAS ADOPTED. 
          UM, THERE ARE GOING TO BE STILL SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR VACANCY SAVINGS, UM, CERTAINLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THAT. 
          UM, KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE ARE, THERE ARE CRITICAL POSITIONS THAT, UH, WE LOST THROUGH THE V ME MEPO, UM, PROCESS, THOSE INDIVIDUALS. 
          SO LOOKING AT THOSE CRITICAL AREAS, REFILLING, WE STILL WILL HAVE VACANCY SAVINGS. 
          ERNST YOUNG IS STILL WORKING ON SOME OTHER AREAS, PARTICULARLY ON THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. 
          SO THEY ARE, UH, WORKSHOPPING WITH PARTICULARLY, UM, SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT, UH, HAVE MORE OF A CITYWIDE IMPACT. 
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AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH EACH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS IN WHAT THEY CALL A TURN THE CURVE EXERCISE. 
          SO, UM, THE EXAMPLE FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS ERN AND YOUNG IS HELPING US LOOK AT, UM, DAYS TO AWARD ON, UM, UH, ITBS MM-HMM . 
          SPECIFICALLY, UH, CERTAIN TYPES OF PROCUREMENT ON REDUCING DOWN THE NUMBER OF DAYS IT TAKES TO DO SOME OF THESE, UM, SOME OF THESE PROCUREMENTS. 
          AND THAT HAS A CITYWIDE IMPACT AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY DEPARTMENT GOES THROUGH, UH, PROCUREMENT PROCESSES. 
          SO ERNST YOUNG IS STILL HELPING WITH, UM, SO SOME OF THOSE KPIS. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THE, BUT THE, THE DEPARTMENT REDUCTIONS KIND OF, AND THE REORG STUFF, THE CONSOLIDATIONS THAT, THAT WAS ALREADY BAKED IN, THAT'S JUST KIND OF BAKED IN THE 18 FOR THE CONTRACT SAVINGS WAS WHAT WAS STILL TO KIND OF BE SEEN? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT WAS PART OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET. 
          NOW, I WILL SAY ON THE REORG PLANS, UM, NOT ALL DEPARTMENTS ARE COMPLETED WITH THEIRS. 
          UM, THEY'RE STILL FORMULATING THEM WORKING WITH HR AND THE ADMINISTRATION, UM, TO GET THOSE FINALIZED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EY, ANY NEWS ON THE TS STUDY, I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THE, ON THE TS STUDY. 
          I'LL HAVE TO CONSULT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          GREAT. 
          COLLEAGUES, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON ERNST AND YOUNG COUNCIL MEMBER MARTINEZ? THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN. 
          UH, I GUESS JUST TO GET A BETTER AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE, RIGHT, UH, THE SPAN DEPARTMENTS, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT TERMS, BUT AT WHAT POINT DO WE THINK WE WOULD EXHAUST ALL OPTIONS ON, ON WHAT THE EY CAN DO FOR US? SO I, I THINK WE'RE JUST BARELY STARTING TO SEE ALL OF THE AVAILABLE OPTIONS. 
          SO WE'RE AT THAT BEGINNING, UH, POINT WHERE WE CAN SEE WHERE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES EXIST. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SPIN RIGHT NOW, AND THIS IS YOUR YEARLY SAVINGS. 
          WHAT OTHER, WHAT OTHER, UM, WHAT ELSE ARE WE GONNA PULL FROM THE EY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SEE, SEE SOME OF THESE SAVINGS? WELL, I THINK THAT THIS, ALTHOUGH WE'RE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THE CATEGORY MANAGEMENT, THIS IS THE, I THINK, THE LARGEST INITIATIVE THAT CAN HAVE THE MOST SAVINGS. 
          UM, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED, WE HAVE $17.5 MILLION BUDGETED FOR SAVINGS IN FISCAL YEAR 26. 
          IT'S GOING TO TAKE US SEVERAL FISCAL YEARS TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE, LIKE ALL OF THESE CONTRACTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT JED MENTIONS, THEY NEED TO BE RENEGOTIATED REBOUGHT TO COUNCIL, UM, TO REALIZE THOSE SAVINGS. 
          AND IT'S GONNA TAKE A FEW YEARS TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THOSE ITEMS CITYWIDE. 
          THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          UH, THE WAY THAT I'D LIKE TO FRAME IT IS THAT THE, THE ERNST AND YOUNG EXERCISE, UM, WAS INTENDED TO BE A SNAPSHOT IN TIME, BUT IT WAS ALSO TO TEACH US HOW TO EMBRACE AS A ORGANIZATION CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. 
          SO I WOULD ARGUE THAT CONTRACTUALLY EY WILL EVENTUALLY END, BUT WHAT THEY'RE TEACHING US IS GONNA CONTINUE SORT OF HOPEFULLY ON FOREVER WITH THE, THE CITY. 
          UM, I THINK WHAT JED ALLUDED TO AND, AND WHAT MELISSA EXPANDED ON IS THAT WE ARE, WE STARTED WITH SPEND BECAUSE IT WAS THE CLEAREST OPPORTUNITY FOR CASH, UH, AT THE CITY TO FREE UP FUNDS AND TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE OUR BUDGET GAP. 
          UM, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT STILL NEED TO OCCUR. 
          AS MELISSA SAID, UM, THE ORGANIZATIONS, NOT ALL, UH, DEPARTMENTS HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR REORG PLAN. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS A A THREE PHASED APPROACH. 
          WE SAID THERE'S A HIRING FREEZE. 
          UM, BUT WE ALSO IDENTIFIED THOSE CRITICAL, UM, THOSE CRITICAL POSITIONS. 
          NINE ONE ONE CALL TAKERS, THREE ONE ONE CALL TAKERS, SOLID WASTE, UH, SIDE LOADERS AND SENIOR SIDE LOADER OPERATORS. 
          THOSE POSITIONS THAT HAVE TO BE HERE AT THE CITY OF HOUSTON TO MAKE SURE THAT IT RUNS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT WAS THEM TO SUBMIT THEIR REORGANIZATION, UH, OF THEIR DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THEY COULDN'T GET THE HIRING FREEZE LIFTED UNTIL THEY SIT, SUBMIT THAT REORG PLAN TO US. 
          UM, AND THE IDEA BEHIND IT WAS, WE NEED YOU TO RESTRUCTURE, WE NEED YOU TO EMBRACE THE SORT OF ONE TO FIVE, ONE TO SEVEN RATIO THAT WE EXPECT OUT OF MANAGERS TO, UH, TO EMPLOYEES DIRECT REPORTS. 
          UM, AND TO BALANCE THAT OUT. 
          WE ARE ALSO DOING PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. 
          WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU RETHINK, IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WERE 606 KPIS ACROSS THE CITY, AND WHAT WE HEARD FROM MOST DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND MOST FRONTLINE EMPLOYEES WAS THAT THIS WAS A BOX CHECKING EXERCISE. 
          THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF USE OUT OF THESE. 
          WELL, THOSE ARE GOING TO IMPACT WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS DO THEMSELVES. 
          THE QUESTION THAT, UH, TURNED THE CURVE ASKS OF EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS IS, WHAT IS VALUABLE TO YOU GETTING THE WORK DONE? WHAT WORK ARE YOU DOING? AND HOW DO WE MEASURE IT, UH, FOR ? HOW DO WE MEASURE IT FOR, UM, THE PURPOSES OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING, UM, THE BEST AND HIGHEST VALUE OF OUR TIME AND THAT WILL IMPACT THE ORGANIZATION? RIGHT? SO WE, WE HAD OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS REORG, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE MORE, WELL, THERE WILL BE MORE TWEAKING MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO I, I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OF HOW MUCH LONGER WITH EY, I WOULD SAY THE ANSWER IS, I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, BUT WE DO EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE 
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A SOLID ANSWER BY PROBABLY MONTH 18. 
          SO WE STARTED THIS LAST JUNE, JULY WAS WHEN WOULD, WHEN DID YOU START CATEGORY MANAGEMENT? JULY. 
          JUST LAST JULY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO JULY. 
          AND I WOULD THINK THAT PROBABLY BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE A REALLY GOOD GRASP, UH, NEXT CALENDAR YEAR, A REALLY GOOD GRASP OF WHAT, WHAT'S THE NEXT THING AND IF WE NEED THEM AT ALL. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND JUST, JUST TO, UH, KIND OF WRAP THIS ONE UP, UM, NOT EVERYBODY HAS TURNED IN THEIR, THEIR DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          UM, WHEN ARE Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL GIVING THEM A DEADLINE, WHEN IS THAT GONNA BE? UM, YEAH. 
          SO IT'S, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, MELISSA IS STILL WORKING ON REORGING, UH, THE DEPARTMENT FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS. 
          MORE IMPORTANTLY, SHE HAD SOME CRITICAL POSITIONS GO MM-HMM . 
          SHE'S TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT PERSON TO PUT IN THAT POSITION. 
          BUT WE APPROVED JED'S REORGS SPECIFICALLY. 
          SO SPD HAS ALREADY GOTTEN THE APPROVAL AND ALREADY DONE THEIR REORG. 
          SO WE'RE ALSO TREATING IT LIKE THAT. 
          SO THERE ARE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T FULLY APPROVED THEIR REORG, BUT WE'RE DOING IT IN, IN BITS AND PIECES. 
          WILL WE BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THESE REORGS PRIOR TO THE NEXT THIS COMING BUDGET? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND, UH, YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE, ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS I THINK WE JUST APPROVED, UH, SOLID WASTES REORG, UM, LIKE TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO. 
          AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MANY DRIVERS HE BELIEVES THAT HE COULD REASONABLY RECEIVE. 
          AND THAT ALSO DIRECTOR HASSAN IS, IS SORT OF RE REVAMPING THE ENTIRE SOLID WASTE PROCESS. 
          WE WENT FROM FOUR QUADRANTS TO TWO HALVES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW DON'T FINISH THERE, , THAT'S DONE WITH THE, THE REORG. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YEAH, I THINK ALL OF US ARE INTERESTED IN THE REORGS. 
          AND I'VE ALSO HEARD FROM EMPLOYEES THAT SOMETIMES JUST THAT, THAT SOMETIMES THE, IT WAS KIND OF DONE BUT NOT BEING FOLLOWED REALLY. 
          SO, UM, IS SOMEBODY MONITORING THAT THESE REORGS ARE, ARE STICKING AND THAT THE WORK THAT EY DID ISN'T, YOU KNOW, JUST OH, VERY MUCH SO. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE TURN THE CURVE PROCESS. 
          THAT'S, WE, WE'D CALL THAT IN THE CONSULTING L LINGO. 
          IT'S CHANGE, TURN THE CURVE, MAN. 
          IT'S TURN THE CURVE CHANGE MANAGEMENT AND UH, AND YEAH, BUT THE, AS FAR AS THE REORG GOES, THIS ISN'T A DIRECTOR SAYING, I'D LIKE FOR THIS TO OCCUR. 
          WE ARE LIKE FOUNDATIONALLY CHANGING THE DEPARTMENT AND IT'S REFLECTED IN HR AND REPORTING STRUCTURES AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT YEAH, TO YOUR POINT EXACTLY, IT'S THE EXPECTATION IS THAT IT STICKS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND AT BUDGET TIME, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE WE'RE ALL GONNA WANNA SEE KIND OF THE REORG YEP. 
          INFORMATION. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UM, WHICH DEPARTMENTS HAVEN'T SUBMITTED REORGS? WE, WE CAN PROVIDE A LIST TO YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. 
          AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA. 
          ITEM FIVE, QUARTERLY OVERTIME USAGE UPDATE. 
          AND WE ARE GOING TO BE, WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR, MELISSA DEBOWSKI PLUS THE POLICE CHIEF. 
          NO, DIAZ, I THINK THE FIRE CHIEF. 
          IS HE HERE TOO? YEAH, HE'S HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          FIRE CHIEF TOM MUNOZ AND SOLID WASTE DIRECTOR, LARRY HASSON. 
          SO FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          OKAY, GOOD MORNING. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          AND I'M GONNA GO OVER, IN THIS PRESENTATION, I'M GONNA GO OVER SOME OF THE FINANCIALS AND I'M GONNA ASK EACH OF THE CHIEFS AND DIRECTOR HASSON TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE OPERATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A TAG TEAM EFFORT TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON, UM, HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          FIRST, UM, GIVE A SNAPSHOT OF THE CLASSIFIED OVERTIME FOR THE GENERAL FUND, AS WELL AS TAKE A LOOK AT THE CADETS VERSUS THE ATTRITION FOR THE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, THIS GIVES YOU A THREE YEAR LOOK. 
          UM, STARTING WITH FISCAL YEAR 24, UH, FISCAL YEAR 25 IS IN THE MIDDLE. 
          AND FISCAL, FISCAL YEAR 26. 
          ON THE RIGHT SIDE, UH, ON THE FIRST LINE FOR EACH YEAR, YOU SEE WHAT THE, UM, FINAL BUDGET FOR OVERTIME FOR EACH OF THOSE YEARS WAS, UH, THE NEXT LINE YOU SEE WHAT THE ACTUALS FOR THAT YEAR WAS, AND THEN THE VARIANCE. 
          UM, SO IF WE COULD, UH, MAYBE TALK THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 24 FIRST, THE BUDGET FOR OVERTIME, UH, WAS ABOUT $20 MILLION, $19.9 MILLION FOR OVERTIME. 
          IN FISCAL YEAR 24, THE ACTUALS WERE AROUND $38.9 MILLION. 
          I KNOW WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AROUND THE TIME OF THE BUDGET, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS THAT THERE ARE, UM, SAVINGS IN OTHER AREAS OF THE DEPARTMENT. 
          THERE COULD BE BASE PAY SAVINGS, OTHER PERSONNEL, SAVINGS, SAVINGS IN OTHER AREAS, NOT EVEN RELATED TO PERSONNEL THAT WILL OFFSET THE OVERAGE THAT WE HAVE IN OVERTIME FOR THE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO FOCUSING ON FISCAL YEAR 24, YOU SAW WE WERE ABOUT $18.9 MILLION OVER BUDGET ON THE OVERTIME LINE ITEM ITSELF. 
          BUT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT, UM, THERE WAS $19 MILLION OF SAVINGS IN OTHER LINE ITEMS AND AREAS. 
          SO THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL BOTTOM LINE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, WE ENDED WITH ABOUT $81,000 
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REMAINING AVAILABLE. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS BASED ON A HEADCOUNT OF CLASSIFIED OFFICERS OF, UH, 5,005 OFFICERS. 
          SO THEN MOVING TO FISCAL YEAR 25, YOU SAW A SIMILAR TREND. 
          THE BUDGET FOR OVERTIME WAS 33 MILLION. 
          THE ACTUALS CAME IN AT 39 MILLION, WHICH WAS ABOUT 6 MILLION OVER ON THAT LINE ITEM. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE HAD SAVINGS IN OTHER AREAS TOTALING 16 MILLION. 
          SO FOR THE BOTTOM LINE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, WE ACTUALLY HAD ABOUT $9.8 MILLION EXCESS AVAILABLE. 
          AND YOU SAW THE HEADCOUNT WENT UP, UM, SLIGHTLY IN THAT YEAR FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. 
          WE'RE ONLY ONE QUARTER THROUGH THE YEAR. 
          UM, THE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR IS $14.8 MILLION. 
          THE ACTUALS HAVE BEEN ABOUT 6 MILLION SO FAR. 
          SO WE HAVE ABOUT 8 MILLION REMAINING FOR THE YEAR. 
          AND SO FAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S TO BE DETERMINED HOW MUCH WE'LL HAVE TO OFFSET THE SAVINGS. 
          UM, I KNOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THREE YEARS, IT SEEMS WILDLY VARIANT WHAT THE AMOUNTS ARE FOR OVERTIME. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CHIEF IS GONNA, UM, HELP TALK ABOUT THAT, PARTICULARLY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          OVERTIME IS REALLY DRIVEN BY, UM, UNFORESEEN EVENTS, DISASTERS, PROTESTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UM, THAT ARE REALLY VERY OPERATIONAL IN NATURE, UM, AND ARE A LITTLE BIT, UM, DIFFICULT TO PREDICT. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, THAT'S THE REASON THAT YOU SEE SUCH A LARGE VARIANCE HERE. 
          UM, SO I THINK WE WILL, UH, I DON'T KNOW, CHIEF IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT ON THIS SIDE OR YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT IT? UM, SURE. 
          I'LL JUST, I'LL BE BRIEF. 
          UH, WE, WE'VE HAD A FANTASTIC YEAR. 
          WE'VE BEEN SO DISCIPLINED WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE, THAT WE SOW, UH, GRACIOUSLY ACCEPT FROM COUNSEL IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. 
          UH, I, I CAN'T THANK CHIEF COLLEY ENOUGH 'CAUSE WE, HE HAS CREATED A DASHBOARD FOR OVERTIME IN THE OFFICE. 
          IT'S ON MY DESK. 
          SO WHEN I SEE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE TRENDING TOO HIGH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING, IT'S A HOLISTIC APPROACH. 
          SO THE SERGEANT AT WEST SIDE MONITORING TIM SOTO ON EVENING SHIFT IS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF US MANAGING OUR OVERTIME. 
          WE'RE NOT JUST, WE'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
          WE'RE BEING VERY DISCIPLINED WITH THE OVERTIME. 
          IN THE LAST FIVE MONTHS, OUR HOMICIDE TEAM HAS SAVED JUST A LITTLE OVER 500,000 OVERTIME THAN WHAT THEY WERE USED TO BE, WHAT THEY USED TO DO. 
          SO FOR US, IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO TAP IT DOWN BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE CONSUME A LARGE PART OF THE BUDGET AND EVERY MEMBER IN THIS CITY, DEPART IN THE CITY IS JUST AS VALUABLE IN MY OPINION. 
          SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DISCIPLINED WITH THE RESOURCES THAT ARE GIVEN TO US SO THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, CAN GET THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST AS VITAL TO THE OVERALL SUCCESS OF THE CITY. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRENDING GOOD. 
          OUR ACADEMIES ARE DOING WELL. 
          WE HAVE OVER 200 YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE, OFF IN, IN THE CADET CLASSES NOW. 
          UH, AND WE HAVE ABOUT A SIX OR SEVEN WEEK BACKLOG IN POLYGRAPHS. 
          SO THAT'LL TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO COME INTO THE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND IT'S PRETTY, IT'S BEEN A, A VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS FOR US. 
          GREAT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN, I THINK IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THE POLICE OVERTIME, NOW'S THE TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, CHIEF, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          AND I APPRECIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE EFFORT THAT THE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE IS PUTTING INTO KEEPING THOSE OVERTIME NUMBERS LOW. 
          UM, I WAS JUST HAVING A SIDE CONVERSATION. 
          THESE ARE THE NUMBERS TO DATE, BUT WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE FULL PICTURE FOR THE YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAVE, UM, ADDITIONAL MAJOR EVENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING, UH, THAT OVERTIME CAN CONTINUE TO INCREASE, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          THAT IS CORRECT, YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UH, DO YOU RECALL, YOU MAY NOT KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, THERE'S, DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND WE ON COUNCIL KNOW THIS, BUT THE, THE PUBLIC MAY NOT KNOW THERE'S WHAT THE DEPARTMENT SUBMITS THEIR ESTIMATE TO BE, TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET VERSUS WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION COMES BACK WITH AND SAYS, NO, THIS IS WHAT THE BUDGET IS GONNA BE. 
          DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT? WAS THAT THE QUESTION? SO AT THE TIME OF THE BUDGET, UM, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT GIVES EACH DEPARTMENT A BUDGET TARGET, AN OVERALL BUDGET TARGET, WHICH IS BASED ON THEIR PREVIOUS YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          AND THEN BUILDS OFF OF THAT FOR NEW INITIATIVES, CONTRACTUAL INCREASES, UM, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE KNOWN TO US, UH, IN WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, EACH DEPARTMENT, AND THIS IS NOT JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR POLICE, IT'S FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, SUBMIT THEIR LINE ITEM BUDGET TO FINANCE FOR US TO REVIEW. 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP I GUESS, BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT FINANCE AND THE ADMINISTRATION, UM, AS FAR AS THEIR TOTAL BUDGET. 
          UM, BUT THERE ARE INITIAL REQUESTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED, RIGHT? LIKE 
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FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WE'LL USE DART AS ONE. 
          THEY SAY, HEY, WE NEED THIS AMOUNT FOR DART MM-HMM . 
          THOSE ARE SUBMITTED TO THE ADMINISTRATION. 
          SURE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU ALSO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE ADOPTED BUDGET IS AND THEN WHAT THE FINAL BUDGET FOR A YEAR IS. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, I'M LOOKING IN FISCAL YEAR, UM, 25 FOR EXAMPLE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE USED QUITE A LOT OF OVERTIME IN FISCAL YEAR 25. 
          A LOT OF THAT WAS, UM, BASED ON DISASTERS. 
          WE HAD HURRICANE BARREL, WE HAD ENZO. 
          SO THOSE ARE AREAS WHERE THE DEPARTMENT WILL REQUEST SUPPLEMENTAL OVERTIME ALLOCATIONS. 
          UM, THEY DO IT FOR DISASTERS, THEY DO IT FOR, UM, PROTESTS, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, UNPLANNED AND UNPREDICTABLE. 
          IT HAPPENING MORE AND MORE FREQUENTLY. 
          YES. 
          HAPPENING FREQUENTLY. 
          UM, VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION INITIATIVE, WE GAVE ADDITIONAL OVERTIME FOR THE, UH, THE 260,000 CASE. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA CALL IT FOR THE CASE, FOR THE CASE INVESTIGATIONS, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO CERTAINLY REQUESTS HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WHERE WE WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT ON, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY'RE TRENDING, WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, UM, UNFORESEEN EVENTS THAT COME UP. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          UM, SO JUST AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS BECAUSE IT IS GOOD TO BE CHECKING IN AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          CHIEF, SINCE I HAVE YOU, UM, I KNOW THERE HAD BEEN SOME INFORMATION FLOATING AROUND, ACCURATE OR NOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT DART FUNDING. 
          UM, WHERE ARE WE WITH OUR, OUR DART FUNDING? IS IT STILL FUNDED? ARE WE ABOUT TO RUN OUT OF FUNDS AND WHAT IS THE NEED THERE? UH, WE HAVE SHIFTED FROM IT TO BE MORE DISCIPLINED INTERNALLY. 
          SO WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T ASKED FOR THE DART FUNDING YET. 
          'CAUSE IT'S NOT OUT THERE TO HAVE. 
          SO WE'RE JUST BEING MORE DISCIPLINED WITH THE STAFFING AND NOT CHANGING OUR, UM, OUR MODEL. 
          AN EXAMPLE IS ALL THAT MONEY WAS USED, SO NOW THE TEAM THAT ACTUALLY WORKS IN THE DART PROGRAM, THEIR DAYS OFF HAVE CHANGED. 
          SO THEY CAN BE MORE DISCIPLINED WITH HOW WE USE THE RESOURCES. 
          SO IT REALLY HASN'T AFFECTED US IN ANY WAY. 
          WE'RE STILL RESPONDING, OF COURSE, THE CLINICIANS AND ALL THAT STUFF, THE FUNDING IS NOT THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE, WE DON'T GET IT. 
          SO WE'RE MANAGING INTERNALLY WITH THAT PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL PROVIDE A SERVICE. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY, I'M, I'M NOT REALLY FOLLOWING BECAUSE DART IS A SPECIFIED UNIT, RIGHT. 
          WITH SPECIFIED CLINICIANS AND SPECIFIED FUNDING. 
          WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THERE'S NO MORE FUNDING THERE. 
          THERE'S AT THIS MOMENT THERE IS NOT. 
          SO HOW IS DART OPERATING, UH, LEANER WITH MORE RESPONSIVE EMPLOYEES WHERE THEY'RE NOT COMING IN ON A DAY OFF TO DO REPORTS THAT DRAGS MONEY FROM THE DART PROGRAM? RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE JUST BEING MORE DISCIPLINED WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE DO HAVE. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S A SPECIFIC JOB, BUT THOSE PEOPLE ARE ACT, WE'RE FLEXING THEIR SCHEDULE. 
          SO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL BEING RESPONSIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IF, AGAIN, I KNOW THIS ISN'T TANGENTIAL, BUT OVER A THIRD OF HOMICIDES IN THE REGION RIGHT NOW ARE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RELATED. 
          AND WE HAVE NOT HEARD THIS INFORMATION BEFORE. 
          WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD IS THERE IS STILL FUNDING, UH, THAT WE'RE DIVIDING TIME BETWEEN OFFICERS. 
          THAT'S A HUGE CONCERN. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S SO IN THE PAPER TODAY ABOUT IT TOO, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          UM, I'LL PUT YOU BACK IN IF YOU NEED IT. 
          SO ILL BE MORE SPECIFIC OFFLINE. 
          I'LL GET YOU THE INFORMATION AND THE DATA THAT YOU NEED SO YOU CAN HAVE IT, SO YOU CAN SEE IT FOR YOURSELF ON WHAT WE ARE DOING INTERNALLY TO ADJUST SO WE DON'T, UH, HAVE THOSE LOSS OF SERVICES. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE ALL OF COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ALSO BEING AWARE OF IT. 
          SURE. 
          VICE MAYOR PRO TEPEC, THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU CHIEF AND DIRECTOR. 
          UM, FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING TO CURB THE SPENDING. 
          UM, IS THERE ANY OVERTIME WORK THAT WAS DONE LAST FISCAL YEAR THAT'S NOT BEING DONE THIS FISCAL YEAR? BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO SPEND AS MUCH THAT YOU, YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET AS JUST FAR AS FUNDING THOSE ITEMS MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST? WELL, WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET EVERY DAY. 
          IT'S, UH, IT'S A TWO TWICE A WEEK DISCUSSION INTERNALLY. 
          SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING FACTUAL AND THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING THE RIGHT RESOURCE AND MOVING RESOURCES, UH, FLEXING SCHEDULES. 
          UH, AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE DOWNTOWN ISSUES THAT HAVE SPUN UP FOR A LITTLE WHILE. 
          SO WE'RE HAVING TO MOVE STAFFING TO AVOID HAVING A GIANT OVERTIME BILL JUST TO TAKE CARE OF DOWNTOWN. 
          SO IF WE HAVE TO FLEX, UH, PERSONNEL FROM CLEAR LAKE OR KINGWOOD OR CENTRAL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS GIANT, UH, EXPENDITURE BECAUSE OF THE TIME IT TAKES, AS, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER, IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT, UH, FOR, FOR THE, THE, THE SCOOTERS AND ALL THE DOWNTOWN THINGS THAT HAPPEN FOR US. 
          SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY SHUFFLING, TRYING TO ADJUST SCHEDULES, HAVING PEOPLE COME IN ON DIFFERENT SHIFTS TO TARGET THE TIMES THAT IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING. 
          AND THE TEAM HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE RIGHT. 
          TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE, WE, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING. 
          UH, BUT WE 
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HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT INTERNALLY WE ARE BEING SPECIFIC WITH OUR RESOURCES AND NOT JUST COMING BACK EVERY, EVERY, EVERY WEEK TO GET OVERTIME. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS, CHANGE SCHEDULES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UH, BEING THE VERY BEST THAT WE CAN BE WITH THE TREASURER, WITH THE RESOURCES THAT THE COMMUNITY GIVES US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE, UM, OVERTIME BUDGET, DOES THIS INCLUDE COUNCIL DISTRICT SERVICE FUNDS AS WELL? WELL, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY BEEN ASKING FOR IT AS MUCH. 
          OUR GOAL IS TO MANAGE INTERNALLY THE VERY BEST WE CAN. 
          SO COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN USE THEIR RESOURCES IN, IN, IN PROJECTS THAT THEY NEED IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THE OVERTIME IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UH, AND WE, THAT'S THE LAST RESORT, RIGHT? SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN INTERNALLY TO ALLEVIATE THAT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, UH, KEEP MAKING THAT ASK. 
          IT IS, BUT IS THAT, IS THAT INCORPORATED IN THE NUMBER MELISSA? OKAY. 
          YES. 
          COULD YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? SO THIS SLIDE'S GONNA GIVE YOU THE MONTHLY BREAKDOWN. 
          UM, AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, 25 IS IN THE BLUE LINE AND THE FISCAL YEAR 26 IS IN THE ORANGE LINE. 
          AND OF COURSE WE'RE ONLY ONE QUARTER INTO IT, RIGHT? BUT THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE WITH, UM, HURRICANE BARREL IN JULY. 
          YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OVERTIME IS BASED ON SOME OF THESE SPECIAL EVENTS, UNPLANNED WEATHER EMERGENCIES, THINGS LIKE THIS. 
          AND YOU ALSO SEE THAT LARGE, UM, SPIKE IN FISCAL YEAR 25 FEBRUARY, THAT WAS THE WINTER STORM ENZO. 
          UM, SO AS YOU SEE SO FAR, YEAR TO DATE, WE'RE TRENDING WELL BELOW ON DOLLARS USED THAN WE DID IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          AGAIN, SUBJECT TO CHANGE BASED ON UNFORESEEN EVENTS AND, AND THINGS THAT POP UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MARTINEZ. 
          THANK YOU CHAIRWOMAN. 
          UH, AND IT WAS, I HAD TWO QUESTIONS. 
          ONE OF 'EM WAS IN, IN ALIGNMENT WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER P'S QUESTION AS FAR AS OVERTIME. 
          UM, SO THERE'S A HUGE DOWNWARD TREND AND IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL ARE FLEXING OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT WHEREVER IT'S NEEDED. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S SOME, YOU MENTIONED ONE THAT WAS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, LIKE 500,000, AND NOW IT'S A LOT LOWER. 
          LIKE ARE Y'ALL FINDING, UM, WHERE, WHERE IT WAS NOT JUST, UM, MAJOR EVENTS OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A, A SPIKE IN A CERTAIN SPECIFIC, UH, ACTIVITY THAT YOU'ALL BEEN ABLE TO CURB SOME OF THE OVERTIME THAT THAT'S OUR GOAL COUNCIL MEMBER ALL THE TIME. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT INTERNALLY, THAT THE OVERTIME IS A MUST. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE IT AND NOT JUST GETTING PEOPLE USED TO WORKING OVERTIME ALL THE TIME. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE IT, UH, AGAIN, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ENORMOUS BUDGET. 
          SO INTERNALLY, THE COMMAND STAFF, IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CAPTAIN AND THAT THE OFFICER'S NOT WRECKING CARS, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE POLICING ON TIME, NOT TRYING TO ARREST SOMEBODY IN THE NINTH HOUR JUST TO GET THE OVERTIME ESSENTIALLY. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY TRACKING IT. 
          SO WHEN WE SEE AN OFFICER ON OUR DASHBOARD THAT'S TRENDING UP, THEN THE SUPERVISOR, HEY, CAN WE HELP THAT OFFICER RELIEVE SOME OF THAT TIME? 'CAUSE IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT THAT THEY TAKE THEIR TIME OFF YEAH. 
          THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING OVERWORKED. 
          SO FOR ME IT'S, IT'S EVERY DAY IT'S, UM, UH, GRINDING IT OUT WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE VALUE THAT THEY HAVE, BUT ALSO HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US AS A, AS AN INSTITUTION TO RUN IT LIKE A BUSINESS AND NOT JUST SAY IT, BUT IT HAS TO BE FUNCTIONAL SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD IN A POSITIVE WAY. 
          SO I, I APPRECIATE, UH, FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR ALL THE WORK Y'ALL DO, UH, DAY IN, DAY OUT, UH, CHIEF. 
          BUT I THINK THIS, THIS SPECIFIC STATEMENT THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, IT'S ALSO APPRECIATED BECAUSE, UH, WE ALL KNOW THAT WHEN WE GO BACK INTO COMMUNITY, WE KNOW THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE OF OUR HIGHEST YES SIR. 
          YOU KNOW, EXPENDITURES. 
          AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE CAN RELATE SOME OF THIS CONVERSATION BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. 
          UH, THE OTHER ONE WAS ON THE SAVINGS OFFSET. 
          IT SHOWS THAT 24 IS ABOUT 19 MILLION AND ON 25 60 MILLION MM-HMM . 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR. 
          BUT CAN YOU BREAK DOWN A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT, WHAT THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A NORMAL OFF, UH, SAVINGS OFFSET. 
          UH, CAN YOU BREAK DOWN A LITTLE BIT OF MAYBE HIGH LEVEL MM-HMM . 
          OF WHAT THAT OFFSET IS? SURE. 
          I THINK, UH, IN FISCAL YEAR 24 AND 25, MOST OF THE SAVINGS WAS, UH, DUE TO CLASSIFIED PERSONNEL SAVINGS AND BASE PAY, SPECIAL PAYS, THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE, UM, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T HAVE AS FULL OF CADET CLASSES AS WE WOULD HAVE WANTED. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE SAVINGS IS. 
          THERE IS SOME SMALL SAVINGS IN PERSONNEL SERVICES, NON-CAPITAL, BUT THE BULK OF IT IS GONNA BE IN, UH, CLASSIFIED OTHER PERSONNEL AREAS NON OVERTIME. 
          AND I THINK THAT GETS US TO, UM, THE SLIDE SIX, UH, THAT SHOWS THE, UM, THE CADET GRADUATES VERSUS THE ATTRITION FOR THE DEPARTMENT OVER TIME. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S OUR BIG FOCUS WITH THE CONTRACT AND, UH, WITH THE NEW CONTRACT IN PLACE, UM, YOU KNOW, INCREASING WITH THE RECRUITMENT AND THE RETENTION HOPEFULLY WILL ALLOW US TO, UM, YOU KNOW, REALIZE SOME SAVINGS ON OVERTIME AND MAYBE YOU'RE 
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SPENDING MORE ON BASE PAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THAT'S PART OF THE RECRUITMENT, THE RETENTION AND THE BUILDING OF THE, OF THE WORKFORCE. 
          SO CHIEF, I'LL LET YOU EXPAND ON THAT AGAIN. 
          I MEAN, IT'S BEEN NEEDED, IT'S BEEN NEEDED FOR A LONG TIME. 
          UH, WE'RE AT 50, JUST A LITTLE OVER 5,300 EMPLOYEES AND IT HADN'T HAPPENED IN A LONG TIME. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE CADETS IN CLASS, THE, THE DELAYS FOR, FOR THE POLYGRAPHS. 
          SO WE'RE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT WAY BECAUSE WE NEED RESOURCES. 
          EVERY DISTRICT, EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT NEEDS POLICE OFFICERS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, UH, WE JUST CAN'T KEEP BURNING OUR KIDS INTO THE GROUND WORKING OVER AND OVER AND OVER WITHOUT HAVING SOME RELIEF IN SIGHT. 
          UH, EVERY DETECTIVE IS WORKING 60 OR 70, SOMETIMES OVER A HUNDRED CASES IN RISE. 
          IT IS, IT, IT IS A BIG ASK FOR A SMALL DEPARTMENT TO MANAGE THIS INCREDIBLY LARGE CITY, UH, AT, AT EVERY ASPECT. 
          THE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE WANT TRAFFIC. 
          WE, WE GET COMPLAINTS ON THE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE A TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT 'CAUSE THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE CALL THAT WE GET. 
          BUT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A TEAM, UH, LARGE ENOUGH, WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CREATIVE INTERNALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING, UH, THE, THE MOTORCYCLES AND, AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON AN EVENING SHIFT ONTO THE ROADWAYS WHERE PEOPLE SEE IT. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINTS THAT I GET IS THE MOBILITY AND THEN THE DANGEROUS DRIVING. 
          SO WE'VE PARTNERED WITH OTHER AGENCIES TO KIND OF WORK AROUND AND, AND IT'S LOWERED A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC CRASHES AND SOME OF THE, UH, RATE, ROAD RAGE SHOOTINGS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TRACK. 
          I, I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION. 
          UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MARTINEZ, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU WERE ABLE TO, AND I THANK YOU MELISSA, FOR PUTTING THAT, THAT OFFSET IN THERE. 
          IT REALLY HELPS THE OFFSET IN SAVINGS TO, TO TACKLE THE LAST TWO YEARS. 
          THIS YEAR WE ARE GONNA HAVE HIGHER BASE PAY. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE AS BIG OF SAVINGS MM-HMM . 
          SO WE'RE GONNA NEED THE SAVINGS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON IN OVERTIME. 
          A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          AND, AND SO REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING ON TO, TO CURB THAT. 
          AND I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE, I'M SORRY, EARLIER WE WERE JOINED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIE DAVIS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLICKINGER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE, UH, PRESENTATION CHIEF. 
          UM, GOOD TO SEE THE OVERTIME NUMBERS DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE TRAINING ABOUT $2 MILLION A MONTH VERSUS ABOUT THREE, THREE AND A HALF MILLION PREVIOUS YEARS. 
          SO THAT'S GREAT. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY EXTERNAL EVENTS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 
          HOPEFULLY WE CAN NOT HAVE A LOT OF THOSE. 
          UM, SPEAKING OF EXTERNAL EVENTS, SO THE, UH, RECENT, UH, NO KINGS PROTEST HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH OVERTIME WE SPEND ON THAT? THOMAS? ABOUT HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          A HUNDRED THOUSAND PER EVENT. 
          A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          RIGHT. 
          PER EVENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEY HAD MULTIPLE LOCATIONS. 
          DOES THAT INCLUDE ALL THE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS? WE, WE TRACK ABOUT 400 PROTESTS ANNUALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UH, AND WE, WHEN WE CAN, WE TRY TO FLEX, UH, MOVE STAFFING AROUND TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE. 
          THAT NOT EVERYBODY ON THE GROUND IS ON OVERTIME. 
          RIGHT. 
          STAFFING CHANGES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA, PARDON ME, THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. 
          SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY DISCIPLINED AND, AND ANTICIPATE LONG TERM THAT WE MAY HAVE MORE PROTESTS DOWN, UH, DOWN THE, IN THE YEAR. 
          SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF, BUT EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT ON OVERTIME, YOU'RE DRAWING A RESOURCE FROM ANOTHER ACTIVITY THEY COULD BE DOING. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE, WE, WE BRING POLICE OFFICERS FROM WEST SIDE NORTHWEST, EVERYBODY HAS TO, UH, COME IN AND GO TO WORK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A, A LOT OF, I CALL 'EM GUESTS THAT COME, SOMETIMES IT'S 15,000, SOMETIMES IT'S 7,000 GUESTS. 
          BUT WE WANT THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN HERE AND, AND DISCUSS AND, AND EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS AND KNOW THAT THEY'RE SAFE, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          'CAUSE WE ROUTINELY WALK AROUND THEM. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A VERY, UH, HEAVY POLICE FOOTPRINT WITH THEM. 
          WE DON'T TRY TO MILITARIZE IT. 
          UH, WE, WE WERE TRYING TO ENGAGE WITH THEM AND THEY'VE BEEN SO COOPERATIVE, UM, IN EVERY ASPECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER MARTINEZ'S POINT, CERTAINLY MY CONSTITUENTS, PUBLIC SAFETY IS A HUGE THING. 
          SO I THINK WE ALMOST HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS AT THE SAME TIME. 
          UM, ONE OF 'EM WOULD BE LIKE CRIME RATES AND OVER TIME IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACH OTHER. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OVERTIME'S LOOKING GOOD, THE CRIME RATE REPORTS HAVE LOOKED VERY GOOD FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          SO I THINK IT'S REALLY NICE THAT BOTH THOSE THINGS HAVE KIND OF MOVED IN A GOOD DIRECTION AT THE SAME TIME. 
          I MEAN, IT DOESN'T DO US ANY GOOD TO REDUCE OVERTIME IF CRIME'S INCREASING COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          I JOKED THAT THE KIDS ARE DOING SO GOOD IN SPITE OF ME. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO , UH, THEY'RE BEING RESPONSIVE. 
          THEY UNDERSTAND HOW VALUABLE THEY ARE TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND THEY ARE MEETING THE CHALLENGES AND, AND, AND TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS. 
          UH, AND IT'S JUST ALL OVER. 
          IT'S, IT'S THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE OTHER AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A, UM, UH, BIG PICTURE THINKING WITH THE CONSTABLES, WITH OUR, WITH OUR SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES 
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THAT WE'RE SHARING RESOURCES WITH, WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN DO IT COLLECTIVELY AND NOT BE SO SILOED BECAUSE IT TAKES EVERY ONE OF US IN EVERY COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT PUBLIC SEX. 
          'CAUSE IF IT'S, IF OUR CRIME IS TRENDING DOWN THE CITY OF HOUSTON, SO IT IS SAME THING IN TOMBALL, SAME THING IN, IN, IN JERSEY VILLAGE, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          SO FOR US, IT'S, UH, WE'RE THE BIG UMBRELLA, LIKE TO CALL US OUR, OUR UMBRELLA. 
          AND THE INTERACTION REALLY HELPS US, UH, MAKE THE COMMUNITY BETTER AND SAFER. 
          THAT'S OUR GOAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I SAID THEY BOTH LOOK GOOD, SO THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER RAMIREZ. 
          THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SLIDE NUMBER THREE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. 
          UH, THERE'S AN ASTERISK REPRESENTING THAT THESE, UH, THESE ARE ALL, I GUESS, QUARTERLY FIGURES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YES. 
          SO THE ACTUAL IS 6.4 MILLION, UM, THAT WE'VE SPENT ON OVERTIME. 
          UM, WE BUDGETED FOR THIS QUARTER THAT'S PASSED 14.7 MILLION. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? SO, SORRY. 
          SO THE ACTUALS ARE THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER. 
          UM, THE BUDGET IS FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR SO FAR. 
          SO YOU WILL SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY WILL TREND OVER THE LINE ITEM BUDGET FOR THE OVERTIME, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'LL GET TO THE SAVINGS OFFSET FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. 
          GOT IT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE SAME FORMAT AND WE'RE GONNA COME BACK ON A QUARTERLY BASIS TO, UH, REFRESH YOU ALL ON THE NUMBERS AT EVERY QUARTERLY MOFA. 
          GOT IT. 
          SO THE, THE BUDGET, 14.7 MILLION IS FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. 
          BUT, UH, BARRING UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES AND, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE IT, WE, WE MIGHT END UP BELOW, UH, WHERE WE HAVE BEEN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS IN TERMS OF OVERTIME. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT'S OUR GOAL. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE WORK ON WEEKLY. 
          YOU MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY AS AN EXAMPLE, I THINK THAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE SOME OVERTIME SAVINGS IN, IN THE HOMICIDE DIVISION. 
          YES. 
          ARE YOU ABLE TO SHARE SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'VE DONE TO OH, WE'RE JUST, AGAIN, MOVING SCHEDULES. 
          THE, THE DEDICATED TEAMS ON EVENINGS, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT COMING IN AND WORKING DURING THE DAY AND TRYING TO PUT THINGS TOGETHER ON OVERTIME AND NOT DURING THEIR REGULAR SHIFT. 
          IT, IT'S JUST, UH, A SHIFT. 
          AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE. 
          WE HAVE THE VERY BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY, IN MY OPINION, SO THEY UNDERSTAND THE VALUE THAT THEY HAVE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THEY, IT'S, IT'S US MESSAGING TO THEM THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESOURCES BECAUSE THE SALARIES ARE BIGGER BECAUSE OF THE PENSION AND THE OVERTIME WILL, WILL, WILL RUN OUT QUICK. 
          SO FOR US, IT'S THEM UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT AN ENDLESS POT OF CASH THAT EVERY SOLID WASTE PUBLIC WORKS EVERYBODY NEEDS. 
          SO US BEING MORE DISCIPLINED AS AN ORGANIZATION, UH, IT'S A CULTURE SHIFT, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAN AND WE'RE LEAN AND THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RUNNING THE BUSINESS. 
          UH, LIKE IT ACTUALLY IS A BUSINESS BEING SUCCESSFUL FOR, FOR, SO WE CAN, SO WE, I'M LOOKING FOR SUSTAINABILITY, CAN WE CONTINUE IT IN THE NEXT YEAR? RIGHT. 
          THAT THIS, THIS IS OUR GOAL. 
          THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE TRENDING AND IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK FOR IT. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THE HOMICIDE IN INVESTIGATORS IS SOMETIMES THEY DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER HOW LONG. 
          SOMETIMES THEY DON'T. 
          THEY, THEY'LL BE THERE, RIGHT. 
          THEY CAN, IF THEY HAVE A LEAD AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING IT, THEY CAN BE THERE 24 HOURS STRAIGHT. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          THEY CAN. 
          UM, SO I KNOW THAT'S A VERY TRICKY, TRICKY THING TO MANAGE, BUT, UH, ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, YOU KNOW, IT DOES LOOK LIKE, UM, WE'LL END UP WITH, WITH MORE OFFICERS THAN WE STARTED THE FISCAL YEAR WITH. 
          AND SUBSTANTIALLY MORE IF YES. 
          IF THE TREND CONTINUES, RIGHT? LARGER CLASSES, YES. 
          THROUGH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          YES. 
          HOPEFULLY FEWER RETIREMENTS, HOPEFULLY THE NEXT CLASS WILL HAVE 80. 
          AND THE CLASSES IN THE BIGGER CLASSES IN THERE NOW IS IN, IS 70 PLUS. 
          GREAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU CHIEF FOR BEING HERE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          TWO QUESTIONS. 
          I WILL RATHER A STATEMENT THAN A QUESTION. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE RESTRUCTURING, YOU COMMUNICATING HOW INTERNALLY Y'ALL ARE SHIFTING TO FOCUS ON PRIORITIES, SCOOTERS, AFTER HOUR CLUBS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          SO, BUT WITH THAT, I UNDERSTAND THE DEPARTMENT TO OPERATE IN A PREVIOUS FORM PRIOR TO THIS SHIFTING. 
          SO HOW WOULD I, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER BE AWARE OF WHAT THE NEW PROTOCOLS ARE SO WE CAN MAKE BETTER ASK IN TERMS OF, UM, UM, BEING MORE EFFICIENT WITH TIME AT THE, IF IT'S WITH OUR COMMANDERS AND OUR DIVISIONS, OR CALLING DOWN TO TRAVIS TO TALK ABOUT OUR PRIORITIES. 
          WITH THIS SHIFTING, IS THERE ANY GUIDANCE THAT WILL BE SHARED WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SAY LIKE, THIS IS THE NEW STRUCTURE, THIS IS WHAT THE PROCESS IS WITH DART, THIS IS WHAT THIS INFORMATION IS, RIGHT? FIRST, INTERNALLY, IT'S JUST, IT, IT'S A SIMPLE, NOTHING HAS REALLY CHANGED OTHER THAN I'M TRACKING EVERYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF YOU CALL, UM, UH, THE CAPTAIN TWO YEARS AGO SURE. 
          YOU 
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INTERACTED WITH THAT CAPTAIN. 
          SURE. 
          UH, TRAVIS MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN RIGHT. 
          THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING. 
          SO FOR US, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF YOU CALL US, UH, THROUGH OUR LEGISLATIVE, UH, LIAISON, WE TRACK IT SO WE CLOSE THE LOOP SO YOU GET A DEFINITIVE ANSWER AND NOT SOMETHING IN THE FIELD THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY BEARING ON WHAT TRAVIS IS DOING. 
          SO FOR US, IT'S ABOUT COMMUNICATE IN WRITING. 
          WE, WE RESPOND TO YOU WITH, WITH THE, WITH FACTS AND NOT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST, UH, HAPHAZARDLY PUT TOGETHER JUST TO, TO, TO APPEASE YOU IN THAT MOMENT. 
          I WANT YOU TO HAVE THE FACTS BECAUSE YOU ARE THE BEST ADVOCATE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SURE. 
          IN YOUR DISTRICT. 
          SURE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE LIKE US, WHEN WE GO TO THE MEETINGS EVERYWHERE THAT WE GO, USUALLY THE COMPLAINTS AREN'T ON THE POLICE, IT'S EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          SO FOR US, IT'S, UH, BEING FORWARD IN THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL IN YOUR DISTRICT AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE YOU SUCCESSFUL, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE IT. 
          BUT LISTING IT, WRITING IT DOWN, THE EXACT CONCERN, THE EXACT, UH, I, I CALL 'EM STAKEHOLDERS SURE. 
          PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE GUTS TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR OFFICE. 
          SURE. 
          ON THE PHONE CALL IN. 
          IF WE CAN MEET THEM AND WE CAN PERHAPS PROVIDE SOME SORT OF LIKE A, A SERVICE TO THEM THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE, UH, IMPORTANT, IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO THEM TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO COMMUNICATE WHATEVER THE ANSWER MAY BE SO THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT ANSWER. 
          SO THE PROTOCOL HASN'T CHANGED. 
          ITS THE LIAISON. 
          IS THERE? WELL, NOT, I, MY, MAYBE I DIDN'T ASK THIS. 
          THE, UM, CLEARLY IT'S NOT THE, THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE LIAISON, IT IS WITHIN THE INTERNAL STRUCTURE. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF DART HAS SHIFTED, OR OVERTIME HAS SHIFTED, OR, UM, DI DIVISIONS WITHIN, IF THAT PROTOCOL HAS CHANGED, AND I KNOW IT IN A CERTAIN FORM, AND THEN I'M STILL MAKING DEMANDS OR REQUESTS BASED ON THE FORMER, OKAY. 
          HOW ARE WE INFORMED THAT, HEY, THERE'S BEEN A SHIFT. 
          SO NOW THAT AFTER HOURS TEAM OR DRT IS NOT EIGHT TO FIVE, WE'RE SHIFTING THEM FROM 10 TO SEVEN SO THEY CAN FOCUS ON AFTER HOURS, SO I CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE STAKEHOLDERS, THEY SAY, HEY, HPD IS WORKING ON THIS, WE'RE COORDINATED. 
          IT'S THAT TYPE OF INTERNAL INFORMATION. 
          HOW WILL WE KNOW THAT YOU CAN STILL COMMUNICATE WITH THE CAPTAIN IN YOUR DISTRICT? GOT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND, AND HE'S GOING TO, HE HE'LL FUNNEL IT UP TO US TO, SO WE CAN CLOSE THE LOOP. 
          WE DON'T WANT YOU TO NOT HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE ASK THERE IS, RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE HE'S THE CAPTAIN OF WEST SIDE AND THAT, AND HE IS GONNA COMMUNICATE WITH YOU. 
          BUT FOR US, IT'S ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOUR ASK IS SO THAT WE CAN BE THE MOST EFFICIENT AND THE MOST TIMELY TO FIX YOUR ASK. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          THEN NOTHING'S CHANGED. 
          YOU'RE STILL COMMUNICATING WITH THE CAPTAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          I, OKAY. 
          AND, AND WHATEVER THAT IS AND WHAT WHATEVER SHIFT, IF YOU WANT INFORMATION ON DRT ON WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          OH, A LOT OF IT IS HAPPENING ON THE FLY. 
          WE WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO ADJUST EVERY TIME TO DIFFERENT THINGS ALONG THE COMMUNITY, IN THE COMMUNITY, MOVING PEOPLE AROUND. 
          IT'S ALMOST A WEEKLY THING. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL SIT WITH THAT. 
          NUMBER TWO. 
          COUNCIL DISTRICT SERVICE FUNDS. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING Y'ALL DON'T WANT THE MONEY? UH, I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANT IT. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, TELL ME, SO WE, WE, WE ASK, THE ASK HAS BEEN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR A WHILE, SO YOU HAVE BEEN USED TO GIVING IT. 
          SURE. 
          OUR GOAL IS TO, UH, PERHAPS FIND OTHER REVENUE SOURCES. 
          'CAUSE IT'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS COLLECTIVELY, THAT THAT COUNCIL GETS US EASY RIGHT AROUND. 
          AND WE JUST HAVE SO MANY NEEDS. 
          UH, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DISCIPLINED INTERNALLY SO THAT PERHAPS IF WE DON'T HAVE TRENDS IN YOUR AREA, YOU CAN USE IT FOR OTHER THINGS THAT YOU SEE FIT IN YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND THEN HOW ARE, HOW AM I NOTIFIED THAT TRENDS IN MY DISTRICT? I HAVE A HIGH GANG ACTIVITY, LOTS OF A AFTER HOURS WESTERN, YOU JUST CALL, YOU CAN CALL. 
          UH, AND THEN FOR ME TO SAY, OH, WELL, IF THIS IS ALREADY ROLLED UP WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT'S INTERNAL PRIORITY STRUCTURE. 
          RIGHT. 
          Y'ALL CREATED THE AFTER HOURS TASK FORCE AND THOSE THINGS. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF THAT STUFF ROLLS UP, THEN HOW AM I NOTIFIED THAT, OH, THIS IS GONNA BE ADDRESSED AT THE TRAVIS LEVEL. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN I CAN GO DO A SIDEWALK, OR HOW WAS HOPEFUL? HOPEFULLY YOU WON'T GET THE ASK. 
          RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE HISTORICALLY THERE WAS AN ASK. 
          RIGHT. 
          SOMEONE WOULD COME WITH A PRESENTATION. 
          I WOULD, WOULD, I WOULD, WOULD REQUEST IT. 
          OH, YOU WOULD REQUEST FROM US. 
          WHERE DO YOU NEED THE FUNDING? RIGHT? SURE. 
          SO, AND THEN THAT'S STILL GONNA BE UP TO YOU OKAY. 
          TO SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THOSE MONIES. 
          SURE. 
          BUT OUR GOAL MOVING FORWARD IS TO NOT HAVE THAT SO YOU CAN SPEND IT ON THE SIDEWALK. 
          IT'S, IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT. 
          SURE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, PICKING UP THINGS, TRAVELING. 
          SURE. 
          I MEAN, WE ARE VERY, UH, ATTUNED TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EVERY DISTRICT. 
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SURE. 
          UH, TR TRYING, WE'RE WE'RE MOVING RESOURCES JUST TO FIGHT THE, UH, THE ILLEGAL DUMPING. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE FOCUSED ON THAT BECAUSE IT COSTS YOU AND THE COMMUNITY A LOT OF MONEY TO GO BACK AND PICK IT UP. 
          SO WE'RE FOCUSED ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ON THAT? SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'D LOVE TO THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DEI SHAVIS WITH MAYOR PRO TEMS OFFICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DIRECTOR DEBOSKY AND CHIEF DIAZ FURTHER. 
          UM, QUESTION, AND MAYOR PRO TEM KESS IS LISTENING ONLINE, BUT, UM, HAS THIS QUESTION, HOW IS HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLING, UH, PROHIBITED YARD PARKING? UM, WE ARE NOT THAT, THAT, THAT'S GOING, UH, TO, UH, PUBLIC WORKS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT, IT'S, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS RESIDENTS HAVE, UM, WORK TO GET THIS PROGRAM STARTED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, HOW WILL THE ENFORCEMENT WORK? UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE CHANGE. 
          SO HOW IS THAT GONNA BE ENFORCED? UH, RIGHT NOW, DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN DISCUSSION WITH US, BUT FOR US, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ENFORCE. 
          UH, VEHICLES BEING PARKED ON THE STREET, ET CETERA, BECAUSE IT'S A RESOURCE. 
          IT'S A BIG RESOURCE THAT IT TAKES FROM WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, ANSWERING CALLS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING. 
          AND THAT'S HISTORICALLY BEEN A DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO IT. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING WITH 'EM TO SEE WHERE WE CAN HELP IF THERE'S AN ISSUE AT A RESIDENCE THAT HASN'T, UH, COMPLIED, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES I HEAR THAT, THAT IT'S NOT, UH, THAT THEY'RE NOT VERY, UH, THAT THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO GO UP TO A HOUSE AND KNOCK ON THE DOOR. 
          RIGHT. 
          THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH, WITH, UH, WITH THE MAYOR PRO TIM, AND WE'RE STILL UP FOR DISCUSSION, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING IT AT THE MOMENT AND FORCING IT. 
          SO PROHIBIT YARD PARKING IS IN LIMBO. 
          WELL, LIMBO IS A DIFFERENT WORD THAT I WOULD USE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH, WITH THE, THE DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COME UP WITH THE BEST USE OF THE RESOURCE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, CHIEF, THANK YOU. 
          WE'VE HAD YOU ON THE HOT SEAT. 
          THAT'S QUITE SOME TIME. 
          HOT. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT DEPARTMENT, UM, ON OVERTIME THAT WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          KEEP KEEP IT, KEEP IT UP. 
          KEEP IT UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF MUNOZ. 
          WELCOME TO THE HOT SEAT. 
          . 
          IT'S ON FIRE. 
          NO, THAT'S GOOD. 
          MORNING GOING RIGHT, . 
          HOW ARE YOU? GOOD MORNING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT DRIVE OVERTIME. 
          SO, FIRE DEPARTMENT IS OBVIOUSLY OPERATIONALLY VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A MORE STRICT MINIMUM STAFFING, UM, STRUCTURE IN THEIR DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, THEY'RE ALWAYS ON CALL, SO YOU DON'T SEE THE SAME, NECESSARILY THE SAME SPIKES DUE TO DISASTERS, ALTHOUGH YOU DO SEE SOME. 
          UM, SO I'LL HAVE THE CHIEF TO GO OVER SOME OF THE MINIMUM STAFFING STANDARDS, UM, SOME OF THE LEAVE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT THE, UM, FINANCIALS FOR THE, FOR THE YEAR. 
          SO, YES, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO, UH, HFD USES OVERTIME, AS YOU KNOW, TO MAINTAIN ITS, UH, DAILY MINIMUM STAFFING OF FOUR, UH, LEVELS WITH OVERTIME COST FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND. 
          MINIMUM STAFFING LEVELS FOR HFD ARE GOVERNED BY SAFETY PRINCIPLES ESTABLISHED BY THE NFPA NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARDS. 
          UH, THE MINIMUM STAFFING FOR HFD JUST OPERATIONS IS 849 PER DAY. 
          THIS IS A NUMBER OF PERSONAL REQUIREMENT, DAILY, UH, BASIS TO STAFF, FIRE STATIONS, DISPATCH CENTERS, AND SPECIAL OPERATIONS TEAMS. SO RIGHT NOW, AS WE MENTIONED, WE GOT 849 POSITIONS, WHICH CONSIST OF DIFFERENT RANKS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT, GOING ALL THE WAY FROM DEPUTY CHIEFS TO THE COMMUNICATION CAPTAINS, AND OF COURSE YOUR FIREFIGHTERS AND ENGINEERS AND CAPTAINS AND SENIOR CAPTAINS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT ONE. 
          UM, THE OVERTIME OVERVIEW FOR THE FIRST QUARTER, UH, FIRST QUARTER FISCAL YEAR, UH, 2026 H OF D, AVERAGE 817 MEMBERS ASSIGNED TO EACH OF THE FOUR SHIFTS, MANDATES THAT DECREASE THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS ARE ASSIGNED TO A SHIFT AND AVAILABLE TO WORK INCLUDE CITY AND FEDERAL POLICIES. 
          AND TO GIVE YOU NOTE, ANOTHER OVERVIEW THAT IMPACT OUR OVERTIME IS THE PRENATAL, UH, PARENTAL AND INFANT WELLNESS POLICIES, WHICH WAS IMPLEMENTED IN MAY, 2022. 
          AND JUST TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF OVERTIME DUE TO THE PPI IS, UH, 10,211 OR 3.7 MILLION, UH, ANNUALLY. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, 
          [01:10:01]
THE OVERTIME THAT COMES WITH EVERYTHING ELSE IS SICK. 
          UH, THE, UH, THOSE SICK CALLS, VACATIONS, AND SO FORTH. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR OVERTIME, UH, MINIMUM STAFFING, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS. 
          SO IF YOU BREAK IT DOWN, OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THE PIE IS GONNA BE OUR MINIMUM STAFFING REQUIREMENTS. 
          BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER THE TRAINING SPECIAL EVENT SUPPORTS, ADMIN, ARSON, OUR INSPECTORS AS WELL, NATURAL DISASTERS, AND THE OTHER ACTIVITIES. 
          WHEN I SAY OTHER ACTIVITIES, AS, AS COUNCIL MEMBER PECK MENTIONED, UH, AND CAYMAN MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE THOSE UNFORESEEN EVENTS THAT WE SEE ALL THE TIME. 
          THE, THE, THE PROTESTS THAT WE ARE OFTEN CALLED OUT TO ASSIST JUST FOR SAFETY REASONS, MEDICAL SUPPORT AND SO FORTH. 
          AND WORKING WITH ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, HPD, WE SUPPORT THEIR SYSTEMS TOO THAT WE'RE ADDING TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER ON THAT SAFETY PIECE. 
          SO ON SLIDE, ON SLIDE 11, UM, THIS GIVES AN OVERVIEW FOR LOOKING FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, 25 AND 26 YEAR TO DATE, WHERE WE ARE. 
          UM, AS YOU SEE, UH, USING, STARTING WITH FISCAL YEAR 24, THE BUDGET FOR OVERTIME WAS ABOUT $45 MILLION. 
          THE ACTUALS CAME IN AT 62 MILLION. 
          UM, SO YOU SAW THAT WE WERE ABOUT 17 MILLION OVER ON THAT LINE ITEM, BUT SIMILAR AGAIN TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE HAD OTHER SAVINGS AND OTHER, UM, LINE ITEMS. UM, WE CAME DOWN TO A TOTAL BOTTOM LINE, UM, TOTAL AVAILABLE REMAINING OF 7.5 MILLION. 
          A SIMILAR TREND IN FISCAL YEAR 25 AND IN 26 YEAR TO DATE, UM, IT'S, IT'S TBD, HOW MUCH WE'LL HAVE AS FAR AS THE, UM, THE OFFSET GOES. 
          BUT AGAIN, A SIMILAR, UH, SIMILAR STORY TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          I ALSO WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE HEADCOUNT, UM, THAT YOU SEE FOR EACH OF THE FISCAL YEARS. 
          AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE CADETS AND THE ATTRITION, UM, AS WE DID WITH POLICE. 
          BUT YOU CAN SEE THE HEADCOUNT, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY, UH, INCREASING FROM FISCAL YEAR 25 TO 26, UM, BASED ON THOSE CADET CLASSES AND THE RECRUITMENT AND THE RETENTION EFFORTS. 
          SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, YOU SEE AS FAR AS OVERTIME DOLLARS, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH, UM, RIGHT ON WHERE WE WERE YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          AGAIN, AS THE CHIEF SAID, THE MAJORITY OF THE OVERTIME IS DRIVEN BY MINIMUM STAFFING AND NOT NECESSARILY, UM, SOME OF THE UNPLANNED EVENTS, ALTHOUGH THAT DOES CONTRIBUTE. 
          UM, BUT YOU SEE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON TREND WITH THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR ON SLIDE 12. 
          UM, THAT'S THE, THE DOLLARS. 
          AND SLIDE 13 SHOWS YOU THE NUMBER OF HOURS. 
          UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, TRENDING A LITTLE BIT BELOW AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF HOURS, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MONTHS, UH, SO FAR YEAR TO DATE. 
          SO ON SIDE 14, UM, THE CHIEF IS GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE OUTCOMES THAT WE'VE HAD. 
          AS A RESULT. 
          SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE SEEN IS, SO THE RESPONSE TIMES IN FISCAL YEAR 2025, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MEETING THAT QUOTA BASED ON THE 90 PERCENTILE THAT'S SET BY THE NFPA. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT 15 UH, MINUTES, 21 SECONDS. 
          BUT THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE SAME IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR WHERE WE DROPPED DOWN ACTUALLY A VARIANCE OF NEGATIVE 12, WHICH IS 15.09. 
          SO WE'RE DEFINITELY IMPROVING IN THAT AREA. 
          AS FAR AS, UH, OUR FIRE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WE LOOK AT SEPTEMBER, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT 13 POINT, UH, 26, 26 SECONDS, AND THEN 1240. 
          SO WE'RE ALSO SEEING A VERY INCIDENTAL RESPONSE TIME, THEREBY GETTING THERE FASTER TO THE SCENE. 
          WE TALK ON THIS ONE, MELISSA, ON SLIDE 15. 
          UM, ONE OF THE MAJOR INITIATIVES THAT THE CHIEF HAD IS FOCUSING ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS BROWNED OUT. 
          UM, AND THE CHIEF CAN DEFINITELY GET INTO MORE DETAILS, BUT, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT COMPARING FISCAL YEAR 25 TO 26, THERE ARE MORE UNITS, WE CALL THEM BROWNOUTS, BUT MORE UNITS AVAILABLE FOR STAFFING. 
          UMM, MANY, MANY FEWER, UH, UNITS ARE BROWNED OUT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          AND I JUST WANNA EMPHASIZE THIS IS WHEN WE ARRIVED, RIGHT? THIS IS THE DATA. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, JULY WAS JUST HALF. 
          'CAUSE WE, I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAD RIGHT NOW. 
          IT DIDN'T HAVE HISTORICAL DATA THAT WE CAN COMPARE TO. 
          BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT JUST TO GIVE YOU OVERALL PICTURE. 
          LAST QUARTER, THE SAME QUARTER, WE HAD A 304 BROWNOUTS OR UNITS OUTTA SERVICE THE SAME TIME. 
          NOW WE HAVE, WE ONLY HAD 26, SO THAT'S A 91% DIFFERENCE OF HAVING MORE UNITS IN SERVICE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT'S A BIG SUCCESS FOR US WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SAFETY AND WHAT IT MEANS TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND THEN SLIDE 16 UM, GIVES THE HISTORICAL VIEW OF THE, UH, CADET CLASSES COMPARED TO THE ATTRITION FOR THE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, AND THE CHIEF CAN SPEAK TO SOME MORE OF THESE EFFORTS. 
          BUT YOU SEE, UM, JUST LOOKING IN FISCAL YEAR, UM, 25 AND 26, SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE GAINS THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO THE GAINS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF. 
          UM, 
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WE GRADUATED THE LARGEST CLASS IN OUR HISTORY. 
          THE OTHER WE'RE ON TRACK AGAIN TO HAVE THE SAME NUMBERS FROM NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR TO THIS NOVEMBER, WHICH WHAT WE GRADUATED FIRST TO NOW THIS CLASS WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 420 NEW FIREFIGHTERS COMING INTO OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT. 
          SO IF WE LOOK AT THE ATTRITION RATE VERSUS THE GRADUATING CLASSES, IF WE GO BACK ALL THE WAY TO FISCAL YEAR 17, WE'RE GONNA BE POSITIVE 1 91 THAT'S, UH, CREEPING TO GET THAT NUMBER THAT WE WANT THE OPTIMAL NUMBER. 
          GREAT. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES THE SLIDES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN, I'M GONNA TAKE A DEEP BREATH HERE BECAUSE CHIEF ON SLIDE NINE MM-HMM . 
          THEY'LL START TALKING ABOUT PRENATAL WELLNESS. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          PRENATAL WELLNESS IS FOR WOMEN TO TAKE TIME TO GO TO THE DOCTOR. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          FOR PREGNANT WOMEN ONLY. 
          HOW MANY PREGNANT WOMEN SERVE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR HAVE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS? SO THE WAY WE READ IT, COUNCIL MEMBER, IT IS FOR ALSO THE FATHERS THAT ARE, THAT ARE FOR, I'LL GET TO THAT, BUT PRENATAL WELLNESS, I'LL GET THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GOING TO GUESS THERE ARE VERY FEW. 
          CORRECT. 
          THEN YOU GET TO PARENTAL LEAVE. 
          CORRECT. 
          UNDER FMLA FEDERAL LAW, IS IT FEDERALLY REQUIRED THAT EITHER PARENT IS ALLOWED TO TAKE TIME OFF? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS A POLICY REGARDLESS OF PAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED SINCE PRIOR TO FY, UH, I BELIEVE MAY OF 22 WHEN WE PASSED THIS, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE STILL, REGARDLESS OF ALL OF THAT, HAVE BEEN GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND AS IT PERTAINS TO OVERTIME. 
          YES. 
          AND WHAT ARE SOME OTHER EXAMPLES OF THE REASONS, AS YOU SAID, THAT WE GO INTO OVERTIME? SO THE OVERTIME IS THE BIG ONE. 
          SO GOING BACK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US THAT WE SUPPORT THAT AND WE WANT TO SHOW IS THAT THE OVERTIME ENCOMPASSES JUST MORE THAN THE OPERATION SIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          IT IS A BIG LAYER THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. 
          PRENATAL IS ONE, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER UNFORESEENS THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL PEOPLE CALLING IN SICK EMERGENCY VACATIONS. 
          AND THEN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT OVERTIME, SPECIAL EVENTS, NATURAL DISASTERS. 
          CASE IN POINT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THIS JULY, JULY 4TH, WE SENT MEMBERS OVER TO THE HILL COUNTRY. 
          THOSE ARE SOME THINGS, AS I MENTIONED, THE UNFORESEEN INCIDENTS, WHICH, WHICH I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED. 
          OUR WILDLAND DIVISION DOES INCREDIBLE WORK, LEADING HUNDRED PERCENT NATION. 
          AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 
          I JUST, AGAIN, YOU PUT THIS IN HERE, BUT DIDN'T NECESSARILY SAY WE'VE HAD X NUMBER OF INJURIES, WE'VE HAD X NUMBER OF PEOPLE CALLING OUT FOR VACATIONS THAT THEY DID NOT MM-HMM. 
          UH, GIVE APPROPRIATE OR PROPER NOTICE TO THE DEPARTMENT FOR. 
          SO WE HAD TO BACKFILL. 
          THERE ARE ALL THESE OTHER REASONS, OTHER FACTORS WHY WE HAVE OVERTIME, NOT PARENTAL LEAVE. 
          THAT WAS JUST ONE EXAMPLE. 
          WHAT WE USE, AND YOU'RE CORRECT, WE USE THE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT WE COULD SUBMIT. 
          HOW MUCH THE WORKMAN'S COMP, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE, ARE CALLING IN SICK AND THE SICK TIMES KIND OF, WE CAN GET THE AVERAGE, BUT TO DETERMINE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE OUT. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          AND SO I, AGAIN, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, UNDERSTOOD, BECAUSE I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT Y'ALL INTENDED IT THIS WAY, BUT IT SHOWS UP LIKE THIS IS A DRIVING FORCE NO. 
          OF COSTS WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CALL IN OVER, AND OUR MEN AND WOMEN WORK EXTREMELY HARD. 
          CORRECT. 
          THERE ARE UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          YOU COULD HAVE A FAMILY, I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF MY SON WHEN HE'S SICK. 
          SO THERE ARE UNPLANNED, UH, CALLING INS AND BACKFILLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR ON THE RECORD ABOUT THE INTENTION OF THIS AND THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER EXAMPLES. 
          CAN'T GET IN LAYERS. 
          CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND LAYERS. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, THE ONE THING WE SKIRT AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, WHEN WE AGAIN, SUPPORT THE RAISES THAT EVERYONE DESERVES, WE'VE SUPPORTED THE AGREEMENTS, BUT NOT ONCE HAVE WE HAD A MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SHIFT SCHEDULE. 
          AND THAT IS LIKE TABOO FOR US TO TALK ABOUT HERE. 
          BUT CHIEF, I'M GONNA ASK THE QUESTION, DO THE WAY THAT WE DO OUR SHIFTS, ONE, ARE THEY DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR MAJOR CITY CITIES? AND TWO, DOES THE SCHEDULING OF OUR SHIFTS AND HOW WE DO THAT HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR STAFFING AND PERSONNEL THAT GOING INTO THE PEAK STUDY, WHICH WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT DOES IT MODEL THE REST OF THE COUNTRY? YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT THAT, WE HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING THAT. 
          RIGHT? BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE REASON FOR THE FOUR PERSON TEAMS, AS WE CALL ONE IS THE NFP STANDARDS A REQUIREMENT, BUT TWO INCREASES THE SAFETY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE THIRD LARGEST DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTRY AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT. 
          THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT DISCUSSION. 
          I AGREE, COUNCIL MEMBER, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. 
          HOW DO WE LOOK AT THAT? YOU KNOW? AND IT INVOLVES 
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JUST MY OWN DECISION. 
          IT INVOLVES, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE UNION, SEE HOW THAT'S GONNA LOOK AND AS PER UNION CONTRACT, RIGHT? SO IT'S THIS WHOLE INCUMBENCY THING OF WHAT WE DO. 
          WHAT'S THE FORCE GONNA LOOK LIKE WHEN I SEND TWO OR THREE MEMBERS TO A BURNING HOUSE FIRE OR A BURNING WAREHOUSE WHERE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE'S DEFINITELY DIFFICULT TO DO. 
          RIGHT? AND THERE'S ALSO THE CHALLENGES, RIGHT? WE SEND MULTIPLE, SOMETIMES WE SEND A LADDER WHEN WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO SEND A LADDER RIGHT THERE. 
          THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER BAKED IN COSTS. 
          AND I, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THIS CONVERSATION. 
          I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER FACTORS THAT GO INTO THIS THING, A A HUNDRED PERCENT AND A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS THAT AS IF THEIR LARGEST APARTMENT WERE LOOKED AT, RIGHT? YEP. 
          AND I WANNA THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM. 
          LOOK, Y'ALL DO A HELL OF A JOB UNDER REALLY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          WE HAVE SEEN, UM, HORRIFIC FIRES YES. 
          THAT HAVE NOT ONLY INJURED MEN AND WOMEN ON THE FORCE, BUT THEY HAVE HAD TO RESPOND TO TR TRAGIC SITUATIONS, UH, THAT YOU DON'T ALWAYS, YOU WILL NEVER FORGET. 
          SO I WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR THAT. 
          I JUST, AGAIN, WHEN IT COMES TO THE FINANCES, LET'S HAVE THAT REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FINANCES. 
          CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER RAMIREZ. 
          THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU, STARTING WITH SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THIS IS IN THE OVERTIME OVERVIEW. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          UH, THIRD BULLET POINT SAYS MINIMUM STAFFING FOR HFD IS 849 WRITING POSITIONS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT IS MINIMUM, UH, SINCE WE'RE FOLLOWING, UM, GUIDELINES OF THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, WHAT WE REQUIRE TO STAFF OUR APPARATUSES, THAT IS THE, THE NUMBER THAT WE WILL LOOK AT DAILY. 
          SIR, WHAT, WHAT IT TAKES 849, RIGHT? BUT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT 817. 
          BUT WHAT THAT YES, I WAS GONNA GET TO THAT. 
          WHAT THAT DOESN'T COUNT IS THAT OUTTA THAT 817, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE OFF FOR TRAINING. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE OFF. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR PARAMEDICS TAKING, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN IN MORE PEOPLE THAT ALLOWS US TO, NOW WE HAVE DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF PARAMEDICS GOING TO CLASS OR PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO PARAMEDIC CLASS FROM 75 TO 150. 
          SO THAT ACTUALLY COUNTS AS THE, THE, THE PERSONNEL POWER THAT WE NEED. 
          BUT ON PAPER IT LOOKS LIKE, YEAH, WE GOT 817. 
          SO THAT NUMBER'S REDUCTED. 
          AND THEN YOU DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS COUNCIL MEMBER CAME AND MENTIONED ALL THE OTHER LAYERS, RIGHT. 
          THAT TAKE INTO, SO IT IS A, THAT'S THE NUMBER, THE, THE MINIMUM NUMBER REQUIRED TO HAVE DAILY TO BE ABLE TO STAFF THOSE UNITS. 
          RIGHT? AND, AND SO MY POINT WAS GOING TO BE WHEN DO YOU THINK WE'LL GET THAT EIGHT 17 NUMBER UP TO CLOSER TO THE, SO AGAIN, WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE UP FOR YEARS OF, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BIGGEST CLASSES THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE GRADUATING, RIGHT? SO WE LOOK AT THAT, WHAT DOES THE OPTIMUM NUMBER LOOK LIKE FOR US? OUR CALCULATIONS ARE 4,000 171, RIGHT? SO WE GET THAT NUMBER PLUS WHAT WE HAVE NOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE ABOUT THREE 50 OFF, BUT IT TAKES THE GRADUATING CLASS, WHAT WE PROJECTED IN FOUR YEARS. 
          WE MIGHT MEET THAT. 
          BUT AGAIN, THERE'S THE ATTRITION RATES. 
          HOW DOES THAT LOOK? WE ARE SEEING THAT MORALE IS DEFINITELY INCREASED. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY, WELL, I DECIDED NOT TO RETIRE OR BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT. 
          BUT THE ANSWER IS NO RIGHT NOW. 
          RIGHT? SO THERE'S ALL THESE FACTORS THAT HAVE TO COME IN ON HOW WE GET THAT NUMBER. 
          BUT WORKING THE RECRUITING IS DEFINITELY A PIECE ON THAT. 
          BUT ALONG WITH THAT PIECE COMES EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IT TAKES TO RUN THIS DEPARTMENT PARAMEDIC TRAINING THAT IS ACCOUNTED DAILY. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU TAKE THE PARAMEDIC PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S A 14 MONTH COURSE. 
          SO THAT MEANS THAT FOR 14 MONTHS WE CAN'T UTILIZE THAT PARAMEDIC. 
          PRIOR TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE HAVING 75 MAYBE PER YEAR, 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE STAFFING TO ALLOW MORE PEOPLE. 
          NOW WE HAVE 150. 
          BUT THAT PARAMEDIC ALONG WITH THOSE 14 MONTHS REQUIRES EIGHT WEEKS AND SIX WEEKS OF QUOTE UNQUOTE INTERNSHIP THAT THEN GO TO THIS STATION FOR EIGHT WEEKS. 
          BUT YOU CAN'T COUNT ON MAN PARK. 
          THEY'RE BEING PRECEPTED AN INTERNSHIP. 
          SO THAT'S ALSO WHAT IMPACTS SOME OF THE OVERTIME BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, IF I COULD, UM, BY THE WAY, THE NUMBER OF UNITS, UH, BROWNED OUT HAS GONE WAY DOWN. 
          SO THAT'S A GOOD THING, RIGHT? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING. 
          IT'S A REALLY GOOD THING. 
          YES, IT IS. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN I JUST FINISH UP OR YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK IN THE QUEUE? ALRIGHT, SO, UH, LOOKING AT SLIDE NUMBER 16 MM-HMM . 
          UM, NEW HIRES VERSUS ATTRITION. 
          SO JUST LOOKING AT NEW HIRES AND ATTRITIONS FOR FY 26, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND, BUT TO THE LEFT OF THAT YOU HAVE, UM, REHIRES OF 
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27. 
          WAS THAT IN FY 25 OR WAS THAT DURING THIS FISCAL YEAR? ARE YOU LOOKING, UH, THE LA FISCAL YEAR 26 RIGHT NOW, SIR? WELL, UM, UH, THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S A, OH, 27, THOSE, THAT, THOSE ARE THE REHIRES. 
          WE STARTED THAT REHIRE PROGRAM IN, IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          YES. 
          WE STARTED, WHEN WE FIRST GOT HERE, WE RESTRUCTURED THINGS TO GET THOSE MEMBERS BACK TO REHIRE, WHICH IS, IT, IT, IT SAVES MONEY IN THE LONG RUN BECAUSE IT'S ONLY A EIGHT WEEK PROGRAM VERSUS, AND EVEN THEN IT'S, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING MAYBE SIX WEEKS. 
          IT'S JUST TO BASICALLY GET THOSE FIREFIGHTERS BACK INTO THE HOUSTON WAY THAT THEY LEFT. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER FLICKINGER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          HOW ARE YOU? UM, KI WHAT HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER? WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT SIR, UM, SLIDE 12. 
          THE OVERTIME WENT UP FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTH AND ALSO ALSO THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS YEAR IN FISCAL YEAR 25, IT GOES BACK TO THE NUMBER OF OUTER SERVICE APPARATUSES. 
          SO BACK THEN WE HAD 304 OUTER SERVICE APPARATUSES, THEREFORE DIDN'T HAVE, THEY WEREN'T BEING STAFFED THIS YEAR. 
          NOW WITH THE 91% DECREASE ON THAT, OKAY, WE GOT 26. 
          SO IT TAKES THAT OVERTIME TO FILL THAT, THAT THAT UNIT. 
          OKAY, I GOT YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I, I'VE ALSO HEARD COMMENTS THAT, UM, SOME OF THE FIREFIGHTERS WILL BE MANIPULATING THEIR SCHEDULE SOMEWHAT TO MAXIMIZE THEIR OVERTIME. 
          IS THAT A CONCERN? MANIPULATING? I WOULDN'T SEE HOW THEY DO THAT BECAUSE IT, THEY'RE ALL ON 24 HOUR SHIFTS. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW CAN THEY PUT IN FOR OVERTIME? YES. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE OUR STAFFING OFFICES THAT FILLS THE NEEDS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE NUMBERS COMING IN THAT DAY, PROJECTED NUMBERS, AND YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT CALLED IN SICK TO, YOU KNOW, BASE EMERGENCY VACATION. 
          SO THOSE FACTORS RIGHT. 
          THAT COME IN ON TOP OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE THE PROJECTED SCHEDULES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN MARTINEZ. 
          THANK YOU CHAIRWOMAN, UH, CHIEF, THANK YOU AND, AND YOUR TEAM FOR ALL THE WORK THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING. 
          UM, I WANT TO, UH, LOOK AT SLIDE 11. 
          UH, WHERE THE, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW FOR HPD, UH, WHAT'S BUDGET IS 43 MILLION, UH, ROUGHLY. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA BE TRENDING MORE OR LESS TO ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OVER 77 MILLION. 
          IF WE, THIS IS ONLY ONE QUARTER, WHICH PUTS, PUTS US BACK TO THE ACTUALS ROUGHLY OF 24 AND 25. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY BUDGETED LESS THIS FISCAL YEAR THAN LAST YEAR. 
          UM, WHAT, WHAT, GOING TO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN IS BRINGING UP, WHAT MONITORING TOOLS ARE YOU UTILIZING? UH, BECAUSE THERE IS A, A DIFFERENT REASONS WHY FOLKS ARE CALLING IN FOR OVERTIME. 
          UM, ONE OF 'EM THAT COMES TO MIND IS THAT I'VE HEARD IS EMS, UH, SOME FOLKS, UM, ARE NOT WANTING TO WORK THAT AS MUCH. 
          AND SO SOMEBODY COMES IN ON OVERTIME TO WORK. 
          THE EMS, UH, IS PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY THE, THE TOUGHEST, UH, POSITION AT, AT THE, WITH FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH SO MUCH MORE, UH, ON A REALLY HOUR TO HOUR, MAYBE EVEN FASTER BASIS. 
          UH, BUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MONITORING TOOLS THAT YOU, YOU, YOU'VE IMPLEMENTED OR ARE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING? THANK YOU. 
          SO FIRST OF ALL, WHEN WE GET ON DAILY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, WHICH WHY WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT COME IN FOR OVERTIME. 
          AND THEN WE DO A DEEPER LAYER AS, AS, UH, CHIEF DIAZ MENTIONED, THE DASHBOARDS. 
          WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE, RIGHT? WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, STEVE AND DAVID, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S LOOKING, AND WE LOOK INTO DEEPER OF WHAT IS THE TREND WE'RE MONITORING, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS MONITORING THE WHOLE ASPECT OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, RIGHT? AND LOOKING AT THAT TOO, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, IT IS A BUSINESS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHAT'S THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          BUT AGAIN, THE DIFFICULT PART, WE HAVE MINIMUM STAFFING AND OF COURSE THE CITY AND THE SAFETY THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? I, YOU KNOW, IT'S EITHER BROWNING OUT IN, YOU KNOW, APPARATUSES, WHICH IMPACTS SAFETY OR RESPONSE TIME'S GONNA GO UP. 
          WE SHOWED IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT TWO, THREE MINUTES MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. 
          BUT WE ARE MONITORING, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW, HOW WE CAN WORK BETTER WITH THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CUT BACK IN CERTAIN AREAS AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT WE HAVE THAT, THAT SAFETY ASPECT, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, WORLD CUP COMING. 
          WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO WE ARE MONITORING SO CAREFULLY ON THAT. 
          IF, IF WE WERE, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT MINIMUM STAFFING, IT'S, IT'S ROOTED AT THE FOUR, FOUR, UH, MEN ON OR FOR FOUR PERSON APPARATUS? IS THAT WHAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO? MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND WE, WE'VE INCREASED ITS, AND I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT OR MIGHT BE INCORRECT, BUT WE'VE INCREASED ABOUT A HUNDRED 
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NEW FIREFIGHTERS, UM, CORRECT. 
          UM, OVER THE PAST YEAR, I GUESS. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT DECREASE IN OVERTIME. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, SIR, IS I MENTIONED RIGHT NOW ARE, YOU MENTIONED EMS AND YOU KNOW, AND FOR ME, THE MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR MEMBERS. 
          THE PARAMEDICS, OUR EMTS DOING AN AMAZING JOB. 
          AND LIKE YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE HAD PEOPLE THAT, THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PARAMEDICS, WHEN I TOOK OVER, I TOOK A HUGE LOOK AT THEM AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 
          THAT ALONE DECREASES MORALE. 
          AND I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR MEMBERS. 
          HOWEVER, WE DID NOT HAVE THE STAFFING, THE, THE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEND OUT TO, TO TRAIN, BECAUSE YOU TOOK FROM THIS PIE, YOU SEND 'EM TO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL, WHICH IS 14 MONTHS, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS PIECE IS NOW GONNA BE ABLE TO LIKE 35 PEOPLE. 
          RIGHT NOW WE GOT 75. 
          SO THAT MEANS WHILE THEY'RE IN SCHOOL, THEY CAN'T WORK, THEY CAN'T BE UTILIZED FOR MINIMUM STAFFING. 
          SO RIGHT OFF THE TOP, THAT INCREASES THAT. 
          NOW WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GROW OUR PARAMEDIC CORPS, AS YOU MENTIONED. 
          IT IS, IT WAS VERY HARD FOR ME TO WATCH THAT. 
          OUR MEDICS, WHO I CONSIDER THE BEST IN THE WORLD, AND DR. 
          PER IS AN AMAZING JOB WITH THE PROGRAM. 
          BUT TO FILL THE NEEDS OF WHAT'S REQUIRED AND TO TAKE CARE OF THEM TOO, SIR, BECAUSE NOW YOU MENTIONED MENTAL HEALTH, THE MORE MEDICS I HAVE AND I GOTTA LOOK AT ATTRITION RATE, THE MORE WE CAN, WHAT WE USED TO DO IS USE THAT AT THAT MEDIC TO TAKE IT ON THE FIRE TRUCK AND KIND OF GET THAT BREAK. 
          BUT WE NEEDED PEOPLE NOW THAT WE'RE GETTING, PEOPLE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THINGS THAT WE COULDN'T BACK BE, DO, DO IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS. 
          I, I'LL JUST CLOSE WITH THIS. 
          I WANT TO, I WANNA BE SUPPORTIVE, UH, OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL HAVE THE TOOLS NEEDED. 
          UH, BUT I ALSO WANT TO HAVE A HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE CAN LOWER THAT THE, UH, OVERTIME BE ABLE TO GIVE THE RESOURCES THAT OUR, OUR FIREFIGHTERS NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT MENTAL HEALTH, FOR SURE, I GET IT. 
          UH, SOME OF THE STORIES I'VE HEARD OF, OF THE, THE, UH, EMS, UM, POSITIONS. 
          I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UNDER UNDERSTAND OUR BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, HOW DO WE START LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL? AND THAT HAS TO BE A REAL CONVERSATION. 
          IT IS. 
          AND WE LOOK AT THAT EVERY DAY, SIR. 
          WE, WE LOOK AT THAT, WE GET THE DAILIES. 
          LIKE WHEN I GOT THERE, I, WE HAD TO SEE THE HISTORY, THE TREND, RIGHT? EVERYTHING FROM BROWNOUTS, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE. 
          I COULDN'T GATHER THAT TREND. 
          I COULDN'T SEE IT. 
          BUT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF JULY WE STARTED, BUT THEN WE START TAKING THAT DEEP DIVE, OKAY, WE'RE GETTING MORE PEOPLE, WHAT'S BEING UTILIZED? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE CALLING SICK? IF NOT, WHY? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING INJURED? WHICH IMPACTS US, RIGHT? AND SO WE HAVE THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT ONLY IT GOES BEYOND JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW DO WE PREVENT IT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SEEING MORE BACK INJURIES. 
          SO WE'D HAVE MORE TRAINING. 
          WE'RE ASKING FOR SAFETY OFFICERS AND NOT ONLY GOING TO HELP THE TRAIN WITH THE SAFETY OUT THERE THAT DISTRICT CHIEFS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS DESERVE, BUT ALSO TRAIN ON TRENDS. 
          WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THAT RIGHT ON TOP OF THAT? AND HOW TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM THE INJURIES AND EVERYTHING AMOUNTS TO THAT, YOU KNOW? SO WE GOTTA TAKE A WHOLE DEEP DIVE, NOT JUST THE BIG OVERVIEW, BUT WE CONTINUOUSLY LOOK AT THAT CHIEF LOLL AND EVERY MORNING ARE LOOKING ALONG WITH CHIEF CAMPBELL, WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE? WHAT IS THIS, WHAT IS THIS AREA DOING THAT THIS AREA IS NOT? AND NOW THAT WE'RE BALANCING OUT THE SHIFTS, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO SEE WHERE THE DEFICIENCIES WERE, WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          BUT AS I SAID, LOOKING AT THE ATTRITION, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE TO FOUR YEARS WHEN WE START SEEING SOMETHING. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE QUESTION'S ALWAYS BEEN, WE WANNA SAVE THIS POT OF MONEY, OR DO WE WANNA INCREASE SAFETY? WHICH WE'VE SHOWN THAT 91% OF APPARATUS IS ARE WORKING TO HELP, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT WE HAVE. 
          SO WE'RE DOING A LOT THAT, THAT WE, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, AS I SAY, THE UGLY CONVERSATION IN THE REALITY CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU CHIEF. 
          HUH? THANK NO, I, I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE AND EVERYTHING YOU'RE, UM, HFD DOES FOR OUR CITY. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO SOLID WASTE OVER TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          ON THE TRASH DIRECTOR, HASSON COUNCIL MEMBER TURN. 
          THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP EVERYONE. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. 
          UM, SO FOR THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, UM, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS MOSTLY ON THE GENERAL FUND, BUT THERE ARE SOME SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS THAT THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT HAS. 
          DIRECTOR HASSAN IS GONNA TALK ABOUT THE MINIMUM STAFFING FOR HIS DEPARTMENT AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. 
          I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE, UM, FINANCIALS RELATED WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND 
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WE WILL TALK ABOUT, UM, ATTRITION AND HIRING AS WELL. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          UM, WHEN I FIRST TOOK OVER THIS POSITION, UM, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, WE HAD LOST ABOUT 37 EMPLOYEES DUE TO THE, UH, RETIREMENT. 
          UM, WE'RE OPERATING ON, UM, THE FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS. 
          I COULDN'T HIRE ANYONE TILL APPROXIMATELY AROUND JULY. 
          UH, SINCE JULY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HIRE NINE DRIVERS. 
          UM, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE 14 MORE IN THE HOPPER TO BRING ON BOARD SO WE CAN GET, UM, TO OUR GOAL AS A HUNDRED PERCENT ON TIME COLLECTION. 
          UM, DO I NEED TO GO OVERTIME FOR RIGHT NOW? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, HOW DO WE USE OVERTIME? RIGHT NOW WE DID AN OPERATIONAL CHANGE AND A FIVE DAY WORK WEEK, WHICH WE WERE ON FOUR TENS. 
          WE CAME IN AND LOOKED AT TO SEE HOW MORE EFFICIENT WE CAN BE WITH THE FIVE DAY SCHEDULE, WHICH WE TOOK A NORMAL DAY OF WEDNESDAY. 
          THAT WAS NORMALLY THE OVERTIME DAY AND WE MADE IT A REGULAR DAY, UH, WITH JUST AT THIS TIMES FOR OUR DRIVERS TO COME IN FROM SEVEN 30, UH, TO FIVE 30, WE MOVED IT TO 6:00 AM TO TWO 30. 
          UM, TO MAXIMIZE TRAVEL TIME BETWEEN MORNING RUSH HOUR SCHOOL TRAFFIC, WE DID, UH, AN ANALYSIS ON, UH, TRAFFIC OPERATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          UH, DURING MY TIME IN PUBLIC WORKS, WE LOOKED AT THAT AND THAT SEEMED TO BE VERY BENEFICIAL ON HOW WE COULD DEPLOY MORE TRUCKS TO GET TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, WITHOUT, UM, RUNNING INTO HEAVY, THICK TRAFFIC, UH, WHICH SEEMED TO BE VERY BENEFICIAL. 
          UM, WE USED SATURDAYS AS BASICALLY A MAKEUP DAY, IF YOU WILL. 
          UH, IN THE PAST OUR DRIVERS WOULD COME IN AND JUST BE EXPECTED TO WORK OVERTIME AND SOLID WASTE. 
          IT WAS ALMOST ONE OF THOSE THINGS LIKE, HEY, YOU GONNA HAVE TO WORK 60 HOURS A WEEK TO GET THE JOB DONE? THROUGH OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES, WE'VE LEARNED THAT, UM, WE STILL NEED THAT SATURDAY TO MAKE UP AT LEAST PORTION OF THE DAY. 
          SO, WHICH WE CUT DOWN OVER TIME BY WORKING THAT WEDNESDAY. 
          AND WE STILL PICK UP ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE HOURS ON SATURDAY TO CATCH UP. 
          UM, WE USED TO BE A SEVEN DAY OPERATION, BUT WE DO NOT WORK AT ALL ON SUNDAYS RIGHT NOW, UNLESS IT'S A HOLIDAY. 
          ONE THING THAT WE DID LEARN, UM, IN THE BEGINNING OF MY TENURE WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE AND THE VEHICLES THAT WORK ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, THAT ONE HOLIDAY THAT WE OBSERVE COULD PUT US BACK TWO TO THREE WEEKS. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS TOLD TO ME, THERE'S NO WAY THAT I WOULD'VE BELIEVED IT UNTIL I EXPERIENCED IT MYSELF. 
          UM, SO THAT YOU WILL SEE DURING THE MONTHS OF HOW THE OVERTIME FLUCTUATED, IT WAS MOST OF THE TIME AND WHEN IT WAS A HOLIDAY IN THAT MONTH, THAT COULD PUT US BACK, UH, DUE TO SEVERAL FACTORS FROM, UM, A STANDPOINT OF CALL INS, PEOPLE GOING ON VACATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH ALLOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF STAFF TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH THE JOB THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO, GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE ON THE FINANCIALS, UM, SLIDE 20 FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, 25 AND 26. 
          YOU SEE THE SAME FORMAT WE WENT THROUGH FOR THE POLICE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, FOR FISCAL YEAR 24. 
          UH, THE OVERTIME ACTUALS EXCEEDED THE BUDGET. 
          THE, THE ONE THING THAT YOU DO NOTICE IS DIFFERENT WITH THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT COMPARED TO POLICE AND FIRE IS THAT SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT HAD THE, UM, BASE PAY SAVINGS OR OTHER SAVINGS IN THE DEPARTMENT TO HELP OFFSET THE OVERTIME COSTS. 
          SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS, UM, HAD TO COME BASICALLY FROM GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE IN THOSE YEARS. 
          UM, IN FISCAL YEAR 24, IT WAS ABOUT $3 MILLION. 
          IN FISCAL YEAR 25, IT WAS ABOUT $1.3 MILLION. 
          UM, AND FISCAL YEAR 26, UM, IT'S TWO TOO SOON TO TELL EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE'LL HAVE. 
          UM, UH, DIRECTOR HASSAN DID KNOW AT THE BEGINNING WE DID LOSE SOME OF THE CRITICAL POSITIONS TO THE VOLUNTARY RETIREMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM. 
          UM, OF THOSE 37 THAT WERE LOST, I THINK ABOUT 16 OF THEM WERE, UH, IN THE REAR LOADER AND SIDE LOADER, UM, CLASSIFICATIONS. 
          SO THOSE ARE BEING REHIRED. 
          UM, CURRENTLY, UM, GOING TO SLIDE 21, THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE THE MONTHLY SNAPSHOT. 
          UM, SO IN JULY WE UH, DID SEE A SAVINGS FROM YEAR OVER YEAR AS FAR AS THE DOLLARS SPENT ON OVERTIME. 
          UM, IN AUGUST, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN SEPTEMBER. 
          WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON TRACK WITH THE, WITH THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          UM, AND THEN THE NUMBER OF HOURS FOLLOWS THE SIMILAR TREND THERE. 
          AND DIRECTOR HASSAN, IF YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LAST 
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SLIDE, SLIDE 23 ON THE NEW, UH, THE NEW HIRES VERSUS THE ATTRITION. 
          I KNOW YOU TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ON IT. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          AS FAR AS THE HIRING INITIATIVES, SO OVER THE PAST MONTH AND A HALF, WE'VE HAD, UH, TWO JOB FAIRS IN WHICH WE'VE SELECTED OVER, UH, 20 INDIVIDUALS TO COME JOIN OUR TEAM AS DRIVERS. 
          UH, WE RECEIVED NINE SO FAR, SO WE'RE WAITING ON THE, THE REMAINING TO COME ON BOARD. 
          THAT CONCLUDES THE SLIDES FOR THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT. 
          THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. 
          THANK YOU, SHOWTIME. 
          I JUST LANDED. 
          SO, UM, HAPPY TO SEE YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          ONE, I SUPPORT YOUR LEADERSHIP. 
          THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          AND YOUR WORK WITH THE OFFICE, UM, THE OVERTIME, I UNDERSTAND YES MA'AM. 
          BASED IN CONTEXT, RIGHT? AND I UNDERSTAND THE DEMAND OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THE DEMAND, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S A HOLIDAY AND WE HAVE CLEARLY COMMUNICATED TO CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU'VE REQUESTED SIX MONTHS TO RIGHTSIZE YES, MA'AM. 
          TO GET YOUR INTERNAL SYSTEM TOGETHER AND THAT WE JUST GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A BUMPY RIDE FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, I DO HAVE A, A PENDING MEETING, BUT I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU, WE HAVE OVER 300 OPEN CASES FOR PICKUP IN 3 1 1 JUST IN DISTRICT THEFT THAT'S DOCUMENTED. 
          UM, AND WE ARE CLEARING THE BACKLOG, BACKLOG OF RECYCLE BINS WITH YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          MY HOT TEAM WAS OUT EARLIER THIS MORNING DELIVERING THAT. 
          UM, ANY ADVICE? 'CAUSE I DO HAVE TO HUSTLE OFF. 
          THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE, MA'AM, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BLITZING THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, GETTING THOSE TRUCKS OUT THERE. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED IN MY COMMENTS TWO WEEKS AGO DURING POP-OFF, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS JUST AN INTERNAL COMMUNICATION KINK IN THE CHAIN, WHEN SOMEONE CALLS 3 1 1, THEY'LL JUST GO PICK UP THAT ONE. 
          THE, THE WHOLE STREET MAY BE DELAYED AND THEY'LL JUST PICK UP THE ONE HOME THAT WAS DOCUMENTED THAT WAS RECORDED VERSUS CLEARING THE STREET. 
          SO THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND THEN CALL Y'ALL TO GO OUT THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S EFFICIENCY, TIME AND EFFORT, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          SO IS THERE COMMUNICATION PROTOCOLS Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON TO INSTRUCT DRIVERS? YES, MA'AM. 
          ESPECIALLY WITH THE, UM, NEW INVENTORY OF TRUCKS AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TRUCK SYSTEMS YOU HAVE. 
          UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEE LIKE PUBLIC WORKS, IF THERE'S A, A POTHOLE, THEY'LL JUST FIX IT ON THE STREET. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          CAN WE ADOPT A SIMILAR METHOD WITH SOLID WASTE? THEY CAN JUST CLEAR THE STREET. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UH, IT'S, THAT'S A TWO-PARTER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET ME ASK YOU, WAS IT, UH, HEAVY TRASH OR IT WAS A, IT'S ALL MIXED UP. 
          IT'S EVERYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I MEAN, I KNOW THAT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? AND I THINK BECAUSE OF THE DELAYS, PEOPLE HAVE RECYCLE AND HEAVY TRASH AND OTHER THINGS OUT THERE AT THE SAME TIME NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, AND THEN THERE'S SOME INCIDENTS OF ILLEGAL DUMPING, WHICH OUR HOT TEAM IS, IS ADDRESSING. 
          SO I THINK FOR SOME OF THE CASES IT'S ALL, IT'S VERY NUANCED, RIGHT? AND EACH ONE IS DIFFERENT. 
          I KNOW THAT DEPENDING ON WHEN THE, THE TRUCKS ARE OUT, BUT HOWEVER I CAN ASSIST, LIKE WHATEVER YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, SEND ME THE FLYERS FOR THE JOB FAIRS, I WANNA GET THAT OUT. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          IT'S LIKE SEND THAT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS SO WE CAN, UM, UM, UM, PUT HELP PUT THAT ON THE STREET, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR DEPA DEPARTMENT HAS WHAT IT NEEDS. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          AND I ALSO THINK THE 3 1 1 PIECE IS IMPORTANT FROM A DATA PERSPECTIVE TO SHOW THE DEMAND RIGHT. 
          THAT SOLID WASTE HAS SO THAT WE CAN EVENTUALLY GET TO A PLACE OF FULLY FUNDING THE DEPARTMENT TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          AND WITH THAT, I BID YOU A DO MADAM CHAIR. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UH, PLEASE SEND THE FLYERS AND, AND HOWEVER ABSOLUTELY WE CAN SUPPORT YOU AND YOUR TEAM. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER FLICKINGER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, I ACTUALLY DID A RIDE ALONG WITH ONE OF YOUR TRUCKS YESTERDAY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          IT WASN'T PLANNED FOR THIS OVERTIME MEETING, BUT JUST HAPPENED TO BE COINCIDENCE. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW THAT I THINK ALL OF US AS CITY COUNCIL NEED TO KIND OF PROMOTE IS THAT, UH, THESE ARE LARGE TRUCKS. 
          UH, THEY'RE HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT OVERHEAD STUFF WITH, UH, TREE LIMBS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          IF WE COULD ENCOURAGE OUR CONSTITUENTS TO NOT PARK ON THE STREET DURING TRASH COLLECTION DAY, I I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAD THREE TOWN HALLS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. 
          I CERTAINLY COULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE PUTTING SOMETHING OUT IN MY NEXT MONTH'S NEWSLETTER. 
          THANK YOU TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I, I'M CERTAINLY NOT LOOKING FOR AN ORDINANCE TO, TO BAN IT AND TICKET PEOPLE, BUT EVEN IF WE CAN GET 10 OR 25% OF THE PEOPLE TO DO IT, IT'D BE A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          TO YOUR PEOPLE. 
          UH, IT'D MAKE THEIR JOB NOT ONLY EASIER, BUT I THINK WE'D PROBABLY END UP WITH DAMAGING FEWER VEHICLES. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK THERE'D BE A LOT OF GOOD COME OUTTA THAT. 
          THERE WAS A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I SAW THAT I WANNA TALK TO YOU PRIVATELY ABOUT YES, SIR. 
          IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. 
          BUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, UH, A BRAND NEW VEHICLE I WAS IN. 
          UH, AND THE DRIVER HAD BEEN THERE FOR 18 YEARS. 
          MY GUESS IS THAT WASN'T AN ACCIDENT, BUT, UH, I I THOUGHT IT LOOKED VERY GOOD. 
          SO YES SIR. 
          SIR, APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DO. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MARTINEZ. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN, UH, DIRECTOR FIRST I JUST WANNA SAY, 
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UH, THANK YOU FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM. 
          UM, THIS IS SOLID WASTE, UH, OPERATIONS CHALLENGES IS NOT A NEW ISSUE, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL BEEN ABLE TO DO, UH, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE THE HELP. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, THE, THE, UH, THE, RIGHT NOW I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE 20, AND IT'S SIMILAR TO THE, THE PREVIOUS ONES. 
          RIGHT NOW, I THINK YOU'RE STILL TRENDING AT ABOUT 6.8 MILLION. 
          UH, HOPEFULLY, UH, HOPEFULLY NOT. 
          BUT, UH, DO YOU ANTICIPATE, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 1.7, DO YOU ANTICIPATE IT NOT INCREASING AS MUCH OVERTIME 'CAUSE OF OPERATIONAL CHANGES? AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, UM, CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT, THOSE OPERATIONAL CHANGES ARE GONNA BE? Y'ALL ALREADY SUBMITTED YOUR YES, SIR. 
          UH, YOUR, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT STRUCTURE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, AND THEN I'LL HAVE A FOLLOW UP AFTER THAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          UH, ONE THING WE DO, TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, NO, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE USING THAT MUCH MORE, UH, OF THE BUDGET, UM, ONCE WE HIRE THESE NEXT GROUP OF DRIVERS THAT WE HAVE COMING ON, AND ONE THING THAT WE, UM, JUST COMPLETED WAS OUR SOP PROCESS, IN WHICH BEFORE, UH, OUR ADMINISTRATION TOOK OVER, THERE WERE NO KPIS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL IN OUR DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS DRIVER'S WISE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, WE HAD DRIVERS THAT WOULD GO OUT ON ROUTES, BUT THERE WERE, THERE WERE NO KEY KPIS TO INDICATE WHAT THAT ROUTE, THAT DRIVER SHOULD COMPLETE ON THEIR ROUTE. 
          SO WE BENCHMARKED VERSUS OTHER CITIES THAT'S CLOSE TO THE SIZE OF HOUSTON. 
          AND WE CAME UP WITH A NUMBER, WE MET WITH THE, UH, ENTIRE STAFF. 
          I WENT OUT TO EACH ONE OF THE SERVICE CENTERS, GAVE THEM, I GOT THEIR INPUT FIRST BEFORE I MADE A FINAL DECISION TO SEE, WHICH WAS A NUMBER THAT WAS COMFORTABLE. 
          THE, FOR ONE, BOOST THE EMPLOYEES MORALE AND GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO WORK AND FEEL VALUED AND ALSO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS OVERALL PROBLEM THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING HERE FOR YEARS, WHICH WE IMP IMPLEMENTED THOSE KPIS, WHICH NOW EACH DRIVER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOMES SERVICE WITH THAT, TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WITH STAFFING IT APPROPRIATELY, AS LONG AS THE TRUCKS ARE MAKING IT THROUGH A, A FULL DAY, WHICH I, I WANT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO, UH, DIRECTOR GLASSCOCK BECAUSE WE MADE LEAPS AND BOUNDS ON THE FLEET. 
          UM, AND OUR TRUCKS STAYING UP AND RUNNING NOW WE'RE ABLE TO STAFF APPROPRIATELY SO THAT WE WON'T HAVE TO RUN INTO THAT PROJECTED AMOUNT. 
          AND I HOPE TO HAVE IT CUT OFF WITHIN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO RIDE THAT THIS WAVE, COMPLETE LAP FOR THE 12 MONTHS. 
          THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, BEING ABLE TO RIGHT SIZE I'D, AT SOME POINT I'D LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT, WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT TRANSFER STATIONS AND HOW WE CAN START UTILIZING THEM MORE SO WITHIN THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, BUT I GUESS MY, MY LAST QUESTION IS AT WHAT POINT WILL WE HAVE EXHAUSTED EVERYTHING? UM, AGAIN, I HAVE FULL FAITH IN EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING RIGHT BEFORE WE SHOULD REALLY BE TALKING ABOUT A TRASH FEE. 
          UM, YES SIR. 
          I'M NOT GONNA LET IT GO. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO TRASH FEE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, BUT AS I CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED INTO THE CITY OF HOUSTON AND THEY CALL 3 0 1 AND SAY, HEY, SET UP MY TRASH FEE. 
          YEAH. 
          HEY, YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. 
          YOU'RE GOOD. 
          WE'RE MISSING OUT ON REVENUE THAT WE SHOULD ALREADY BE COLLECTING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, AND WE JUST CAN'T CONTINUE TO OPERATE THAT WAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          UH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, ULTIMATELY WE, WE IDENTIFY REVENUE SOURCES. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND THIS IS THE ONE OF THE EASIEST REVENUE SOURCES THAT PEOPLE ARE OKAY WITH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, SO AT WHAT POINT DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD'VE EXHAUSTED? AND I KNOW THAT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ASK. 
          YES. 
          THAT IS PRETTY TOUGH. 
          UM, BEFORE WE COULD START HAVING A, A REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT A TRASH FEE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, FROM A COLLECTION STANDPOINT, I THINK WE'RE, WE, WE WILL BE PRETTY OPERATIONALLY SOUND IF YOU CAN. 
          IT'S THE HEAVY TRASH PORTION THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH BECAUSE CURRENTLY, UH, FTES, WE CAN ONLY DEPLOY, UH, APPROXIMATELY 19 CREWS A DAY. 
          WE HAVE 27 TOTAL, BUT THAT'S IF EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THAT AREA COMES TO WORK EVERY DAY. 
          UH, FOR A CITY THIS SIZE, 19 CREWS CAN ONLY PUT A DENT IN WHAT'S, WHAT'S WHAT'S OUT THERE. 
          UH, MOST OF THE HOMES WE GO TO, UM, WE'RE FINDING THE VOLUME OF HEAVY TRASH IN FRONT OF THEM. 
          HOME DOUBLES THE SIZE OF THEIR HOME, PERIOD, . 
          SO, UH, HAVING CREWS IN CERTAIN AREAS OR LIKE THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WE'VE BEEN PULLING 400 TONS, ALMOST A DAY OUT OF A CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO, UM, I, I, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          AT SOME POINT IN TIME, IT'S, WE'RE GONNA RUN OUTTA RESOURCES TO HANDLE THE LOAD THAT WE HAVE, AND THE CITY KEEPS GROWING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND OUR DEPARTMENT ONLY HAS 398 PEOPLE TOTAL RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA DEFINITELY NEED THAT. 
          UM, WE'RE HERE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MARTINEZ. 
          AND WHAT, WHEN YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU WENT TO, TO TALK TO THE GUYS ABOUT HOW, HOW MANY HOUSES CAN YOU PICK UP? RIGHT? WHAT, WHAT IS THE 
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AVERAGE ROUTE NOW FOR A DRIVER? RIGHT. 
          HOW MANY HOUSES? THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          SO WITH BENCHMARK VERSUS OTHER CITIES THAT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE BETTER THAN ALREADY, AND, UH, FOR AS GARBAGE, THEY WERE DOING 1100 HOMES. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, I STARTED WITH OURS FOR, WITH 950 SIMPLE, BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE PLACE TO TAKE RECYCLING AND OTHER CHALLENGES THAT OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE THAT WE HAVE INTERNALLY. 
          UH, AND WE'RE DOING NINE, UM, NINE 50 FOR BOTH. 
          'CAUSE IT'S NINE FOR RECYCLING. 
          DEPENDS ON HOW NINE 50 FOR REGULAR TRASH AND NINE 50 FOR YES MA'AM. 
          FOR A MINUTE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR OPTIMUM STAFF? ARE YOU STILL FIGURING THAT OUT? I MEAN, TO, TO REALLY DELIVER THEY SERVICE? YES, MA'AM. 
          THE, I MEAN, YOU'RE AT 3 98, 3 98 RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, THAT FT, UH, WAS BASED ON, I THINK IT'S, THAT'S BEEN THE SAME COUNT IN OUR DEPARTMENT FOR 10 YEARS. 
          IT DIDN'T EQUATE TO THE GROWTH THAT THE CITY HAS HAD OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. 
          I DO NOT HAVE THAT EXACT NUMBER RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL FINDING OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES THAT WE CAN CAPITALIZE ON AND WHICH WE'RE DOING. 
          BUT I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER. 
          AND I MEAN, I, I KEEP BEATING THE DEAD HORSE ABOUT THAT STUDY WE PAID FOR THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HELP WITH THESE KIND OF OPERATIONAL, UM, QUESTIONS. 
          IS THERE A STATUS UPDATE ON THE BURNS AND MCDONALD'S STUDY? UH, I, I, I JUST KNOW IT'S ALMOST COMPLETE NOW, WHERE, WHERE IT IS WITH THAT ALMOST COMPLETE, ALMOST COMPLETE. 
          BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE SCOPE, THAT WAS PART OF THE SCOPE OF THE WORK. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE OPTIMUM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ALL OF THAT IS. 
          AND, UM, DIRECTOR, THANKS AGAIN FOR THIS CHART. 
          I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STANDARD WAY TO DO IT FOR EACH DEPARTMENT. 
          I MEAN, WE'LL NOTICE COLLEAGUES ON THIS ONE, THERE IS REALLY NO OFFSET BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE IT. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY THEY NEED TO EVEN GET THE JOB DONE. 
          SO, UH, TO COUNCIL MEMBER MARTINEZ'S POINT THAT THAT'S A REAL ISSUE. 
          THERE'S NO PLACE TO GO LOOK FOR THE, FOR THE OVERAGE THAT IN, IN OVERTIME, THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE TO LOOK. 
          UM, VICE, I MEAN, MAYOR PRO TEMS OFFICE. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, DIRECTOR HASSEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DIRECTOR BOSKEY, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. 
          UH, MAYOR PROTE, CASTEX TATUM, UM, ASK, IS THERE AN UPDATE ON THE GMER RECYCLING FACILITIES? UH, WE'RE IN, UH, CONTRACTUAL TALKS ABOUT THAT LOCATION AS WELL AS OTHER ONES. 
          UH, MOST OF ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS EXPIRED, UH, WHEN I CAME IN OFFICE. 
          SO, UH, MYSELF AND SPD ARE IN CONTRACTUAL, UH, TALKS RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF WE CAN, UH, GET THAT BID BACK OUT. 
          BUT THAT'S THE ONLY, UH, ONLY UPDATE THAT I HAVE, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          DIRECTOR HASSEN AND DIRECTOR DEBOWSKI. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'VE BEEN SITTING THERE A GOOD LONG TIME, , AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE TO, TO LOOK AT OVERTIME. 
          VERY GOOD DISCUSSION, COLLEAGUES. 
          UM, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR FINAL AGENDA ITEM. 
          THANK YOU, UH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR PIERCE FOR WAITING. 
          SO PATIENTLY. 
          UM, WE'LL, SHE'S GOING TO PRESENT THE UPDATE ON THE FUEL CARD PROGRAM AUDIT RELEASE LAST WEEK. 
          I HOPE EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          I KNOW WE ALSO HAVE, UH, DIRECTOR GARY GLASCOCK HERE, UM, WHO WILL PROBABLY BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL. 
          SO, WITH THAT, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          OH, GOOD MORNING OR AFTERNOON, ALMOST. 
          MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF YOU ON THE FUEL CARD PROGRAM AUDIT. 
          I RECOGNIZE YOUR TIME IS LIMITED, SO I'LL KEEP THIS FOCUSED ON WHAT MATTERS MOST, WHAT WE FOUND, WHY IT MATTERS FOR TAXPAYERS AND THE PRACTICAL FIXES ALREADY UNDERWAY. 
          I'D LIKE TO POINT A FEW THINGS OUT THAT I WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND. 
          THE AVERAGE ANNUAL SPEND VIA FUEL CARDS WAS APPROXIMATELY 5.1 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND FISCAL YEAR 2024 ACROSS FISCAL YEAR 2024, THERE WERE 1,286 ACTIVE FUEL CARDS. 
          JUST TRYING TO FRAME A HOUSE HERE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THE ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY, FIVE DASH FIVE IS VERY CLEAR. 
          FUEL CARDS ARE FOR CITY BUSINESS ONLY DEPARTMENTS MUST MONITOR AND RECONCILE CHARGES MONTHLY. 
          AND IF A CITY FUEL ISLAND IS WITHIN THREE MILES, COMMERCIAL FUELING SHOULD BE THE EXCEPTION, NOT THE NORM. 
          WE FOUND GAPS BETWEEN THESE EXPECTATIONS AND DAY-TO-DAY PRACTICES, ESPECIALLY AROUND MONITORING CARD ASSIGNMENT AND USING CITY FUEL WHEN PRACTICAL. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, WE IDENTIFIED, DID WE SKIP A COUPLE SLIDES? SOME AFTER THIS? OKAY. 
          OKAY, NO PROBLEM. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          GO. 
          IF YOU WANNA GO BACK, WE IDENTIFIED SYSTEMIC CONTROL WEAKNESSES THAT PUT PUBLIC DOLLARS AT RISK AND REDUCE OUR CONFIDENCE THAT EVERY FUEL PURCHASE IS NECESSARY AUTHORIZED IN 
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THE BEST AVAILABLE PRICE. 
          WE ISSUED 11 FINDINGS THREE AT A CRITICAL LEVEL THAT REQUIRE PROMPT CORRECTIVE ACTIONS. 
          THOSE THREE ARE LISTED HERE, BUT WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDES WHERE WE DISCUSS THEM IN DEPTH. 
          THE FUEL, THE FUEL CARD AUDIT REVIEWED THE 68, THE 65 FUEL ISLANDS AROUND THE CITY, 38 OF WHICH ARE ACCESSIBLE WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS IN, IN AN EFFORT TO STRENGTHEN OVERSIGHT. 
          SO, IN OTHER WORDS, OF THE 65 THAT WE MANAGE, THERE ARE 38 WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS, WHICH MEANS THAT ANY EMPLOYEE WITH A FUEL CARD CAN USE THEM. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THE CITY HAS MORE THAN A THOUSAND FUEL CARDS IN USE ACROSS CRITICAL PUBLIC SAFETY AND SERVICE DEPARTMENTS. 
          IN FISCAL YEAR 2024 ALONE, EMPLOYEES USED 1016 ACTIVE FUEL CARDS TO MAKE APPROXIMATELY 90,000 TRANSACTIONS TOTALING JUST OVER $5 MILLION. 
          TWO DEPARTMENTS, HPD AND HFD ACCOUNTED FOR OVER 99% OF THAT SPEND. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          ONE OF OUR CRITICAL FINDINGS IS THAT FUEL CARD FUEL PURCHASED NEAR CITY PUMPS, 65%, APPROXIMATELY $3.5 MILLION OF COMMERCIAL FUEL CAR TRANSACTIONS OCCURRED WITHIN THREE MILES OF A CITY OWNED FUEL ISLAND, ROUGHLY $740,000 OF THAT, UM, SPENDING OCCURRED DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS WHEN CITY, WHEN CITY FUEL ISLANDS SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED, ABOUT 2.8 MILLION OCCURRED AFTER HOURS OR ON WEEKENDS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ALLOWED PER OUR POLICY. 
          WE OBSERVED THAT IN ALMOST ALL CASES, THE COMMERCIAL FUEL STATION WAS ON AVERAGE, ACTUALLY LESS THAN THREE MILES FROM THE CITY OWNED FUEL ISLANDS WITH HFD AND AT 2.2 0.0 MILES ON AVERAGE, AND HPD AT 1.9 MILES. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          WE ALSO OBSERVED INACCURATE AND UNSUPPORTED CARD ASSIGNMENTS. 
          MORE THAN 300 VEHICLES WITH ACTIVE FUEL CARDS WERE NOT IN THE OFFICIAL FLEET SYSTEM THAT STILL HAD ACTIVE FUEL CARDS ASSIGNED TO THEM. 
          THOSE CARDS WERE USED IN OVER 10,000 TRANSACTIONS, TOTALING MORE THAN $550,000 IN FISCAL YEAR 2024. 
          WE NOTED SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES RELATED TO THOSE CARDS WERE LISTED AS SOLD OR RETIRED ON ANCILLARY, UH, LISTS THAT WERE GIVEN TO US BY FMD OR WITHIN THE ACTUAL SYSTEM. 
          THIS INDICATES A BREAKDOWN IN THE CITY'S VEHICLE TO FUEL CARD ASSIGNMENT AND DEACTIVATION PROCESS. 
          ULTIMATELY, THIS INCREASES THE RISK OF UNAUTHORIZED FUEL PURCHASES AND WEAKENS ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          WE ALSO NOTED INSUFFICIENT MONITORING. 
          91% OF MONTHLY FUEL CARD STATEMENTS HAD NO EVIDENCE OF REVIEW OR RECONCILIATION BY THE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE ALSO COULD NOT OBTAIN STATEMENTS FOR THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS OF FISCAL YEAR 2022, LIMITING AVAILABILITY FOR THAT PERIOD. 
          THE CITY'S PRIMARY, THIS, THIS RESULTS IN THE CITY'S PRIMARY DETECTIVE CONTROL REQUIRED BY AP FIVE DASH FIVE WASN'T OPERATING, LEAVING IMPROPER CHARGES MORE LIKELY TO GO UNDETECTED. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          YOU MAY BE ASKING WHAT CAN WE DO MONITOR. 
          WE'VE GOT, WE'VE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'VE CATEGORIZED THEM INTO SEVERAL CATEGORIES. 
          MONITORING AND DOCUMENTATION. 
          WE PROPOSE THAT YOU, THAT WE ENFORCE FMD ENFORCE MONTHLY STATEMENT REVIEW AND CERTIFICATION, RETAIN SUPPORTING RECORDS BY, BY BILLING CYCLE AND PERFORM QUARTERLY SWEEPS TO DEACTIVATE CARDS TIED TO RETIRED OR INACTIVE VEHICLES. 
          IN REGARDS TO CARD ISSUANCE AND ASSIGNMENT, WE REQ, WE REQUEST THAT WE REQUIRE APPROVED REQUEST FORMS, KEEP THE VEHICLE TO CARD ROSTER CURRENT ACROSS ALL SYSTEMS AND SEGREGATE CARD ADMINISTRATION FROM CARD USAGE. 
          ALSO ADDING AN INDEPENDENT CHECK THE CONTROLS AT THE PUMP. 
          WE REQUEST THAT THE VOYAGER SYSTEM, IN PARTICULAR, IS CONFIGURED TO REQUIRE EMPLOYEE PEN AND ODOMETER ENTRY ON COMMERCIAL TRANSACTIONS, RESTRICT PREMIUM FUEL GRADES UNLESS JUSTIFIED BY VEHICLE SPECIFICATIONS. 
          AND IN CASES WHERE THEIR EXCEPTIONS ARE GRANTED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS TRAINING AND ACCOUNTABILITY, WE, WE'VE RECOMMENDED THAT WE PROVIDE THAT THE FMD PROVIDE ANNUAL TRAINING FOR DEPARTMENT FUEL CARD COORDINATORS AND END USERS SUSPEND PRIVILEGES FOR NON-COMPLIANCE CONSISTENT WITH ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY FIVE DASH FIVE. 
          AND LASTLY, AND PROBABLY THE QUICKEST THING THAT CAN BE SOLVED IS STORING UNASSIGNED CARDS IN A CONTROLLED LOCATION WITH LOGS OF CUSTODY AND ACCESS. 
          I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT FMD HAS BEGUN IMPLEMENTING SEVERAL OF THESE ACTIONS AND REPORTED DEPLOYMENT OF ENHANCED ANALYTIC CAPABILITIES VIA THE SAME C ASSIST SOFTWARE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD OF BEFORE. 
          THIS BETTER DETECTS 
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IRREGULAR ACTIVITY AND OPTIMIZES OUR FUEL PRACTICES. 
          I DON'T WANT THIS TO COME ACROSS AS FINGER POINTING. 
          IT IS ABOUT STEWARDSHIP. 
          THIS IS NOT AN ALL OR NOTHING ZERO SUM GAME. 
          RE REDIRECTING EVEN A FRACTION OF COMMERCIAL FUELING TO CITY FUEL ISLANDS AND ELIMINATING INACTIVE OR DUPLICATE CARDS CAN FREE DOLLARS FOR CORE SERVICES WHILE RE REDUCING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MISUSE, REDUCING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MISUSE, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS THAT OPERATE AROUND THE CLOCK. 
          WE CAN PRESERVE THE NECESSARY FLEXIBILITY WHILE TIGHTENING CONTROLS AND DOCUMENTATION. 
          IN SUMMARY, THE AUDIT SHOWS SIGNIFICANT FIXABLE FIXABLE WEAKNESSES IN HOW WE ADMINISTER AND MANAGE THE CITY'S FUEL CARDS AT THE DIRECTION OF FMD. 
          WE CAN TIGHTEN CONTROLS, WE CAN REDUCE AVAIL AVOIDABLE SPENDING AND STRENGTHEN ACCOUNTABILITY WITHOUT IMPAIRING OPERATIONS. 
          I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THE TWO AUDITORS THAT WORKED TIRELESSLY ON THIS AUDIT, THERESA WATSON AND GAYLORD DUNN FOR THEIR HARD WORK. 
          I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. PEARSON. 
          GREAT WORK BY THE AUDITORS. 
          I FOUND THIS TO BE VERY INTERESTING TO READ ABOUT. 
          IS IT JUST THE, IS IT JUST CITY VEHICLES THAT HAVE THIS, THESE CARDS OR THIS, SOMETIMES IT'S SOMEBODY'S CAR THAT THEY USE FOR BUSINESS. 
          IS IT A COMBINATION? PRIMARILY IT'S GONNA BE CITY VEHICLES, JUST CITY VEHICLES, YES. 
          PRIMARILY. 
          AND, AND DIRECTOR GLASSCOCK, YOU MIGHT WANNA COME UP IF THERE MIGHT BE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          UM, FOR YOU, THE, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MONITORING? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MONITOR EVERYBODY'S TRIP AND HOW MUCH MILEAGE THEY HAD, THEIR POLICE OR FIRE, THEY'RE DRIVING ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          IS IT DONE KIND OF, DO YOU KIND OF AVERAGE OUT WHAT THE SPEND SHOULD BE? HOW, HOW IS MONITORING DONE PRACTICALLY FOR, FOR THE DEPARTMENTS? OR DO YOU JUST, UH, SPOT CHECK OR HOW DOES IT WORK? SO, MONITORING CURRENTLY IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE LIE RELY ON EMPLOYEE ENTRY OF MILEAGE AT THE TIME OF THE TRANSACTION. 
          VERY OFTEN WE FIND ERRORS IN THESE, UH, IN THESE ENTRIES AS THE, UH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR MENTIONED EARLIER. 
          AND, AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE, UH, UH, COUNCIL APPROVED THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SAMSARA GPS AND, UH, TELEMATICS SYSTEM EARLIER THIS YEAR. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE CURRENTLY. 
          AND WHAT THIS SYSTEM WILL PROVIDE US WITH IS, IS, UH, AND, AND FIRST I SHOULD BACKTRACK A BIT. 
          REALLY PRIOR TO THIS AUDIT, WE HAD RECOGNIZED THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT RISK OF FRAUD ASSOCIATED WITH ALL FUEL TRANSACTIONS, NOT JUST AT COMMERCIAL STATIONS, BUT ALSO AT OUR IN-HOUSE STATIONS AS WELL. 
          BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT'S, THAT'S AUTOMATICALLY COLLECTED IS THE TYPE OF FUEL, THE NUMBER OF GALLONS AND THE LOCATION AT WHERE THE, UH, TRANSACTION OCCURRED. 
          WHAT IS NOT COLLECTED AUTOMATICALLY AND WHAT IS ENTERED MANUALLY ARE THE EMPLOYEE IDS, THE VEHICLE NUMBERS, AND THE MILEAGE. 
          SO WITH THE SAMSARA SYSTEM, WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO, AND, AND I MIGHT ALSO MENTION THAT SAMSARA IS INTEGRATING WITH OUR CURRENT FUEL CARD PROVIDER, UH, UH, AND OUR PLAN IS WITH THIS SYSTEM, WE CAN PLACE A VEHICLE AT THE LOCATION OF THE TRANSACTION AND THEN AUTOMATICALLY PICK UP THE MILEAGE AS WELL. 
          AND SO WITH THESE CONTROLS, WE CAN DETERMINE THE CORRECT VEHICLE WAS BEING FUELED, AND THEN WITH THE AUTOMATED COLLECTION OF MILEAGE, WE CAN DETERMINE IF THE AMOUNT OF FUEL DISPENSED WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THE USAGE THAT, UH, BETWEEN THE, UH, PREVIOUS, UH, OF REFUELING. 
          SO IT'S REALLY GONNA ENHANCE, SO THE FUELS, SO THE SAMSARA THING WAS, IS A GOOD DEAL. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, IT'S A GOOD DEAL DEAL THAT'S REALLY GONNA HELP WITH THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S GONNA GO A LONG WAY TO, TO, UH, TO MANAGING THE, UH, THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH, WITH OUR FOOD, WHICH IS CONSIDERABLE AT THIS POINT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND IT WAS INTERESTING, THE, THE ADDITIONAL COST AT A COMMERCIAL STATION, UM, YOU KNOW, IS CONSIDERABLE. 
          SO, SO THERE'S SOMETHING WHEN THAT, THAT I SHOULD AL ALSO MENTION THERE. 
          AND SO THE, ON ON PAGE 11, YOU SEE THE, THE, UH, COST OF FUEL, UH, BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN THE, THE COMMERCIAL STATION AND THE IN-HOUSE, UH, OF FUEL. 
          PAGE 11, I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH, IT, IT'S OF THE ACTUAL AUDIT COLLEAGUES, NOT OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO, SO THE, UH, PRICE OF FUEL ON A PER GALLON BASIS THAT'S LISTED FOR THE CITY DOES NOT INCLUDE, UH, IT'S, IT'S WHAT WE TERM THE TERMINAL PRICE. 
          SO WE HAVE CONTRACTS WITH 
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SUPPLIERS THAT SUPPLY US WITH FUEL TO THEIR TERMINAL. 
          SO WE HAVE TO GO PICK UP THAT FUEL, THEN TAKE IT TO EACH OF OUR 65 STATIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE STATIONS. 
          WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH T-T-C-E-Q REGULATION. 
          WE ALSO HAVE TO SUPPORT OUR SOFTWARE SYSTEMS THAT, UH, THAT TRACK THE, UH, SUPPLY. 
          SO IT'S THE ADDITIONAL COST THAT YOU PAY KIND OF A WASH WITH THE COMMERCIAL STATION? WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KIND OF GETTING TO. 
          SO, SO OUR ANNUAL LADDER IN OUR, IN OUR FY 26, UH, OPERATING BUDGET, WE HAVE AN ADDER OF 22 CENTS PER GALLON. 
          SO EVERY GALLON THAT WE CHARGE TO OUR CLIENT DEPARTMENTS, WE ADD THIS 22 CENTS TO COVER THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS. 
          SO THE IN-HOUSE COST REMAINS LESS THAN THE, UH, OUTSIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT NOT BY QUITE AS MUCH. 
          SO, SO, AND ARE SOME OF THOSE STATIONS OUT OF SERVICE THAT WAS KIND OF BROUGHT UP IN, IN THE, I MEAN, HOW MANY, HOW MANY STATIONS DO WE HAVE AROUND THE CITY? 65. 
          ARE THEY ALL WORKING AND UP AND RUNNING TODAY? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RUNNING NOW. 
          THERE IS, THERE IS SOMETHING THAT ELECTRIC POINT OUT THOUGH. 
          SO, SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE IN PARTICULAR, THE STATIONS AT, OR THE FUEL, UH, SYSTEMS AT THEIR PARTICULAR STATIONS ARE GENERALLY MUCH SMALLER THAN THOSE SAY OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITIES, SOLID WASTE FACILITIES. 
          AND, AND SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS WE BUY A GALLON OF GAS FROM OUR SUPPLIER, AND THEN WE HAVE TO TRANSPORT IT, LIKE I MENTIONED TO THESE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS BECAUSE THOSE TANKS ARE SMALLER. 
          WE HAVE TO DO WHAT'S KNOWN AS SPLIT LOADS. 
          WE CAN'T TAKE AN ENTIRE TRANSPORT, DROP THE WHOLE LOAD, AND THEN GO BACK TO THE TERMINAL. 
          WE HAVE TO TAKE TYPICALLY A SMALLER TRUCK AND MAKE MANY MORE DELIVERIES TO KEEP THOSE TANKS TOPPED OFF. 
          SO WHAT THAT DOES IS ADD EXTRA TRANSPORTATION COSTS TO THOSE SMALLER TANKS AT BOTH POLICE AND FIRE STATIONS. 
          SO AGAIN, IT, IT, IT GETS A LITTLE, AND WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, UH, IT, IT GETS A LITTLE TRICKY. 
          UH, A COST PER GALLON'S GONNA BE THE SAME ON THE SIMILAR DAY, BUT DEPENDING ON WHERE WE PUT IT, THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL, UH, CHARGES TO THE CITY. 
          CAN I JUST ADD THAT I THINK AS A RESULT OF THE FINDINGS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE, THE ACTUAL DATA, MY TEAM ACTUALLY DID TAKE ALL OF THE LOCATIONS. 
          WE ACTUALLY MAPPED ALL OF THE LOCATIONS WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING FOR COMMERCIAL GAS, SO THE QUICKTRIP ADDRESS COMPARED TO THE CITY OWNED FUEL ISLAND. 
          RIGHT? WE LAYERED THAT IN. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE FUEL MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT COULD DO? ABSOLUTELY. 
          IF PROPERLY STAFFED. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, IS THAT AN OBSERVATION, RIGHT? THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT A CITYWIDE FUEL ASSESSMENT, RIGHT? SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S THE DAY-TO-DAY MONITORING, WHICH DIRECTOR, UH, GLASSCOCK HAS THE RIGHT TO IMPLEMENT A, UH, AP FIVE DASH FIVE WITH ALL OF ITS REPERCUSSIONS, WHICH DOES INCLUDE RESTRICTING AGGRESSIVE AND EGREGIOUS, UM, VIOLATIONS OF THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY. 
          HE HAS THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT. 
          HE ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO SEE THE TRANSACTIONS AS WE DID, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN UNRESTRICTED CITY OWNED FUEL STATION, RIGHT? BUT ON TOP OF THAT OVERARCHING, THIS IS THE COST TO THE CITY OVERALL, RIGHT? AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A CITY OWNED FUEL ISLAND AND YOU LOOK AT COMMERCIAL GAS, THE CONVENIENCE TO KEEP OPERATIONS GOING, THE SPLIT TANKS, ALL THE REASONS, ALL THE, THE 24 HOUR FIRE TRUCKS THAT ARE RUNNING OUTTA SCENE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT INTO ACCOUNT. 
          AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE OBSERVED AS WE GOT THROUGH ALL OF THESE FINDINGS, WHICH A LOT OF THEM CAN BE FIXED QUICKLY WITHOUT ADDITIONAL STAFF, WAS THAT MAYBE THAT IS WHAT THE CITY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT AND DEMANDING IS AN EVALUATION OF WHETHER IT'S COST EFFECTIVE TO HAVE CITY FUEL ISLANDS VERSUS JUST USING STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL GAS. 
          AND, AND NOT JUST COST EFFECTIVE, BUT OPERATIONALLY EFFECTIVE. 
          BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY, FIVE DASH FIVE READS A CERTAIN WAY, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOLDING THE CITY AND OFFICIALS AND, AND ALL OF OUR STAFF ACCOUNTABLE FOR. 
          AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THING, I THINK WE AGREE ON THAT, THE SIM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REITERATE THAT THE SAM C SYSTEM THAT HE'S IMPLEMENTING IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED, UH, NEXT SUMMER. 
          NEXT SUMMER IS PIVOTAL IN, IN SOLVING SOME OF THE RECONCILIATION PROBLEMS AND, AND, AND MAKING IT EASIER TO ADMINISTRATE ADMINISTER THIS PROGRAM. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY WE STILL HAVE A FIELD CARD CARD PROGRAM VALUED AT $5 MILLION, AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY MONITORING IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR POLICY. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          WHAT IS YOUR OPERATIONAL COSTS, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH ALL THOSE FUEL STATIONS? YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, BUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE INVOLVED? FUEL BUDGET, AND I THINK THREE, BUT HERE, BUT OUR, OUR OVERALL FUEL BUDGET, $29 MILLION, 
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UH, ANNUALLY, AND THAT INCLUDES BOTH OUR IN-HOUSE DISPENSE FUEL AS WELL AS THE AS WELL STAFF COMMERCIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE STAFF. 
          AND THE STAFF. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER FLICKINGER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I SPENT 27 YEARS IN LOGISTICS MANAGED FUEL CARD PROGRAMS GOING BACK TO THE EARLY NINETIES. 
          UM, THE PROGRAM WE HAD, THE DRIVERS WERE ASSIGNED A CARD, DRIVERS HAD A PIN NUMBER WHEN THE DRIVERS PURCHASED FUEL, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO PUT IN THE MILEAGE OF THE VEHICLE REQUIRED TO PUT IN THE VEHICLE NUMBER. 
          BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT TODAY, EVEN THOUGH 30 YEARS AGO WE WERE DOING IT. 
          AND NOT ONLY THAT, THE REPORTS I WOULD GET WOULD SHOW WHEN THERE WAS SOMETHING OFF, WHEN I NEEDED TO GO LOOK TO SEE WAS SOMEBODY ESSENTIALLY STEALING BECAUSE WITH THE MILEAGE AND THE NUMBER OF GALLONS, YOU KNEW HOW MANY MILES PER GALLON THEY GOT. 
          WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT TODAY. 
          YES, WE'RE ABLE TO, TO COLLECT THE BOTH THE VEHICLE NUMBER AND, AND THE MILEAGE AT IN-HOUSE AND COMMERCIAL STATIONS. 
          NOW THE PROBLEM IS THE TWO SYSTEMS DON'T, CAN'T COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. 
          SO WHEN YOU USE MILEAGE AS A TEST, IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN, WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL ENTERS THAT MILEAGE, THE SYSTEM SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK BACK AT THE PREVIOUS REFUELING. 
          CORRECT. 
          THEN COMPARE THAT MILEAGE AND DETERMINE BASED ON THAT VEHICLE IS THIS, IS THIS AMOUNT OF FUEL APPROPRIATE. 
          WHERE WE RUN INTO ISSUES IS THAT TWO SYSTEMS CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER, RIGHT? SO WE CAN HAVE A FIRE TRUCK THAT FUELS IN WITHIN THE CITY FACILITY, AND THEN AT THE NEXT REFUELING IS AT A COMMERCIAL FACILITY AND THE TWO CAN'T COMMUNICATE. 
          SO WE CAN'T LOOK BACK. 
          SO WE HAVE TO TURN THAT TEST OFF. 
          OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE A STALLED FIRE TRUCK AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION HAD IT GONE DOWN. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF AN EXAGGERATION, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HOPING THE SAMSARA SYSTEM WILL COME IN BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE MILEAGE TO BOTH SYSTEMS TO FURTHER ADD TO THAT. 
          SO THAT'S A VERY REAL RISK. 
          ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I'VE BEEN AROUND OIL AND GAS SEVERAL YEARS. 
          FUEL MANAGEMENT CARDS ARE NOT NEW. 
          UM, THE PEN ACCESS IS AT THE CARD LEVEL, AND IT DOES SHUT THE CARD DOWN ALTOGETHER. 
          THAT INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN USING YOUR FUEL CARD AT A COMMERCIAL STATION AND AND PURCHASING IN-HOUSE GAS, UH, I'M SORRY, UH, AT A FUEL ISLAND, MEANS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE CONSISTENCY WITH YOUR MILEAGE. 
          I WOULD ARGUE THOUGH THAT THAT NOT ARGUE. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT THAT IS WHY THE THIRD MOST CRITICAL FINDING IN THIS REPORT IS RELATED TO REVIEW OF TRANSACTIONS. 
          IT'S NOT JUST ON THE FUEL MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT, BUT WE ALSO, ACCORDING TO ADMINISTRATIVE FIVE DASH FIVE, WE HAVE DEPARTMENT FUEL CARD ADMINISTRATORS THAT SHOULD ALSO BE MONITORING IT. 
          IT MAKES THAT REVIEW THAT MUCH MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN A ADDRESSED, LOOSELY SAID, MANIPULATED TO ACCOMMODATE OPERATIONS. 
          THAT'S LEGIT. 
          THE REVIEW OR THE LACK OF REVIEW IS WHERE YOU WOULD PICK THAT UP. 
          IT'S WHERE YOU WOULD NOTICE THAT YOU HAVE A CARD IN A IN-HOUSE STATION THAT'S BEING USED FOR A VEHICLE WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES AND THEN A CARD AT A FUEL, THE SAME CARD AT A FUELING STATION THAT'S BEING USED FOR 90,000 MILES ODOMETER. 
          RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THAT REVIEW SHOULD BE. 
          IT DOESN'T ALL JUST RELY ON THE FUEL MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT ACCORDING TO AP FIVE DASH FIVE. 
          THERE ARE DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT THAT HOME FUEL CARDS THAT ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS RECONCILIATION. 
          AND, AND I'D LIKE TO ADD JUST FOR SOME PERSPECTIVE, IS THAT, UH, YOU SEE THAT IT IN, IN THE REPORT THAT THERE WERE 90,000 TRANSACTIONS IN FISCAL YEAR 24 USING THE FUEL CARD. 
          AND THE FUEL CARD IS ABOUT, UM, AND, AND I'M GOING ON A LIMB HERE, ABOUT 20% OF OUR ENTIRE, UH, NUMBER OF FUEL DISPENSING OPERATIONS. 
          SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE TH THE SCOPE OF THE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF TRANSACTIONS THAT OCCUR ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WE NEED SOME WAY TO AUTOMATE THAT CHECK OF, OF, OF THOSE TRANSACTIONS. 
          AND SO THAT EXCEPTIONS ARE REPORTED AND THEN WE CAN ACT ON THOSE EXCEPTIONS. 
          RUNNING THROUGH THOSE THOUSANDS IS JUST, UH, EXTREMELY TIME CONSUMING AND WELL BEYOND THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR, FOR CONTROLS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS FLAGGED AUTOMATICALLY FOR ME. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN I WOULD GET THE REPORT AND SAY, THIS IS A PROBLEM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          I CAN GIVE YOU BACK IN THE QUEUE JUST 30 
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YEARS LATER OR WHATEVER. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER RAMIREZ. 
          THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU BOTH. 
          THANK YOU, UH, FOR THIS AUDIT. 
          UH, THIS IS GOOD, IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE. 
          SO SEVERAL QUESTIONS ARISE FROM SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH, UH, HAS AT THE TOP, MORE THAN 300 INACTIVE VEHICLES HAVE ACTIVE FUEL CARDS. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND BULLET, OR THE, THE ONLY BULLET POINT SAYS 37 OF THE 302 VEHICLES WERE LISTED AS SOLD OR RETIRED. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 265 VEHICLES? ARE THESE STILL OWNED BY THE CITY? ARE THEY STILL BEING USED FOR CITY BUSINESS OR WHAT? IN, IN MOST CASES, THOSE VEHICLES ARE LEASED BY THE CITY. 
          I SEE. 
          SO M FIVE IS OUR MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. 
          THIS IS, WE USE THE M FIVE SYSTEM TO CREATE WORK ORDERS, TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE ON OUR VEHICLE. 
          AND JUST ABOUT EVERY CASE MAINTENANCE IS INCLUDED WITH THE LEASE VEHICLES. 
          SO WE DON'T WANT TO EXPEND ANY CITY RESOURCES MAINTAINING LEASE VEHICLES BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY BEING COVERED IN THE, IN THE COST OF THE LEASE. 
          BUT FUEL IS NOT. 
          SO OUR LEASE VEHICLES ARE NOT IN M FIVE, BUT FUEL IS NOT COVERED. 
          FUEL IS NOT COVERED, NO, SIR. 
          FOR THE, BY THE LEASE. 
          FOR THE LEASE VEHICLES. 
          WHAT, UH, REPRESENTATIVE RAMIREZ, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND YOU IS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR THOSE ROUGHLY 200 THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH LEASE VEHICLES, IT ALSO MEANS THAT WE, WE CANNOT NECESSARILY TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE BEING USED FOR CITY BUSINESS. 
          IT ALSO MEANS THAT WE CANNOT NECESSARILY TELL YOU THAT THE TRANSACTIONS, THE $550,000 IS LEGIT TO FURTHER THE AGENDA OF, OF THE OPERATOR. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN WE TAKE THINGS OUTSIDE OF OUR ASSET REGISTRY, OUR SYSTEM OF RECORD, IT ALSO LEADS TO THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF MISUSE AND WE CAN'T TRACK IT. 
          RIGHT? AND I HATE TO BRING IT BACK, BUT THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE'RE NOT REVIEWING THE TRANSACTIONS MONTHLY, RIGHT? SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, WE, WE MAKE THAT THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT FINDING BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S INDICATIVE OF A MORE SYSTEMATIC, UH, MESSAGE, WHICH IS THAT WE'VE GOT THROUGH OVER 300 ACTIVE FUEL CARDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE LEASED VEHICLE THAT WE'RE NOT TRACKING OR ASSOCIATED WITH A RETIRED VEHICLE THAT WE'RE ALSO NOT MONITORING MM-HMM . 
          SO AS TO THE 37, UH, WHERE THE VEHICLES LISTED AS SOLD OR RETIRED, DO WE KNOW WHO HAS POSSESSION OF THOSE CARDS? WE DO NOT HAVE THE DATA TO KNOW WHO, WHO THE ACTUAL EMPLOYEE THAT HAS THE, THE POSSESSION OF THOSE CARDS, WE WERE TOLD. 
          AND, AND I BELIEVE HE WOULD AGREE THAT THERE'S ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU SHOULD THINK OF IT AS A ONE-TO-ONE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A VEHICLE AND A CAR AND A CARD, NOT NECESSARILY AN EMPLOYEE AND A CARD. 
          UM, THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT WOULD BE RELATED TO WHEN THE FEW CASES WHERE WE GIVE CARDS FOR PU FOR POOL VEHICLES AND LEASED VEHICLES, UM, BUT THAT DATA IS NOT NECESSARILY CAPTURED IN THE M FIVE SYSTEM. 
          IT'S NOT CAPTURED IN THE VOYAGER SYSTEM, AND IT'S NOT CAPTURED IN THE OTHER SYSTEMS WE USE FOR THE AUDIT. 
          SO, SO IF I COULD JUST FINISH UP, UM, HAVE THESE 37 CARDS BEEN CANCELED OR THEY STILL ACTIVE OR WHAT? SO, SO WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENED UNDER THE OLD PROCESS IS WHEN A VEHICLE WAS RETIRED OR, OR, UH, ER WRECKED BEYOND REPAIR, THAT SORT OF THING, IT WAS UP TO THE USING DEPARTMENT TO TURN THE FUEL CARD IN TO BACK TO US AS, AS THE VEHICLE WAS RELEASED. 
          WE WEREN'T ALWAYS SEEN TIMELY, UH, UH, UH, IMPLEMENTATIONS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN RESPONSE IS WE PROCESS OUT THE PAPERWORK TO, TO REMOVE A VEHICLE FROM THE FLEET AND WE'RE THE FINAL APPROVER. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED IS WE NEED TO HAVE, IF THE PARTICULAR VEHICLE HAS A FUEL CARD IN SIGN ASSIGNED TO IT, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT FUEL CARD IN OUR HANDS BEFORE WE'LL PUT THE FINAL APPROVAL ON THE, UH, ON THE VEHICLE BEING DISPOSED IN ACCORDANCE WITH, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY FIVE DASH FIVE, THE DEPARTMENT FUEL CARD MANAGER. 
          SO THE PERSON SITTING IN DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBLE FOR FUEL CARDS, THEY ARE, THEY ARE TO RETRIEVE AND RETURN CARDS WHEN VEHICLES ARE SOLD, TRANSFERRED, TRANSFERRED, OR NOT NEEDED. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THE QUESTION WAS ARE THE CARDS STILL ACTIVE OR HAVE THEY BEEN CANCELED? UM, ANY CARD, WE LOOK AT THE, THE CARDS REGULARLY AND THOSE THAT, THAT DON'T HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT USE GET CANCELED AUTOMATICALLY. 
          UH, THOSE, ALL OF THOSE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED DISPOSAL PAPERWORK HAVE BEEN CANCELED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PINGER, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. 
          THE CARDS WERE ACTIVE AT THE TIME OF OUR AUDIT. 
          RIGHT, OKAY. 
          WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN, WE WERE LOOKING TWO YEARS IN ARREARS. 
          WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF A RETIRED VEHICLE? 
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UM, NO LONGER BEING USED, UH, FOR CITY SERVICES. 
          WERE ANY FUEL TRANSACTIONS FOR RETIRED VEHICLES? THERE, THERE WAS A COUPLE, I BELIEVE THAT WERE, THAT WERE FORMED AND, AND WHAT, SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE SPEND MONEY ON FUEL ON A CAR THAT'S NO LONGER BEING USED FOR THE CITY? SO VEHICLES WILL GET RETIRED AND NOT NECESSARILY REMOVED FROM CITY'S PROPERTY RIGHT AWAY. 
          SO THERE COULD BE CASES WHERE IF THE TRANSPORTING THE VEHICLE AND, AND, AND THIS HAPPENS FAIRLY FREQUENTLY. 
          LET'S SAY PUBLIC WORKS HAS A PICKUP TRUCK THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER USING, THEY PUT IT OUTTA SERVICE AND THAT TRUCK WILL SIT THERE AWAITING DISPOSAL, AND THEN LATER WE WILL HAVE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SAY WE'RE IN NEED OF A TRUCK, AND WE SHIP THOSE THINGS OVER. 
          SO WHEN THEY GET RETIRED, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY GET PUSHED OUT OF THE CITY SYSTEM IMMEDIATELY. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THE CAR ASSIGNED TO A DRIVER OR TO THE VEHICLE? TO THE VEHICLE? SO YOU HAVE MULTIPLE DRIVERS USING THE SAME CARD? YES, SIR. 
          THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME. 
          I I THINK YOU'D BE BETTER OFF HAVING THE DRIVER, I MEAN THE, THE CARD TIED TO AN EMPLOYEE SO THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW WHO THE EMPLOYEE IS THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. 
          IF YOU HAVE IT TIED TO THE CAR AND MULTIPLE EMPLOYEES USING IT, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO THE ISSUE BELONGS TO? WELL, THE EMPLOYEE'S SUPPOSED TO ENTER THEIR ID AT THE TIME OF, OF THE TRANSACTION AND, AND JUST FOR, FOR, AND IF THEY DON'T, WELL, AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WITH, WITH THE SAMSARA SYSTEM. 
          BUT, BUT JUST, JUST FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE, UH, LET'S, LET'S SAY A FIRE ENGINE, YOU CAN HAVE MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITHIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OPERATING THE SAME FIRE ENGINE, OKAY? MM-HMM . 
          I UNDERSTOOD. 
          BUT IF, IF YOU HAVE THE CARD TIED TO THE EMPLOYEE, YOU'RE ABLE TO TRACK BY EMPLOYEE WHENEVER THERE'S AN ISSUE. 
          IF YOU HAVE IT TIED TO THE VEHICLE AND YOU HAVE A HALF DOZEN PEOPLE USING THAT VEHICLE AND USING THAT CARD, YOU, YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF KNOWING WHO DID WHAT? WELL, I, I, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT, BUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF FUEL CARDS DEPLOYED. 
          A AGREED. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, BUT AGAIN, YOU WOULD HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHOSE CARD IT IS. 
          WELL, UH, I MEAN, THERE'S, THOSE CARDS COULD BE PASSED FROM DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS AS WELL, RIGHT? AGAIN, THAT'S 30 YEARS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT THEY WERE ASSIGNED TO A DRIVER. 
          THE DRIVER WAS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT CARD BECAUSE IT WAS HIS CARD, HIS PIN NUMBER, NOBODY ELSE HAD THAT CARD UNLESS HE GAVE IT TO HIM. 
          NOBODY ELSE HAD THAT PIN NUMBER UNLESS HE GAVE IT TO HIM. 
          SO IT SEEMS TO ME THE WAY YOU WANNA TRACK THIS IS BY INDIVIDUALS, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY HOLD THE INDIVIDUALS ACCOUNTABLE IF THERE'S AN ISSUE. 
          I MEAN, THE, THE WAY YOU'RE DOING IT NOW, YOU CAN'T HOLD ANYBODY ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANYTHING. 
          WELL, I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD GO THAT FAR. 
          I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT, THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO CERTAIN VEHICLES. 
          WE'VE GOT TRUCKS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO, TO STATIONS, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          AND, UH, AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT UPON OUR ABILITY TO TRACK THESE EXCEPTIONS. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, THE, UH, INVESTIGATIVE WORK GOES THROUGH THAT. 
          AND I THINK WE CAN TRACK DOWN THE, UH, THE OPERATOR IN MOST CASES. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THAT ONE. 
          COUNCILMAN FLICKINGER, LET ME ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION WITH THE COUPLE OF STATISTICS. 
          THERE WERE 1,286 ACTIVE CARDS DURING THE TIME OF THE AUDIT, WHICH WENT THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2024. 
          AS OF NOVEMBER 24TH, 2024, THERE WERE 89 FUEL CARDS LINKED TO VEHICLES THAT HAD BEEN LISTED AS SOLD OR RETIRED, WHETHER WITHIN THE SYSTEM OR IN A DATABASE THAT WAS MAINTAINED OUTSIDE OF THE SYSTEM. 
          DURING, UH, DURING THAT PERIOD, THERE WAS A TOTAL OF $7,813 THAT WERE PURCHASED WITH THOSE FUEL CARDS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE RETIRED VEHICLES. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S YOUR ANSWER. 
          IS THERE JUST ONE PERSON PER PER DEPARTMENT WHO'S MANAGING THE FUEL CARDS, IS WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE, I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT DOING EVERY SINGLE PERSON. 
          SO EACH DEPARTMENT HAS SOMEBODY DESIGNATED TO MANAGE OR MONITOR THE FUEL CARDS. 
          SO, SO IT REALLY VARIES BY DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, IN, IN, IN FIRE, IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT OVERSEES THE, UH, THE PROGRAM. 
          UH, BUT THAT ONE PERSON HAS MULTIPLE, UH, FLEET COORDINATORS THAT, UH, REPORT TO THEM. 
          UH, SIMILAR SITUATION IN, IN, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE A LOT MORE, UH, FLEET COORDINATORS EVERY, UH, UH, UH, STATION HAS SOMEBODY ASSIGNED. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS SOUNDS LIKE MORE, MORE DISCUSSION TO FOLLOW, BUT I APPRECIATE THE AUDIT VERY MUCH. 
          I HAVE NEVER SPENT ANY TIME ON FUEL CARS BEFORE THIS, 
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AND I'VE BEEN AT CITI A LONG TIME. 
          SO THIS IS INTERESTING AND I'M LEARNING A LOT. 
          AND, AND, UH, I'D LOVE, I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE SCOPE OF WORK OF ON THE SAMSARA, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT. 
          I THINK THAT MIGHT ILLUMINATE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS. 
          UM, BUT EVERYBODY, THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE ALMOST DONE. 
          WE HAVE PUBLIC SPEAKING LEFT AND WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          DOUG, DOUG SMITH. 
          BUT ANYBODY ELSE IS WELCOME TO SPEAK IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          BUT DOUG, COME ON UP. 
          IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU AND THANKS FOR BEING SO PATIENT AND SITTING THROUGH ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS. 
          I GUESS I SHOULD THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING PATIENT TOO, BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN HERE JUST AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE. 
          SO, UH, A COUPLE OF TAKEAWAYS, UH, FROM THE MEETING. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT SOMETHING IS BEING DONE WITH THE ERNST AND YOUNG STUDY STUDY AS OPPOSED TO A STUDY THAT WAS DONE A FEW YEARS AGO THAT MOST OF THE STUFF THAT THEY RECOMMENDED WAS NEVER IMPLEMENTED. 
          UH, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, AND I JUST DID SOME NUMBERS, UH, ON THE POLICE INFORMATION. 
          AND IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, EIGHT YEARS, THEY'VE LOST 130 EMPLOYEES. 
          THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PEOPLE THAT ADDED, UH, VERSUS THE ATTRITION. 
          SO IT'S NO WONDER THEY HAVE PROBLEMS. UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS TODAY WAS THE FACT THAT THE CONTROLLER HAS NOT BEEN COMING TO THESE MEETINGS, UH, WHICH I FIND TO BE AN AFFRONT TO YOU AS A COMMITTEE. 
          UH, CHRIS BROWN COME, CAME TO ALL OF THESE MEETINGS FOR THE EIGHT YEARS THAT HE WAS THE CONTROLLER, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING THROUGH THE MIND OF, UH, THE CURRENT CONTROLLER, BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S A PROBLEM. 
          AND I, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE I GOT AN EMAIL YESTERDAY FROM HIM. 
          I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY A, A EMAIL BLAST THAT WAS SENT. 
          AND A COUPLE OF COMMENTS IN THE EMAIL WERE, WE AIM TO BUILD TRUST AND ENSURE THAT EVERY ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS KNOWS HOW THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING USED TO GATHER. 
          WE ARE LAYING THE FOUNDATION FOR A STRONGER, MORE ACCOUNTABLE HOUSTON. 
          WELL, IF HE DOESN'T COME TO THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMITTEE IN THE CITY THAT RELATES TO HIS WORK, HE'S BLOWING THAT INFORMATION. 
          AND I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT. 
          AND UM, I HAVE A FEELING THAT, UH, WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR HIM TO CONSIDER RUNNING AGAIN, HE MAY HAVE SOME COMPETITION, UH, GIVEN THE FACT THAT HE'S REALLY NOT ADDRESSING SOMETHING THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF HIS JOB. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DOUG. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. 
          ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? ALRIGHT, COLLEAGUES, THANKS FOR HANGING IN. 
          WE ARE GOING TO MEET AGAIN ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER 9TH AT 10:00 AM HOUSTON FIRST WILL PRESENT THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET AND WE'LL CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION ON THE CIP AMENDMENTS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORTH AND PROCESSES TO IMPROVE THE CIP UM, PROCESS. 
          SO WITH NO OTHER COMMENTS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
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