* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Quality of Life Committee] [00:00:15] CHAIR OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE, AND I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. WE HAVE A LONG AGENDA AND NOT A MOMENT TO WASTE. UH, IT APPEARS THAT I'M THE ONLY COUNCIL MEMBER PRESENT, HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT ONLINE. THEY ARE COUNCIL MEMBER AMY PECK, AND THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT, JUST COUNCIL MEMBER PECK. AT THIS TIME, WE ALSO HAVE STAFF FROM DISTRICTS, B-E-H-I-J ONLINE, AND, UH, WE ARE NOW BEING JOINED BY STAFF FROM AT LARGE POSITION FIVE. SALLY KO'S OFFICE, HUFFMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBER HUFFMAN IS PRESENT AS WELL. AND, UH, STAFF FOR DISTRICT C IS HERE ALSO. AND COUNCIL MEMBER PLUMMER'S STAFF IS HERE AS WELL. SO, UM, THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE. AS I SAID, WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA. WE'RE GONNA TAKE UP THREE MAIN TOPICS. UM, I WILL NOTE THAT, UH, WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, UH, BUT WE'LL MEET ANYWAY. IT WILL BE INFORMATIONAL. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE TAKING ANY VOTES, UH, AT ANY RATE TODAY. SO OUR FIRST TOPIC IS GOING TO BE MUNICIPAL SETTINGS, DESIGNATIONS. I KNOW MOST OF YOU'RE PROBABLY HERE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BUT THIS WILL BE INFORMATIONAL. AND SO, UH, YOU CAN LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT HOW OUR GOVERNMENT WORKS. AND HERE TELL US ABOUT TWO APPLICATIONS FOR MUNICIPAL SETTING. DESIGNATIONS ARE CASSANDRA WALKER FROM OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND PAUL WILD. PAUL WILD, WILD ASSOCIATES FROM WILD ASSOCIATES. THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE. I WILL LET YOU GUYS PROCEED AS YOU WISH. FIELDS AND MSDS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR HOUSTON WATER. SORRY, THE MIC WASN'T WORKING. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? OKAY. I'M CASSANDRA WALKER. I'M ADMINISTRATION MANAGER. TURN IT ON. IT'S OFF. IT'S ON. OKAY. OKAY. UM, I'M CASSANDRA WALKER. I'M THE ADMINISTRATION MANAGER FOR BROWNFIELDS AND MSDS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR HOUSTON WATER. AND TODAY I AM PRESENTING TWO MSD APPLICATIONS. UM, ONE IS FOR IS MAIL CENTER, WHICH IS BEING PRESENTED BY MR. PAUL WILD. I ALSO HAVE, UH, FOR LEGAL, UH, CITY LEGAL IS MR. WYNN COLBERT AND HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY CITY, UH, LEGAL QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, MS. WALKER, CAN YOU PULL THAT MICROPHONE CLOSER? UH, SO THAT, OR I CAN SIT CLOSER TO IT? THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YOU OKAY. UM, AND SO WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS. WE HAVE, UH, GO FORTH PROPERTIES AS WELL. AND, UM, SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH THE PRESENTATION. NEXT SLIDE. UM, THE CITY OF HOUSTON, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE PROGRAMMATIC, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A PROGRAMMATIC EXPLANATION. THAT IS WHAT AN MSD IS, WHO THE MSD IMPACTS, THE STEPS IN THE MSD PRO PRO PROCESS. UM, THE APPLICANTS THAT WE HAVE ARE FOR 20 22, 1 65 IHI, WHICH IS 2323 ALLEN PARKWAY, UH, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE ISMA CENTER. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE 20 23 1 66 GSP, WHICH ARE GOFORTH PROPERTIES 65 25 GOFORTH 6 5 0 5 FOSTER STREET, ZERO FOSTER STREET, AND THEY'RE BOTH IN HOUSTON, TEXAS. WE HAVE NEXT SLIDE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IN TEXAS. THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS JURISDICTION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FOR THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENT EQUALITY. AND THAT IS TCEQ. IF YOU HAVE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLAINTS, TCEQ CONTACTS ARE ON YOUR SCREEN. YOU CAN REACH THEM BY PHONE AT +1 888-777-3186, OR ONLINE@WWW.TCEQ.TEXAS.GOV. FOR CITY OF HOUSTON, OUR CONTACTS [00:05:01] ARE THREE ONE ONE BY PHONE AND WWW.HOUSTONTX.GOV/ 3 1 1. NEXT SLIDE. WHAT IS AN MSD? AN MSD IS A VOLUNTARY DEED RESTRICTION THAT IS INITIATED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO PREVENT THE USE OF CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER. NO WATER WELLS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR DRINKING WATER PURPOSES. IT IS A LEGALLY BINDING WAY TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC IS NOT EXPOSED TO CONTAMINANTS. NEXT SLIDE. WHO THE MSD IMPACTS AN MSD DOES NOT AFFECT YOU. IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR PROPERTY. AN MSD DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR WATER WELL AND THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS ON YOU. DRINKING WATER SUPPLIED BY THE CITY IS NOT AFFECTED. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE MSD NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING BY ACON FOUNDATION. IT WAS PUBLICLY NOTIF. THE PUBLIC WAS NOTIFIED THE WELL OWNERS WITHIN A CERTIFIED MALE FIVE MILE RADIUS, WHICH IS A STATE REQUIREMENT, AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A HALF MILE RADIUS OF THE CITY REQUIREMENT ON MARCH THE FOURTH, 2025. AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A RADIO RADIUS MAP THAT IS SHOWING ALL OF THE PROPERTY THAT WAS ALL OF THE PROPERTY AND PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE NOTIFIED, AND THEY WERE NOTIFIED BY, UH, MR. WILD AND, UM, HIS COMPANY AS REPRESENTING AGA CON FOUNDATION. 2323 ALLEN PARKWAY WAS REPRESENTED BY PAUL WILD. AND THE BACKGROUND FOR 2323 ALLEN PARKWAY IS, IT IS A SITE THAT CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 11.8 ACRES OF GRASS COVERED LAND WITHIN ONE LAND PARCEL, AND IS OWNED BY AGA K FOUNDATION, USA, WITH ITS LOCAL ENTITY KNOWN AS AMARA HOUSTON. THE SITE IS TO BE DEVELOPED INTO THE ISRAELI CENTER, WHICH IT HAS BEEN, AND IT CONSISTS OF AN EDUCATIONAL, CULTURAL BUILDING, OUTREACH BUILDING WITH LANDSCAPE GROUNDS AND BELOW GROUND PARKING. THE SITE IS A HIGH, IN A HIGH RENT DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN HOUSTON AND IS SURROUNDED BY MIXED USE MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. A CEMETERY, A PUBLIC PARK BETWEEN THE SITE AND BUFFALO BAYOU. THE MAJOR DRAINAGE FEATURE WITHIN THE CITY IN JULY, 2021. NEXT SLIDE. IN JULY, 2021, THE TCEQ CONDUCTED AN EFFECTIVE PROPERTY ASSESSMENT REPORT RESULTING IN A REQUEST FOR MORE SOIL SAMPLING TO BE CONDUCTED. SEPTEMBER, 2021, WILD ASSOCIATES CONDUCTED THE REQUESTED WORK AND SUBMITTED A PAR R ADDENDUM NUMBER ONE. IN OCTOBER, 2021, TCEQ REQUESTED ADDITIONAL WELLS TO DELINEATE OFFSITE IMPACTED GROUNDWATER. JUNE, 2022, WILD ASSOCIATES CONDUCTED THE REQUESTED WORK AND SUBMIT SUBMITTED APAR. ADDENDUM NUMBER TWO IN JULY, 2022, TCEQ STATED THAT THE IMPACT OF GROUNDWATER PLUME HAD BEEN DELINEATED. TCEQ UNDERSTANDS THAT AGA CON FOUNDATION INTENDS TO DEVELOP A RESPONSE ACTION PLAN THAT ADDRESSES SOILS WITH CONTAMINANTS OF CONCERN ABOVE THE TOTAL SOIL COMBINED PCLS USING PHYSICAL CONTROLS. AND THE CONTAMINATED SOILS WERE EXCAVATED AND REMOVED BY THE APPLICANT PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION. SO PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE, THEY PHYSICALLY REMOVED ALL CONTAMINATED SOIL ON THIS SITE. THE A PAR CANNOT BE APPROVED UNTIL THE MSD IS APPROVED BY THE CITY OF HOUSTON. AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE PRESENTING TO YOU ALL TODAY. NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE IS THE PRE EXCAVATION OF THE SITE. IF YOU LOOK AND SEE THE RED, UM, BORDERED AREA IS THE TOTAL AREA, UM, THAT THE SITE IS ON. THE WHITE AREA IS THE EXCAVATION SITE. THAT IS A SITE THAT HAD THE CONTAMINATION AND THAT IS A SITE THAT THEY REMOVED THE CONTAMINATION, PHYSICALLY REMOVED THE CONTAMINATION FROM. SO NO, THERE IS NO MORE CONTAMINATION ON THAT SITE. SO LET ME INTERRUPT HERE. SO THE, UH, SQUIGGLY LINE THERE AT THE TOP, THAT'S ACTUALLY ALLEN PARKWAY, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, THE STREET BELOW IS GONNA BE, WHAT'S [00:10:01] THAT? UM, IT'S UH, WEST DALLAS. WEST DALLAS. AND THEN TO THE LEFT WOULD BE, UH, MONTROSE. THANK YOU. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE POST EXCAVATION, UM, SLIDE. AND IT SHOWS WHERE THEY HAVE REMOVED ALL OF THE CONTAMINATED SOIL. THE AREA BOARDED AND WHITE IS THE 170,000 CUBIC YARDS OF SOIL AND THE GROUNDWATER WITHIN THE SOIL, WHICH CONTAINED THE CONTAMINATION. SO ALL OF THAT WAS REMOVED. NOT ONLY WAS THE SOIL REMOVED, BUT ALL OF THE GROUND CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER WAS REMOVED AS WELL. AND THAT IS A CURRENT STATE OF THE AREA AS WE STAND TODAY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WILD COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN? THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH. JUST TO CONFIRM, THIS PROPERTY, UM, IS A REQUEST, UH, BY THE AGA CON FOUNDATION, BUT ALSO KNOWN AS THE AS SMILEY COMMUNITY CENTER. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. YES. AND THIS IS, UH, A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS AS IT PERTAINS TO, UH, COMMUNITY BENEFITS, UH, FROM EXTENDED TRAILS TO THE ACTUAL SPACES THAT THE GREATER HOUSTON PUBLIC IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ARE WELCOME. STAFF FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER EVANS SHABAZZ'S OFFICE. THANK YOU, CHAIR. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. QUICK QUESTION, THE CONTAMINANT IS SOIL 170,000, UM, WHERE CUBIC YARDS, CUBIC YARDS ONCE REMOVED. HOUSTON HAS A LOCATION FOR THAT TO BE TAKEN TO. YES. UH, WE NEGOTIATED A DEAL WITH REPUBLIC SERVICES, WHICH IS A LARGE LANDFILL, UH, OPERATION IN THIS AREA. THEY HAVE LANDFILLS THAT ARE PERMITTED BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY TO RECEIVE THE TYPES OF SOILS THAT CAME FROM THIS SITE. IT WAS A VERY, UH, METICULOUS, UH, PROCESS TO, UH, GET THE APPROVALS TO DO THAT. AND ALL OF THOSE SOILS HAVE BEEN, UH, ARE BEING HANDLED BY REPUBLIC SERVICES AT THEIR LANDFILLS. SO THEY'RE IN A, A PERMITTED FACILITY THAT TCEQ HAS SET IS ACCEPTABLE TO RECEIVE THOSE TYPES OF SOILS. THANK YOU. CHAIR. NO OTHER QUESTIONS IN THE QUEUE, BUT, UH, JUST TO REITERATE, UM, WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED, THE LANDOWNER VOLUNTARILY, UH, PLACED A DEED RESTRICTION ON IT LIMITING WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER COULD DO AND ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, WHO MIGHT COME LATER, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR FOREVER, UH, ESSENTIALLY, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND THAT ALLOWS THEM TO THEN, UH, DEVELOP THE PROPERTY THAT IS CORRECT, BUT NEVER TO PLACE WATER WELLS ON IT. NEVER . GREAT. THANK YOU. NEVER. YOU'LL MAY PROCEED WITH THE SECOND PROPERTY. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, NEXT WE HAVE GO FOURTH STREET. OKAY. AND THAT WILL BE REPRESENTED BY TREVOR COLE. UM, HE'S THE, OH, THERE YOU GO, . HE'S THE, UM, PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST. WELCOME. HELLO. THANK YOU. NEXT SLIDE. GO OVER HERE AND I GET MYSELF SET UP HERE. YOU READY? YEP. OKAY. THIS NEXT MSD, UM, APPLICANT IS FOR GOFOR PROPERTY. UM, AND IT IS REPRESENTED BY TREVOR COLE, WHICH YOU'RE SEEING ON YOUR SCREEN IS THE PUBLIC NOTICE THAT WAS MAILED OUT TO ALL OF THE WELL OWNERS WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, WITHIN A HALF MILE RADIUS OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE APPLICANT, UM, SUBMITTED THEIR, UH, MAP AND THEIR NOTICE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING. SO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER AND WELL OWNER WITHIN THOSE RADIO BOUNDARIES RECEIVE NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING. AND WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING AND NOW WE ARE HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING. NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S THE BACKGROUND ON GO FORTH. THE PROPERTY PROPERTY IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 1.6 MILES EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF INTERSTATE SIX 10 AND HIGHWAY 2 88. THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 1.2 [00:15:01] MILES SOUTH OF BRA BAYOU, WHICH GENERALLY RUNS EAST TO WEST. THE PRIVATELY OWNED PORTIONS OF THE DESIGNATED PROPERTY ARE CURRENTLY PARTICIPATING IN THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY VOLUNTARY CLEANUP PROGRAM, AND HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED V VP VCP ID NUMBER 3 2 0 7. THE TCEQ IS THE FINAL APPROVING AUTHORITY OF THIS VCP DRINKING WATER IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO THE PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN ONE HALF MILE RADIUS SURROUNDING THE DESIGNATED PROPERTY BY THE CITY OF HOUSTON PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM. THERE IS NO DOMESTIC OR COMMERCIAL WATER WELLS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE. FOR THE SITE INFORMATION ON FEBRUARY 24TH, 2022, THE PROPERTY WAS ACCEPTED INTO THE VCP AFTER IDENTIFICATION OF CHLORINATED SOLVENTS, CONS, CONSTITUENTS IN SOIL AND GROUNDWATER, AND TO A LESSER EXTENT, PETROLEUM RELATED COMPOUNDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE HISTORICAL OPERATIONS. NO MUNICIPALITIES OTHER THAN THE CITY OF HOUSTON HAVE CORPORATE LIMITS WITHIN ONE HALF MILE OF THE BOUNDARY OF THE DESIGNATED PROPERTY. I SEE YOU OVER THERE, . THE SITE INCLUDES PROPERTIES WHICH ENCOMPASSES THREE PROPERTIES, THREE PARCELS IN HOUSTON, HARRIS COUNTY, TOTALING 3.1271 ACRES LOCATED AT 6 5 2 5 GO FOURTH STREET, 6 5 0 5 FOSTER STREET AND ZERO FOSTER STREET. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE APPLICATION SITE AND THE MONITORING WELLS THAT WERE INSTALLED. THIS SHOWS THE CONTAMINATION LEVELS ARE DECREASING OVER TIME. THE YELLOW BORDER ARE LEVELS FOR JUNE, 2022, AND THE RED BORDERLINE ARE LEVELS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024. SO YOU CAN SEE THE GRADUAL DECREASING OF CONTAMINATION, UM, FROM THE YELLOW TO THE RED. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A INTERACTIVE SLIDE, IS TRANSITIONAL. AND SO, UM, FROM THE FIRST TRANSITION, HOUSTON HAS SHALLOW GROUNDWATER WATER SCATTERED ACROSS THE CITY. GIMME ONE SECOND TO GET MY SLIDE. NEXT TRANSITION. THIS SOURCE EVENTUALLY SEEPS THROUGH THE SOIL INTO THE SHALLOW GROUNDWATER ZONE AND CREATES A CONTAMINANT PLUME NEXT TRANSITION. ONCE THE SOURCE IS NO LONGER ACTIVELY CONTRIBUTING TO THE CONTAMINATION PLUME, EITHER FROM THE SOURCE BEING REMOVED OR FROM THE OPERATIONS CEASING FROM THE PROPERTY, IT BEGINS TO RETRACT. NEXT TRANSITION. TO DEFINE THE AREA OF THE PLUME, THE OWNER INSTALLS A NUMBER OF SAMPLING WELLS. NEXT TRANSITION. THE MSD PROGRAM ADDRESSES WATER THAT IS TYPICALLY 20 TO 60 FEET BELOW THE SURFACE. THIS GROUNDWATER IS NOT USED FOR DRINKING WATER. NEXT TRANSITION WATER'S DESIGN WATER WELLS DESIGNATED FOR DRINKING WATER ARE MUCH DEEPER. NEXT TRANSITION. THEY'RE GENERALLY 600 FEET OR MORE. QUARTERLY SAMPLING EVENTS HELP DETERMINE IF THE GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION IS DECREASING OR STABLE. NOW THAT THE OWNER KNOWS WHERE THE CONTAMINATION IS AND VERIFIES THAT IT IS DECREASING OR STABLE, THE OWNER CAN APPLY TO HAVE AN MSD RESTRICTION PLACED ON THE PROPERTY. THIS D RESTRICTION PROHIBITS THE USE OF GROUNDWATER TO EVER BE USED FOR DRINKING WATER. DURING THE MSD PROCESS, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUIRED TO VERIFY THAT THERE ARE STATE REGULATED PUBLIC WATER AVAILABLE TO THE SITE. THE OWNER CAN NOW COMFORTABLY PURSUE REDEVELOPING THE SITE WHILE ENSURING THE PUBLIC THAT CONTAMINATED WATER WILL NEVER BE USED. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR TREVOR REGARDING THE GO FORTH STREET, UH, CONTAMINATION AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY CONDUCTED TO REDUCE THE, UM, CHEMICAL CONTAMINANTS ON THAT SITE? MS. WALKER? I DON'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE QUEUE, SO YOU ANSWERED ALL OUR QUESTIONS. OH, WELL THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M GETTING BETTER. . NEXT SLIDE. [00:20:02] THIS NEXT SLIDE, UH, SHOWS, UM, I DON'T SEE IT ON MY SCREEN, IS IT? YEAH. CHEMICAL DEGRADATION. UM, AND THIS IS THE NATURAL ATTENUATION PROCESS, UM, WITH GO FORTH. THEIR PROCESS WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, A LOT DIFFERENT FROM THE AGA K FOUNDATION. AGA K PHYSICALLY REMOVED THE CONTAMINATED SOIL. UM, GOFOR IS ACTUALLY RELYING ON THE NATURAL ATTENUATION PROCESS, AND THIS IS ALSO A TRANSITIONAL SLIDE. AND USUALLY WHAT THEY HAVE IS A MOTHER CONTAMINANT. IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, THIS IS A SAMPLE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE. THIS IS NOT, THIS MAY NOT BE EXACTLY A CONTAMINANT THAT'S ON THIS SITE. SO WE START WITH PERCHLOROETHYLENE. NEXT TRANSITION THAT BIODEGRADES TO TRICHLORETHYLENE NEXT TRANSITION TRICHLORETHYLENE CAN DEGRADE INTO EITHER CYSTIC CHLOR, ETHYLENE, OR TRICHLORETHYLENE NEXT TRANSITION. THOSE TWO CAN BOTH DEGRADE TO VINYL CHLORIDE NEXT TRANSITION, WHICH THEN DEGRADES TO ETHYLENE NEXT TRANSITION, WHICH THEN DEGRADES TO CARBON DIOXIDE. NEXT SLIDE. , UM, CLEAN CLEANUP PROGRAMS ARE BASED ON PUBLIC EXPOSURE TO CONTAMINANTS AND REDUCING PUBLIC HEALTH RISKS. THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS THAT CONTAMINATION CAN ENTER INTO HUMAN BODIES OR ANIMAL BODIES. AND, UM, THAT'S EITHER INGESTION, INHALATION CONTACT, WHICH IS DERMAL SOIL, GROUNDWATER TO SURFACE WATER OR ECOLOGICAL. NEXT SLIDE. ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP. THE MSD IS ONLY ONE STEP IN THE CLEANUP PROCESS. AND MSD DOES NOT EXCUSE THE APPLICANT FROM REDUCING RISKS TO THE PUBLIC. RESPONSIBLE PARTIES ARE ALWAYS RESPONSIBLE. SO IF IN THE CASE OF SOMEONE INGESTING CONTAMINATED WATER ON THIS SITE, THE OWNER IS STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR, UM, WHATEVER CONSEQUENCES THAT MAY ARISE FROM THAT ACCIDENTAL INGESTION. UM, SO THE MSD IS JUST ONE STEP, UM, IN PREVENTING, UM, INGESTION OF CONTAMINANTS FROM A PROPERTY. IT'S NOT A CURE-ALL. NEXT SLIDE. THE CITY OF HOUSTON DOES REQUIRE APPLICANTS TO ENROLL IN STATE OR FEDERAL CLEANUP PROGRAMS. THOROUGH INVESTIGATION CONFIRMING THAT THE GROUNDWATER PLUME CONTAMINATION IS STABLE OR DECREASING. THE AND DELINEATED EXACT POSITION IS IDENTIFIED AS WE'VE SHOWED IN THE MAPS WHERE WE SHOWED THE ACTUAL LOCATION OF THE CONTAMINATION AND HOW IT IS EITHER DECREASING OR IT HAS BEEN REMOVED. UM, AND A THIRD PARTY ENGINEER, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER OR GEOLOGIST, WHICH WHICH IS WHICHEVER IS MUST CERTIFY THE APPLICATION. NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE THE, UH, STEPS IN THE PROCESS. UH, WE HAVE THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING. THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. WE REVIEW THE APPLICATION. WE HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING, THEN WE HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE NOW. AND WE RECEIVE COMMENTS IN BOTH THE PUBLIC MEETING AND THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, CITY COUNCIL CAN APPROVE OR DENY. THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW, APPROVE, OR DENY. UM, ONCE THAT, UH, PROCESS HAS TAKEN PLACE, THEN WE SUBMIT IT TO TCEQ, AND THEN TCQ HAS THEIR OWN ROUND OF HEARINGS AND COMMENTS AS WELL. UM, TCEQ IS THE FINAL PROVEN AUTHORITY OF THE MSD CERTIFICATION. AND THEN THE, OR THE ORDINANCE IS FILED ON THE DEED OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. REASON TO SUPPORT AN MSD, THEY PROTECT THE PUBLIC BY PROHIBITING THE CONS, PROHIBITING THE CONSUMPTION OF CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER. THEY ENCOURAGE THE, LET ME INTERRUPT. WE NEED TO MOVE TO, THERE WE GO. I, OH, . SORRY. UM, THEY PROTECT THE PUBLIC BY PROHIBITING THE CONSUMPTION OF CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER. THEY ENCOURAGE CLEANUP OF CONTAMINATED SITES AND THEY PROMOTE REDEVELOPMENT OF UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTIES. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A OVERALL MAP VIEW OF ALL OF THE MSD SITES IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON. AND THESE ARE SITES THAT HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED FOR MSDS. NEXT SLIDE. BOTH THE APPLICATIONS, THE PHYSICAL APPLICATIONS THAT FOUNDATION AND GOLD FOREST STREET HAVE PRESENTED. UM, THE HARD COPIES, JUST IN CASE SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE ELECTRONIC COPIES, ARE [00:25:01] AT THEIR LOCAL LIBRARIES. THE FOUNDATION'S, UH, HARD COPY IS AT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN LIBRARY. GREGORY AT 1300 VICTOR STREET IN HOUSTON, 7 7 0 1 9. AND GO FORTH PROPERTIES IS AT THE ALICE MCKEAN YOUNG NEIGHBORHOOD LIBRARY AT 5 1 0 7 GRIGGS ROAD. THAT'S ALSO IN HOUSTON 7 7 0 2 1. AND THEY'RE ALSO AVAILABLE ONLINE@HOUSTONPUBLICWORKS.ORG SLASH MUNICIPAL SETTINGS DESIGNATION. NEXT SLIDE. MY CONTACT INFORMATION IS ON YOUR SCREEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UM, I'M LOCATED IN THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ON WASHINGTON STREET ON THE THIRD FLOOR. UM, MY DIRECT EMAIL IS ON THE SCREEN. OUR TEAM EMAIL IS ON THE SCREEN AS WELL. AND MY NUMBER IS THERE. AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, A QR CODE AND WEBSITE INFORMATION. NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU. THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION. ALRIGHT, LET, LET ME CATCH UP AND NOTE THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN IS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, DAVIS IS HERE AS WELL. VIRTUALLY WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS PRESENT. SO TECHNICALLY WE HAVE A QUORUM. NOW I ALSO WANNA NOTE WE'VE ADDED SOME STAFF FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO'S, OFFICE COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER'S OFFICE COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MARTINEZ, OFFICE COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR PROAM, CASTEX TATUM. AND I THINK THAT COVERS IT. AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ALCORN HAS JOINED US AS WELL. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF STAFF IN THE QUEUE. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER OR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER EVAN SHABAZZ. STAFF. THANK YOU, CHAIR. GOOD AFTERNOON, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. MAY I PLEASE GO BACK TO PAGE 16? SURE. AS I LISTENED TO YOUR, UH, DISCUSSION OR PRESENTATION, EXCUSE ME, ON THE DEGRADATION OF THE CONTAMINANTS MM-HMM . YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA ALLOW THAT TO BE A NATURAL PROCESS. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT? YES, SIR. SO THE, THE CONTAMINANT AT THIS SITE IS THE CHLORINATED SOLVENT CONSTITUENT TRICHLOROETHYLENE, WHICH IS THE SECOND, UH, PRODUCT ON THIS SCREEN THAT YOU SEE HERE. AND TO GO FROM TRICHLOROETHYLENE TO CARBON DIOXIDE CAN VARY ON TIMESCALES DEPENDING UPON THE AMOUNT OF OXYGEN THAT'S IN THE GROUND AND OTHER CHEMICAL PROPERTIES. UM, AND THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UM, WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING THE SITE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS AND HAVE SEEN ENOUGH ATTENUATION TO SHOW YOU THE GRAPHIC THAT SHOWED A DECREASE. BUT ULTIMATELY IT CAN PROBABLY TAKE ON THE ORDER OF TENS OF YEARS. SO IT COULD TAKE I SAY IT AGAIN. HOW LONG? TENS OF YEARS. TENS OF YEARS. YEAH. SO 10, 10 YEARS OR MORE. SO CONSTRUCTION WILL OR WILL NOT TAKE PLACE WITHIN THAT 10 YEAR PROCESS. AT THIS POINT, THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT THERE WILL BE CONSTRUCTION AT THE SITE. THE SITE IS FULLY DEVELOPED AS A COMMERCIAL FACILITY AND WILL LIKELY CONTINUE TO REMAIN COMMERCIAL. THANK, THANK YOU CHAIR. YOU BET. UM, PURITA FROM MAYOR PRO TEM CASTEX, TATUM'S OFFICE. THANK YOU CHAIR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, QUESTION. SO WHILE THAT IN, IN REFERENCE TO THE GOFORTH, UH, PROPERTY, ARE THERE SIGNS LIKE, UH, WARNING SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY? NO, THERE ARE NO WARNING SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY. OKAY. AND I ASKED THAT 'CAUSE YOU SAID, UH, PO POSSIBLE EXPOSURE WOULD BE INGESTION, UM, OF THE WATER AND SO FORTH. SO THERE'S NOTHING JUST TO LET SOMEONE ON THE PROPERTY KNOW THAT. SO IT'S, THAT'S POSSIBLE CONTAMINATION. SO, UM, THE ENTIRE AREA IS PROVIDED DRINKING WATER, POTABLE DRINKING WATER BY THE CITY OF HOUSTON. SO THERE IS REAL, NO, THERE'S NO REAL EXPOSURE TO INGESTION OF THE GROUNDWATER UNLESS A WELL WERE TO BE DRILLED AND SOMEBODY WERE TO DRINK FROM THAT. WELL, BUT THE HOPE WITH THIS MSD APPLICATION IS TO PRECLUDE THAT BY BANNING ANY, UH, INSTALLATION OF MONITORING WELLS IN THE FUTURE SO THAT NO DRINKING COULD OCCUR. OKAY, THANKS. ALRIGHT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE, WE WILL SAY THANK YOU AND, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO CONSIDERING THIS, THESE ITEMS AT CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PUBLIC SERVICES CONTRACTS. AND WE HAVE SOME FOLKS FROM THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HERE INVITE YOU TO COME UP. AND WE HAVE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MELODY BARR HERE FOR ON BEHALF OF DIRECTOR MIKE NICHOLS. AND SO, UM, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, I'LL TURN IT OVER [00:30:01] TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, I, UM, SO A QUESTION. DO YOU WANT ME JUST TO PRINT, PRESENT ALL THREE AND THEN WE COME BACK FOR QUESTIONS? THAT'S FINE. OKAY. SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH ITEM THREE A. THE DEPARTMENT IS PRESENTING BEFORE COMMITTEE, A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT FOR STRATEGIC HOMELESS PLANNING SERVICES WITH THE COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS OF HOUSTON HARRIS COUNTY. WE OFTEN REFER TO THEM AS THE COALITION TO EXTEND THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT AND PROVIDE UP TO AN ADDITIONAL $130,000 IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR STRATEGIC HOMELESS PLANNING SERVICES. NOW THIS PROJECT PROVIDES DATA AND ANALYSIS TO SUPPORT THE CITY OF HOUSTON. AND ITS FOLLOWING ADMINISTRATIVE AND PLANNING ACTIVITIES. ONE, PREPARING REPORTS, OTHER DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE CITY'S PROGRAMS FOR SUBMISSION TO HUD, INCLUDING THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN, THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, THE CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION REPORT, OFTEN REFERRED TO AS THE CAPER. THEY, WE DO A REGULAR CAPER AND WE ALSO DO A HOPWA CAPER MONITOR PROGRAM, ACTIVITIES FOR PROGRESS AND COMPLIANCE OF PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS, EVALUATING PROGRAM RESULTS, PREPARING PROGRAMS, BUDGET SCHEDULES, AMENDMENT AS NEEDED, UM, PERFORM THE HUD REQUIRED POINT IN TIME, COUNT EVERY JANUARY, AND REPORT ON THE COMMUNITY'S IMPACT ON HOMELESSNESS AFTER ANALYSIS IS COMPLETE. UM, THEY ALSO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MONITOR STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON. THIS AMENDMENT EXTENDS THE CONTRACT UNTIL MAY 31ST, 2026. TODAY WE HAVE KELLY YOUNG, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. ITEM THREE B, THE DEPARTMENT IS PRESENTING BEFORE COMMITTEE, A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE SUB-RECIPIENT AGREEMENT WITH SEARCH HOMELESS SERVICES TO EXTEND THE, TO EXTEND THE TIME OF PERFORMANCE TO JANUARY 31ST, 2026, AND PROVIDE UP TO AN ADDITIONAL $1,111,687 FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND OPERATION OF THE SEARCH ENGAGEMENT CENTER. THIS FUNDING WILL PROVIDE SERVICES UP TO, FOR UP TO 707 HOUSEHOLDS, INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES. THIS FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF THREE FUNDING STREAMS, $611,687 IN CDBG FUNDS. $400,000 IN HOMELESS HOUSING SERVICES PROGRAM FUNDS. THESE ARE STATE OF TEXAS FUNDS AND $100,000 IN TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE FUNDING. THE SERVICES UNDER THIS AGREEMENT INCLUDE ENGAGEMENT, WHICH IS WHERE SEARCH STAFF CONNECT DIRECTLY WITH CLIENTS AND PERFORM HOUSING ASSESSMENTS FOR THOSE CLIENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN HOUSING. THE ENGAGEMENT CENTER IS A DAY SHELTER THAT SERVES AS AN ENTRY POINT OR FRONT DOOR FOR THE CONTINUUM OF SERVICES THAT FACILITATE MOVEMENT TOWARDS STABILIZED EMPLOYMENT, HOUSING, AND SELF-SUFFICIENCY HOUSING CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES. ONCE A CLIENT IS INTERESTED IN HOUSING, OFTEN REFERRED TO BY OTHER, UM, AGENCIES, UM, SEARCH WILL THEN, UM, THESE SERVICES INCLUDE THE WRAPAROUND ONSITE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES CONSISTING OF TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE, LIFE SKILLS, EDUCATION, SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICES, ASSISTANCE WITH DISABILITY APPLICATIONS, AND LINKAGE TO OTHER COMMUNITY RESOURCES. THEY ALSO, UM, ENGAGE IN NAVIGATION WHERE SEARCH SEARCH HOUSING NAVIGATORS SUPPORT THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM AND WORK WITH CLIENTS ASSIGNED TO THEM BY THE COORDINATED ENTRY. SEARCH NAVIGATORS WORK WITH CLIENTS SEEKING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THERE'S INTEGRATED HEALTHCARE ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AGREEMENT THROUGH HEALTHCARE FOR THE HOMELESS HOUSTON. CLIENTS THAT ARE LOCATED AT TWO TO THREE LOCATIONS ARE PROVIDED HEALTHCARE SERVICES. THIS PORTION OF THE PROGRAM WAS DESIGNED TO REDUCE EMERGENCY ROOM USAGE AMONG HOMELESS PERSONS. THOSE HEALTHCARE SERVICES INCLUDE, UM, HEALTH EDUCATION PREVENTION, COORDINATION AND INTERVENTION THAT'S PROVIDED BY A REGISTERED NURSE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO PEER SERVICES AND THE PEER RECOVERY SPECIALISTS, OUR SEARCH STAFF WHO USE THEIR OWN LIVED EXPERIENCE OF SUBSTANCE USE AND OR MENTAL HEALTH RECOVERY TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH SUPPORT TOWARDS RECOVERY GOALS. OUR LAST ITEM IS ITEM THREE C, AND THE DEPARTMENT IS PRESENTING BEFORE COMMITTEE A SUB-RECIPIENT AGREEMENT WITH SEARCH HOMELESS SERVICES FOR PROVIDING UP TO $925,000 IN EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS. GRANT, RAPID UNSHELTERED SURVIVOR HOUSING FUNDS, ALSO REFERRED TO AS ESG RUSH FOR THE OPERATIONS OF A RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM. THIS FUNDING WILL PROVIDE RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND CASE MANAGEMENT TO 40 HOUSEHOLDS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IMPACTED BY THE RECENT DISASTERS, BOTH DICHO AND BARROW. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE ESG RUSH FUNDING IS A SPECIAL ESG GRANT ADMINISTERED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT FOR AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS ELIGIBLE FOR FEMA. UH, THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE WHEN A MAJOR DISASTER IS [00:35:01] DECLARED UNDER THE STA ACT TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS OR AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS IN A, IN A DECLARED DISASTER AREA, AND HAVE NEEDS UNMET BY EXISTING FEDERAL DISASTER RELIEF PROGRAMS. THESE FUNDS WERE AWARDED DUE TO DIRE AND BARREL IN MARCH OF 2025. IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HARRIS COUNTY COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS. THE CITY INVITED ORGANIZATIONS TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS UNDER THE REQUEST FOR EXPRESSION OF INTEREST, OR REI SEARCH IS ONE OF THE AGENCIES THAT RESPONDED AND WAS SELECTED FROM THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING RAPID REHOUSING ACTIVITIES. MORE AGENCIES WILL BE PRESENTED IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS. AND TODAY WE HAVE ALEXIS LOVING PRESIDENT AND CEO LARRY KRAUS, VICE PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT GRANTS, AND KELLY WARD, THE MANAGEMENT, THE MANAGER OF ENGAGEMENT AND STABILIZATION. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR BARR. UM, QUICK QUESTION. PREVIOUSLY WE'D REQUESTED CASE MANAGEMENT RESULTS AND OUTCOME DATA TRACKING FOR ITEM B AND, UH, WONDERING WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT IS. SO FOR ITEM B, WE DID PROVIDE EARLIER SOME INFORMATION AS TO THE NUMBERS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE RECEIVING CASE MANAGEMENT. AND I THINK WHEN WE SPOKE, AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UM, THE INFORMATION ON THE DATA POINTS THAT WERE REQUESTED WAS LOOKING AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE TOUCHED WITH ENGAGEMENT SERVICES, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS. IS THAT CORRECT? UH, OUTCOME, UH, DATA WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL. SO NOT JUST INDIVIDUALS TOUCHED, BUT WHAT ACTUALLY WERE THEY HOUSED? RIGHT? BECAUSE THE, UH, THE SLIDE I THINK THAT I WAS LOOKING AT SAYS SEARCH MET 144% OF THE GOAL. WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? SO THEY TOUCHED, THEY TOUCHED THEIR GOALS. RIGHT. AND SO ENGAGEMENT SERVICES ARE THE ENTRY POINT TO OUR SYSTEM. AND SO WHAT WE'RE OFFERING UNDER THIS AGREEMENT IS HOW MANY, UM, INDIVIDUALS DID, DID SEARCH TOUCH, RIGHT? AND SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TOUCHES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR SERVICES TO, TO PLACE. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUTCOMES, ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT WAS, UM, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE BY NAME LIST. SO WHEN SOMEONE DOES OUTREACH, THEY GO AND THEY MEET SOMEBODY WHO IS ON THE STREET. AND THEN ENGAGEMENT IS THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ON THE STREET, THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HOMELESS COME TO SEARCH TO ACTUALLY ASK FOR ASSISTANCE TO SEEK ASSISTANCE. AND IT MAY NOT BE HOUSING, IT COULD BE SIMPLY, I WANNA TALK TO SOMEBODY, I NEED FOOD, I NEED CLOTHING OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. ONCE THAT RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN BUILT, THEN THE SEARCH, UM, ENGAGEMENT CENTERS STARTS TO WORK WITH THEM ON HOW TO GET THEM INTO HOUSING, HOW TO GET THOSE SERVICES. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUTCOME DATA, WE DID LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND SO FROM, UM, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE SERVICED, WE HAVE 161, WHICH IS 21% OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE SERVED LAST YEAR OR THAT WERE TOUCHED WITHIN THE LAST 12 MONTHS ARE ON THE BY NAME LIST. SO THEY'RE WAITING FOR HOUSING. WE HAVE THEM, UM, ASSESSED FOR HOUSING FOR THEIR ELIGIBILITY. AND SO NOW WE'RE WAITING FOR A SPOT TO OPEN TO GET THEM HOUSED. UM, WE HAVE, I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT 13 INDIVIDUALS WERE PLACED IN HOUSING, FIVE WERE IN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, EIGHT AND RAPID REHOUSING. UM, SO THERE'S, SO THERE'S THE NUMBER OF DATA POINTS THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU. IT'S JUST WHAT TYPE OF OUTCOME DO YOU WANT FROM ENGAGEMENT? AND, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT FIGURING OUT WHAT KIND OF REPORT IS MOST USEFUL. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ENGAGEMENT, AGAIN, IT'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES. 'CAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT IS HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS WE'RE ACTUALLY SERVICED AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET INTO SERVICE. AND I HAVE THAT NUMBER HERE TOO. UM, AND I WANNA SAY IT WAS CLOSE TO 700 INDIVIDUALS OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE TOUCHED WITH ENGAGEMENT RECEIVED SOME TYPE OF SERVICE, WHETHER IT BE TRANSPORTATION, FOOD, UH, CASE MANAGEMENT, RIGHT? WELL, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SERVICES ARE PROVIDED. AND SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS RECEIVED WHAT TYPE OF SERVICE MM-HMM . AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF RECEIVING THOSE SERVICES. FOR INSTANCE, JOB HELP IS GIVEN HOW MANY FOLKS WERE ABLE TO GET JOBS AFTER THAT, UM, DIRECTION TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE HELPED BY THAT AND SO FORTH. SO, SO THAT KIND OF INFORMATION I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL AT THIS POINT. SURE. YEAH. IF I COULD JUST GET EITHER WE CAN SIT DOWN AND WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THE DATA POINTS THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO, OR IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC DATA POINTS THAT YOU WANT. UM, I THINK THAT IS HELPFUL. OKAY. LET'S DO THAT. WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN IN THE KEY QUEUE, SO WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, [00:40:01] THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. UH, ONE, THE WORK THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING, BUT ALSO, UM, THE RECOGNITION OF THE CRITICAL WORK THAT SEARCH IS DOING. SO TO ALL OF THE STAFF, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOU AND WE SEE THE WORK THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING AND HAVE BEEN DOING DESPITE, UM, THE LACK OF FUNDING, UH, AND SITUA CHALLENGE THAT WE FIND OURSELF IN. SO I THINK MY FIRST QUESTION, JUST IN SUMMARY, WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY A $2 MILLION OVERALL ALLOCATION CORRECT. DIRECTLY TO SEARCH. AND IS THERE A REASON, UM, THROUGH THE WAY HOME, THROUGH COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS, THAT NOW WE'RE GOING DIRECTLY TO SEARCH VERSUS THROUGH, UM, ENTITIES, WE'D PREVIOUSLY KIND OF MY UNDERSTANDING WAS GIVEN THE MONEY TO, AND THEN THEY'RE GIVING THAT MONEY OUT, OR IS THAT NOT THE CASE? THAT'S THE, WE'VE THE CASE, WE'VE ALWAYS DIRECTLY GIVEN TO SEARCH. YES. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. MY BAD. UH, DO YOU HAVE A RECORD? UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS A VERY HELPFUL, UH, AND MEANINGFUL INFLUX OF FEDERAL DOLLARS PREVIOUSLY. YES. UH, THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC. UH, THE CITY OF HOUSTON ALSO CONTRIBUTED, UH, ARPA DOLLARS, I BELIEVE, TO ADDRESS, UH, CRITICAL HOUSING AND HOMELESS NEEDS. DO YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AS TO WHAT PREVIOUSLY THE CITY OF HOUSTON, UH, HAD ALLOCATED IN TERMS OF ARPA DOLLARS? I DO NOT HAVE THEM WITH ME AT THIS MOMENT, BUT YES, WE CAN GET YOU A TOTAL ALLOCATION OF ARPA AND THERE'S DIFFERENT ARPAS, JUST TO BE CLEAR. SO THERE WAS THE ARPA THAT CAME DIRECTLY TO THE CITY OF HOUSTON THAT THE ADMINISTRATION MANAGED. CORRECT. UM, AND THERE WAS SOME FUNDING THAT DID ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS FROM THAT. WE ALSO HAVE HOME A RP FUNDS, WHICH WE CURRENTLY, UM, ARE UTILIZING NOW WITH OUR NEW SYSTEM. AND THOSE WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL SOON. AND THEN THERE WAS, UM, SOME COVID DOLLARS, WHICH IS PART OF CARES ACT. RIGHT. AND SOMETIMES GETS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED WITH ARPA FUNDS, BUT WE DO HAVE AN ACCOUNT OF ALL THOSE. YEAH. IF WE COULD AS COUNCIL HAVE THAT. 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS AND I THINK IT REFLECTS, UM, THE, THE, NOT TO USE A POLITICALLY CHARGED WORD, BUT THE SHORTFALL THAT NOW SEARCH AND OTHERS FIND THEMSELVES IN, BECAUSE THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS HAVE DRIED UP. I KNOW WE WERE AT AN EVENT WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE GAP IN DOLLARS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE UP OR SEARCH NEEDS TO MAKE UP IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL. SO HAVING THAT CITY ACCOUNTING OF THE CARES DOLLARS, ARPA DOLLARS, AND THE DIFFERENCE MM-HMM . WOULD, WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME. UH, THE, AND THEN JUST AN UPDATE AT SOME POINT FROM SEARCH, OBVIOUSLY THIS 2 MILLION WILL GO A VERY LONG WAY. HOW SHORT ARE WE STILL, HOW, HOW IS SEARCH DOING IN THEIR FUNDRAISING, UM, TO MAKE UP KIND OF THAT GAP THAT WE, WE'VE LOST IN TERMS OF FEDERAL FUNDING? AND IF THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS CURRENTLY WITH THE ADDITIONAL FEDERAL CUTS THAT WE'RE SEEING, THOSE GRANTS THAT WE MAY BE LOSING, UH, TO SEARCH TO OTHERS HOW, WHAT THE FEDERAL IMPACTS THERE ARE AS WELL. SO I CAN, I CAN PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION ON A SYSTEM PERSPECTIVE VERSUS JUST SEARCH NOTHING. YOU, AND, UM, PERHAPS YOU AND ALEXIS CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ON THE, THEY'RE NODDING AND THAT'S WHY I'M, AGAIN, I KNOW Y'ALL AREN'T NECESSARILY SPEAKING TODAY, BUT IF THIS IS MY WAY OF ASKING YOU ALL, IF Y'ALL COULD LET US KNOW HOW WE'RE DOING AND WHAT'S NEEDED RIGHT NOW AND THE IMPACTS OF THE CURRENT FEDERAL CUTS, UH, AND GRANTS, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL. BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO HELPFUL. AND, AND COUNCIL RAMIREZ, LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE OVERALL IMPLICATIONS OF THOSE CUTS YES. TO THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. AND SO WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD SINCE 2011 TO CREATE THE WAY HOME SYSTEM AND, AND THE WAY WE FUND, THE WAY WE PUT PROJECTS TOGETHER IS ALL IN A COORDINATED EFFORT THROUGH THE COALITION, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO IN THE FUTURE. IF YOU'D LIKE CHAIR, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE FINE. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, OUR MEETING FOR NEXT MONTH WILL INCLUDE DIRECTOR NICHOLS UPDATING ON HOW THE HOMELESSNESS PLAN IS GOING. BUT NO QUESTION. I MEAN, WE RAN OUT OF HOUSING VOUCHER FUNDS LAST YEAR AND THAT HAS CAUSED OUR HOMELESS NUMBERS TO JUMP. AND SO IT'S NOT, NOT GOTTEN ANY BETTER THIS YEAR, UNFORTUNATELY. BUT WE CAN, WE CAN DELVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. ABSOLUTELY. MM-HMM . SO WE'RE COUNCIL MEMBER. ALRIGHT. I, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE, SO I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU DIRECTOR BARR. AND LET ME ALSO THANK FOLKS FROM SEARCH AND COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS, FOR THE WORK YOU DO. WE SEE YOU AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO, UH, THE THIRD PART OF OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS SHORT TERM RENTAL AMENDMENTS. AND SO, UM, [00:45:02] THE ITEM, THE PROPOSED SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE WAS ON THE AGENDA LAST WEEK AND A NUMBER OF, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WERE SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THEN ALL THE ITEMS WERE TAGGED SO THAT WE COULD, UH, DIGEST THEM AND THE PUBLIC COULD DIGEST THEM AND OFFER COMMENTS AND SO FORTH. AND SO THE ITEM IS AGAIN, ON THE AGENDA THIS WEEK. AND SO WE ARE GONNA GO OVER SOME OF THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE OFFERED AT THE TABLE LAST WEEK. UM, MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN, COUNCIL MEMBER CAMAN JOINTLY OFFERED, UH, A GROUP OF THEM AND WE WILL GO OVER THEM. SO WE'LL START WITH, WITH THAT. UM, LET'S GO TO AMENDMENT, PROPOSED AMENDMENT ONE A. SO THE SUMMARY OF THIS, AND, AND LET ME ASK AT THIS POINT, WHO IS, IS, DO WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE FROM A RA OR, OR NOT ANYONE HERE FROM A RA GREAT DIRECTOR? PEZ IS, IS HERE. I SEE YOU BACK THERE. AND HOW ABOUT LEGAL? ANYONE HERE FROM LEGAL? YES. OKAY. UH, RASHAD IS, RASHAD GRE IS HERE AS WELL. GREAT. YEAH, WE NEED YOU. YEAH. AND DIRECTOR PAEZ, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME FORWARD IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND, , I KNOW YOU DIDN'T ANTICIPATE GETTING PUT ON THE HOTSPOT, BUT, UH, YOUR, YOUR EXPERTISE MIGHT COME IN HANDY HERE, OR I TELL YOU WHAT, OR AS AS COUNCIL MEMBER CAME, HAS POINTED OUT A STAFF MEMBER WOULD BE SUFFICIENT AS WELL. . THANK YOU. AND SO, AMENDMENT ONE, A SUMMARY OF IT IS IT WOULD PLACE THE BURDEN TO APPLY FOR A CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION ON THE OPERATOR, WHICH IN MANY CASES, UM, RENT BY OWNER WILL BE THE OWNER, IN FACT. SO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE PLACES THIS BURDEN CURRENTLY ON THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. AND, UM, THIS AMENDMENT ONE A WOULD, UH, REDEFINE APPLICANT TO MEAN THE OPERATOR OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL WHO APPLIES FOR A CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION. PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS ARTICLE, AND IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, REGISTRATION REQUIRED EACH OPERATOR OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS SHALL REGISTER THEIR SHORT-TERM RENTAL WITH THE CITY IN THE MATTER PRESCRIBED IN THIS CODE. AND SO, UH, THE THINKING BEHIND THIS AMENDMENT WAS THAT THE OPERATOR, WHICH WILL SOMETIMES BE THE OWNER, IS GOING TO BE THE PARTY CLOSEST TO THE ACTION. SO, SO TO SPEAK. AND IF WE ARE LOOKING TO, UH, GET, UH, SOME REMEDY, GET SOME ACTION TAKEN, WE WOULD PROBABLY, UH, HAVE MORE LUCK REACHING OUT TO THE OPERATOR. OWNERS ARE, ARE OFTENTIMES PASSIVE, IF YOU WILL. SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT EVEN LOCATED IN THE CITY AND, UH, REQUIRING THEIR ACTIVE PARTICIPATION, UH, MIGHT NOT BE EFFECTIVE AND EFFECTIVE MEANS OF COMBATING SOME OF THE ISSUES WE MOST COMMONLY SEE WITH, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND SO, UM, BASED ON DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD PRIOR, UH, TO THE MEETING LAST WEEK, WENT AHEAD AND INCLUDED AMENDMENT ONE B. SO IF WE CAN GO TO THAT AMENDMENT ONE B AND, AND, UH, THE INTENT HERE IS THAT BOTH OF THESE WOULD BE CONSIDERED, ONLY ONE WOULD BE ADOPTED, UH, IF COUNCIL CHOSE NOT TO ADOPT THE LANGUAGE IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED ORDINANCE. SO ONE B, A SUMMARY WOULD PLACE THE BURDEN TO APPLY FOR C OR A CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION ON THE OPERATOR OR THE OWNER. AND LOOKING FURTHER THERE, IT WOULD DEFINE APPLICANT AS THE OWNER OR OPERATOR OF A SHORT, SHORT-TERM RENTAL WHO APPLIES FOR A CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION. AND IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT WOULD SAY EACH OWNER OR OPERATOR OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATING WITH THE CITY LIMITS SHALL REGISTER THEIR SHORT-TERM RENTAL WITH THE CITY. AND I, UM, DIRECTOR PAEZ OR, UM, COUNSEL GAMBRELL, IF EITHER ONE OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO OFFER COMMENT HERE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, UH, I THINK IN THE RESPONSE THAT WE GAVE TO YOU, WE SUPPORT, UM, AMENDMENT ONE B. WE CANNOT SUPPORT AMENDMENT ONE A. MM-HMM . THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD [00:50:01] LIKE TO KEEP THE WORD OWNER IN THERE. IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO ADD OWNER OR OPERATOR. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. UH, KARA TO ADD ANY RATIONALE FOR THAT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT, UM, WELL, I, I ECHO WHAT THE, WHAT THE DIRECTOR SAYS. UM, I THINK THROUGHOUT THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, THERE ARE MULTIPLE PROVISIONS THAT REFERENCE THIS TYPE OF OWNER AND OR OPERATOR LANGUAGE. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, SOBS, UM, OWNERS AND OPERATORS ARE RESPONSIBLE TAXI CABS. WHEN WE ISSUE PERMITS, REGARDLESS OF WHO'S AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR WHO MAY BE DRIVING THE VEHICLE, THE PERMIT HOLDER IS RESPONSIBLE. UM, I REACHED OUT TO MUNICIPAL PROSECUTION ABOUT THIS. CANDIDLY, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. MM-HMM . THEY INDICATED THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEM WITH PROSECUTING WITH THIS TYPE OF LANGUAGE, THE OWNER OR THE OPERATOR LANGUAGE IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. UM, AND THEN I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE. AND SAN ANTONIO, AUSTIN, GALVESTON, KEA, IRVING, TEXAS, ARLINGTON, TEXAS, CORPUS CHRISTI, NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, HILTON HIT, SOUTH CAROLINA, SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA, OCEANSIDE, CALIFORNIA, ALL OF THEM HAVE SOME LANGUAGE SIMILAR TO THIS WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE OWNER OR THE OPERATOR. UNDERSTANDING THAT OPERATOR IS NOT NECESSARILY A TERM THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UBIQUITOUS ACROSS ALL THE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. SO I, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS LANGUAGE IS A PROBLEM AT ALL. UM, AND AS THE DIRECTOR SAID, I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION SEEMS TO BE FIRM ABOUT WANTING TO, TO KEEP THE OWNER RESPONSIBLE AND ON THE HOOK VIA THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU, UH, RASHAD FOR THAT WE DO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE QUEUE AND THAT'S COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, WHO IS, UH, JOINING US VIRTUALLY. SO COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO JOIN VIRTUALLY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN. OKAY, PERFECT. I'M WATCHING AND, AND DOING THIS FROM TWO DIFFERENT PHONES. SO I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS OVER THE WEEKEND. I RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE FROM, UM, UH, AN OWNER THAT HAD ISSUES WITH, UM, UH, AMENDMENT THREE, BUT SUPPORTIVE OF THE OVERALL ITEM FOR RESPONSIBLE SHORT TERM, UH, RENTAL. AND SO IF I COULD USE MY TIME, I JUST WANNA SHARE, AND I'LL SEND THIS TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND YOU CAN SHARE WITH THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE. SO, SO YOU HAVE IT ON RECORD, BUT I DO WANNA USE MY TIME TO JUST, UM, UH, SHERIFF'S COMMENTS. OKAY. IT SENT THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, I'M, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. SO IS YOUR COMMENT ON AMENDMENT THREE? IT'S ON THREE. OKAY. CAN YOU STAY WITH US? UH, SECOND. CAN WAIT UNTIL YOU GET THERE. I CAN, YES. I WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE WHOLE ITEM, SO OKAY. I CAN, GREAT. YOU CAN PUT, I'LL COME BACK IN AFTER THREE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. SURE. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. DOES ANYONE, UH, ELSE PRESENT WANT TO, UH, OFFER COMMENT ON ONE A OR ONE B AT THE TABLE? ALRIGHT, UM, OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. ON THE DIFFERENCES OF YOUR OFFER OF A NEW AMENDMENT TO IT, YOU WANTED TO ELIMINATE. UH, IS IT FROM AMENDMENT ONE B IN ASSOCIATION WITH ONE A? I'M JUST, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO SURE. UNDERSTAND THE CLARITY OF YOUR AMENDMENT RIGHT? THAT CHANGES THE PRESENT AMENDMENT. WELL, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, UH, PUTS THE BURDEN ON THE OWNER, MY AMENDMENT, WHICH, WHICH IS ONE A WOULD PLACE THE BURDEN ON THE OPERATOR. AND, AND WHERE I'M COMING FROM IS A LIFETIME SPENT AS A PROSECUTOR TRY TO TRYING TO HOLD, UH, FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE FOR A VIOLATION OF A CRIMINAL, UH, STATUTE. THIS IS A CRIMINAL ORDINANCE THAT IS PROPOSED. AND WHEN YOU SEE LANGUAGE LIKE OWNER OR OPERATOR, IT CREATES AN AMBIGUITY. AND WHEN YOU BRING SOMEONE TO COURT, LET'S SAY YOU BRING AN OPERATOR INTO COURT, WELL, WHAT IS PART OF THEIR DEFENSE GONNA BE? WELL, THE OWNER WAS SUPPOSED TO DO IT OR I THOUGHT THE OWNER WAS SUPPOSED TO DO IT. AND IT CREATES AN AMBIGUITY. IF YOU TRY TO HOLD THE OWNER ACCOUNTABLE, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA SAY? WELL, IT WAS THE OPERATOR'S RESPONSIBILITY. AND SO YOU BUILD IN AMBIGUITY TO, TO MY WAY OF THINKING AND, AND YOU OPEN YOURSELF UP TO A LEGAL CHALLENGE. THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH IT. OKAY. WELL, ON THE BASIS OF, IF YOU SAY THE OWNER, THE OWNER MAY OR MAY NOT BE PRESENT OR AT THE TIME OF WHATEVER THE INCIDENT MAY NOT, MAY BE. SO YOU ARE SUGGESTION THAT WE HOLD BOTH BIBLE? NO, MY PREFERENCE IS TO HOLD THE OPERATOR. OKAY. AS THE PER, AS THE ENTITY CLOSEST TO ACTUALLY RUNNING THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. THE, THE OPERATOR IS SOMETIMES IN FACT THE OWNER, BUT NOT ALWAYS. NOT ALWAYS. THAT, THAT WAS MY POINT. THAT THE WELL, [00:55:01] BUT IF THE OWNER HAS HIRED OR ASSIGNED THIS OPERATOR THAT MAKES THEM LIABLE BASED UPON THE PROPERTY OWNER, IF THE OWNER HAS AN OPERATOR, THEN IT WOULD FALL ON THE OPERATOR TO MAKE THAT, UH, APPLICATION AND TO GET THAT PERMIT COUNCIL MEMBER. COULD I ALSO ADD, AS, AS THE ORDINANCE IS DRAFTED RIGHT NOW, THE OWNER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THE APPLICATION ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THEIR PROPERTY IS GONNA BE USED AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL AND THEY'RE GONNA ESSENTIALLY BE AGREEING TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE ENTIRE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. I RAN THE VERY ISSUE YOU BROUGHT UP BY OUR CHIEF MUNICIPAL PROSECUTOR. UM, SHE TELLS ME EVERYONE POINTS THE FINGER REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS ALREADY. UM, SHE ACTUALLY SAID IN CERTAIN INSTANCES, WHEN WE ISOLATE THE LANGUAGE TO JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL, THEY'RE ACTUALLY HARDER TO PROSECUTE THOSE CASES. UM, SO WE DID OUR, OUR CHECK AND, AND, AND I THINK THE LANGUAGE OFFERED IN AMENDMENT ONE B IS A, A SUFFICIENT HYBRID AND GETS EVERYONE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, HOLDS EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE. UH, CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND, UH, YOUR VIEW AND AND RESPECT IT. UM, THE INTEREST THAT I HAVE IS IN PASSING AN ORDINANCE THAT'S GONNA WITHSTAND LEGAL CHALLENGE ACROSS THE BOARD. RIGHT. UH, THE ORDINANCE INVOLVES, UH, SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUES. UM, AND UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY INTENT ON, ON OFFERING IT. SO ANY, ANY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN? UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. AND, UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST AT THE OUTSET, I WANNA THANK A RA AND LEGAL FOR WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT GROUPS, ALL OF OUR FEEDBACK. UM, THIS WAS NOT IN ANY WAY DONE IN HASTE AND IT, IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK. SO JUST THANK YOU. UH, I CERTAINLY HEAR CHAIR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, UH, FROM A PROSECUTORIAL PERSPECTIVE IN CRIMINAL, UH, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC LISTENING FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS CIVIL ORDINANCE, NOT A CRIMINAL PROSECUTION, CORRECT? NO, IT, IT IS A CRIMINAL ORDINANCE WHEN YOU IMPOSE A FINE ON SOMEONE, IT IT IS A CRIMINAL ORDINANCE. OKAY. IT IS A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR IS, WHICH THE CITATION WOULD BE. IT IS NOT A CIVIL PENALTY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THE, HOW I HAD READ IT IS OF COURSE DISTINCT FROM THE CHAIR, BUT I, I GET WHERE THE CHAIR IS COMING FROM COMPLETELY. AND WE WANT THE BEST, UH, LANGUAGE POSSIBLE TO HOLD THOSE IN NEED ACCOUNTABLE. IF AMENDMENT ONE A IS PASSED, IS THERE ANY, UH, GAPS IN COVERAGE OR A LOOPHOLE THROUGH WHICH IT WOULD TIE THE CITY'S HANDS FROM PROSECUTING? I THINK POTENTIALLY COUNCIL MEMBER, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND TALK WITH THE CITY'S CHIEF MUNICIPAL PROSECUTOR ABOUT THAT. UM, BUT I THINK THE LANGUAGE IN ONE B ADDRESSES ALL OF THE POTENTIAL ISSUES THAT COULD BE THERE. OKAY. AND AGAIN, I LIKE THE CHAIRMAN, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE COVERING OUR BASES SO THAT UH, THERE IS NO LOOPHOLE WHERE SOMEBODY CAN GET OUT OF BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AND AGAIN, THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY, IF THERE ARE SOME OF OUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'RE NOT SPEAKING ABOUT YOU. YOU ALL ARE PHENOMENAL AND ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS IN A GROWING, UM, ECONOMY AND PROVIDING A SERVICE THAT IS NEEDED. BUT FOR THOSE THAT WE KNOW ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE INTENDING TO DO, UH, THIS NOT THE RIGHT WAY, THE UNSAFE WAY, UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HOLD THOSE FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN. AND UNLESS THERE ARE FURTHER COMMENTS AT THE TABLE, WE'LL GO TO AMENDMENT TWO AND WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO LAY THIS OUT? OKAY. THANK YOU. I HIT THE WRONG BUTTON. THERE'S TOO MANY BUTTONS. UH, AMENDMENT TWO, IT SEEKS TO, FOR THOSE, AGAIN, HOW WE GOT HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. WHY THIS ENTIRE ISSUE CAME UP IN PART WAS BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVERAL BAD ACTOR, UH, MULTI-FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE CREATING A PUBLIC SAFETY RISK AND A PUBLIC NUISANCE IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THE CITY. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGER COMPLEX WITH, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, 40 UNITS, UH, AND THERE IS, UH, PROSTITUTION OCCURRING, THERE ARE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES OCCURRING DRUG USE OCCURRING, RATHER THAN HAVING THE CITY AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME WHERE THERE HAS BEEN A RECORD SHOWN OF A PATTERN OF ABUSE, UM, AND DEFIANCE OF THE LAW. [01:00:01] INDIVIDUALLY, YOU'RE REQUIRED AS A CITY TO REVOKE THOSE INDIVIDUAL PERMITS BY UNIT. BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT, WHERE IS THE THRESHOLD WHERE WE SAY, OKAY, THE CITY DOES NO LONGER NEED TO KEEP COMING BACK OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR EVERY SINGLE UNIT TO REVOKE THAT. THIS ALLOWS US TO SAY IF 25% OR MORE OF THE UNITS REGISTERED AS STR HAVE BEEN, HAVE HAD THEIR LICENSES REVOKED AGAIN, NOT, UH, CITED, BUT ACTUALLY REVOKED, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT DUE PROCESS THAT IS LAID OUT, THEN THE CITY CAN COME BACK AND JUST SAY, OKAY, ENOUGH, THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY REGISTERED IS COMING OFF OF THE LIST AND WE'RE REVOKING IT IN ITS ENTIRETY. SO AGAIN, IT'S NARROWLY TAILORED TO ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT'S BEING RAISED, UM, BY MANY CONSTITUENTS, UH, NOT JUST IN DISTRICT C BUT AROUND THE CITY OF HOUSTON. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN. UM, ANYONE ELSE CARE TO OFFER COMMENTS AT THE TABLE? ALRIGHT, UM, DIRECTOR PAEZ OR UH, RE OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU BROTHER CHAIR. UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I I I REALLY DO. UM, IN ALL RESPECT TO, UH, COUNCILMAN KAMAN, HER EXPLANATION OF THIS, AND I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN 'CAUSE WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY OF COUNCIL AND, AND ALL OF US TO ASSURE THAT CITIZENS ARE PROTECTED FROM NUISANCE AND ALL OF THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS THAT COULD GO ON AT A PARTICULAR SITE. MY, MY CONCERN IS YOU SAID IF 25%, LET'S SAY IF IT'S A MULTI, UH, FAMILY, UH, MULTI-USE, I'M SORRY, MULTI-USE, UH, AIRBNB OR A FACILITY AND IF YOU TOOK 25% OF PEOPLE WERE MADE COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT AND IF THEY'RE BEING REVOKED OF 25%, THAT BASICALLY HURTS THAT BUSINESS SIDE. 'CAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT THE LONG TERMS. YOU KNOW, UH, WE ARE CERTAINLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING MORE ACCESSIBLE, UH, PLACES DOING THE FIFA ONCOMING PEOPLE COMING IN. AND YOU UNDERSTAND, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT. WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO CUT THE WING OFF OF, UH, THE PROVIDING OF, OF, UH, BUSINESS AND DOLLARS IN THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW. AND I I, I'M WITH GIVING THE FINES AND OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT IF THERE IS A NUISANCE OR PROCESS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT BENEFITS US. UM, IF YOU TAKE, YOU REGULATE 25% OF THAT FACILITY, UM, TO ME IT HURTS THE PROCESS AND IT PENALIZES THE PERSON WHO'S TRYING TO OPERATE AS BUSINESS THAT WILL, THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THE CITY FOR SPACES, HOTELS, OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED, UH, TO ALONG WITH IT, ESPECIALLY IN 2026, WE DO HAVE, UH, THE FEE FOR COMING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S MOSTLY RE ENFORCEMENT, WHEN WE GET THESE COMPLAINTS AT DIFFERENT FACILITIES, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN REALLY CLEAR HOW WE ENFORCE THAT PROCESS ADEQUATELY. SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS MAY NOT BE AS DETRIMENTAL AS OTHERS. SO, UM, I'M, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT 25% UNDER UNDERSTOOD. AND IF I MAY RESPOND, AND I APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE VERY MUCH, UM, ONE, I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. THIS IS DISTINCT FROM ANOTHER AMENDMENT WHERE THEY'RE LIMITING THE CAPACITY OF, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNITS ON YOUR PROPERTY. THIS IS SOLELY BASED ON, FROM AN ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE AN, WE'LL BE HEARING FROM RESIDENTS SOON SO THEY CAN SHARE SOME OF THEIR, UM, ANECDOTES AGAIN. BUT IF YOU HAVE AN ENTIRE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S BEING USED IN THIS WAY, AND I'M NOT TALKING AGAIN ABOUT THE GOOD PARTNERS, I'M TALKING ABOUT BANK STREET, RIGHT? UM, IF, AND IT'S NOT JUST CITATION. IF THE, IT'S IF MORE 25% OR MORE OF THOSE UNITS REGISTERED, HAS THOSE LICENSES HAVE BEEN REVOKED. THERE HAS BEEN A BASICALLY A COURT FINDING OF HOW EGREGIOUS THIS IS. IT'S AN INDICATION OF HOW BAD THAT ENTIRE PROPERTY IS BEING OPERATED. UH, NOT FROM A, UH, LONG-TERM RENTAL PERSPECTIVE. I'M TALKING ABOUT PARTY APARTMENTS, I'M TALKING ABOUT [01:05:01] THE PROSTITUTION THAT'S OCCURRING. SO WHEN, UH, AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE ALSO PUTTING UP AN AMENDMENT FOR, UH, HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS AND TRAINING. THAT'S A FREE TRAINING, RIGHT? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE SEEING, UH, ALL THIS SAYS IS FROM AN ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE AND CAPACITY PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE NOT GONNA KEEP MAKING RESIDENTS FILE COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT ON EVERY SINGLE UNIT. 'CAUSE YOU START TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HOP SCOTCH AROUND AND OKAY, THIS UNIT'S BEEN REVOKED, BUT WE'RE GONNA NOW USE THIS, THESE OTHER UNITS AND IT STARTS TO BECOME KIND OF LIKE WHACK-A-MOLE. SO WITH THIS, IT'S SAYING IF 25% OR MORE OF THE LICENSES HAVE BEEN REVOKED, IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL COMPLAINTS, THE CITY CAN SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS AS A PROBLEM PROPERTY AND THEY CAN NO LONGER PARTICIPATE IN THE STR PROGRAM. UH, AGAIN, TRYING TO COME AT THIS FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE FOR THOSE EGREGIOUS ACTORS, NOT FOR THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY, WHICH CERTAINLY, UM, AND AGAIN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH MANY OF OUR ST ARE, UH, THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO THEM SO TO SPEAK 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE UNITS ON THE SAME PROPERTY. I ASKED A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THAT. DO WE HAVE A NUMBER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT CERTAIN OF THOSE FACILITIES WHERE THERE'S PROSTITUTION OR SOME OF, IS THERE, IS THERE A NUMBER? DO WE HAVE A NUMBER, UM, OF CASES BY RECORD THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY WITH THAT? AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT IT, RIGHT? DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW, IS THERE A NUMBER, IS THERE A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY SAY X NUMBER OF THESE FACILITIES HAVE BEEN PROVEN FOR THAT. SO I THINK THAT YOU COULD FIND THE DATA ON COMPLAINTS AND CITATIONS FOR BANK STREET, FOR EXAMPLE. MM-HMM . BUT THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T PROPOSE THIS IN THE ORDINANCE, WE WERE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT TINY PORTION OF, BECAUSE REMEMBER THIS IS TOTAL CITY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED COMPLAINTS ON 27 PROPERTIES OUT OF THE 7,500 OR SO TOTAL ST THAT THERE ARE MM-HMM . UM, OF THE TOTAL ST YOU'RE LOOKING AT 700 PLUS OUR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AND THAT'S AS FAR AS OUR DATA GOES. WE KNOW THAT OF THAT 700 PLUS MULTIFAMILIES, YOU'VE GOT 149 THAT HAVE HAD POLICE CALLS. HPD CALLS TO THOSE, UM, WHETHER THOSE CITATIONS HAVE RESULTED IN CONVICTIONS, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT DATA YET. OKAY. AND SO, NO, AND THE ONLY REASON THAT, THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. WE GET THE RATIONALE BEHIND IT COMPLETELY. WE UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TRYING TO TO ADDRESS THINGS LIKE BANK STREET. SURE. BUT THE ONLY REASON THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SUPPORT IT IS 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO BACK UP. WHY IS IT 25%? WHY NOT 19%? WHY NOT 15%? SO I GET IT. AND, AND I'M DEFINITELY SYMPATHETIC TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THOSE CONDITIONS. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST THE QUESTION OF THE DATA TO SUPPORT THAT NUMBER IN CASE WE DO END UP IN LITIGATION. RIGHT. BUT SO YOU'RE, BUT I DO HAVE EMAILS FROM THE DEPARTMENT AND LEGAL SAYING THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS ACCEPTABLE. SO I UNDERSTAND WHY Y'ALL DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN THE ORIGINAL DRAFT, BUT Y'ALL DID SAY YES, THIS IS AN ACCEPTABLE AMENDMENT THAT Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH IF PASSED. SO WE, SO HERE IS WHAT THE NOTE SAID. THERE IS A CONCERN THAT THIS DIRECTLY TARGETS THE MULTIFAMILIES, BUT IT DOESN'T TARGET SINGLE FAMILY AT ALL. SO I DON'T WANNA SPEAK ON, BE ON LEGAL'S BEHALF, BUT THAT COULD RAISE AN EQUAL PROTECTION ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S ONLY ADDRESSING ONE PART OF THE TOTAL RESIDENTIAL MARKET. CAN LEGAL SPEAK TO THAT? 'CAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE EMAILS ALL SAYING THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTABLE AND Y'ALL WORKED WITH US ON THE LANGUAGE. I'M ALSO OPEN TO A DIFFERENT THRESHOLD, BUT ALL OF THIS STARTED BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACED WITH. AND IF WE'RE NOT GONNA ADDRESS THAT, AND WE JUST WENT THROUGH A YEAR'S WORTH OF WORK TO NOT ADDRESS THIS AND, UH, TO, TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S POINT THE BURDEN AND THE ONUS ON ENFORCEMENT. WE HAVE NO TOOL TO ENFORCE IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS, WE'RE THEN PLAYING WHACK-A-MOLE. JUST LIKE WITH THE SOUND ORDINANCE, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TEETH FOR THAT, THAT'S A PROBLEM. UH, SO DIRECTOR, I KNOW WE DO HAVE DA WE, COUNCIL MEMBER, TO YOUR POINT, YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVE DATA ON THE COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED THAT HELPED US SHOW AND WHAT WOULD PASS LEGAL MUSTER IS. YES, THIS IS, THESE ARE COMPLAINTS WE ARE RECEIVING THAT HAVE HELPED US CREATE THE REASON BEHIND THE NEED FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. THANK, THANK YOU COUNCILOR. WE'RE DEVELOPING THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THOUGH, THOUGH, THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO TRACK MORE, THAT WITH THE REGISTRATIONS [01:10:01] COMES THAT DATA, UM, THAT IS NEEDED TO CONTINUE IT GOING. SO THE REASON WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE INFORMATION IS BECAUSE WE DON'T REQUIRE FOLKS TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY. WE DON'T, HOUSTON FIRST HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE REAL NUMBERS ARE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN, UH, LEGAL RASHAD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN? SURE. I THINK THE DIRECTOR HIT IT ON THE HEAD. THE, THE PRIMARY CONCERN WITH THIS PROVISION IS THE SUBSTANTIVE DUE PROCESS CLAIMS THAT IT COULD BRING UP SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS THE RATIONAL BASIS BEHIND THE 25%. UM, I THINK FROM INCEPTION AND WORKING WITH THE DIRECTOR AS WELL AS THE ADMINISTRATION, THEY SEE THIS AS A PHASED APPROACH. UM, AND TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER, ONCE WE GET THE ORDINANCE ADOPTED, WE GET MORE DATA IN THE ECOSYSTEM. IT MAY YIELD A RESULT THAT WOULD JUSTIFY THIS PROVISION, WHETHER AT 25% OR EVEN AT A LOWER THRESHOLD. BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE PRIMARY CONCERN IS WHERE DID THE 25% COME FROM? WOULDN'T THE OPPOSITE BE TRUE THOUGH, POTENTIAL, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IF WE, LET'S SAY YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT COULD QUALIFY FOR A STRONGER THRESHOLD, SO WHY AREN'T WE ABLE TO START SOMEWHERE AND TWEAK IT FROM THERE? I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF COMING BACK LATER WHEN WE'VE BEEN AT THIS, RIGHT? WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, UH, WE SAID WITH THE SOUND ORDINANCE. OKAY, WE MAY NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER STAB AT IT, BUT THAT IS PROVING TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY CHALLENGING AND DIFFICULT. SO I WANT AS MUCH IN HERE THE BEST WAY WE CAN WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS INPUT. I KNOW SOME OF THEM ARE HERE TO PROVIDE EVEN MORE, UH, OFFERINGS FOR AMENDMENTS AND CLEANUP LANGUAGE AS WELL. LIKE, IT'S NOT A ONE AND DONE, BUT WE NEED TO GET AS MUCH IN AS POSSIBLE. SO WHAT WELL STATED COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, RASHAD, LET ME ASK YOU. OKAY, SO YOU TAKE ISSUE WITH THE 25%. THERE'S NO DATA TO SUPPORT THAT. WHAT IF, WHAT IF IT SAID, UH, IF TWO OR MORE OF THE OWNER OPERATORS TOTAL UNITS WERE REVOKED, WOULD THAT BE BETTER? I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN OFFERING UP A PERCENTAGE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO SUPPORT. UM, I THINK THERE'S ALSO POTENTIAL, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR EXPLANATION WAS, COUNCILMEMBER, ABOUT EQUAL PROTECTION CONCERNS. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THIS DOES NOT SEEMINGLY APPLY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, BUT THE MINDSET, WHAT IF AN INDIVIDUAL OWNS 10 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT THEY'RE RENTING OUT? UM, THIS WOULDN'T APPLY ACCORDING TO, TO YOUR DEFINITION OR TO YOUR EXPLANATION FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE. UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON CONCENTRATION HERE. I I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT AND GET THAT, BUT WE JUST SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO SUPPORT THIS PERCENTAGE. NOW, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE. MANY, MANY CITIES HAVE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF THEIR SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UM, ORDINANCES. AND I THINK THAT'S IN LARGE PART BECAUSE THEY CONTINUE TO GET DATA. THEY CONTINUE TO GET FEEDBACK FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. UM, SOME CITIES HAVE EVEN WORKED WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND PUT TOGETHER TASK FORCE BETWEEN SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS AND RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THEY'VE COME BACK WITH CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS SUPPORTED BY DATA THAT GETS THEM TO A PLACE WHERE THEIR ORDINANCES HAVEN'T BEEN CHALLENGED. WHAT JUMPED OUT OFF THE PAGE, I THINK, TO ALL OF US THAT WERE INVOLVED HERE IS WE, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO SUPPORT THE 25%. AND I THINK OUR, OUR PRIMARY GOAL AND HOPE IS THAT WE CAN ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AND HAVE SOMETHING PUT INTO PLACE THAT ISN'T IMMEDIATELY CHALLENGED. IT, IT, IT VERY WELL MAY BE. UM, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF DESCRIBING IT, ONE OF THOSE RED BLINKING LIGHTS THAT WE SAW AND THOUGHT, OKAY, UM, WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. SO, OKAY. I, I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN'S IN THE QUEUE, BUT ONE, ONE QUESTION AND THEN WE'LL GO TO HER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MCMAN, IF IT SAID TWO OR MORE UNITS AND WE ADDED IN, IN SINGLE FAMILY, WHAT, UH, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT? I, I WILL ACCEPT IT. UM, AND I'LL DEFER TO COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN. I WOULD WANNA HEAR FROM SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL. AGAIN, I WAS TRYING TO NARROWLY TAILOR IT SO WE'RE NOT IMPACTING AND IF WE, SO I'D LIKE LEGAL'S RECOMMENDATION ON LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, UH, FOR US TO REVIEW. UH, BUT I WOULD BE COMPLETELY ACCEPTABLE TO THAT AS LONG AS IT'S AS NARROWLY TAILORED AS POSSIBLE TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS SO THAT WE'RE NOT BEING UNDULY BURDENSOME ON TO COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS'S POINT. UM, BUSINESSES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN. I APOLOGIZE. WE KEPT YOU WAITING. NO, NO PROBLEM. SO TWO OR MORE IS EVEN A A THAT'S, THAT'S BETTER FOR LIKE, PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT IT, RIGHT? I MEAN, BECAUSE TWO OR MORE IS, COULD LESS THAN 25% IN A LOT OF TIMES TWO OR MORE UNITS GETTING CONVICT CONVICTIONS. CORRECT. TWO OR MORE UNITS GETTING CONVICTIONS, THEN YOU, YOU REVOKE THE REGISTRATIONS OF ALL THE, THE UNITS. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE? OBVIOUSLY YES. THE, THE, THE TWO OR MORE WOULD BE A MUCH LOWER THRESHOLD THAN 25%. YES. [01:15:01] THE, WHEN WE FIRST SAW THE LANGUAGE, I MEAN, WE, WE WEREN'T A PART OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT 'EM. YEAH, I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER. IF, IF YOU GOT SOME EMAIL FROM SOMEONE IN LEGAL WHO SAID THAT THIS WAS ACCEPTABLE, IT, IT, IT WASN'T ME. UM, BUT THE 25% CERTAINLY IS A CONCERN, FRANKLY, IN BOTH AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO AS WELL AS AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE HAS A, A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TWIST TO IT THAT RAISES SOME LEGAL CONCERNS. BUT YES, THE, THE PERCENTAGE WITHOUT ANY, YOU KNOW, CLEAR EMPIRICAL DATA TO SUPPORT IT IS CLEARLY A PROBLEM. SO YOU HAVE A 25 UNIT APARTMENT, TWO OR MORE OF THEM GET CONVICTIONS. NOBODY CAN SHORT TERM RENTAL OUT THAT IN THAT PROPERTY. WELL, BUT THAT, THAT, THAT KIND OF BLEEDS OVER INTO AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, WHICH I THINK ALSO BRINGS ABOUT MAKING MAKE SURE I I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT, I MEAN, 25% COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMANS, 25% IS MORE UNITS HAVE TO BE OFFENSIVE. YEAH. I MEAN, SO TWO OR MORE BETTER, BETTER FOR PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT CONCENTRATION. I MEAN, I TALKED ABOUT IN AMENDMENT THREE, I TALKED ABOUT SAN ANTONIOS, THEY DO IT ON A BLOCK FACE. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT CONCENTRATION, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE PEOPLE COMING AND SAYING THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THESE EITHER ON MY STREET IN MY TOWNHOUSE COMPLEX, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH CONCENTRATED AND THEY'RE CAUSING A LOT OF ISSUES. AND SO IN SAN ANTONIO THEY DO 12 POINT HALF PERCENT, THEY LIMIT DENSITY TO 12 POINT A HALF PERCENT ON A BLOCK FACE BY TYPE BY SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, 12 POINT A HALF PERCENT ON THE BLOCK FACE BY AND THEN MULTIFAMILY UNITS, IF THAT'S THE SAME BLOCK FACE, 12 POINT A HALF PERCENT. SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT IS, IS, IS, IS CONCENTRATION OF PROBLEMS. LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER CAME AND SAID, IF YOU'VE GOT A QUARTER OF THE UNITS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADJUDICATED AND THEY'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THROWN OUT, I MEAN, THIS IS A PROBLEM PROPERTY WHERE THE OWNER IS NOT CARING FOR THAT SITUATION. AND, AND I UNDERSTAND RASHAD, WE'VE WORKED ON A LOT OF STUFF TOGETHER. I UNDERSTAND THE, THE PUSHBACK OF, WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA, BUT MAN, PEOPLE ARE REALLY TIRED OF HEARING THAT. I MEAN, WE GOTTA START SOMEPLACE. WE HAVE TO START SOMEPLACE HAVING SOME KIND OF TEETH, UM, TO GET AFTER THE, THE, THE BAD ACTOR PROPERTY. SO THANK YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS HAS WEIGHED IN WITH A QUESTION VIRTUALLY, WHICH ASKS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TWO OR MORE UNITS OR PROPERTIES? BECAUSE THAT'S DIFFERENT. AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TWO OR MORE UNITS MM-HMM . ON A SINGLE PROPERTY IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING. SO, ALRIGHT. SO, UM, WOULD ANYBODY ELSE AT THE TABLE LIKE TO OFFER A COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE ON? NO. JUST TO CLEAN IT UP. SO WE WILL GET BACK FROM LEGAL AND A RA PROPOSED MODIFIED LANGUAGE AND AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT. AND SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, BUT LET ME JUST, UH, LET EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE KNOW NOTHING IS FINAL HERE. THIS IS JUST DISCUSSING, UM, AMENDMENTS THAT MIGHT BE OFFERED, MAY OR MAY NOT PASS. AND SO WHEN YOU COME UP AND OFFER COMMENT, FEEL FREE TO WEIGH IN ON ANY OR ALL OF THIS STUFF. SO MOVING ON TO AMENDMENT THREE AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO LAY THIS OUT? SURE. AND THIS IS JUST WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS LIMITING THE DENSITY WITHIN A MULTI-FAMILY UNIT. AND IF, IF THAT IS A PROBLEM WITH EQUAL EQUAL PROTECTION, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU'RE GOING INTO, YOU WOULD, YOU DO, WOULD DO A BLOCK FACE TYPE SITUATION. BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ISSUES WITH THIS AND I WANNA HEAR MORE FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS. UH, I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS. UM, BUT BASICALLY I WAS TAKING, UM, WHAT THEY DO IN, IN SAN ANTONIO AND OTHER CITIES ABOUT LIMITING DENSITY WITHIN A MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY TO DEAL, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONCENTRATION ISSUES WE'VE HAD ALSO UNDERSTAND A LOT OF APARTMENTS ALREADY PUT THAT IN THE LEASE THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT OR THEY LIMIT THE NUMBERS THEMSELVES AT, AT PROPERTIES. UM, BUT UNDERSTAND THERE'S ISSUES WITH CORPORATE HOUSING AND OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT COME UP WITH THIS. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM MORE, UH, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS ONE. ALRIGHT, BEFORE WE GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION, LET ME, LET ME JUST SAY THAT, UH, LAST WEEK I HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET WITH TED POWELL, WHO'S HERE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND HE EXPRESSED, UH, A CONCERN THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN AND I THEN TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING. AND SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT AMENDMENT THREE, WE'VE TWEAKED IT A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T THINK THE DEFINITION'S UP THERE, BUT WE DID CHANGE THE DEFINITION TO THE MULTIFAMILY DEFINITION. RIGHT. UM, FROM, WE'LL GO, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THERE, THERE IS THAT, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS OFFERED. WE TOOK ANOTHER DEFINITION THAT WAS ALSO IN CHAPTER 42, BUT HAVE REVISED IT TO THIS DEFINITION. THAT'S IN CHAPTER 42. RIGHT. SO, THANK YOU CHAIR FOR THAT. YOU BET. SO PREVIOUSLY IT SAID, LET'S GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE. MULTIUNIT RESIDENTIAL. I BELIEVE IT'S A, IT WAS A DIFFERENT DEFINITION [01:20:01] IN CHAPTER 42, BUT THIS IS THE CORRECT ONE WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT IN THIS NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. AND I CAN ADD SOME COLOR TO THAT. THE DISTINCTION, I BELIEVE WITH MULTI-UNIT WAS THAT IT WAS AN AGGREGATE OF THREE TO EIGHT UNITS, WHEREAS THIS DEFINITION SPEAKS TO THREE OR MORE UNITS. RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE ONE I MEANT TO USE. I APOLOGIZE. MM-HMM . NO PROBLEM. UH, WOULD ANYBODY AT THE TABLE LIKE TO OFFER A COMMENT? OH, COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, THIS IS, THIS IS THE AMENDMENT YOU WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON. SO, UH, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN FOR THAT UPDATE. UH, THE UPDATE OF THE LANGUAGE. I JUST, I RECEIVED A, UM, AN EMAIL FROM A RESIDENT WHO'S ACTIVELY, UH, PARTICIPATING IN THE MARKET REGARDING SHORT TERM RENTALS, PARTICULARLY AROUND DUKE STUFF. 'CAUSE I JUST WANNA SYNTHESIZE HIS REMARKS AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S IN PERSON. AND I'LL SHARE THIS WITH, UM, UH, CHAIRMAN RAMIREZ AND HE CAN SHARE THIS WITH THE COMMITTEE SO YOU CAN HAVE IT ON RECORD. UH, HE HAS AN ISSUE WITH AMENDMENT THREE. AND IN SHORT, UH, HE BELIEVES THIS AMENDMENT IS AN OVERREACH BY THE CITY ON PRO ON PROPERTY RIGHTS AND USE. I BELIEVE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY RESIDENTS DESERVE MORE TIME TO REVIEW AND UNDERSTAND THE LAST MINUTE AMENDMENT. IT STRIKES ME AS VERY UNFAIR TO TARGET SMALL LANDLORDS AS AN OPERATOR. I IMPROVE PROPERTIES, CREATE JOBS, BRING TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY, BUILD COMMERCE IN OUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AND GIVE GUESTS SAFE AND AFFORDABLE OPTIONS WHEN VISITING OUR CITY. ADDITIONALLY, OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL PROMOTES LOCAL BUSINESS BECAUSE OUR TRAVEL AND GUESTS WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, UM, HE HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT HE PAYS, UM, WITH, UH, AMENDMENT THREE OF, SORRY, THAT IT THE LIMIT OF, TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF SHORT TERM RENTALS IN A MULTI-UNIT COMPLEX DENSITY LIMITATION. NO MORE THAN ONE FOURTH OF THE TOTAL MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR POSSIBLY COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN, SINCE YOU ALTERED THAT AMENDMENT WITH THAT NEW DEFINITION, UH, DOES IT STILL IMPACT OUR SMALLER, OUR SMALLER STR OPERATORS? YES, IN THE SAME WAY? YES. IT, IT'S, IT'S ALL MULTIFAMILY NO MATTER THE SIZE. CONDOS, TRIPLEXES, QUADRAPLEXES AND APARTMENTS. BUT I, BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH THIS AMENDMENT AND THAT'S WHY I WANNA HEAR MORE FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT IT. I THINK THAT YEAH, AND I'LL THINK THAT I'LL SEND THIS PIECE TO YOU. YEAH. THE SPIRIT, WHAT HE REALLY WANTS TO UNDERSCORE IS THAT THIS PROPERTY ALLOWS HIM TO OFFER NON-TRADITIONAL SERVICES. RIGHT. LAW STUDENTS FROM THURGOOD STAY THERE TRAVELING, NURSES WORKING IN THE MEDICAL CENTER. UM, HE SAID IN 2023 HE PAID $10,711 IN HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES. AND 15,257 IN PROPERTY TAXES ALONE. IN 2024, THOSE NUMBERS INCREASED TO 13,132 AND 15,895 RESPECTIVELY. IN HIS POSITION, THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS REFLECT HIS COMMITMENT TO RESPONSIBLE HOSTING IN VERY REAL FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE STR UH, RENTALS IN THE CITY. AND SO, UM, IT, IT, AND, AND LET ME ASK YOU, SINCE YOU OFF THE, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, IF LEGAL IS ABLE TO COME BACK WITH NEW LANGUAGES, IS A POSSIBILITY FOR US TO DELAY THE AMENDMENT SO WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATION TO LEVEL SET WITH THE PUBLIC ON THE NEW REVISED LANGUAGE BEFORE TAKING THE ITEM AS A WHOLE. YES. AND, UH, JUST FYI, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER PLUMMER HAS, UH, LET US KNOW SINCE SHE WAS NOT AT LAST WEEK'S MEETING, SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO TAG THIS OKAY. UH, ITEM THIS WEEK AND THAT SHE WILL EXERCISE THAT. RIGHT. SO WE'LL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME OKAY. IF, IF SHE GOES FORWARD WITH HER TAG. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S GOOD NEWS. YOU BET. ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN. THANK YOU. UM, AND I, I APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE AND CONVERSATION, AND AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE SPIRIT OF THE AMENDMENT AND ALSO THE LEGAL, UM, CHALLENGES THAT IT MAY PRESENT. UH, HAS THIS WITHSTOOD, HAVE OTHER CITIES DONE THINGS SIMILAR? WHAT REALLY STRUCK ME? ONE, AGAIN, THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY APPLYING TO OWNERS OF MULTIPLE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A, A SINGLE PROPERTY WITH MULTIPLE UNITS AS DEFINED UNDER THE CODE. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU BROUGHT UP A POINT EARLIER, UH, LAST WEEK ABOUT HOUSING STOCK, UM, AND THE [01:25:01] SHORTAGE OF HOUSING STOCK IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON. UH, AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA HINDER BUSINESS AND WE APPRECIATE THE TAX REVENUE THAT COMES IN. WE WANT PEOPLE VISITING ALL OVER THE CITY, NOT JUST STAYING IN HOTELS, ALTHOUGH WE LOVE OUR HOTEL FOLKS. UM, ONE HAS THIS BEEN REPLICATED ANYWHERE ELSE? AND HOW HAS THAT WITHSTOOD UH, LEGAL TESTS? WELL, I THINK YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES HERE. UM, ONE COUNCILMAN BROCO, TO YOUR POINT, SAN ANTONIO DOES HAVE A 12.5% LIMITATION ON BLOCK FACES, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY APPLICABLE DIRECTLY TO JUST THE OVERALL NUMBER OF UNITS. IT'S SPECIFIC TO TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. UH, TYPE TWO, I BELIEVE ARE NON-OWNER OCCUPIED VERSUS OWNER OCCUPIED. UM, ANOTHER DISTINCTION, I TALKED TO OUR FRIENDS IN SAN ANTONIO ABOUT THIS, UM, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHERE THEIR 12.5% CAME FROM WAS A TASK FORCE THAT WAS SHORT TERM RENTAL OWNERS AS WELL AS RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THEY CAME TOGETHER, THEY GOT TO THE DATA TOGETHER, THEY TALKED ABOUT IT, THEY CAME BACK TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. SO THEY HAD SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY BUY-IN. SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S REALLY MISSING THOUGH, FROM THIS AMENDMENT AND SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T LOOK PAST IN THE SAN ANTONIO ORDINANCES, THEY HAVE A PROVISION ABOUT, UM, GRANDFATHERING, UM, NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS. AND SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT IN PLACE THIS TYPE OF LIMITATION. BUT THE PROBLEM COMES IN THAT YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE USING THEIR PROPERTY, PRESUMABLY LAWFULLY NOT SUBJECT TO ANY TYPE OF DEED RESTRICTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S VERY CLEAR THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT DO SHORT-TERM RENTALS OR STATED DIFFERENTLY LEASES LESS THAN X NUMBER OF DAYS. SO THIS PROPOSAL REALLY KIND OF FLIES IN THE FACE OF THAT CONCEPT. IT DOESN'T COME ALONG WITH A NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS PROVISION OR GRANDFATHERING PROVISION, WHICH I ASSUME WOULD PROBABLY BE COUNTERINTUITIVE TO THE RECOMMENDATION. AND SO THIS ONE, FRANKLY, I THINK CREATES THE MOST LEGAL PERIL OUT OF ALL OF THE PROPOSED PROVISIONS. NOW WE HAVE A LITANY OF CASE LAW THAT TALKS ABOUT OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE ATTEMPTED TO BAN SHORT-TERM RENTALS. I WOULDN'T SUGGEST THAT THIS IS MUCH THE SAME, BUT IT IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT ONCE THE CITY REACH REACHES THAT 25% THRESHOLD AT, AT A PROPERTY, NO ONE ELSE THERE CAN OPERATE AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL. SO HOW IS THAT IMPLEMENTED MOVING FORWARD? UM, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AND IF THE CITY WERE TO ADOPT THIS PROVISION AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OPERATING, LET'S SAY IF THE FACILITIES AT A HUNDRED CAPA A HUNDRED PERCENT SHORT TERM RENTALS, HOW DOES THE CITY LEGISLATE AND AND HAND OUT A LOTTERY SYSTEM TO SAY WHO GETS THE 25% AND THE REST OF YOU ARE OUT? AND THAT BRINGS ABOUT SOME SERIOUS REGULATORY TAKINGS CONCERNS. THANK YOU, RASHAD. UM, ANYONE ELSE? OH, COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN. YEAH. AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT RASHAD, AND UNDERSTAND THAT I, I THINK THAT THE AMENDMENT TWO, YOU KNOW, REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU LISTED OFF HOW MANY MULTIFAMILY? 700, A LITTLE OVER 700. AND WE'VE HAD CALLS TO A HUNDRED FORTY, A HUNDRED FORTY NINE THEM. 40 OF 'EM. UM, I THINK, I HOPE, AND, AND WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, BUT I, I HOPE THAT AMENDMENT TWO REALLY SPEAKS TO MORE OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. YOU'RE TRIAL. WELL, I'M NOT TRYING TO PENALIZE ALL THE MULTIFAMILIES I'M TRYING TO GET, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AFTER THE ONES WHERE THERE'S CONCENTRATION OF BAD ACTIVITY. SO AMENDMENT TWO MIGHT SUFFICE IN THAT REGARD. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ALCO. SO, ALRIGHT, HEARING NO OTHER, UH, REQUEST COMMENT WILL GO TO AMENDMENT FOUR. AMENDMENT FOUR SUMMARY REQUIRE THAT THE APPLICANT AND ALL ITS EMPLOYEES RECEIVE TRAINING ON RECOGNIZING HUMAN TRAFFICKING AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. EVERYONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPLICANT AND EMPLOYEES WILL HAVE TO GET, UH, UH, TRAINING ON RECOGNIZING HUMAN TRAFFICKING. AND THIS IS, UH, A REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, EMPLOYEES AT A HOTELS, I BELIEVE ARE REQUIRED TO GET AS WELL, THAT IS FREE AND ONLINE AND DOESN'T TAKE VERY LONG. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND SO, UM, I'D ASK, UH, DIRECTOR PAZ OR RASHAD, IF YOU ALL HAVE A POSITION ON THIS, WE SUPPORT IT. OKAY. SO THE ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTS AMENDMENT FOUR IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO COMBAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON IT? COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN? NO, I, I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE FOR WORKING ON THIS. I THINK IT, UH, SPEAKS TO THE SPIRIT OF HOUSTON, OF EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER TO, TO COMBAT HUMAN AND SEX TRAFFICKING AND THAT WE HAVE A FREE COURSE AVAILABLE. UM, THAT IS, UH, NOT AN ALL DAY THING. UH, IT'S, I THINK AN DIRECTOR, I FORGET HOW LONG IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT BURDENSOME, UH, SO TO SPEAK. UH, AND SO JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THIS ONE MOVING FORWARD. AND I WOULD ONLY ADD TO THAT, THAT THIS IS [01:30:01] ACTUALLY NOT A TABLE AMENDMENT IN THE VERY TRADITIONAL SENSE IN THAT IT IS NOT PROPOSING A CODE AMENDMENT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL APPLYING IS GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN THIS TRAINING. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT, THAT THE CONCEPT WAS OFFERED AS A TABLE AMENDMENT, BUT IT'S NOT A PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT. IT'S GONNA BE HANDLED FROM A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE. ALRIGHT. AND SO IS THAT ALREADY PART OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE OR THE AGENDA ITEM IS WRITTEN? IT'S NOT PART OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, BUT BECAUSE COUNSEL DESIRES IT, WE'LL JUST INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE APPLICATION PROCESS. OKAY. WE HAVE A VIDEO THAT WE ALREADY DO FOR HOTEL MOTEL TRAINING AND THAT WILL JUST BE PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR STR. OKAY, GREAT. UH, POINT OF INFORMATION FOR LEGAL OR A RA WHEN WE PASS THOUGH THE HOTEL ORDINANCES, UM, THIS WAS BACK IN 2020, SO I DO NOT REMEMBER THE LANGUAGE THOUGH. DIDN'T WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT IN ORDINANCE FOR THE TRAINING? THAT'S RIGHT. I BELIEVE IT'S IN DIVISION THREE, ARTICLE NINE OF CHAPTER 28. IF I'M THINKING ABOUT IT, IT GOD BLESS YOU. UH, . SO WHY WOULDN'T WE INCLUDE IT IN ORDINANCE HERE? I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU COULDN'T COUNCIL MEMBER, I JUST WANNA BE VERY TECHNICAL ON MY RESPONSE THAT THIS IS NOT A PROPOSED TABLE AMENDMENT, MEANING A CODE AMENDMENT, BUT IT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE LANGUAGE. UM, IF THAT LANGUAGE WAS PUT TOGETHER, I I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR, UNDERSTOOD. AS PRESENTED. SO I DID NOT PROVIDE THE UNDER ARTICLE TO CHAPTER, WHATEVER THIS, SO IT COULD LEGAL OR A RA NOT TO CREATE MORE WORK FOR Y'ALL. PLEASE TIE IT UP IN A PRETTY BOW FOR US SO WE COULD KIT IT INTO ORDINANCE. NOT A PROBLEM. THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE TO AMENDMENT FIVE. SO, UM, THIS WOULD DEFINE PLATFORM SO THAT THE MULTIPLE LISTING SERVICE, UM, THAT THE HOUSTON ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS HAS, UH, WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED. AND THE THINKING THERE IS THAT YOU CANNOT DIRECTLY RENT SHORT, UH, A SHORT TERM RENTAL, SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTY ON THE H-A-R-M-L-S. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS AMENDMENT SEEKS TO ACCOMPLISH. SO DIRECTOR PAEZ OR RASHAD, DO YOU WANNA WEIGH IN ON THAT ONE? SO THE ONLY OBJECTION THAT WE HAVE IS THE LANGUAGE THAT ENDED UP IN THE PUBLISHED AMENDMENT IS NOT THE FINAL LANGUAGE THAT LEGAL CAME UP WITH BASED ON THEIR DISCUSSIONS WITH HAR. SO WE UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF IT, BUT IT NEEDS SOME CLEANUP IN THE AMENDMENT. OKAY. UH, BUT YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE BASIC IDEA. YEAH. WE NEVER INTENDED TO CAPTURE LISTING SERVICES. OKAY. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME, HAR HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE ORIGINAL DRAFT LANGUAGE. THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT BEING CAPTURED BY IT. THIS LANGUAGE THAT ADDS THROUGH THE PLATFORM ITSELF, UM, APPARENTLY CAUSES SOME CONCERNS WITH OTHER SHORT-TERM RENTAL PLATFORMS WHEREIN THE ACTUAL TRANSACTION DOESN'T HAPPEN ON THE PLATFORM ITSELF. IT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER, BUT THE TRANSACTION HAPPENS SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND SO WE CAME TOGETHER AND WE WROTE SOME LANGUAGE THAT CLEARLY ISOLATES IT TO MOBILE APPLICATIONS AND DIGITAL PLATFORMS FOR MLSS THAT DO NOT FACILITATE SHORT-TERM RENTAL BOOKING TRANSACTIONS. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S SUFFICIENT FROM WITH HAR AS WELL AS AT LEAST ONE PLATFORM. UM, I, I THINK IT COVERS ALL THE BASES. SO THAT WILL BE BE FORTHCOMING. ALRIGHT. UH, ANYONE ELSE CA CARRIED TO WEIGH IN ON THAT ONE? COUNCILMAN RACO? NOT, NOT ON AMENDMENT FIVE, BUT IF WE'RE DONE WITH THE AMENDMENTS, JUST REAL QUICK, AND I KNOW WE WANNA HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, BUT I BROUGHT UP LAST WEEK AND I'M, I'M STILL GETTING QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE RESPONSIBLE OWNERS THAT HAD AN, HAD AN ISSUE IN THE SECTION WHERE THEY'RE TALK, WHERE ALL THE LIST OF EVENTS ARE, HOLD ON, LET ME PULL UP THE EMAIL REAL QUICK. IT'S SECTION, UM, 42 0 1 A AND SEVEN. BUT LIKE, BASICALLY, AND THESE, THESE DISORDERLY CONDUCT AND ALL THE CRIMES THAT ARE LISTED, THE OWNERS, THEY DON'T WANNA BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IF THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. I MEAN, THERE'S NO NOTIFICATION IN THERE. MM-HMM . AND, AND IT'S ABOUT, IT HAS TO DO WITH CHAPTER 1 25. I'VE TALKED WITH NIJA, I'VE TALKED WITH ARTURO ABOUT IT. BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN WHY WE WOULDN'T INCORPORATE KIND OF ANY KIND OF NOTIFICATION TO THE OWNER? BASIC, OKAY, LET ME, LET ME TRY TO PUT IT LIKE THIS. HOLD ON, LET ME FIND IT. I MEAN, THE ISSUE IS THAT THE OWNERS ARE NOT NECESSARY. THEY, THEY, THE LANDLORD HAD [01:35:01] NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR THE LANDLORD HAS DEMONSTRATED PROACTIVE MEASURES TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS ONCE DISCOVERED, SUCH AS IMMEDIATELY REMOVING PROBLEM GUESTS OR THE LANDLORD HAS CLEAR POLICIES PROHIBITING ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. THEY, THEY DO, THEY WANT, THERE'S CONCERN FROM THE RESPONSIBLE OWNERS GROUP THAT THEY ARE GONNA BE SOMEHOW HELD LIABLE FOR SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT. AND THEN THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO RENT OUT THEIR PLACE FOR A YEAR. YEAH. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK COUPLE? I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. I'LL, I'LL SEND YOU THIS AND YOU CAN, AND YOU CAN WEIGH IN ON IT MORE. OKAY. SO WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. NOW I WILL SAY THAT, UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, COUNCIL MEMBER PLUMMER AS SUBMITTED, NOT AN AMENDMENT, BUT MORE OF A STATEMENT THAT, UM, UH, OPPOSING ALL OF THESE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT AND AN INTENTION TO TAG AS WELL. SO I, UNLESS, UH, BELIEVE A REPRESENTATIVE HAS, HAS LEFT, BUT, UH, WE WILL, WE WILL HEAR FROM HER ON WEDNESDAY, I'M SURE. SO ALSO, WE RECEIVED SOME PROPOSALS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER POLLARD'S STAFF, BUT THEY CAME IN KIND OF LATE. UM, BUT WE WILL TAKE THOSE UNDER CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER WEEK TO, TO CONSIDER ALL OF THESE AS WELL. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN? NO. OKAY. YOU, YOU MENTIONED COUNCIL MEMBER POLLARD'S AMENDMENTS. I BELIEVE THEY CAME IN SPECIFICALLY FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD THEMSELVES THAT ARE MUCH MORE STRINGENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WALK A LINE, UM, ON ENFORCEMENT, BUT ALSO ALLOWING THE USE OF PROPERTY THE WAY THAT AN OWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO DO. UH, AND AGAIN, INCLUDING RENTING OR LEASING IT OUT. BUT WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ASKING FOR MUCH MORE STRINGENT, UH, LANGUAGE THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE. UH, VERY FAIR. RIGHT? SO I JUST DIDN'T, WE JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK WE HADN'T, UH, READ THEM OR CONSIDERED THEM. SO THANK YOU. WELL, I TELL YOU WHAT, UH, THANK YOU DIRECTOR PEZ AND UH, RASHAD. AND SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I HAVE A LIST OF ABOUT 15 FOLKS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED UP AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, WE WILL GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY. BUT LET ME FIRST ASK, 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE TO LEAVE RIGHT AWAY AND CAN'T, CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER. NO, NO. IT'S DANGEROUS TO ASK THAT QUESTION, BUT, ALRIGHT. SO THEN WE'LL JUST GO IN THE ORDER THAT, UH, YOU'VE SIGNED UP. AND FIRST WE HAVE MARJORIE SMITH. MARJORIE SMITH. MARJORIE, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANKS FOR COMING. AND, UH, JUST GO AHEAD AND WE'LL, AND LET ME SAY THAT WE WILL GIVE EVERYONE, UH, TWO MINUTES. OKAY? OKAY. THIS IS NOT ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTAL. IT'S NOT ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTAL. NO, NO, THAT'S FINE. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I'D, I, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. I COME BEFORE YOU TO ADDRESS A GROWING CONCERN WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND ONE THAT AFFECTS THE WELLBEING OF RESIDENTS AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS CONCERN REVOLVES AROUND THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT LOUD BUSINESSES CAN HAVE ON THE TRANQUILITY OF OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, PARTICULARLY DURING DAYTIME HOURS, WHICH DID COME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THERE REALLY IS NOT A DAYTIME OR NOISE ORDINANCE AT THIS TIME. SO THIS IS KIND OF SEPARATE FROM THE NIGHTTIME ORDINANCE. SO WHILE WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESS, IT'S CRUCIAL THAT WE BALANCE THIS GROWTH WITH THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. THE BUSINESSES WE ARE REFERRING TO MAY INCLUDE THOSE WITH DAILY EXCESSIVE AND CONTINUOUS NOISE LEVELS FROM MACHINERY, LOUD MUSIC, CONSTRUCTION WORK, OR ANY OTHER FORM OF DISRUPTIVE SOUNDS THAT DISTRIBUTES THE SURROUNDING, THAT DISTURBS THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS. FIRST AND FOREMOST, LOUD NOISE CAN SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECT THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF RESIDENTS. AND IT CAN LEAD TO INCREASED STRESS, SLEEP DISTURBANCES, AND EVEN ANXIETY. FOR FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN, THE ELDERLY AND THOSE WHO WORK FROM HOME. THIS NOISE CAN MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO CONCENTRATE, REST, OR SIMPLY ENJOY THE COMFORTS OF THEIR HOMES. SECONDLY, LOUD BUSINESSES DISRUPTS THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY. A NEIGHBORHOOD MORE THAN JUST A COLLECTION OF HOUSES IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE SEEK PEACE, CONNECTION, AND STABILITY. WHEN BUSINESSES PRODUCE HIGH LEVELS OF NOISE, IT DISRUPTS THIS ENVIRONMENT, MAKING IT HARDER FOR RESIDENTS TO FEEL CONNECTED [01:40:01] TO THEIR SURROUNDINGS. IMAGINE TRYING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH A NEIGHBOR OR SIMPLY SIT ON YOUR PORCH TO RELAX AND ENJOY THE WEATHER, ONLY TO BE CONSTANTLY BOMBARDED WITH A AGGRAVATING NOISES. THIS ERODES THE SENSE OF SAFETY AND SERENITY THAT IS FUNDAMENTAL TO ANY NEIGHBORHOOD. FURTHERMORE, THE PRESENCE OF EXCESSIVE NOISE IS NOT ONLY AN INCONVENIENCE, BUT CAN LEAD TO ECONOMIC LOSS FOR THE RESIDENTS. THIS CAN INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMIT TO DECREASING PROPERTY VALUES. POTENTIAL HOME BUYERS LESS LIKELY TO BE ATTRACTED TO, TO A HOME PLAGUED BY DISRUPTIVE NOISES. AND OWNERS WHO RENT OUT THEIR PROPERTIES MAY LOSE RENTERS WHO, TWO MINUTES. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND FINISH MARK. SORRY. WE CHOOSE TO MOVE TO QUIETER AREAS. UH, CURRENTLY THE BUSINESS AFFECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS AN AUTOMATIC CAR WASH THAT OPERATES SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 12 OR MORE HOURS A DAY, STARTING AS EARLY AS SIX 30 IN THE MORNING AND CLOSING AFTER 8:00 PM LOUD BUZZERS THAT COULD BE HEARD A BLOCK AWAY THAT BEGIN GOING OFF WHEN THE BUSINESS OPENS AND CONTINUES THROUGHOUT THE DAY. WE ARE AWARE OF THE SAFETY OF THE BUZZER, BUT WE'VE ASKED THE OWNER FOR A SUBSTITUTE AND HE REFUSES SINCE HOUSTON DOES NOT HAVE ANY ZONING, WE HAVE SOME BUSINESS OWNERS THAT DO NOT WISH TO WORK WITH RESIDENTS. AND SO HE URGED THE COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION AND ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE. AND WE DO HAVE A FEW POTENTIAL IDEAS. IF I'M OVERSTEPPING MY TIME, I CAN JUST LEAVE IT WITH Y'ALL IF THAT MAKES IT EASIER. BUT MAINLY STRICTER REGULATION FOR WHEN THE, THE BUSINESS CAN BE OPEN AND SOUNDPROOFING REQUIREMENTS IF, IF THEY CAN BE DONE. AND ALSO ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC, WORKING WITH BUSINESS AND RESIDENTS TO TRY TO COME UP WITH BETTER, UM, UH, A A A BETTER COEXISTENCE. SO ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT OUR CITY IS A PLACE WHERE BUSINESS CAN THRIVE, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE HEALTH, WELLBEING AND HAPPINESS OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE CURRENTLY FORCED AT THIS TIME TO MAKE ALL THE SACRIFICES. AND LET'S, SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND AN ENFORCEABLE BUT FAIR SOLUTION THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY. MARJORIE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, AND YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A CAR WISH WA CAR WASH. I'VE HEARD IT. IT'S AWFUL. I AGREE WITH YOU. AND UH, LET ME ASSURE YOU, WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON NOISE AS COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN ALLUDED TO. I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THAT AS WELL. SO COUNCIL MEMBER, MEMBER ALCORN. YES. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. WE ARE WORKING ON THIS ISSUE AND, AND THERE IS, THERE ARE RULES ABOUT DAYTIME. IT'S 65 DECIBELS AT DAY, DURING THE DAYTIME HOURS, THERE IS A DECIBEL SET, DECIBEL LEVEL. RIGHT. AND AGAIN, WHEN WE TRY TO HAVE POLICE OFFICERS COME OUT TO MEASURE, WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH, THEY DON'T HAVE THE PROPER, UH, EQUIPMENT. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS TO DO THIS. THEY CAN'T ENFORCE IT. THERE'S A LOOPHOLE. I HAVE ANOTHER RESIDENT, HE SAYS WITH ME, WHO CANNOT POSSIBLY EVEN SELL HIS HOUSE RIGHT NOW WITH A NEW BABY ON THE WAY THEY, THEY'RE TRAPPED BECAUSE THE CAR WASH, THE BLOWERS ARE VERY LOUD. WE, HE DID CHANGE THOSE TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT, UH, QUIETER, BUT THEY'RE STILL QUITE LOUD. THE BUZZER, WE HEARD A BLOCK AWAY, LIKE WE SAID, AND IT CONSTANTLY GOES OFF STARTING AT SIX 30 EVERY MORNING. WE ARE ALL WOKEN UP TO THE BUZZER EVERY MORNING AND THEN THEY DO THE, THE CLEANUP AFTER THEY'RE CLOSED. THAT'S ANOTHER HOUR THAT WE'RE SITTING THERE HAVING TO LISTEN TO THIS. WE CAN NO LONGER SIT ON OUR FRONT PORCHES WHERE WE USED TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. AND, AND THAT WAS, WE HAVE A REALLY STRONG COMMUNITY ON OUR STREET THAT'S WEST 17TH AND WEST 18TH STREET ARE THE TWO STREETS AFFECTED BY THIS. THE EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC THAT'S COME DOWN AND THE OWNER IS REFUSING TO WORK WITH US IN ANY WAY. AND HE'S NOT GOING TO LOSE ANY PROFITS BECAUSE HE IS A MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION TYPE CAR WASH. WHETHER THEY COME OR NOT COME, HE GETS PAID. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOME ASSISTANCE THAT WE CAN ENJOY OUR HOMES 'CAUSE WE WERE THERE BEFORE THE BUSINESS. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY SAME THING FOR A BUSINESS. IF A BUSINESS IS THERE BEFORE THE RESIDENTS COME IN, THEN THE RESIDENTS ARE TO, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH THE, UH, THEY NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE NOISES AND THEN THEY MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER DO NEED, WE NEED TO GET AN OFFICER OUT THERE AT THAT MORNING BLOW AND WE NEED TO GET 'EM OUT THERE AT THE HI DOCUMENT WHEN THE HIGHEST NOISE IS AND GET WE'LL GET AN OFFICER OUT THERE. OH, I GUESS WE, Y'ALL DONE THAT. IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT, BUT, UM, BUT CERTAINLY WE NEED TO, I TELL PEOPLE IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS WITH MACHINERY OR WHATNOT, DOCUMENT WHEN THE LOUDEST NOISE IS OVER TIME AND WE CAN GET AN OFFICER OUT THERE AT THAT TIME. WE'RE NOT TALKING, TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MAY, AND I'M SURE COUNCIL MEMBER CAME AND BEEN ON THIS. CORRECT. THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT. THANK, THANK YOU. WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, A CONSTRUCTION SITE THAT'S GONNA END SOON. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY AND WE KNOW THIS BUSINESS IS NOT GOING AWAY. SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO LIVE TOGETHER. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MARJORIE. WE, WE DO HAVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS AND THEN COUNCILOR SMITH. THANK YOU FOR COMING. AND LET ME JUST ASSURE YOU THAT THE CONCERN OF ALL OF US AROUND THIS HORSESHOE IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENFORCEMENT ON THESE VERY MATTERS. UH, AND I SUPPORT THAT FACT. I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT WE, WE ARE A CITY THAT THRIVES FOR BUSINESS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE [01:45:01] WANT TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS AS WELL. SO BE ASSURED THAT I'M, I'M HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO, MIGHT, WAS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ON, TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC SO THAT WE CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO. AND MY CONVERSATION I HAD WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN AND, AND WE AGREED THAT THAT'S SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT TO GET OUTTA CONTROL AND PUT THE BURDEN UPON THE RESIDENT. BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. UM, I, COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN. OKAY. HI . HEY. UH, NO. AND THANK YOU FOR COMING. UH, I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET READINGS BECAUSE OUR OFFICE FUNDED FOR CENTRAL PATROL, NOT JUST THE LOUD NOISE UNIT, WHICH IS ONLY DURING EVENING HOURS, BUT WE ACTUALLY PROVIDED ADDITIONAL SOUND MONITORING EQUIPMENT FOR CENTRAL PATROL GENERALLY, SO THAT IF THERE IS A DAYTIME NEED IN EARLY MORNING NEED, THEY CAN GO OUT THERE AND DO THAT READING. SO. WELL, WE'VE CALLED, I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A YEAR NOW. NO, I UNDERSTAND. I LIVE RIGHT. I GET IT. I DON'T TALK TO YOUR OFFICE. I'M RIGHT THERE. UH, BUT WE, WHEN WE DO CALL, UM, THEY, THEY SAY THE SAME THINGS TO US. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. WE DON'T HAVE THE PROPERTY EQUIPMENT. UM, OR AT THE MOMENT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY DO IT FROM DIFFERENT PROPERTY LINES, WHICH SHOULD BE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE BUSINESS, NOT FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE. BUT I DON'T, TO ME, THE NOISE LEVELS IN THE, WITH YOUR, WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR HOUSE AND YOU COULD STILL HEAR THE NOISE, WHICH MEANS YOU CANNOT ESCAPE IT AT ALL. YOU LOSE YOUR MIND AFTER A WHILE. NO, I, I GET IT. 'CAUSE I HAD PERSONALLY BEEN THROUGH IT, UH, AS OF MANY IN, AGAIN, DISTRICT C. UM, BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF IS SPEAKING DIRECTLY WITH CENTRAL TO COORDINATE A SOUND READING. BUT YOU BRING UP CHAIR TO WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY. I MEAN, GOSH, COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN AND I DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO GET THE READING TO HAPPEN FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE THE NOISE IS OCCURRING RATHER THAN THE COMPLAINANT. MM-HMM . AND WE GOT SO MUCH PUSHBACK. AND NOW THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE ISSUES, MY HOPE, RIGHT, AS LEGAL AND A RA SAY, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, WE CAN BRING IT BACK. IT HAS TO BE FROM THAT, UH, THAT PROPERTY LINE WHERE THE OFFENSE IS OCCURRING, UH, BECAUSE IT JUST, AGAIN, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S BLEEDING INTO YOUR HOMES, BUT IT'S EMITTING FROM THAT LOCATION. RIGHT. I THINK I HEAR YOU. AND MY HOPE IS WE CAN BRING FORWARD THOSE CHANGES TOO. AND THIS MIGHT EVEN WORK WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PEOPLE. THE SAME THING IS WHEN YOU'RE GETTING YOUR PERMITS, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE SOMEBODY GO OUT AND INSPECT THE PROPERTY TO SEE, OKAY, AN AUTOMATED CAR WASH IS GOING TO BE LOUD. SO WHY WOULD YOU EVEN GIVE A PERMIT FOR IT TO BE RIGHT NEXT? I MEAN, RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL HOMES. YEAH. AND THE CHALLENGE THERE IS WITH ZONING, RIGHT? WHEN RESIDENTS HAVE, UH, AT THE, AT THE BALLOT PROJECTED ZONING, I THINK THREE TIMES NOW MM-HMM . UH, WE HAVE ISSUES IN THE HEIGHTS WHERE A GAS STATION IS GOING UP RIGHT NEXT TO A HOME. AND THAT'S THE CASE IN MONTROSE. THAT'S THE CASE IN OTHER PLACES. WE'VE HAD STORAGE UNITS. WE HAVE ONE COMING UP IN GARDEN OAKS WHERE SOMEONE'S BOUGHT PROPERTY AND A WHOLE STORAGE UNIT IS GOING UP NEXT, RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL. SO IT'S A, IT'S A CHALLENGE. AND INCLUDING BARS, WE NOW HAVE BARS BEING PUT IN SHADY ACRES, MID-BLOCK IN BETWEEN HOMES MM-HMM . SO, UH, IT'S A HUGE CHALLENGE. MM-HMM . AND, UH, ANYTIME I THINK THE CITY HAS TRIED TO DO EVEN MORE, WE ALSO HAVE STATE PREEMPTION MM-HMM . WHERE THE STATE IS COMING AND SAYING, NO, NO, NO. CITIES CAN NO LONGER JUST REGULATE THIS GENERALLY. SO IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE, BUT WE WILL KEEP AT IT. AND I'VE LITERALLY, AS YOU'RE TALKING, I'M TEXTING WITH STAFF TO SAY, WHY ISN'T, UH, HPD GOING OUT AT THE TIMES YOU'RE SAYING TO DO THOSE READINGS? 'CAUSE WE PAID FOR ADDITIONAL MONITORS SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN. THANK YOU MARJORIE. UH, AND COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN'S. ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND WE HAVE SOME IDEAS ABOUT HOW, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN BETTER ENFORCE AND OUR CITY PROSECUTORS CAN BETTER PROSECUTE. AND SO WE WILL PURSUE THOSE. BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND ALSO FOR US, MAINLY THE BIGGEST THING IS TRYING TO LIMIT HIS HOURS OF OPERATION AND, AND BECAUSE 12 HOURS A DAY, I'M IN RECEIPT OF THOSE, THOSE SUGGESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, SORRY, WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? WATSON . OKAY. UM, LET'S, IF YOU CAN HOLD ON, UM, I DO HAVE TO LEAVE ALL OF US. OKAY. WELL WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T YOU COME ON UP THEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HATE PEOPLE THAT COVER . THANK YOU. SO, I'M SORRY, STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN. UH, MARTIN PREST. OKAY, GO AHEAD. I'M WITH THE, UH, THE RESPONSIBLE LANDLORDS GROUP AND UH, I WOULD SEND, UH, SOME VERBIAGE TO READ OUT TO YOU, [01:50:01] BUT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE CLIFF NOTES. UH, BASICALLY IT IS TO DO WITH, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY AND, UH, THE, THE REVOCATION PROCESS. AND THAT IS, UH, THERE'S A LIST OF, UH, FELONIES, UM, THAT, UH, WE CAN LOSE THE LICENSE, UH, OVER. AND, UH, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE, UH, DISCHARGING A FIREARM THAT WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW ABOUT, UM, UNTIL WE GOT A NOTE ONE DAY THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE A LICENSE. UM, I DO REALIZE THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE, UH, ORDINANCE RELATING TO APPEALS, BUT THERE'S NO, IT DOESN'T SAY WHERE THE BAR IS. YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE RESPONSIBLE THAN OTHERS. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A A THREE DAY MINIMUM. OCCASIONALLY WE DROP IT TO TWO DAYS. BUT THAT CUTS OUT A LOT OF, UH, PROBLEMS RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE NOT RENTING, UH, HOMES FOR, FOR THREE DAYS FOR A PARTY. UM, THERE'S BASICALLY, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE ARE LEVELS OF RESPONSIBILITY AND UH, ALSO, AND I DID POINT THIS OUT ON TUESDAY WHEN I CAME LAST TUESDAY, THERE IS A DISORDERLY CONDUCT IS ON THERE. MURDER IS NOT. SO YOU CAN HAVE SOMEONE THAT FLIPS THE BIRD OFF TO AN OFFICER, LOSE THEIR LICENSE. BUT IF THERE'S A MURDER TAKES PLACE IN YOUR SHORT TERM RENTAL, THAT'S OKAY. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THAT NEEDS A BIT OF TWEAKING, NEEDS SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHERE THE BAR, YOU KNOW, I CAN SHOP UP TO AN APPEAL AND I CAN SHOW THE STEPS I TAKE, UM, IF I'VE GOT A PROBLEM, I ACTUALLY HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH, WITH ALL OUR NEIGHBORS. SO THEY WOULD CALL US FIRST BEFORE THEY CALL THE POLICE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE WE MAY NOT KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM AND UH, WE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY ADDRESSED IT AT THE MOMENT. UM, AND CAN WE BRING THOSE THINGS UP IN AN APPEAL? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT HAPPENS THERE? THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN. THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR COMING. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET ACROSS AND I DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF THAT, BUT I, I'VE SENT THAT LANGUAGE TO, THAT YOU GUYS SENT TO RASHAD. I SAID WE REALLY NEED TO GET THE RESPONSIBLE OWNERS GROUP A A GOOD RESPONSE. I ASKED ABOUT IT AT THE COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK. ARTUR MICHELLE GAVE A RESPONSE. I HAVE THAT ON TAPE, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A REAL CLEAR NON LEGALESE RESPONSE ON, ON, ON SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE DEALING WITH. 'CAUSE 'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR, I UNDERSTAND THE WORRY THAT YOU'RE, SOME SOMETHING'S GOING ON THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT. YEAH. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU LOSE YOUR ABILITY TO RENT IT OUT FOR A YEAR. SO WE'RE GONNA GET YOU SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. OKAY. AND, AND ONE SMALL THING, I, I WAS SENT, UM, I THINK SONYA FROM YOUR OFFICE SENT ME, THERE WAS ANOTHER AMENDMENT AND IT DIDN'T HI SONYA. IT DIDN'T COME UP TODAY. IT WAS RELATED TO BEING DELISTED. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE REGISTRATION ON THE, UH, SO WE'RE GONNA GET TO ANOTHER ONE HERE. YEAH. SO THAT MAY BE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT, UH, AND I BROUGHT UP ON TUESDAY AT THE, AT THE MEETING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE APPLICATION PROCESS REGISTRATION COULD TAKE SIX MONTHS, FOR EXAMPLE. UM, WHAT DO WE DO IN THE MEANTIME? WE CAN'T LIST. AND I WAS TOLD THAT NO, ONCE YOUR APPLICATION IS IN THAT YOU'RE GOOD. YOU KNOW, UM, BUT NOW I'M SEEING THAT WITH THIS, UH, NEW AMENDMENT THAT WE CAN'T EVEN LIST. I MEAN, DO WE GET THE, THE REGISTRATION NUMBER AS SOON AS WE APPLY? OR IS THAT WHEN YOU GET THE, WHEN YOU'RE APPROVED? I MEAN THERE'S, THAT'S KIND OF A, THERE'S A GRAY AREA THERE. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND I THINK, I THINK A A'S AWARE OF THAT AND, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, PROPOSAL TO, TO ADDRESS THAT. OKAY. SO THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES. RICO GARCIA. SO, UH, IN FAIRNESS, I DID, UH, NEGLECT TO CUT TO ADD ONE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT, PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE, UH, SLIDE DECK. SO IF WE COULD PULL THAT UP AND IF THERE'S A WAY TO BLOW THAT UP, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. SO WELCOME RICO. DO YOU WANT TO, UH, TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENT? ABSOLUTELY. UM, FIRST MY INTRODUCTION TO MY NAME'S RICO GARCIA. HELLO EVERYBODY. UM, I DO WANNA JUST BRING UP ONE THING THAT IS NOT, UM, CONNECTED TO THIS AMENDMENT AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT I THINK TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL. IT'S, UH, THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON MEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM THAT HAS A PRETTY BIG BASKETBALL GAME TONIGHT AND IS A, UH, LAW ALUM. I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD POINT THAT OUT WHILE I'M HERE IN HOUSTON. UM, BUT TO SERIOUS BUSINESS, THE PROPOSAL WE HAVE BEFORE Y'ALL IS SOMETHING THAT WE BELIEVE, UH, WILL HELP THE OVERALL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SYSTEM. THE OVERALL ORDINANCE, WE BELIEVE IS INTENDED TO IMPACT THOUSANDS OF VOTES. AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE ORDINANCE [01:55:01] AS IMPLEMENTED DOES NOT IMPACT THE GOOD ACTORS. AND LIKE WE SAID, WE REALLY HOPE THAT IT IS IMPLEMENTED AS SMOOTHLY AS POSSIBLE AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE LANGUAGE PREVENT PRESENTED IN FRONT OF ALL Y'ALL WILL, UM, ACCOMPLISH SUCH GOALS. OKAY. IS THAT, AND THAT IS MY, THAT IS MY LAYOUT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND SO, UH, ESSENTIALLY THIS WOULD PUT THE ONUS ON THE OWNER, UH, AND OPERATOR TO FILL IN THAT UH, THAT FIELD, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY, ANY COMMENT FROM ANYONE OR, ALRIGHT. GREAT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION AND WE'LL CONSIDER IT. THANK YOU. DOMINIC MAZA. GOOD AFTERNOON DOMINIC MAZA. I AM COUNCIL CHAMBER WITH MRS. DOWN HERE. AND YOU CAN START THE CLOCK. ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION ABOUT THE LADY THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE WELLS AT THE END OF HER SLIDES, UH, THING, SHE HAD HER ADDRESS AND EVERYTHING, EXCEPT FOR ONE THING. THERE WAS NO MENTION THAT SHE CAN GO TO HER OFFICE ON THE 85 WASHINGTON MONTROSE STREET. AND I THINK AS I THINK MOST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, Y'ALL WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE CREDIT. THAT NEEDS TO BE PART, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT POSSIBLY ON THE THING WITH PROPOSITION A MEETING LATER IN THE WEEK. NOW THE THING I'M THINKING ABOUT, I'M JUST LOOKING, I'M JUST LISTENING TO EVERYTHING ABOUT THESE THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED TODAY AND LAST WEEK. I THINK THIS THING IS SO CRITICAL TO HOUSTON PLUS THE FACT WE DON'T HAVE ZONING WHEN ONE SEES THAT DON'T HAVE ZONING. I THINK THIS THING NEEDS TO BE PULLED IN A SENSE. COUNCIL APPROVES IT. WE DO IT IN A VERY METHODICAL METHOD. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT IT'S UH, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE TOMORROW. AND I THINK THIS NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE VOTE OF THE PEOPLE. I MEAN, YOU'RE DEALING WITH PROPERTY HERE AND I THINK WHEN, UH, I THINK IN SOME PEOPLE THINK, OH, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE DOING THIS AND THE OTHER, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO PUT, PUT THEIR X ON A PIECE OF PAPER OR ON A BALLOT MACHINE, UH, THEY GOT SKIN IN THE GAME. AND I THINK THIS, LIKE I SAID, THIS THING NEEDS TO, THIS NEEDS TO GO TO THE PEOPLE. I MEAN, REMEMBER THE PEOPLE ARE THE CITY AND I THINK THAT NEEDS, I'M GONNA BRING UP SOMETHING ON THAT TOO, ON PROP A, UH, ON THURSDAY, BY THE WAY, I DID TAKE METRO. I HAD TO GO OVER TO WALL DRIVE AND GRAY ROAD, UH, AND UH, YEAH, WEST GRAY. AND SO I TOOK UH, THE 96 TO THE 56, DID MY BUSINESS AND CAME BACK HERE ON THE 41. SO I AM BEING LIKE SALLY ON FRIDAYS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOMINIC HOWARD BOOK STAFF. WELCOME. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, GO COS I'M ALSO U OF H, UH, MR CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MY NAME IS HOWARD TAFF. I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH LAW FIRM OF HOOVER SLOVAK IN HOUSTON. I'M GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE HOUSTON APARTMENT ASSOCIATION. WE APPRECIATE THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO ADDRESS CRIME, CRIME, SAFETY AND NUISANCE ISSUES IN, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS. UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE TEN ONE FIFTY FOUR, WHICH IS PART OF THE HABITABILITY ORDINANCE, A MULTI-FAMILY RENTAL BUILDING THAT HAS THREE OR MORE UNITS IS ALREADY REQUIRED TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY. THE REGISTRATION INCLUDES A NUMBER OF THINGS INCLUDING CONTACT INFORMATION OF AT LEAST ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDING UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE 28 2 83, WHICH IS PART OF THE THE CRIME ORDINANCE. ALL APARTMENT COMMUNITIES WITH 10 OR MORE UNITS ARE REQUIRED TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY. THIS REGISTRATION INCLUDES A NUMBER OF THINGS, INCLUDING CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE OWNER AND THE MANAGER. AND IF IT'S A MANAGEMENT COMPANY, THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY AS WELL. REGISTRATION UNDER TEN ONE FIFTY FOUR CONSTITUTES REGISTRATION UNDER 28,283 TO AVOID DOUBLE REGISTRATION. IN LIGHT OF THESE EXISTING REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE A FEW CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. IF AN OWNER OF A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING DECIDES TO RENT A UNIT ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS, THE OWNER WOULD HAVE TO REGISTER TWICE, ONCE UNDER THE HABITABILITY ORDINANCE AND ONCE UNDER THIS SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. IF A TENANT OF A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING DECIDES TO RENT THEIR UNIT ON A SHORT TERM BASIS, THE TENANT WOULD, WOULD REGISTER UNDER THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. BUT THE UNIT WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN INCLUDED UNDER THE OWNER'S REGISTRATION. UNDER THE HABITABILITY ORDINANCE, THE CITY WERE TO ALREADY HAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE OWNER TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES [02:00:01] REGARDING CRIME, SAFETY AND NUISANCE. UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS UNDER THE AMENDMENTS IS WHO HAS TO REGISTER UNDER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. EACH OWNER OR OPERATOR TO, DEPENDING ON WHICH AMENDMENT IS, IS, IS SOUGHT, IS, IS CONSIDERED, HAVE TO REGISTER. MAY I CONTINUE? YOU CAN GO AHEAD. UNDER THE UH, SECTION 28 7 21, THE TERM OPERATOR MEANS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO OPERATES OR OTHERWISE MANAGES THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. IN ESSENCE, THE MANAGER OF THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING WILL STILL NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AN OPERATOR UNDER THE ORDINANCE AND MAY BE REQUIRED TO REGISTER EMERGENCY INFORMATION TO BE IDENTIFIED IN THE REGISTRATION UNDER SECTION 28 7 31 B FIVE REQUIRES THE REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE, CONTAIN NAMES AND 24 HOUR TELEPHONE NUMBERS OF ONE OR MORE EMERGENCY CONTACT PERSONS WHO SHALL BE THE OWNER OPERATOR OR DESIGNATED AGENT. AND WHO IS OTHER AUTHORIZED TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCY CONDITIONS. EMERGENCY CONDITIONS DEFINED IN THE ORDINANCE INCLUDE DISASTERS, NOISE VIOLATIONS, AND CRIMES. AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THE CITY WOULD TURN TO, NOT TO THE TENANT TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, BUT TO THE OWNER, OBVIOUSLY WITH RESPECT TO MANY EMERGENCY CONCERNS, THE FIRST RESPONDERS SHOULD BE THE FIRST TO CALL. HOWEVER, TO THE EXTENT THE PROPERTY IS TO BE CONTACTED, THE CITY CAN TURN TO THE OWNER OR MANAGER AGAIN THE CONTACT INFORMATION THEY ALREADY HAVE UNDER THE EXISTING ORDINANCES. SO, HOWARD, SORRY TO INTERRUPT. YEAH. WHEN, WHEN YOU SPEAK OF CONTACT INFORMATION, DO YOU MEAN THE REGISTERED AGENT OR AN EMERGENCY CONTACT THAT CAN BE REACHED 24 7? NO, THERE IS, UM, THERE IS EXTENSIVE IN, IN, UM, TEN ONE FIFTY FOUR FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S EXTENSIVE INSTRUMENT, THE NAME, MAILING ADDRESS, PHYSICAL MAILING ADDRESS, TELEPHONE NUMBER, EMAIL ADDRESS OF AT LEAST ONE OWNER OF THE MULTIFAMILY DWELLING IN THE CRIME ORDINANCE. IT'S THE NAME OR BUSINESS OR RESIDENCE ADDRESS INCLUDING THE, THE ADDRESS, ZIP CODE OF THE CURRENT MANAGER OR THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY OF THE PROPERTY. IF THE MANAGER'S, OTHER THAN AN INDIVIDUAL, SO THIS IS IN EXISTING ORDINANCE WHERE THE CITY HAS THE CONTACT. PLUS UNDER THE HABITABILITY ORDINANCE THERE HAS TO BE A SIGN POSTED AT A PROPERTY. AGAIN, THIS IS THREE OR MORE UNITS NOTICE TO ALL RESIDENTS, UM, IN ENGLISH AND IN SPANISH. IF ANY CONDITION CREATE, UH, ANY, IF ANY CONDITION OF THIS BUILDING CREATES A HAZARD TO HUMAN SAFETY OR HEALTH REPORT THE CONDITION TO THE BUILDING'S MANAGER OR OWNER, YOU ALSO MAY REPORT THE CONDITION TO THE CITY UNDER 3 1 1. SO THAT'S ALREADY POSTED, REQUIRED TO BE POSTED AT APARTMENT PROPERTIES. OKAY. HOWARD, UM, DO YOU HAVE MUCH MORE? 'CAUSE WE REALLY HAVE TO MOVE ON. COUNCIL MEMBER, I ONLY HAVE MY REQUEST THAT WE BE EXEMPT THAT ANYBODY WHO HAS TO REGISTER UNDER EITHER THESE ORDINANCE BE EXEMPT FROM THIS ORDINANCE. OKAY. YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE TO DOUBLE REGISTER. ALRIGHT. UNDERSTOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN. NO, I I WANTED TO THANK UH, THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION FOR BEING HERE AND COMING, UH, PROVIDING PRODUCTIVE FEEDBACK. DID YOU HAVE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE COULD SUBMIT TO A RA FOR REVIEW? YES, WE HAVE UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENT LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE COPIES OF AND I CAN GIVE COPIES TO WHOEVER I NEED TO. GREAT. AND AGAIN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, 'CAUSE THERE'S LAWYER TO LAWYER, LOTS OF LEGALESE THERE, BUT BASICALLY Y'ALL ARE JUST ASKING TO REMOVE DUPLICATIVE, UM, REGISTRATIONS WE'RE YOU'RE NOT EXCLUDING, UH, APARTMENTS FROM SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE. THE AMENDMENTS WE PROPOSE TENANTS WOULD STILL REGISTER IF THEY'RE DOING SHORT TERM RENTAL, BUT THE OWNERS THAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM REGISTRATION. GREAT. AND I BELIEVE THERE HAD BEEN ONE THING WE HAD TALKED ABOUT OFFLINE, ABOUT POTENTIALLY, UH, INCLUDING A NEW COMPONENT WHERE THEY'RE, TO CHAIRMAN YOUR POINT, ABLE TO REACH SOMEBODY AFTER HOURS IF NEEDED. UH, ARE Y'ALL OPEN TO INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION IN THE CURRENT FORM OF REGISTRATION? YEAH. AND THEN WE GOT INTO A DISCUSSION OF HOW WOULD THAT WORK AS FAR AS IS THE CITY INTENDING TO, TO GET AHOLD OF SOMEBODY 24 7 OR WHO WOULD GET AHOLD OF SOMEONE 24 7? WOULD IT BE THE, THE TENANT, THE OCCUPANT, THE NEIGHBORING OCCUPANT? WHO IS THAT? BECAUSE MOST DEPARTMENT COMMUNITIES ALREADY OFFER A EMERGENCY RESPONSE LIKE EMERGENCY MAINTENANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT. I WOULD WANT TO, WHATEVER ORDINANCE IS DRAFTED TO EXPRESSLY STATE THAT WE ARE NOT THE FIRST RESPONDERS. RIGHT. UNDERSTOOD. YEAH, I THINK IT'S MORE FROM AN ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE, BUT A RA CAN CERTAINLY OPINE ON THAT IN THE DIALOGUE AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S AN OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION THERE. WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH ANYBODY. TERRIFIC. THANK, THANK YOU HOWARD. AND UM, I THINK WE'LL HEAR FROM ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES NOW. CASEY MORGAN? NO. I'LL MY TIME I DON'T. OKAY. UM, JUST GOKU, THAT'S ALL WANTS TO SAY. ALRIGHT, WELL HOLD ON THEN HOWARD, BECAUSE, UM, WE SPOKE EARLIER [02:05:01] AND YOU GUYS DO HAVE AN OPINION REGARDING AMENDMENTS ONE A VERSUS ONE B, ONE A BEING OPERATOR, UH, ONE B BEING OWNER OR OPERATOR. WHAT'S, WHAT'S YOUR POSITION IF YOU HAVE ONE ON THAT? WELL, ASSUMING OUR EXEMPTION TAKES PLACE, THEN IT'S REALLY UP TO Y'ALL. I MEAN, UH, WE WOULD PREFER JUST THE OWNER, BUT IF IT'S OWNER OR OPERATOR, WE'D PREFER A CLARIFICATION THAT THE PROPERTY MANAGER IS NOT INVOLVED. BUT IF IT'S, IF WE HAVE THE EXEMPTION OF THREE OR MORE UNITS, THEN THE MANAGER OR OWNER WOULD NOT BE REGISTERING. IT'D BE THE TENANT THAT OPERATES THE, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REGISTER, WHICH WE THINK IS FAIR. MM-HMM . AND TO THAT POINT, UM, I THINK THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU ALL ARE SUBMITTING IN PUTS THE BURDEN ON THE TENANT. WHO IN EFFECT IS THE OPERATOR, IS THAT RIGHT? WE WOULD THINK THE TENANT IS THE OPERATOR. OKAY. 'CAUSE THE CITY ALREADY HAS THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY OR OWNERS CONTACT INFORMATION UNDER CHAPTER 10. CHAPTER FOUR. FOUR. OKAY. WE KIND OF FOCUSED ON THE REASONS FOR THE ORDINANCE FIRST CRIME, UH, SAFETY AND NUISANCE AND SAY, OKAY, WE WANNA KNOW ABOUT IT IF WE'RE OPERATE, IF IT'S OUR PRIMARY PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL OR OTHERWISE, AND THERE'S A PROBLEM, WE WANNA KNOW ABOUT IT AND THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO CONTACT US NOW. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND YOU GOT CASEY'S TIME AS WELL, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CALL CASEY. UH, JASON GINSBURG. WELCOME JASON. GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON FOLKS. UM, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD TO UH, THE APARTMENTS, UH, I'M KIND OF OBJECTING TO THE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, HAVING A SPECIAL CARVE OUT FOR APARTMENTS, BUT NOT FOR, UH, PEOPLE THAT WOULD, UH, AN OPERATOR THAT WOULD HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES ON, ON A BLOCK FACE ON, ON A CORNER. UM, I DON'T SEE WHY ONE WOULD BE, UH, TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE OTHER. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, WHAT, WHAT I DO THINK YOU CAN DO IS YOU SHOULD REALLY HAVE A DENSITY LIMIT BY BLOCK FACE. UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN UPHELD BY A FEDERAL COURT BECAUSE, UH, NEW ORLEANS HAS A, HAS SUCH A DENSITY LIMIT. SO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT MAY WANNA LOOK INTO THAT. AND THE WAY YOU GET AROUND IT IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION IS YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GRANDFATHER THE, UH, EXISTING OPERATORS, UM, AND THEN IMPOSE THE DENSITY LIMIT GOING FORWARD. IF YOU COME UP WITH THAT GRANDFATHERING SYSTEM, UH, YOU GET EVERYONE TO HURRY UP AND REGISTER, RIGHT, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT THEY'VE GOT. UH, IT MAKES THEIR REGISTRATION MORE VALUABLE. AND USUALLY IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE VALUABLE, YOU TEND TO TAKE BETTER CARE OF IT, AND YOU'RE, YOU SAFEGUARD IT AND YOU PROTECT AGAINST VIOLATIONS THAT COULD CO COULD CONCEIVABLY CAUSE YOU TO, TO LOSE YOUR REGISTRATION. AND IF SOMETHING'S MORE VALUABLE, PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY USUALLY WILLING TO PAY MORE FOR IT. AND I'VE ALWAYS HAD THE POSITION THAT, UH, THE REGISTRATION FEE HERE SHOULD BE, UH, THE PROPOSED REGISTRATION FEE SHOULD BE MUCH HIGHER. UM, IT SHOULD BE THE, AT LEAST THE $500 THAT ARLINGTON CHARGES, IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST THE $500 THAT NEW ORLEANS CHARGES. AND THE REASON WHY IS, IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT A REGISTRATION FEE CAN ONLY GO TOWARDS, UH, REGULATING THE ACTIVITY THAT'S BEING REGISTERED. WELL, HERE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE AN ABSOLUTE BELIEF THAT YOU CAN HAVE, UH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY TOWARDS AN HPD TASK FORCE FOR SDRS, FOR LOUD NOISES, FOR, FOR WHAT HAVE YOU. YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, WHEN THE CITY CHARGES MONEY TO A, UH, UH, FOR ME TO GET MY WATER HEATER INSPECTED, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. THAT FEE COVERS THE INSPECTOR, BUT THE INSPECTOR'S NOT GOING TO COME OUT AT TWO IN THE MORNING TO BREAK UP A POOL PARTY, RIGHT? ONLY AN HPD OFFICER CAN DO THAT. ONLY A LICENSED PEACE OFFICER CAN DO THAT. AND SO I BELIEVE IT'S ENTIRELY LEGAL TO UP THE REGISTRATION FEE AND HAVE THAT, UH, AND HAVE IT THAT COVER A, A GREATER, UH, POLICE COVERAGE, A GREATER POLICE, UH, ATTENTION. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT. THANK YOU, JASON. UM, AND SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. MIGUEL REMEN. LEV, WELCOME. GO AHEAD, MIGUEL. THANKS. UM, YEAH, AS IN LIFE, THERE ARE GOOD ACTORS AND BAD ACTORS IN THIS CASE. YOU'VE GOT THOSE THAT ARE GONNA FOCUS PURELY ON THE PROFIT MOTIVE AND THOSE THAT ARE GONNA [02:10:01] FOCUS ON THE PROFIT MODEM WHILE MOTIVE, WHILE ACTIVELY DEGRADING THE QUALITY OF LIFE AROUND THEM. SO I THINK FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY SIX OF THESE WITH FIVE BEDROOMS A PIECE, IT'S, IT SEEMS FUNCTIONALLY EQUIVALENT TO, UH, HAVING A 30 UNIT, UM, MUR OR MULTIFAMILY PLACE. AND, AND MAYBE WORSE. SO I APPLAUD THE EFFORTS TO INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY IN HERE, AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO BE VERY WARY OF STRIKING WHOLE WITH, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT MUCH THOUGHT AMENDMENT THREE, BECAUSE IF IT'S, IF IT'S CURRENTLY OPERATING IN SAN ANTONIO, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SOME DEFENSIBILITY. BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THE, UH, FUNDING AND ENFORCEMENT. ON THE 12 NINE STR PRESENTATION, IT MENTIONS A COST SERVICE STUDY OF 273. I GUESS THAT'S A MAGIC NUMBER, BUT LET'S SAY THERE ARE 8,000 OR 10,000 SST R LIKELY IT'S GONNA BALLOON TO 15,000 ONCE THIS SORT OF PSEUDO REGULATION PROCESS PASSES NEXT WEEK OR WHENEVER IT DOES AT 2 75 A POP. THAT'S BETWEEN THREE AND 4 MILLION IN ANNUAL FEE INCOME, PLUS ANY FINES. UM, BUT I GUESS, YOU KNOW, IN THE SPIRIT OF AVOIDING MAXIMUM EFFORT, WE ALREADY PASSED ON THE, UH, FOUR YEAR $1.6 MILLION, IS IT, UH, KOFT CONTRACT IN RESTON, VIRGINIA. SO THAT'S 400,000 A YEAR ALREADY OUT THE DOOR. IF YOU TAKE THE CITY'S OWN DATA WITH 15,000 STR, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL FOUR TO 5,000 HPD CALLS PER YEAR. AND ANOTHER 1003 ONE ONE CALLS HARD TO SAY WHAT, WHAT IT'LL COST. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE INFORMATION PULLED TOGETHER BACK IN 2017 FOR THE CRISIS CALL DIVERSION PROGRAM OF THE MENTAL HEALTH DIVISION, IT WORKED OUT TO ABOUT $199 PER ADDITIONAL CALL THAT WAS 2016 DATA. SO JUST USING, YOU KNOW, A CPI CALCULATOR AND NOT INCLUDING OUR SPECIAL DETAILS CONTRACTS OVER TIME, THAT'S ABOUT 261 FOR H 26 $1 PER HBD CALL, AND PROBABLY 1800 IF THE HFD IS CALLED. SO, UM, CONTINUE WITH JUST 30 SECONDS MORE, IF YOU COULD WRAP IT UP. YEAH. SO WE KNOW IT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THOSE WITHOUT THE COST OF REGULATION, YOU'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT NEARLY $200 PER UNIT. SO I AGREE WITH JASON THAT THE FEE IS FAR TOO SHORT, AND I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IF IT EXISTS TO LOOK AT THE COST OF SERVICE STUDY THAT YIELDED THE $273. OKAY. DOES THAT EXIST? I'M SORRY? DOES THAT EXIST OR IS THAT, IS THAT SHAREABLE? WE, WE WILL GET WITH, UH, A RA ON THAT AND, AND RESPOND TO YOU. GOT IT. THANK YOU. CATHERINE MCNEIL, WELCOME. GO AHEAD. HI, COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. AND WE APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENTS AROUND THE MULTIFAMILY. THAT'S THE ONE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS DEALING WITH. UM, SINCE OUR UNIT, OUR MULTIFAMILY UNIT IS ABOUT 22 UNITS, AND IT IS A BAD ACTOR WHO OWNS IT. MY QUESTION AND DIRECTION TO TAKE THE QUESTION TO IS WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T REGISTER? WE HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THERE ARE AIRBNB, THE APARTMENTS ARE BEING USED FOR AIRBNB. WHERE DO WE GO? DO WE COME TO THE CITY? IS IT HPD? UH, WHAT IS THE ENFORCEMENT AROUND THAT AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT? WELL, UM, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR A RA ON THIS, BUT THAT PROPERTY IS WELL KNOWN. AND SO IF WE DON'T GET A REGISTRATION FROM THEM, WE'LL KNOW ABOUT IT. AND I BELIEVE THERE IS PROVISION IN THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW, UH, FOR CITATION AND FINES TO BE ISSUED FOR THE FAILURE TO REGISTER. AND, UH, IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYTHING DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, WHAT IF THERE'S DENIAL THOUGH, COUNCIL MEMBER, I MEAN, WE HAVE HAD THEM KICKED OFF OF EXPEDIA AND, AND, UM, AIRBNB AND VRBO ALL OWNED BY EXPEDIA. UM, SO, BUT WE SEE IT DAILY. WE SEE THE MAIDS COME IN AND CLEAN. WE SEE THE PEOPLE COME IN WITH SUITCASES AND LEAVE. UH, SO I, UH, SO I'M STRUGGLING WITH SO MUCH OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID THIS AFTERNOON THAT I'M TRYING TO STAY FOCUSED ON THIS ISSUE RIGHT NOW ON JUST THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, IF THERE IS A REGULATION PASSED, WHICH, AND, UH, WHERE WE GO FOR ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE ACTING, WE HAVE A BAD ACTOR. AND, AND, AND THAT'S NOT Y'ALL'S FAULT. I MEAN, WE HAVE A BAD ACTOR, BUT, UM, AND, UH, [02:15:01] AND I JUST WANNA SAY, AND THIS MAY BE REALLY NAIVE AND OUTTA MY FRUSTRATION, BUT WE'RE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS TOO. MM-HMM . AND, UH, WE CARE ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS. ABSOLUTELY. UH, I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. I AGREE AS WELL WITH YOUR POINT ON ENFORCEMENT, UM, THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL. SO, UH, I FEEL FOR YOU. AND WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN, AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CAYMAN IN THE QUEUE. HI, CATHERINE. ON YOUR, ON YOUR QUESTION ABOUT ENFORCEMENT, I'M AFRAID IT'S THE SAME OLD STORY YOU CITE AND CITE AND CITE AND CITE. YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEM TO BE ADJUDICATED, UM, WHICH IS A LONG TIME PERIOD. AND UNTIL THE CITY DOES INJUNCTIONS, THE CITY OR THE COUNTY OR WHOEVER DOES INJUNCTIONS ON AGAINST LIKE A NUISANCE PROPERTY, KIND OF LIKE WE DO WITH BARS, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY WAY TO GET 'EM TO STOP OPERATING. UM, WE WILL ONLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO REVOKE PERMITS, AND THEN IF THEY KEEP DOING IT, WE CAN LIKE, YOU KNOW, PUT ANOTHER CITATION OUT AND ANOTHER CITATION OUT. IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING. BUT, BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH SOME OF THE BARS IS THEN WE DO DO, DO AN INJUNCTION. THERE IS A LAWSUIT, AND THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING CLOSED DOWN. NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A, A DIRECT CORRELATION TO WHAT WE'LL DO WITH THIS, BUT I'M AFRAID THERE'S NO, YOU'LL HAVE POLICE CALL, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. A RA WILL BE IN CHARGE OF, OF KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THAT AND HOW TO RE WHEN TO REVOKE PERMITS. BUT I KNOW SOMEBODY LIKE BANKS, THEY'RE JUST GONNA KEEP OPERATING. SO, I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE UP TO LEGAL TO PUT A, PUT A LEGAL CHALLENGE, PUT AN INJUNCTION OUT AND, AND GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT STARTED. THAT'S, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS ON THAT. I, CATHERINE, THANK YOU. AND I WAS GONNA YIELD MY TIME TO YOU AGAIN, WHEN I TALK ABOUT HOW ALL OF THIS GOT STARTED, IT GOT STARTED BECAUSE OF WHAT Y'ALL WERE DEALING WITH. UM, SO IF WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE, THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME. UH, SO DID YOU WANT TO, AGAIN, SAY ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I JUST, I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO FEEL CUT OFF. I DON'T FEEL CUT OFF. THANK YOU. YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN ME TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ACCESS, AND SADLY, I'M ALSO SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING TOMORROW. UM, SO I, UH, I, I, I THINK WHAT'S LINGERING, UH, FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE, WHEN I TOOK THE AMENDMENTS BACK TO OUR NEIGHBORS, THEIR RESPONSE WAS, UH, THERE'S STILL A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHY IF IT'S TOTALLY AIRBNB, NOT EVEN TWO OF 22 OR 25%, IF IT'S TOTAL AIRBNB, THEY'RE CHECKING IN AND CHECKING OUT WHY IS THAT NOT A HOTEL? AND, UM, SO THERE'S THAT LINGERING QUESTION. AND THEN ALSO ENFORCEMENT, DO WE NEED TO TAKE PICTURES? DO WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE SAY, YES, WE CAME HERE FOR AIRBNB. I MEAN, WHAT TYPE OF EVIDENCE DO WE NEED TO BRING FORTH TO WHOEVER IT IS? I THINK ALL OF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. ABSOLUTELY. I'D LOVE FOR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE NOISE READINGS THEMSELVES. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN, IN CONTEXT OF NOISE. BUT YES, ABSOLUTELY ANY DOCUMENTATION YOU COULD PROVIDE IS ALWAYS HELPFUL. MAYBE C CATHERINE, IF I COULD PROPOSE TO THAT END, IF AND WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE, AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE TAGGED THIS WEEK, WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORKUP TO DO, A LOT OF FEEDBACK TO TAKE IN, UM, HAVING THE DEPARTMENTS AND HPD COME OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO WALK THROUGH EVERYTHING, ALTHOUGH Y'ALL ARE VERY NUANCED, BUT TO TALK ABOUT FROM THE ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED RESIDENTS TO SUBMIT AND WEAR, LIKE ALMOST LIKE A TRAINING, UM, AS WE DEAL WITH THIS, THAT THAT MAY HELP TO GIVE ACCESS TO THE QUESTIONS THEY'RE ASKING DIRECTLY FROM THE DEPARTMENTS. BUT I'M ALSO OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS OF HOW TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU, CATHERINE. THANK YOU TED POWELL. GOOD AFTERNOON, TED. OH, GO AHEAD. WHAT DO I JUST, OKAY, . SO, UM, I, UH, [02:20:01] WANTED TO FOCUS ON AMENDMENT THREE, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE DENSITY AMENDMENT AND, UM, THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN, I KNOW YOU'VE CHANGED, UH, WE TALKED ON FRIDAY ABOUT THE DEFINITION. YOU HAD MULTIUNIT NO MORTY FAMILY. IT'S BOTH IN CHAPTER 42, SECTION ONE DEFINITIONS, BUT BROADLY, UH, MORE CIVICALLY. I WANTED TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THE WAY, THE WAY THE OR ORDINANCES, UH, AMENDMENT THREE IS WRITTEN AND THE FACT THAT YOU ALSO, OVERALL, YOU HAVE A DIRECTOR WHO MAY BE A CONTRACTOR, NOT WORK FOR THE CITY, SO NOT, MAY NOT BE IN THE WEEDS. HE'S GONNA LOOK AT THIS DEFINITION AND THEN HE'S GOING TO LOOK AT THE APPLICATIONS AND SAY, OH, DOES THIS, IS THIS FIT WITHIN THE DENSITY CLAUSE? AND THE REASON IT SPECIFICALLY PERTAINS TO ME IS THAT 10 YEARS AGO, I TOOK A 1915 HOME AND I WENT TO THE CITY TO GET A PERMIT TO REMODEL IT AND TO REMODEL IT. I, UM, I PUT A, UM, EN SUITE OR AN APARTMENT OR A DU, UH, IN THE BACK OF THE UPSTAIRS, I ALSO FILED FOR REPLACING THE OLD CARRIAGE HOUSE WITH A GARAGE APARTMENT, UH, THAT WAS NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT ALL UNDER THE CLASSIFICATION OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. UM, AND SO THE POINT I WANNA MAKE HERE IS THE DIRECTOR NEEDS TO BE GIVEN MORE DIRECTION ON HOW HE'S GOING TO DETERMINE. IT'S NOT JUST A DEFINITION, IT'S A CLASSIFICATION. AND IF YOU GO TO HAD, WHICH IS WHERE, UH, THEY USE THE STATE CODES, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CAN GO IN HCA AND LOOK AT ANY PROPERTY. THE DIRECTOR COULD DO THAT. UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS A ONE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S OUR HOUSE, EVEN WITH THESE TWO ADUS. UH, AND, UH, THEN, UH, MULTIFAMILY AND THEY HAVE MULTIPLE ONES, OR THE B ONE THROUGH B FOUR. I'LL ALSO MENTION THAT I'VE COME ACROSS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ATTACHED TO A RESTAURANT. IT IS, IT IS F1, SO YOUR CODE WON'T APPLY TO THAT APARTMENT HOUSE. BUT, UM, THE, THE FACT IS THAT IT SHOULD BE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, CLASSIFICATION IS IMPORTANT. AND THE OTHER THING I'LL JUST MENTION IS THIS, UH, THREE TO THREE OR MORE UNITS. YOU HAVE THIS 25% RULE. AND WHAT REALLY GOT ME WHEN I HIT THE CEILING WHEN I SAW THIS, SO THEY SAID, WELL, IF THE DIRECTOR LOOKED AT THAT AND APPLIED THE DEFINITION, I, I HAVE THREE UNITS. SO MY HOUSE WHERE, WHERE MY WIFE AND I LIVE, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO ADUS. OH, YOU THREE, YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE. 'CAUSE YOU'RE 33, ANYONE IS 33% OF I CAN'T MEET THE 20. I WOULD NEVER BE GRANTED ANYTHING. AND SO THAT'S A PROBLEM IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH THIS THREE OR MORE THAT THE POOR, POOR GUY THAT OWNS A THREE UNIT, HE CAN'T EVEN GET A QUALIFIER FOR A, A SHORT TERM RENTAL. OKAY, THANK YOU TED. WE'RE LISTENING. SEBASTIAN LAW. OKAY. WELCOME. HI, GO AHEAD. HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M THE CEO OF LODGER HOUSTON BAY, SHORT TERM AND CORPORATE HOUSING OPERATOR. I'M GONNA COMMENT IN QUICKLY ON AMENDMENT THREE. UM, BECAUSE I THINK DENSITY IS ONLY AN ISSUE IF YOU HAVE BAD ACTORS. WE OPERATE, UH, AT HIGH DENSITY. WE DON'T HAVE THESE ISSUES. WE'VE SAFELY HOSTED OVER 10,000 GUESTS IN CLASS A APARTMENT COMMUNITIES. WE SCREEN OUR GUESTS, COLLECT GOVERNMENT IDS AND USE NOISE AND SMOKE SENSORS TO MONITOR BEHAVIOR. OUR INCIDENT RATE IS LOWER THAN THAT OF TYPICAL RESIDENTS OR HOMEOWNERS. ACCORDING TO HOUSTON'S POLICE DEPARTMENTS DATA, THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR HOSTS WHO ALLOW GUESTS TO DISRUPT NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT THE REALITY IS, THE BAD ACTORS ARE NOT THE ONES REGISTERING PAYING TAXES OR SPEAKING AT THESE EVENTS. WE ARE JUST AS FRUSTRATED AS YOU ARE. DON'T PUNISH THE 99.9% OF LAW ABIDING OPERATORS FOR THE ACTIONS OF A TINY MINORITY. STRS PROVIDE ESSENTIAL HOUSING FOR CANCER PATIENTS, TRAVEL NURSES, STORM EVACUEES, AND OTHERS EXPERIENCING LIFE TRANSITIONS. THESE ARE NOT PARTY HOUSES. THIS IS HOUSTON, NOT VEGAS, KNOWN AS FLYING INTO TRASH NEIGHBORHOOD. THE AVERAGE GUEST IS HERE FOR WORK RELOCATION OR MEDICAL CARE. WE URGE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN ADDITION TO REVIEWING AMENDMENT THREE, WHICH OUR GENERAL COUNSEL GETTING IN TOUCH WITH, UM, FIRSTLY AROUND THE EMERGENCY CONTACT REQUIREMENTS. CURRENT LANGUAGE IS CONFUSING. OPERATORS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PUBLISH A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT NUMBER, LIKE A TOLL FREE. FOR EXAMPLE, A NUMBER THAT CAN BE REACHED 24 7 IF ACTION IS REQUIRED. WE SHOULDN'T BE PUBLISHING PERSONAL PHONE NUMBERS OR EXPECTING NAMED INDIVIDUALS TO ALWAYS BE ON CALL TO RAISES LABOR AND PRIVACY CONCERNS. SECONDLY, EXTEND PERMIT TERMS TO THREE YEARS. THIS WILL REDUCE ADMINISTRATIVE OVERHEAD AND LOWER THE COST BURDEN ON OPERATORS, ESPECIALLY THOSE OFFERING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS. IT'S ALSO FREE UP CITY RESOURCES TO WORK WITH ENFORCEMENT INSTEAD OF PROCESSING PAPERWORK EVERY SINGLE YEAR FROM THE GOOD GUYS. FINALLY, ADD SAFEGUARDS FOR NEW LISTINGS [02:25:01] AFTER JANUARY 1ST, 2026. YOU'VE ALREADY SAID THAT LISTINGS THAT APPLY BY JANUARY 1ST WILL BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE OPERATING DURING PROCESSING IF THERE ARE BACKLOGS. WE WOULD LIKE THE SAME PRESUMPTION OF COMPLIANCE FOR NEW LISTINGS LAUNCHED AFTER THAT BECAUSE EVERY CITY HAS HAD TERRIBLE BACKLOGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SEBASTIAN. PHILIP CARRANZA, PHILIP CARRANZA, SEAN MCFARLAND, WELCOME. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? HELLO COUNCIL MEMBERS? UH, MY NAME IS SEAN MCFARLAND AND I'M THE OWNER OF A FOURPLEX IN DISTRICT C MONTROSE AREA. UM, I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY OPERATED MY SHORT TERM RENTAL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, WITHOUT INCIDENT. I'VE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS. NO, NO NEIGHBOR COMPLAINTS, UH, NO POLICE CALLS OUT THERE. UM, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY SPECIFICALLY ABOUT AMENDMENTS TWO AND THREE, WHICH PROPOSE RESTRICTIVE MEASURES THAT WOULD SEVERELY IMPACT RESPONSIBLE OPERATORS LIKE MYSELF. UM, BEFORE I ADDRESS THE CONCERNS, I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THE POSITIVE CONTRIBUTIONS MY PROPERTY PROVIDES TO OUR CITY, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN ALSO EXPLAINED BY, UH, YOU GUYS AS WELL AS SOME OTHER MEMBERS THAT HAVE COME UP HERE. UM, SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT IT SUPPORTS CLEANERS, MAINTENANCE PEOPLE, UH, LOCAL BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS, SHOPS EVERYWHERE THAT PEOPLE THAT COME INTO THIS TOWN, UM, SPEND MONEY. UH, MANY OF MY GUESTS ARE INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES WHO COME TO HOUSTON, UH, FOR MEDICAL TREATMENTS AND THEY GO TO THE MEDICAL CENTER. UM, I'VE HAD, UH, INTERNS THAT COME INTO TOWN DURING THE SUMMER. UH, PEOPLE COME IN FOR BUSINESS TRIPS AND THEN OF COURSE TOURISM. UM, I'VE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT AS MENTIONED BEFORE. I'VE NEVER HAD THE POLICE CALLED OUT TO MY PROPERTY IN THE THREE YEARS THAT I'VE, UH, THAT I'VE BEEN OPERATING THERE. AND, UM, ON THE TWO AMENDMENTS, SO AMENDMENT TWO PROPOSES THAT IF 25% OR MORE OF AN OPERATOR'S UNITS, UH, IN A MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTY HAVE THEIR PERMITS REVOKED, THEN ALL REMAINING UNITS WILL BE REVOKED AS WELL. I THINK THIS IS, UH, OVERLY PUNITIVE BECAUSE IT COULD ELIMINATE MY ENTIRE BUILDING IF I JUST HAVE TOO BAD. YES. AND I'VE JUST GOT A FOURPLEX. I DON'T HAVE A 40 UNIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO, UM, MAY I CONTINUE? IF YOU COULD WRAP IT UP. SURE. UM, THE BIGGER CONCERN FOR ME IS OBVIOUSLY AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, WHICH WOULD RESTRICT MY ABILITY TO, TO, UM, TO BE ABLE TO LIST ALL FOUR OF MY UNITS. SO I WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO JUST ONE UNIT AND I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM. SO, UM, THAT WOULD JUST BE VERY BURDENSOME FOR ME TO NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. UM, AND I WOULD REALLY, I THINK THERE'S ALREADY PLENTY OF THINGS IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS NOISE COMPLAINTS, UH, ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, SAFETY CONCERNS THAT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO NECESSARILY HAVE A DENSITY, UH, RESTRICTION ADDED WHEN WE CAN ALREADY USE THE EXISTING, UM, THINGS THAT ARE IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. SO, UH, JUST WOULD RESPECTFULLY LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO RECONSIDER AMENDMENTS TWO AND THREE, UM, AND TAKE THEM OUT OR, OR NOT PUT THEM IN, I SHOULD SAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU RAJESH. JAJU, WELCOME. GO AHEAD. WELL THANK YOU COUNCIL PEOPLE FOR, YOU KNOW, GIVING US A CHANCE TO TALK. I RUN A SMALL BUSINESS HERE IN THE CITY PROVIDING, UM, SHORT TERM HOUSING. AND OUR MAIN BUSINESS IS PROVIDE HOUSING FOR WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A DISASTER, LIKE IF YOUR HOUSE FLOODS OR HAS A FIRE, WHERE YOU GONNA LIVE WHILE YOU ARE HOUSE IS GETTING REPAIRED. SO THAT'S WHERE I COME IN. I PROVIDE FURNISHED HOUSING FOR THESE FAMILIES. SOMETIMES THEY STAY THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, NINE MONTHS, DEPENDING HOW BAD THE HOUSE IS. BUT THAT CANNOT BE MY, YOU KNOW, CANNOT FILL THE PLACE ALL THE TIME. SO IN BETWEEN GAPS, WE USE A SHORT TERM RENTAL TO FILL UP OUR HOUSES TO PAY THE BILLS AND OBVIOUSLY PROVIDE A SERVICE. AND MOST [02:30:01] OF MY HOUSES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME FOR FAMILY GATHERINGS OR REUNIONS OR COLLEGE GRADUATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THESE ARE NOT PARTY HOUSES. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE FULL, UH, YOU KNOW, ID CHECK AND EVERYTHING BEFORE ANYBODY COMES AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO DON'T WANT IT TO BE A PARTY HOUSE. I'M FRIENDS WITH ALL MY NEIGHBORS JUST TO, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, I ALSO DON'T WANT ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING. SO IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, THEY CAN MESSAGE ME. SO I'M ON THE RIGHT PAGE WITH EVERYONE. AND, UH, WE ARE ALREADY PAYING 17%, UH, TOTAL OCCUPANCY TAXES. SO WE PROVIDING A LOT OF INCOME FOR 3D. SO, AND THEN PUTTING THIS PERMIT REQUIREMENT EVERY YEAR REQUIRES A LOT OF PAPERWORK. SO I REALLY FEEL LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE ALREADY PROVIDING A LOT OF PROPERTY TAX AND 17% TOTAL OCCUPANCY TAXES, IF THIS PERMIT REQUIREMENT CAN BE SINGLED OUT PER OWNER INSTEAD OF PER PROPERTY, OR CAN BE PUSHED OUT TWO OR THREE YEARS INSTEAD OF, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR. BECAUSE ONCE YOU HAVE A PERMIT ON THE PROPERTY, YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, YOU DON'T NEED IT EVERY YEAR. THANK YOU. UNDERSTOOD. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. SO YOUR GUESTS PAY THE HOP, RIGHT? NOT THE, NOT YOU. YES, THEY PAID, BUT IT'S CHARGE, IT GOES TO THE CITY. SO IF MY SDR IS NOT THERE, THEN IT WON'T BE THERE TO, FOR THE CITY TO INCOME. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ANNU. WELCOME. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. ESTEEM COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, FIRST I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHAT I PROVIDE TO THE CITY. I'M A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATOR IN THE CITY. UH, OPERATES SEVERAL SHORT-TERM, UM, SMALL APARTMENT COMPLEXES. SO WE PROVIDE SAFE, CLEAN, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS AND VISITORS WHO COME. WE PROVIDE JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY, WE PROVIDE TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY. WE KEEP PROPERTIES WELL MAINTAINED AND NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORHOODS LOOKING GOOD PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP, WHERE WE'RE USUALLY SMALL LOCAL OWNERS, WE HAVE PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP IN OUR PROPERTIES AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY LOOK AT IT AND THEY'RE PERFORMING WELL, UH, AS OPPOSED TO BIGGER OPERATORS LIKE PRIVATE EQUITY. UM, MY MAIN CONCERN WAS AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. SORRY, ONE MORE THING. I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE RISK, UH, THE RISK MITIGATION FACTORS THAT WE IMPLEMENT IN ORDER TO HAVE, UH, THE BEST PERFORMING PROPERTY. SO WE DO GUEST SCREENING VERIFICATION, ALSO VERIFICATION OF THE CAR THAT'S BEING DRIVEN TO OUR UNIT. UM, WE HAVE THOROUGH HOUSE RULES THAT HAVE, THAT IS LIKE FUNCTION AS OUR TERMS OF SERVICE. WE HAVE, UH, RING CAMERA, UH, MONITORING. WE HAVE A NOISE MONITORING, WE HAVE PRIVATE SECURITY PATROL THAT, THAT, UH, UH, PATROLS ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS. UH, WE ALSO DO OUTREACH WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE OUR NUMBER, UH, 24 7 SO THEY CAN REACH US AT ANY TIME IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS. SO THOSE ARE THE RISKS, MITIGATION FACTORS THAT WE HAVE FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, THE BAD ACTORS ENTERING THE PROPERTY. UM, MY, MY WHOLE PROBLEM IS WITH, UH, AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE THAT IS, THERE WAS AN ARBITRARY NUMBER, 25% OF UNITS PREVIOUS IS THREE TO EIGHT. NOW IT'S JUST THREE AND UP. UM, AGAIN, SOMEBODY ELSE BROUGHT UP A TRIPLEX, THE NUMBERS DON'T WORK, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU BE 25%? YOU CAN'T RUN A TRIPLEX THEN 'CAUSE IT'S 33%. UM, ALSO THE SMALLER APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR APARTMENT COMPLEX IN GENERAL, THEY SLEEP LESS PEOPLE. IT'S NOT LIKE A HOUSE. SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE LIKE PARTIES HAPPENING OVER THERE WHERE SOMEBODY WHO'S GONNA BE RENTING A WHOLE HOUSE, WE'LL BE HAVING A PARTY. YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HAVING THAT. AND THE SMALLER ONES, UH, WE ARE LOCAL BUSINESSES. WE'RE SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES. UM, WE HAVE, AND, AND THE LASTLY, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS BIG OVERREACH BY THE CITY, UH, IN TERMS OF PROPERTY RIGHTS AND USE. AND I DON'T THINK IT'LL HOLD UP IN TEXAS SUPREME COURT AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, BUT I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE, HAVE, UH, TALKED ABOUT THAT IT MAY NOT STICK AROUND. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, SIR. HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE. COUNCIL MEMBER , THANK, THANK YOU SIR. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU DO TO MAKE SURE YOUR PROPERTIES, UH, WELL KEPT. I MEAN, THIS IS WHY WE PUT THINGS OUT TO THE PUBLIC. 'CAUSE WE NEED TO HEAR STUFF LIKE THIS. I MEAN, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE 33%, I MEAN, I TOTALLY GET THAT ARGUMENT. I, I THINK, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I THINK WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CAMAN HAD PUT OUT OF THE, THE ONES THAT GET NUMEROUS THAT HAVE THE INFRACTIONS THAT CAUSE THEM TO LIKE, KIND OF SATISFIES WHAT I WANTED. SO I ANTICIPATE POTENTIALLY WITHDRAWING THAT AMENDMENT THREE IN, IN LIGHT OF THESE COMMENTS. 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA LIMIT GOOD RESPONSIBLE OWNERS AND THEIR ABILITY TO, TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE BUSINESS. SO I HEAR YOU. THIS IS, THIS IS WHY PUBLIC COMMENT'S IMPORTANT. WE NEED TO HEAR ALL ASPECTS. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ALCORN. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU GUYS. SO THAT IS, WELL DOUG SMITH, BUT I THINK DOUG [02:35:01] HAS LEFT. YEAH, SO, UH, ANYONE WHO'S HERE WHO HASN'T, UH, SIGNED UP, I'LL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK. SO ONE AT A TIME, PLEASE. YES, SIR. STATE YOUR NAME. HELLO, UH, COUNSEL. MY NAME IS JACOB CHACO NOW, UM, I HAVE A NINE UNIT AND, UH, WE AS WELL AS, UH, I WORK WITH ANNO. UM, THEY DO MONITOR. I, I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS. THEY DO MONITOR EVERYTHING ON THE NINE UNITS. BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST TROUBLE I KNOW, UM, ON AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, IT STATES THAT 25% SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, LONG, LONG-TERM. I TRIED THAT BEFORE. IT DOES NOT WORK OUT. UM, FINANCIALLY AS WELL AS WE HAVE MORE COMPLAINTS, LIKE, UM, SOMEBODY ELSE IS UP HERE, WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE AIRBNBS IN THEIR BUILDING. WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES WHEN IT'S MIXED WITH LONG-TERM AND SHORT-TERM RENTAL. SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR, MY BIGGEST ISSUES IS AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. AND I REQUEST, UH, COUNCIL TO AVOID IT. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PLEASE TELL US YOUR NAME. HELLO, MY NAME IS MARIA PENA AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I AM HERE BECAUSE I HAVE, UM, I'VE BEEN DOING AIRBNB SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND VRBO FOR SIX YEARS. I HAVE BEEN BOTH IN THE OWNING OUR, UH, RENTAL ARBITRAGE AND ALSO MANAGING. WITH ALL THAT SAID, UM, I KNOW THAT IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES, TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE GOOD RULES SET IN PLACE SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS. MY BIGGEST THING HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO BE IN COMMUNICATION WITH MY GUESTS. UH, MY, MY GUESTS CONSTANTLY, AND ALSO MY NEIGHBORS. I GO AND MEET WITH MY NEIGHBORS, MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THEIR PHONE, MY PHONE NUMBER, SO THAT WE CAN SPEAK ANYTIME THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM. SO NOW WE, WE HAVE THIS IN PLACE, WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS AND WHEN WE DO, THEY CALL ME, WE ACT ON IT. SO WE ARE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT FOLLOWING THE RULES. OF COURSE, ALSO HAVING PLATFORM RULES ARE IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, AIRBNB WILL SHUT YOU DOWN IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES. SO IT'S NO DIFFERENT ALLOWING US TO HAVE A PERMIT IN WHICH WE CAN CONTINUE WORKING AND ALSO SETTING OUR ROLES. UM, WE, UH, WE, UH, PROVIDE JOBS FOR, FOR 12 PEOPLE WITHIN OUR, OUR RENTALS. THESE ARE CLEANERS, THESE ARE HANDYMEN, THESE ARE PLENTY. THERE ARE PLENTY MANY OTHER CONTRACT LOCAL VENDORS THAT RELY ON OUR SERVICES FOR US TO HAVE THE RENTALS AND THEY PROVIDE SERVICES. THESE 12 PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE AS EMPLOYEES RELY SOLELY ON THIS INCOME. SO AGAIN, WE PROVIDE A SERVICE NOT ONLY TO OUR GUESTS, BUT ALSO TO THE ECONOMY IN WHICH WE PROVIDE. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, UM, REFER OUR GUESTS INCOMING, THE LOCAL RESTAURANTS, THE LOCAL PLACES WITHIN THE AREA THAT AGAIN, ADDS TO THE ECONOMY. MAY I CONTINUE REAL BRIEFLY? UH, IF YOU COULD JUST WRAP IT UP. OKAY. SO, UM, IN HOSTING BUSINESS SUPPORTS MULTIPLE LOCAL LIVELIHOODS, EMPHASIZING THE BROADER ECONOMY IMPORTANCE BEYOND JUST THE HOST THEMSELVES. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH PERMITS TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR RESPONSIBLE HOSTS. I HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY PERMITS IN OTHER CITIES, SO I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NEEDED. MY CONCERN TO THAT SECTION THREE IN WHICH WE WILL BE LIMITED TO THE LIST, THE FULL PROPERTY WITH SEVERAL UNITS LIMITED ONLY TO 25 WILL IMPACT US SIGNIFICANTLY. SIGNIFICANTLY. WE ARE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES, WE'RE PAYING OCCUPANCY TAX FOR THE WHOLE PROPERTY. EVEN WHEN THE OCCUPANCY TAXES PAID BY THE GUEST WE ARE, IS STILL EATING INTO OUR PROFIT. OBVIOUSLY ANOTHER CONCERN AS WE ADD MORE UNITS, IT WILL BE VERY COSTLY AND IT'S COSTLY FOR THOSE WITH MANY UNITS ALREADY TO PAY THE APPLICATION ON A YEARLY PERMIT. SO MY, MY, AS SOMEONE ELSE HAD MENTIONED IS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE THAT WE HAVE MANY UNITS TO HAVE A PERMIT TO APPLY FOR EVERY SINGLE UNIT, IT WOULD BE VERY COSTLY. MM-HMM . SO MAYBE PROPOSING, AS SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED, MAYBE A TWO, THREE YEAR PERMIT SO WE BE ABLE TO COMPENSATE FOR THE VOLUME OF UNITS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE. [02:40:01] OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. SO, UH, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK? OKAY, PETER, COME ON UP. PETER. WELCOME. JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD. YES, MY NAME'S PETER ACCURO. I'M A RESIDENT OF SHARPSTOWN. UM, I'M ACTUALLY CALL, I'M SPEAKING ON THE STR ON BEHALF OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT PERSPECTIVE. UM, I DEAL WITH A, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, THAT IS A BAD ACTOR AND NOT A GOOD ACTOR. THERE ARE SOME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE GOOD, SOME ARE BAD. UM, I DEAL WITH HIS TRASH ISSUES WHERE THEY, MY TRASH CAN IS SO FULL BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT, IT'S A FOUR BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM, FOUR BEDROOM, TWO BATH COMPLEX, AND A THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH. AND THERE'S MORE THAN 10 PEOPLE UNRELATED LIVING IN THAT PLACE. THIS, I BELIEVE IS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE THE SUBLEASES THAT'S BEING, I THINK, ADDRESSED MY RECOMMENDATION IS, IS THE CATEGORY FOR THE HCA NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE IF, UM, IT'S CLASSIFIED AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT, THEN THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM THINGS LIKE, UH, OPERATING LIKE A BUSINESS THAT, UH, THE DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE NOT POWERFUL ENOUGH TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. SO THEREFORE, UNDERNEATH THE CLASSIFICATION, THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM THINGS LIKE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT FEES AND OTHER THING, UH, ASSESSMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF MECHANISM THAT PUTS INTO HARRIS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT THAT IT GOES FROM AN A ONE STATUS TO SOME OTHER, MAYBE CREATE A NEW STATUS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT. NOW IF THAT RESIDENT, IF THAT, UH, PROPERTY OWNER NO LONGER HAS IT AND THERE'S BEEN ISSUES, THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE A WAY THAT THEY CAN APPEAL OR GO BACK TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT STATUS. SO THESE MECHANISMS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND PUT IN PLACE AS WELL. UM, SO, UH, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TELL YOU ABOUT ALL OF MY HORROR STORIES WITH MY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT IN OUR SMALL COMMUNITY. SOUTHWEST HOUSTON IS THE MOST DENSELY POPULATED AND MOST DIVERSE GROUP, UH, IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON, COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON. AND THIS DOES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THIS AREA FROM A SINGLE FAMILY PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IT IS TEARING THE FABRIC OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I CAN'T LET KIDS GO OUT IN THE FRONT YARD ANY LONGER BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THAT HOUSE. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PETER. THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, A RA IS STILL HERE AND, UM, WE SPOKE LAST WEEK. YES. AND I, AND I BROUGHT YOUR POINT TO THEIR ATTENTION AND I HAD SENT A LETTER TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT 'EM THROUGH YOUR STAFF OR NOT YET, SO THANK YOU. YOU BET. THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. IT'S BEEN A GREAT DISCUSSION, I THINK, AND WE WILL TAKE EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION. UM, AS, AS I SAID, THIS IS LIKELY TO GET TAGGED THIS WEEK. SO WE, UH, HOPEFULLY WILL VOTE ON IT, UH, NEXT WEEK AND THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS AND SOME OF THE ONES THAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT MAY BE WITHDRAWN. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THE NEXT QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY, MAY THE FIFTH AT 2:00 PM SO THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.