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FROM CITY HALL ANNEX, IT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING RIGHT HERE ON HTV YEARS
[CALL TO ORDER]
OF SERVING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.JENNIFER, JENNIFER OSLAND, HAS ANNOUNCED HER RETIREMENT FROM THE CITY OF HOUSTON, EFFECTIVE JULY 26TH.
WE'RE GOING TO MISS HER IMMENSELY AND MISS HER CALM COMPETENCE IN ALL SITUATIONS.
WE WISH HER THE BEST AND SHE WILL BE HERE PROBABLY NEXT MEETING, BUT WE DIDN'T WANNA SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, TOMORROW SHE'S GONNA BE GONE.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO ANNOUNCE IT.
UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS ANNOUNCED PLANS TO APPOINT MS. VON TRAN AS THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND HER CONFIRMATION HEARING WILL BE AT CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 17TH.
SPEAKERS, IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON AN ITEM, PLEASE FILL OUT THE SPEAKER'S FORM BEFORE THE ITEM IS CALLED AND TURN IT INTO THE STAFF NEAR THE FRONT DOOR.
TO ESTABLISH QUORUM OF 11 MEMBERS, I'LL CALL THE ROLE MEMBERS.
PLEASE TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONES WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME AND PLEASE RESPOND BY SAYING YOUR LAST NAME AND PRESENT.
PRESENT, UH, VICE CHAIR GARZA GARZA.
COMMISSIONER ALLMAN IS ABSENT.
COMMISSIONER VAR WILL BE LATE.
COMMISSIONER KLIK IS NOT HERE.
COMMISSIONER MAREZ MAD IS PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER POROUS PURTO IS NOT HERE.
COMMISSIONER ROSENBERG IS OUT.
COMMISSIONER SEGLER SEGLER PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER STEIN STEIN PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER VICTOR VICTOR PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER REVERA BLAND IS NOT HERE.
COMMISSIONER MANKA MANKA PRESENT.
AND COMMISSIONERS KANE AND DALTON ARE NOT HERE.
DO WE HAVE A, OH, AND I'M SORRY.
UM, SITTING IN FOR, UH, JENNIFER OS AS SECRETARY OF THE COMMISSION IS DIPTY MAUR PRESENT.
AND AND THEN PLEASE NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER HEINZ JUST CAME IN 13.
I'M GONNA NOW TURN IT OVER TO, LET'S SEE.
UM, I DO WANNA NOTE THOUGH, THAT THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE WITHDRAWN AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED TODAY.
AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, I SHOULD SAY THE NAMES FOR YOU.
I'M GONNA TRY, I'LL READ THEM.
SO ITEM ONE 19 FORT BEND COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 58, WATER PLANT NUMBER TWO, AND EXTENSION NUMBER 1 23 MARTA, SECTION 19, PARTIAL REPLANT NUMBER ONE AND ITEM 1 44 9 1 0 YALE STREET.
THEY'VE ALL BEEN WITHDRAWN AND WILL BE NOT BE DISCUSSED TODAY.
[Director’s Report]
WE'LL GO FOR TO THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.I'M DIPTI MATHUR, ACTING SECRETARY OF THIS COMMISSION AND DEPUTY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND FREEWAY PLAN, UM, UM, MEETING, PUBLIC HEARING IS ON JULY 25TH AT 1:00 PM THIS MTFP COMMISSION MEETING WILL PROCEED YOUR TWO 30 REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING.
THE AND THE QUORUM IS REQUIRED FOR BOTH THE MEETINGS THAT DAY.
COMMISSION MEMBERS, PLEASE LET THE CHAIR KNOW IF YOU CAN OR CANNOT ATTEND.
UM, AGAIN, IF, UH, FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S NUMBER, YOU CAN REACH US AT (832) 393-6600 AND YOU CAN CALL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PLANNER OF THE DAY AT 8 3 2 3 9 3 6 6 2 4.
[Consideration of the June 27, 2024 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes ]
UH, YOUR MINUTES FOR THE PREVIOUS MEETING OF JUNE 27TH.MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES? MOTION HA GARZA SECOND GARZA.
[Platting Activities a & b]
ACTIVITY AND STAFF CONSENT PLOTS AND RELAS.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SECTIONS A AND B ARE PRESENTED AS ONE GROUP, WHICH INCLUDES CONSENT AND REPRO ITEMS NOT REQUIRING NOTIFICATION.
SECTIONS A AND B ARE ITEMS ONE THROUGH ONE 17 SECTION A.
CONSENT ITEMS ARE NUMBER ONE THROUGH 57 AND SECTION B RE REPLIED.
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THROUGH ONE 17.STAFF WOULD LIKE TO TAKE OUT OF ORDER.
A PRESENTATION WILL FOLLOW AFTER THIS.
THERE'S NO OTHER ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN OUT OF ORDER AND THERE ARE NO CHANCES.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION MADAM CHAIR, IF THERE ARE NO INDIVIDUAL SIGNED TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS, THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REQUESTS THEIR APPROVAL.
ALL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSENT AND RE REPLY TO ITEMS NOT REQUIRING NOTIFICATION.
SAVE AND ACCEPT ITEM NUMBER 13.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT YOU NEED TO ABSTAIN? YES, MADAM CHAIR.
I'M GONNA ABSTAIN FROM ITEM 65.
SO LET'S HAVE A MOTION FOR ALL ITEMS. SAVE AND ACCEPT 13 AND 65.
DO YOU WANNA DO THE, THE PRESENTATION FIRST? DO YOU WANNA APPROVE 65? DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF 65 MS. BANDY? YES.
OKAY, SO NOW I NEED A MOTION FOR ITEM 65, BALDWIN MOTION BALDWIN.
NOW WE'LL LISTEN TO, UM, ITEM 13 DAVIS SQUARE.
MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF PLANNING.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT ITEM 13, WHICH IS DAVIS SQUARE.
IT'S A CLASS TWO PLAT LOCATED IN DISTRICT B AND IT'S IN THE GREATER FIFTH WARD AREA.
IT'S, UH, PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG JONES ROAD AND IT ALSO ABUTS DAVID DAVIS STREET.
THIS PROJECT WAS DEFERRED TWICE BECAUSE THERE IS NEED FOR ADDITIONAL DEDICATION AND ALSO THERE IS, UM, A RESERVE PROPERTY IN BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE PROPERTY.
SO WE ARE INVESTIGATING IF THERE IS, UM, ACTUALLY ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY VIA JONES STREET.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FOUR LOTS WITH THE SHARED DRI WITH TWO SHARED DRIVEWAYS.
DUE TO THE, UM, 30 DAY, UH, THE TWO DEFERRALS HAVE ELAPSED, SO WE CANNOT DIFFER ANYMORE.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE THE PLAT.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE AN EMAIL REQUEST REQUESTING THE 30 DAY EXTENSION AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR 30 DAY EXTENSION? MOTION GARZA.
[c. Replats requiring Public Hearings with Notification (Dorianne Powe-Phlegm, Devin Crittle, and John Cedillo)]
WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO C PUBLIC HEARINGS.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM ONE 18 IS ESTATES AT KERRY STREET.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS A 26,231 SQUARE FOOT OF PROPERTY LOCATED IN HOUSTON, CORPORATE HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS NORTHEAST OF BENNINGTON STREET, WEST OF HOMESTEAD ROAD ALONG CARRIE STREET.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REPLY IS TO CREATE FIVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WILL VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS FILED SEPARATELY.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A SECOND DEFERRAL TO CONFER WITH LEGAL CONCERNING THE SEPARATELY FILE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS DEFER THE PLAT PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
I HAVE NO SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON NUMBER ONE 18? THIS STATES AT KERRY STREET HEARING NONE.
COMMISSIONER'S STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THIS ITEM AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION JONES.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER? UH, WELL I'LL SECOND IT, BUT ALSO JUST A COMMENT THAT THEY NEED A LOOK AT THAT FFA BUILDING LINE COMMENT BY CENTER POINT SINCE IT'S ALREADY CONSTRAINED AND I KNOW IT COMES UP OFTEN ENOUGH.
SO I WILL THANK THE MOTION AND COMMISSIONER MAREZ SECONDS THE MOTION.
ITEM ONE 19 WITHDRAWN AND ONE 20.
ITEM ONE 20 IS HARRIS COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER SIX, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE EAST ALONG HOLLISTER DRIVE NORTH OF BRI DRIVE SOUTH OF ROARING SPRINGS IN HOUSTON, EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION IN HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS.
THE REASON FOR REPLAY IS TO CREATE ONE RESERVE RESTRICTED TO WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS
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PLAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CBC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.MADAM CHAIR PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.
AT THIS TIME, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE 20 IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO SPEAKERS SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE BUT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ASK COMMISSIONERS FOR A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
ITEM 1 21 IS KINS SHIRE ESTATES.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS A 5,400 SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE HOUSTON CITY LIMITS EAST OF MESA DRIVE AND NORTH OF TIDWELL ROAD.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REPLY IS TO CREATE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CBC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.
AT THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 21 IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE? I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEEK A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
LABOR STATES PARTIAL PLAT NUMBER ONE.
UH, THIS PLAT WAS DEFERRED FOR, UH, 30 DAYS, SO THERE'S NO NEED TO FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, I WOULD ASK LEGAL'S OPINION ON THIS COM COMMISSION.
NO, AT THE, AT THE LAST MEETING IT WAS A 30 DAY REQUEST, THE WRITTEN REQUEST UNDER STATE LAW FOR A 30 DAY DEFERRAL.
I UNDERSTAND FROM PLAT TRACKER.
IT AUTOMATICALLY COMES UP AND REPOPULATES ON THE AGENDA, BUT I THINK THERE'S NO NEED TO TAKE IT BECAUSE NOTICE IS PRESERVED AS OF LAST MEETING.
SO THIS WILL COME UP AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS.
UM, NORTHWOOD CROSSING THE SITE IS LOCATED NORTH ALONG MICT STREET, EAST OF HOMESTEAD ROAD IN HOUSTON.
THE REASON FOR REPLANT IS TO CREATE THREE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO SEEKING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW LOTS THAT ORIGINALLY WERE A REPLANT OF A WATER WELL SITE TO BE REPLANT INTO LOTS SMALLER THAN THE TYPICAL LOT IN THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION ISSUES AND THAT IT MAY NOT MEET DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THE STAFF HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH PUBLIC WORK STAFF AND PUBLIC WORK STAFF HAS, UM, VISIT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SPOKE WITH THEM CONCERNING THEIR ISSUES.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS DEFERRED PLAT PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TIME TO MEET WITH THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, PROVIDE NEW, PROVIDE REVISED INFORMATION BY NOON NEXT WEDNESDAY.
MADAM CHAIR, PLEASE THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 24 IS CONTINUED.
I HAVE A COUPLE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE A FIRST NAME IS S THOMPSON HERE.
FRED WOODS, NORTHWOOD MANOR CIVIC CLUB PRESIDENT, UH, COMMISSIONER STEIN ASKED FOR THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY.
TWO WEEKS HAS NOT BEEN ENOUGH TIME.
UH, I DO REQUEST THAT YOU DENY, BUT IF YOU HAVE TO DEFER, THEN GIVE ENOUGH TIME 60 OR 90 DAYS FOR THERE TO BE A, A MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
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THE LAST TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH BEING THAT WE HAD A HOLIDAY AND NOW A HURRICANE, I WOULD ASK FOR CONSIDERATION FOR ADDITIONAL TIME.IN ADDITION, THE STATE REP ASKED FOR A HYDROLOGY STUDY AND, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, UH, MR. SMITH COULD SPEAK TO THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT'S NEEDED FOR THAT.
WE DID FLOOD DURING THIS HURRICANE AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS.
UH, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE ALL THE CONSIDERATIONS NECESSARY, UH, AND REALLY WANT YOU TO, TO DENY THIS REQUEST.
UM, SO I CAN ANSWER A COUPLE THINGS.
FIRST, PUBLIC WORKS WOULD HANDLE THE HYDROLOGY STUDY THAT WOULD NOT BE HANDLED AT THIS IN THIS BODY.
UM, WILL, IT'S RECOMMENDED TO DEFER, WHICH I'M ASSUMING WILL DEFER IT FOR TWO WEEKS.
BUT IF THERE'S LONGER TIME NEEDED, THEY COULD ALWAYS, THE APPLICANT COULD ALWAYS COME BACK AND ASK FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION.
JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.
SO THERE'S NO WAY TO EXTEND PAST THE TWO WEEKS AGAIN? UH, NO.
THE EXTENSION, IT WAS DIFFICULT GETTING HERE, BEING THAT I KNOW WE HAD A HURRICANE ON ON MONDAY.
SO I I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THAT ENGAGEMENT.
WITH THE BODY, UH, IN TWO WEEKS.
AND SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT ENGAGEMENT AND THEY WANT TO EXTEND, THEN THEY'D COME BEFORE US IN TWO WEEKS AND THEY WOULD ASK FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION.
ONLY THE APPLICANT, BUT NOT THE ONLY THE APPLICANT.
WE CAN'T GIVE IT WITHOUT THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY REQUESTING IT IN WRITING.
SO OUR HANDS ARE TIED THERE, BUT STAFF WILL OBVIOUSLY REPORT YOUR INFORMATION TO THE APPLICANT AND HOPEFULLY IN TWO WEEKS THEY WILL SEE THEIR WAY THROUGH TO ASKING FOR A FURTHER EXTENSION.
IN ADDITION, NO ONE HAS FOLLOWED UP, UH, TO SAY IF THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WELL, THE PERSON THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP YOU WOULD BE MS. PFL.
SO WHEN SHE'S DONE SHE'LL, SHE'LL GET WITH YOU.
ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARTHA HARRISON.
MS. JOHNSON, MS. JOHNSON DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE WITH US.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY, I WILL NOW ASK FOR, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO DEFER AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MADAM CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THE DEFERRAL, UH, BECAUSE HE WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO 30, I'M SORRY, 30 DAYS? NO, JUST A DEFERRAL, RIGHT? NO, JUST A REGULAR DEFERRAL.
SO THERE IS A WILLINGNESS BY THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY? YES, IT IS.
AND IF YOU WOULD JUST GET WITH MR. WOODS AFTER, AFTER YOUR OKAY, I WILL.
BUT YES, BUT TO BE CLEAR, THE CURRENT THOUGHT OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS DENIAL BECAUSE OF THE LOT SIZE ANYWAY, RIGHT? YES.
AND THAT'S KIND OF BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THE APPLICANT AND MAYBE EVEN THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
NORTH OF LONG, UH, MICT STREET, EAST OF HOMESTEAD ROAD AND HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS, THE REASON FOR RELA IS TO CREATE TWO LOTS.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO SEEKING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW LOTS THAT ORIGINALLY WERE REPLAYABLE WATER WELL SITES TO BE RELA INTO LOTS SMALLER THAN THE TYPICAL LOT SIZE IN THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION.
THE PLAT IS A RE PLAT OF LOT ONE OF THE NORWOOD MANOR SECTION TWO PARTIAL RE PLAT NUMBER ONE SUBDIVISION RECORDED IN 2009, THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLA WOULD NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF HAS RECEIVED ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS PLAT THAT IT MAY CAUSE FLOODING AND DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THE AREA.
STAFF HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC WORK STAFF AND THE PUBLIC WORK STAFF HAS MET WITH THE COMMUNITY CONCERNING THE ISSUE.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS DEFER THE PLAT PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO ALLOW THE, TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TIME TO MEET WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND HORMONES ASSOCIATION AND PROVIDE REVISED INFORMATION BY NOON NEXT WEDNESDAY.
MADAM CHAIR, PLEASE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CONTINUED FOR ITEM 1 25.
I HAVE ONE SPEAKER, MR. WOODS AND MR. WOODS AGAIN.
FRED WOODS NORTHWOOD MANAGED CIVIC CLUB PRESIDENT, UH, FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT I LISTED BEFORE.
UH, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE TIME TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT IF THEY'RE WILLING.
AND I HEAR THAT THEY ARE AS WELL AS, UM, UH, THE HYDROLOGY STUDY BECAUSE WE DO FLOOD, WE'RE PRONE TO FLOODING.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE.
I WILL CL UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC OR CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEFERRAL.
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STEIN.[d. Subdivision Plats with Variance Requests (Aracely Rodriguez, Geoff Butler, and Tammi Williamson) ]
TO, UH, D VARIANCES.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE CITY LIMIT AT THE SOUTHWEST INTERSECTION OF HAM DRIVE AND COOLING BOULEVARD.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH PUBLISHED REACH SYSTEM WITH 37 LOT PROVIDING ASSET TO COOL BOULEVARD, WHICH AND MAY THOROUGHFARE.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A VARIANCE TO ALLOW TWO INTERCESSION SPACING TO BE LESS THAN 400 FEET AND 600 FEET ALONG LIN BOULEVARD STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE PROPERTY BOUNDED BY EXISTING RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WITHOUT STRICT CONNECTION TO THE SOUTH AND WEST AND A HIGHER POWER TRANSMISSION LINE RUN ALONG OM DRIVE RESTRICTING POSSIBLE ASSETS.
SO THE PROPERTY CAN ONLY TAKE ASSETS FROM COOLING BOULEVARD, WHICH WILL CREATE INTERSECTION NOT MEETING THE STANDARD INTERSECTION FACING REQUIREMENT.
PUBLIC WILL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROPOSAL AND EXPRESS NO OBJECTION TO THE VAN REQUESTS.
SO THE APPLICANT, UM, ALSO COORDINATED WITH THE URBAN FORESTRY AND SLIGHTLY MODIFIED THE STREET LAYOUT TO, TO PRESERVE A PROTECTED TREE ALONG COOL BOULEVARD.
SO IN LIGHT OF THE CONSIDERATIONS, THAT RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLA I MEAN GRANT REQUEST THE VARIANT FOR THE PLA SUBSTITUTE THE CP CCPC 1 0 1 INFORMED CONDITION AND THAT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN EVENT.
YEAH, I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE? SORRY, DIDN'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON.
I I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE I'M LOOKING DOWN AT EVERYONE, SO I'M SORRY WHEN I TAKE 'EM ON AND OFF.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEM 1 26.
ITEM 1 27, ITEM 1 27 EDGEWOOD VILLAGE EAST SECTION ONE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN HOUSTON, ETJ IN HARRIS COUNTY, MORE ALONG US 90 AND EAST OF SAM HOUSTON TOLLWAY NORTH.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND IS REQUESTING A VARIANT TO CONNECT TWO PUBLISHED STREET SEPARATED BY A 60 FOOT FEE STREET OWNED BY THE PIPE, OWNED BY A PIPELINE COMPANY WITH A 60 FOOT WIDE ASSET EASEMENT THAT IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE PROP, THE PROPERTY IS BY, BY THE 60 FOOT WIDE PIPELINE.
AND IT'S ALSO BOUNDED BY A CITY OF HOUSTON OWNED CANAL TO THE WEST AND HARRIS COUNTY MOB PROPERTY WITH A WATER TREATMENT PLAN TO THE NORTH TO THE SITE LOCATED NORTH OF THE PIPELINE.
LACK ALTERNATIVE ASSET POINT, MAKING AN ASSET EASEMENT THE ONLY VIABLE SOLUTION FOR SITE CONNECTIVITY TO THE APPLICANT.
COORDINATING WITH THE PIPELINE COMPANY TO CREATE A 60 FOOT WIDE ASSET EASEMENT AND WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AN APPROVAL LETTER PRIOR TO RECOMMENDATION.
SO GRANTING THE VAN WILL CONNECT TO PUBLIC STREET, PROVIDING INTERNAL CONNECTIVITY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WOULD MEET THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE NOW GRANTING THE ASSET EASEMENT.
UM, THEN IN THAT CASE, THE NORTHERN TECH, THE NORTHERN TRACK CANNOT BE DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW.
HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT REVIEWED THIS PROPOSAL AND IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THAT RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE REQUESTED VARIANCE SUB AND I PUT THE PLEDGE SUBJECT TO THE CPC 1 0 1 INFORMED CONDITION.
I HAVE NO SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK SEEING NONCOMS? I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
ITEM 1 28, ITEM 1 28 FOR THE BANK PARK.
THIS WILL DEFER FOR 30 DAYS FROM THE AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
MADAM CHAIR? YES, I, I WAS GONNA ASK THE DEPARTMENT, SINCE WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT MORE OF THESE 30 DAY REFERRAL OR DEFERRALS, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA JUST THINKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC? IT MIGHT BE CONFUSING TO THEM THAT SAYS DEFERRED UNTIL, AND THEN PUT THE DATE AND NO ACTION TAKEN.
JUST SO PEOPLE AREN'T CONFUSED, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
DO YOU PREFER LIKE ON THE LINER OR ON THE CPC? NO, I PREFER IT ON THE AGENDA.
YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE POSTED FOR THE PUBLIC.
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OKAY, SO WE MOVED ON TO 1 29.ITEM 1 29 HAWKLEY MEADOWS DRIVE STREET, DEDICATION AND RESERVE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN HOUSTON, ETJ IN HARRIS COUNTY, SOUTH OF BECKFORD ROAD AND EAST OF WARREN RANCH ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANT TO ALLOW A CENTRAL LINE RADIUS OF 1,200 FEET ALONG THE MEDIA.
WARREN RANCH ROAD THAT IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
WARREN RANCH ROAD IS AN EXISTING RIGHT OF DESIGNATED AT THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PER THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND FREEWAY PLAN.
THE APPLICANT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION TO WIDEN WARREN RANCH ROAD TO A HUNDRED FEET.
THIS RIGHT AWAY CURRENTLY INCLUDES A CURB RADI OF 325 FEET.
PER CHAPTER 42, A OMEGA THOROUGHFARE IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A CENTRAL LINE RADI OF 2000 FEET.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANT TO ALLOW GENTLE LINE RADIUS OF A HUNDRED FEET.
SO GRANTING THIS VARIANT WOULD MAINTAIN THE ASSISTING ROAD CONFIGURATION AND WOULD NOT BE, UH, NEGATIVE IMPACT PUMP TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR WELFARE.
THIS PROPOSED CENTRAL LINE RADIO WILL ALSO BE INCOMPLIANT WITH THE AASHTO STANDARDS.
THE APPLICANT HAS COORDINATED WITH THE HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND HARRIS COUNTY HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSED SUITE, UM, CENTRAL LINE RADIOS.
SO THAT RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE REQUESTED VARIANCE AND APPROVE THE PLA SEPARATE TO THE CCPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITION.
I HAVE NO SPEAKERS SIGNED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 29.
IS THERE ANY, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE.
I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM ONE 30 IS JONES CREEK RESERVE AT MCCREARY MEADOWS, SECTION TWO.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN HOUSTON'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION IN FORT BEND COUNTY BETWEEN MCCREARY ROAD AND MASON ROAD NORTH OF FM 3 59.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SUBDIVISION OF 80 LOTS IN A LARGE DETENTION RESERVE ON A PUBLIC STREET SYSTEM AND IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE NOT TO EXTEND NOR TERMINATE WITH THE CUL-DE-SAC.
A STUBB STREET, ESTES CREEK DRIVE.
STAFF REQUEST TO DEFER THE APPLICATION FOR TWO WEEKS TO ALLOW TIME TO COORDINATE WITH RELEVANT AGENCIES.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 30.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE.
I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO DEFER A GARZA GARZA
HE'S GOOD, ISN'T HE? OH, OKAY.
ITEM 1 31 IS RANCHO DE LOS LOMAS.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN HOUSTON'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION IN WEST HARRIS COUNTY, NORTH OF LONGEN BA ROAD, WEST OF PITTS ROAD, EAST OF BARTLEY ROAD AND SOUTH OF CYPRESS CREEK.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TWO LOTS AND IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THE LOTS NOT TO HAVE FRONTAGE AS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE, BUT INSTEAD TO TAKE SOLE ACCESS FROM ACCESS EASEMENTS.
STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES LOTS TO HAVE FRONTAGE ON A STREET.
THE THREE PROPERTIES SOUTH OF THIS SITE TAKE ACCESS VIA RECORDED 17 FOOT WIDE ACCESS EASEMENT.
THIS PROPERTY HAS EXTENDED A 20 FOOT WIDE ACCESS EASEMENT NORTH IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO PROPOSED LOT ONE.
THE TWO RECORDED ACCESS EASEMENTS MEET THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE BY PROVIDING ACCESS FOR THESE SMALL NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT RESEMBLES WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY WHAT WOULD BE PROVIDED BY A PUBLIC STREET.
ADDITIONALLY, THIS PROPERTY WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO DEDICATE A PUBLIC STREET WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARY, BUT WOULD NOT CONNECT TO ANY OTHER PUBLIC STREET SINCE IT'S NOT THEIR OWNERSHIP.
CREATING ONE ADDITIONAL LOT DOES NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THE DENSITY OF THIS AREA.
HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEERING HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST.
PEER FORCE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE REQUESTED VARIANCE AND APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN ADVANCE.
AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE.
COMMISSIONERS, I'M SEEKING A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
MORRIS, QUESTION, QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER MORRIS.
I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GONNA KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA ASK
YEAH, SO THE ACTUAL, THE, AS THE UTILITY EASEMENT EASEMENT DOCUMENTS IT, IT'S PART OF THE
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EASEMENT, THE RECORDED EASEMENT.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM 1 32 IS SOUTH LAWN VISTA.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN HOUSTON'S CORPORATE LIMIT EAST OF STATE HIGHWAY 2 88, WEST OF SCOTT AND NORTH OF SIX 10.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A COMMUNITY OF 14 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG A SINGLE SHARED DRIVEWAY.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO PROVIDE FIVE FEET OF RIGHT, OF AWAY DEDICATION TO AMOS AND DREYFUS STREETS, AS OPPOSED TO THE REQUIRED 10 STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE EASTERN END OF A BLOCK BOUND BY AMOS, RAYMOND DREYFUS AND TIERWESTER STREETS.
BOTH AMOS AND DREYFUS FEATURE COMMERCIAL TRACKS ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE BLOCK.
STRICT INTERPRETATION OF CHAPTER 42 REQUIRES PUBLIC STREETS TO BE AT LEAST 60 FEET WIDE UNLESS THEY CONSIST OF ODD BLOCKS WITH ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TRACKS.
THE REMAINDER OF THE BLOCK CONSISTS OF NEW AND ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
AND THE TWO COMMERCIAL TRACKS HAVE ACCESS ALONG TIERWESTER A 60 FOOT PUBLIC STREET.
ALLOWING THE SUBJECT SITE TO WIDEN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO 50 FEET IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE DUE TO THE LARGELY SINGLE FAMILY SURROUNDINGS.
IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT HAS LIMITED CURB CUTS TO A SINGLE SHARED DRIVEWAY SPANNING THE BLOCK.
THIS WILL PRESERVE GREEN SPACE, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, AND STREET PARKING THAT WOULD ORDINARILY BE DISPLACED BY FRONT LOADING LOTS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS GRAIN THE VARIANCE IN APPROVING THE PLAT PER THE CCP C ONE ONE FORM CONDITIONS WE'VE RECEIVED, UH, WRITTEN OPPOSITION CITING UNSPECIFIED UTILITY CONFLICTS AND CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN THE AREA.
I HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS PRISCILLA LEBO JACKSON.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MS. JACKSON, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COUNCIL.
UH, MY NAME IS PRISCILLA LOBO JACKSON AND I AM CURRENTLY PRESIDENT OF SOUTH UNION PROUD CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
AND I OPPOSE THIS VARIANCE BECAUSE IT'S IMPOSING ON THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE BY BUILDING 17 UNITS, I THINK IT'S 17 UNITS IN THIS AREA, IT'S CAUSING IT TO, UH, CREATE A, A SENSE OF SUBSIDENCE.
WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF, UH, PROBLEMS NOW, UH, WITH, UH, NEW BUILDINGS COMING IN AND, UH, A FLOW OF, UH, WATER, SO TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME OF THIS IS ONE AREA THAT NEVER FLOODED, NEVER FLOODED, BUT WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF FLOODS COMING IN BECAUSE OF ALL THESE NEW BUILDINGS.
I WANNA MAKE MENTION OF THIS BECAUSE I, I RECEIVED THIS NOTATION AND IT STATED THAT THE SITE IS IN SUNNYSIDE.
WE ARE NOT SUNNYSIDE, WE ARE SOUTH UNION PROUD.
WE ARE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT COMMUNITY, AND WE ARE NOT WITH SUNNYSIDE.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING, UM, IT'S THE LAYOUT OF THE, UH, IT'S THE LAYOUT OF ALL OF THE, UH, BUILDINGS THAT THEY'RE GETTING READY TO CREATE THERE.
UH, IT'S GOING TO CREATE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM, AND THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THIS STREET.
YOU HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOMES ON THIS STREET, AND YOU'RE GONNA CREATE HAVOC AND, AND, UH, INCREASE OF, UH, QUOTE UNQUOTE CRIME IN THIS AREA.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
THE, UH, THE UH, PERSON WHO'S, UH, THE DEVELOPER WHO'S DOING THIS NEEDS TO LOOK AT THIS MORE CLOSELY BECAUSE THE WAY HE HAS HIS, UH, BUILDINGS ALIGNED, THE FLOOR OF TRAFFIC IS COMING RIGHT INTO THE FRONT DOOR OF, UH, ONE OF, OF THE RESIDENCE.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN, UH, UH, LOOK AT THAT MORE CLOSELY.
ANOTHER THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN THIS AREA, MS. JACKSON? PARDON ME, MS. JACKSON, YOUR TIME IS UP, SO PLEASE WRAP UP QUICKLY.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVE STRICKLAND.
SHE'S ASKING FOR THE DOCUMENT CAMERA.
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YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND START MR. STRICKLAND.THE VARIANCE FOR THIS, UH, PROJECT IS THEY'RE ASKING FOR 10 FOOT WIDE RIGHT OF WAY EXPANSION INSTEAD OF FIVE FOOT.
EVERYONE ELSE ALONG THE BLOCK LENGTH HAS DEVELOPED OTHER LOTS AND ONLY DEDICATED FIVE FEET.
10 FEET IS NOT GONNA MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY TO OUR EAST, THOSE PEOPLE DEDICATED FIVE FEET AND THAT HAS CURB AND GUTTER SIDEWALKS, UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE SYSTEM, AND IT'S NOT GONNA WIDEN ANY.
SO THE UH, ISSUE IS THERE'S ONE PERSON, THE BUILDER NEXT DOOR IS WANTING TO GO WIDER THAN FIVE FEET BECAUSE HE WANTS TO CONNECT HIS SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM ACROSS IT.
THERE IS NO SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM ALONG THERE.
AND THEN WHEN THE CHURCH SOLD THIS PROPERTY TO HIM, WHEN THEY SOLD IT TO US, UH, THEY HAD TO SAVE AND ACCEPT THREE AND A HALF FEET TO USE THAT FOR ACCESS TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY ON AMMO STREET SO THAT THEY COULD TIE INTO THOSE UTILITIES.
HE DOESN'T NEED TO CREATE ANY WIDER SPACE TO PUT HIS SANITARY SYSTEM IN BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO GO TO THE REAR, JUST LIKE IT WAS PLANNED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WITH THE CHURCH THAT SOLD THE PROPERTY TO HIM.
I WE'RE NOT IN VIOLATION OF ANYTHING IN CHAPTER 42.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
AND, UH, MAY YOU HAVE A GOOD AFTERNOON.
I HAVE NO ONE ELSE SIGNED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 32 OR THE ANY.
UM, PLEASE COME UP FRONT ONE AT A TIME.
AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD.
AND IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A FORM AND HAND IT TO STAFF BEFORE YOU LEAVE.
SO MY NAME IS DOROTHY THOMAS AND WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISAGREE ON THE DIVISION OF PROJECT NAME SOUTH LAWN VESSEL.
REFERMENT NUMBER 20 24, 11 70, AND VEN TO A LIVE FIVE FEET OF RIGHT OFF WAY DETECTED TO RAYMOND AMMOS AND DRAPER STREET.
AND I LIVE, MY FAITH BOY IS AMMOS STREET AND THE SIDE ARE DRAPER.
Y'ALL, EXCUSE ME, HE WANTED TO TAKE FIVE FEET OF MY YARD TO, IN TOWARDS THE STREET.
AND IF HE TAKE FIVE FOOT OR 10 FOOT OF MY YARD, UH, I WOULDN'T HAVE NO ON RAYMOND STREET, I COULDN'T BE HIT BY THE CAR.
I AM DISABLED AND, AND IF THE APPLICATION TAKE FIVE FEET OF MY LAND, MY DOOR WILL BE IN THE STREET.
IT WOULD NOT BE SAVED FOR ME OF ANY OF MY FAMILY, WHICH I HAVE A LARGE TRAVEL AND I'VE BEEN THERE PEOPLES DRIVE FAST ON THE STREET IN SPITE OF THE SPEED MOUNT.
AND THEY CAN EASILY HIT MY HOUSE.
THERE ARE NOT THIS EDITION OR NOT A COMMERCIAL STREET.
UM, MR. BUTLER, WOULD YOU MIND JUST EXPLAINING A FEW THINGS? I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE CONFUSION.
SO ORDINARILY, IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING ON A STREET THAT HAS USES OTHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY ON IT, YOU HAVE TO WIDEN A STREET TO 60 FEET.
AND WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IN THIS CASE IS TO WIDEN IT TO 50 FEET.
UH, BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL TRACKS ARE FAR, FAR AWAY FROM, FROM HERE.
SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO ABANDONMENT, THERE'S NO ACQUISITION OF CITY PROPERTY.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY, IT'S THE REVERSE.
THEY'RE JUST ASKING TO DEDICATE LESS OF IT.
AND THERE'S NO ROAD WIDENING WITH IT AND, AND ALL THAT.
IT'S JUST THE, THE SPACE THAT THE CITY GETS.
LESS SPACE IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND YOU'RE NOT TOUCHING ANYONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
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GIVING PART OF THEIR PROPERTY TO THE CITY OF HOUSTON.THEY'RE GIVING, ABANDONING FIVE FEET OF THEIR PROPERTY, NOT TOUCHING ANYONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
THEY'RE DEDICATING, DEDICATING SAME THING, BUT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT WHERE THEY COULD UNDERSTAND.
I I LIKE TO BE, I LET HER BE THE FINISH.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR US.
UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DID, UH, EMAIL AND CONVERSE AND GUARANTEE MY SPEAKING HERE, UM, THIS AFTERNOON.
SOMETIMES THEY GET LOST IN SHOP ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.
SO, UM, MY APOLOGIES FOR, UH, FOR THE MISCOMMUNICATION.
UM, BUT NONETHELESS, GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIRPERSON.
UH, CITY OF HOUSTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND TO SEE YOU ALL DOING DUTIFUL WORK IN LIGHT OF THE TRAVESTY THAT IS GOING ON IN HOUSTON AND IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE JUST LIKE OURS.
UM, IN LIGHT OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST THAT IS NOW BEING STATED THAT NONE OF OUR PROPERTY WILL BE TAKEN, I, WHEN NOTICE WAS GIVEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I PHONED MR. STRICKLAND AND HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
AND IN THAT PHONE CONVERSATION HE STATED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO GIVE UP THE REQUESTED.
UM, HE SAW NO NEED OF THE REQUESTED 10 FEET THAT HE COULD USE FIVE FEET.
AND THEN YOU TAKE THE FIVE FEET FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S HOW HE, THAT'S, AND, AND THE, THE BREADTH OF THIS CONVERSATION WENT ON TO WHERE I SAID, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU'RE NEW.
WE HAVE ELDERLY PEOPLE HERE AND WE'VE BEEN HERE.
SEUSS NORTON HORTON HAS A, UH, HERE'S A WHO WE ARE, THE WHO HE PUTS IN THIS APPLICATION THAT WE ARE AN EMERGING COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE RESPECT, RESPECTFULLY BEEN HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF HOUSTON.
WE ARE NOT I, WHILE OTHER PEOPLE MADE ME HAVE FOUND US, AND WE HAVE BEEN A REALLY GOOD THING TO FIND.
AND HOW DARE YOU TAKE SOME OF OUR PROPERTY WHEN WE ARE NOT GETTING THE PROFIT? THANK YOU.
AND SO THE BREADTH OF THIS, THAT CONVERSATION ENDED WITH HIM HANGING UP THE PHONE ON ME.
HE IS WELCOME TO COME TO OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
WE HAVE BEEN A COMMUNITY WHERE WE TALK TO EACH OTHER.
HE'S WELCOME TO GET TO KNOW US.
HE IS NOT WELCOME TO USE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US.
UM, AND SO THE TAKING OF THE LAND, NO ONE'S TAKING ANYONE'S LAND.
THERE IS NO LAND TAKING, NO ONE'S TAKING ANY NEIGHBOR'S LAND.
IT'S THE RIGHT OF WAY WITHIN HIS OWN PROPERTY.
SO IT'S ONLY THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY THAT'S BEING AFFECTED WITH GIVING AWAY OF LAND FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY.
PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR US PLEASE.
AND BEFORE MY MINUTES START, CAN WE JUST CLARIFY, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, I'M GONNA USE THE WORD CONFUSION ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE ON EXACTLY WHAT THE VARIANCE IS PROPOSED.
WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT WE WILL BE, WE ARE BEING ASKED TO QUOTE UNQUOTE VOLUNTEER OR DEDICATE PORTIONS OF OUR PROPERTY TO THIS VARIANCE.
SO THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE ARE REFERRING TO, LET ME LET MS. HOR EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.
STAFF MEMBER OR I'M GONNA BE, UH, YOU CAN BE VANNA FOR US.
SO MAY I, SO, SO MA'AM, SO ON THE SCREEN IS THE PROPERTY AT THE INTERSECTION OF DREYFUS RAY, RAYMOND AMMOS AND THAT CORNER.
SO THAT PROPERTY IS THE APPLICANT OR THE DEVELOPER'S PROPERTY.
AND THEY ARE PROPOSING, SO THEY OWN THAT PROPERTY AND THEY'RE PROPOSING 14 LOTS.
AS THEY'RE PROPOSING THESE LOTS, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO WIDEN THESE STREETS THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY, THEY HAVE BEEN 40 FEET WIDE AND THEY'RE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO WIDEN THESE STREETS.
SO BECAUSE THEY ARE PROPOSING THESE LOTS, THEY ARE WIDENING THESE STREETS TO FIVE FEET, ADDING FIVE FEET TO EACH OF THESE STREETS.
BY ORDINANCE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO WIDEN THESE TO 10, 10 ADDITIONAL FEET, BUT THEY'RE DOING FIVE.
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REQUEST IS TO DO A FIVE FEET WIDENING INSTEAD OF 10.THEY ARE NOT ASKING, OR THEY CANNOT ASK TO WIDEN OR TAKE AWAY ANYONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
THEY CAN ONLY ASK TO NOT DO WIDENING FOR THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
SO, SO THAT, YOU SEE THIS ON THE GRID, YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR MAP IT'S ONLY THE BOTTOM AND THE TOP OF THEIR PROPERTY.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE TO GIVE UP SOME OF THEIR PROPERTY FOR THE POTENTIAL WIDENING OF THE STREET.
IT'S ONLY THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH.
IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT ANYONE ELSE'S PROPERTY STRICTLY THEIR OWN.
I'M SORRY IF YOU'VE BEEN MISINFORMED, BUT THE ORDINANCE THAT DEDICATES AS, AS MS. MONTE SAID THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE UP 10 FEET ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH FOR THE POTENTIAL WIDENING OF THE ROAD.
AND THEY BASICALLY SAID THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
CAN WE DO FIVE FEET? AND WE ARE PRETTY MUCH THINKING, YES, WE'RE NOT GONNA EXPAND THAT STREET.
WE'RE NOT GONNA TURN IT INTO A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
SO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR ONLY AFFECTS THEIR PROPERTY ON THE NORTH AND ON THE SOUTH IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING EAST AND WEST.
IT DOESN'T TOUCH ANYONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
AND COMMISSIONER GARZA, IS THAT CLEAR? YES.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY IT'S POTENTIAL, POTENTIAL WIDENING? CORRECT.
SO THE IDEA IS THE CITY SAYS, COMMISSIONER GARZA, YOU NEED TO BE ON THE MIC.
WHEN, SO WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND REDO, SO FOR INSTANCE, FIRST AS AN EXAMPLE, HIS DEDICATING THIS PROPERTY ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR PROPERTIES AT ALL.
NOW, IF ONE OF YOU WERE TO SELL YOUR PROPERTIES IN THE FUTURE, THAT DEVELOPER WOULD ALSO HAVE TO COME AND SAY, HEY, I WANNA DO THIS AND THAT.
AND WE'RE GONNA SAY, YOU HAVE TO DEDICATE 10 FEET ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH 'CAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE ORDINANCE DEMANDS.
IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOUR ROAD IS GONNA BE WIDENED, BUT WE MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT 25 YEARS.
AND SO WE WANT TO BE PREPARED SHOULD THE NEED ARISE.
BUT TODAY HE IS ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE WIDTH OF HIS PROPERTY ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH FIVE FEET, DEDICATION TO THE CITY TO THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THAT'S ALL NOBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY.
AND RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU SEE IT COMPLETED, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE EXPANDED ROAD.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE GREEN SPACE AND SIDEWALKS AND TREES.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE AN EXPANSION OF, OF THE ROAD WHEN HE FINISHES THIS PROJECT.
AND I THINK PART OF THE CONFUSION COMES IN, IT APPEARED THAT THE VARIANCE CHANGED FROM ORIGINALLY 10 FEET OF ALLIANCE, FIVE FEET OF MINE AND MY COMMUNITY PROPERTY AND FIVE FEET OF DEVELOPERS.
YEAH, NO THAT, SO I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S A MISCOMMUNICATION.
ABUTTING THE STREET, DREYFUS AND AMOS, NOTHING ON THE LEFT AND ON THE RIGHT, JUST AMOS AND DREYFUS.
SO, AND IT'S ONLY ON HIS OWN PROPERTY.
IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYONE ELSE'S PROPERTY AROUND HIM AT ALL.
SO IF SOMEONE COMMUNICATED THAT TO YOU, I APOLOGIZE, IT IS INCORRECT.
HE CAN ONLY TOUCH HIS OWN PROPERTY, NO ONE ELSE'S.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
AND I KNOW THAT MR. SMITH WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
UM, MS. MOHER TALKED ABOUT WIDEN THE ROADWAY.
THIS IS NOT ACTUALLY A WIDENING OF THE ROADWAY THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PHYSICAL ROAD PAVEMENT SECTION.
IT IS STRICTLY THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION, WHICH MEANS THE AREA OR THE GROUND COVER THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY FOR USE OF ON NOT ONLY OF THE ROADWAY BUT DRAINAGE OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S OUT THERE.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S ANY CHANGE IS GONNA BE MADE TO THE PHYSICAL ROADWAY.
SO THEY'RE NOT WIDENING THE ROADWAY, THEY'RE JUST DEDICATING ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TO THE CITY FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT, THAT HE'S NOT COMING IN AND GONNA GO BUILD FIVE FOOT LARGER ROAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT THIS TIME.
DID THAT HELP CLARIFY? IT DID.
SO MY MINUTE MAY NOT START
YOU GO AHEAD, BUT SINCE IT HAS STARTED GO AHEAD AGAIN.
I'M BETTY, A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF THE SOUTH UNION.
I LIVE ON AMASS AND I AM GOING TO ASK FOR THIS VARIANCE TO BE DENIED EVEN WITH THE CLARIFICATIONS.
SAFETY, DRAINAGE AND LOGISTICS SAFETY.
WE ARE A VERY DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE CARS THAT PASSES THROUGH AS SOMEONE MENTIONED EVEN WITH THIS SPEED BUMPS DAY AND NIGHT.
AND WE ARE A VERY DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD, OLDER AND YOUNGER.
WE HAVE LOTS OF FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN AND I HAVE A GRAVES, UH, CONCERN FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THE OTHER UM, CONCERNS I HAVE IS
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DRAINAGE.AS IT WAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE NEVER GOTTEN WATER IN OUR HOMES.
BUT AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS DEVELOPED MORE, WE ARE BEGINNING TO SEE RESIDENTS GET WATER IN THEIR HOMES OR NEAR IN THEIR HOMES.
AND I HAVE A LARGE CONCERN THAT THIS WILL CAUSE OUR HOUSE TO INTAKE WATER.
AND THE OTHER AREA I HAVE IS LOGISTICS.
UM, SOME OF THE POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE HAS BEEN CLARIFIED, BUT I STILL DO HAVE A LARGE CONCERN WITH WHERE OUR HOMES ARE LOCATED AND THE WAY THE PROPOSED IN AND OUTAGE OF, UH, TRAFFIC FROM THIS PROPOSED PLOT.
SO AGAIN, FOR THOSE REASONS I ASK THAT THE VARIANCE BE DENIED.
UM, DO I HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS OTHER THAN SPELL PLEASE COME FORWARD.
MY NAME IS LAURA TRYON, T-R-Y-O-N.
I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF SOUTH UNION.
I AM A RESIDENT AND THE VICE AND THE PRESIDENT OF LASETTE PLAY CIVIC CLUB, WHICH IS THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISION.
IT'S MY DUTY TO HELP PROTECT OUR ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
I PROPOSE THAT THIS VARIANCE NOT BE GRANTED.
ONE OF THE THINGS IS YES, WE DO NEED A SETBACK OF MORE THAN FIVE FEET.
WHEN YOU SELL TO YOUR RESIDENCE AND THEY ARE EVEN DOING A SIMPLE POT TASKS, UNLOAD THE FURNITURE ALREADY THE VARIANCE OR THE SETBACK IS SO NARROW THAT THE U-HAUL OR THE FURNITURE TRUCK IS IN THE STREET.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS PLA THAT'S BEING PRESENTED BECAUSE IN ACTUALITY THE FOOTAGE IS NOT CORRECT.
THE STREET IS SO NARROW ALREADY BOTH DREYFUS, RAYMOND AND AMOS, THAT YOU ALMOST HAVE TO STOP TO LET THE, THE CAR COMING TOWARDS YOU TO PASS THEY FLY DOWN THE STREET.
EVEN WITH THE SPEED BUMPS, IT IS ALREADY DANGEROUS.
IT WAS DANGEROUS WHEN THERE WAS A CHURCH THERE.
THERE'S NO ROOM ALREADY FOR THE KIDS TO PLAY, FOR THE ELDERLY TO WALK OR EVEN A YOUNGER PERSON TO TAKE A STROLL.
THESE AMOUNT OF LOTS OF HOMES, IT, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT BUILT TO SUPPORT.
THERE WILL BE FLOODING, THERE WILL BE LACK OF ELECTRICITY AND AND SLOW INTERNET.
I PROPOSE THAT THE BUYER KNEW THESE THINGS BEFORE HE PURCHASED AND HE PURCHASED FOR A LOWER COST.
HE DID NOT DO HIS INVESTIGATIONS PROPERLY.
AND I PROPOSED THAT HE RE-PROPOSED THE USAGE OF THE LAND.
HOW YOU DOING? LISTEN, I CAME DOWN HERE.
I DID NOT BELIEVE Y'ALL WAS HAVING PLANNING COMMISSION 'CAUSE Y'ALL KNOW, DON'T NOBODY GOT NO LIGHTS.
I CAN'T BELIEVE Y'ALL GOING FORWARD WITH THIS.
BUT I AM HERE WITH THIS RESIDENCE AS LONG BECAUSE I AM THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT OF MCGREGOR SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEY ARE IN THE SOUTH UNION PRESIDENT WITH PRESS THE ROPE, BEEN THE PRESIDENT FOREVER.
AND TODAY MS. JACKSON IS ONE OF THE FOURTH HOUSES.
I CAME IN 81 WHEN I CAME HERE FOR COLLEGE.
UH, HER DAUGHTER WAS MY BEST FRIEND.
THAT'S BEEN A THRIVING COMMUNITY.
IT AIN'T NO EMERGING COMMUNITY.
AND THE SHOW AIN'T IN SUNNYSIDE WILL SHOW YOU THE PERSON WHO PUT THE APPLICATION IN DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE HELL HE COMING TO DEVELOP.
'CAUSE HE DIDN'T EVEN CHECK HIS HISTORY.
THAT, THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE CLOSE KNITTED MY PROBLEM.
I DIDN'T, I I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WAS TALKING ABOUT Y'ALL WAS TAKING FIVE FEET.
I DIDN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THAT.
I CARED ABOUT THE FLOODING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING OVER THERE.
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY, BECAUSE Y'ALL NEVER GO BACK AND Y'ALL CHECK ONCE Y'ALL GRANTED THEY ARE TRULY RAISING THEIR LAND SO THAT THE PROPERTY BECOME NEXT TO IT BECOMES A DETENTION POND.
ONCE THEY GOT THEIR PERMITS, Y'ALL DONE AND THIS IS NOT GONNA WORK.
'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT FINNA CHANGE SOUTH UNION TO FOURTH WARD.
'CAUSE THAT'S JUST WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
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HE SHOULD GET NO LESS WHATEVER'S TEMPORARY REQUIREMENT, PLEASE YOU TO GET IT.PLEASE EXCUSE ME, PLEASE NO, NO AUDIENCE, NO CLAPPING AND, AND ALL THAT.
LISA, YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT YOU, YOU GOT YOUR TIME, YOU GOT 10 SECONDS AFTER.
I MEAN I NEED YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU LOOK, THIS SHOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD.
THAT CHURCH THAT USED TO BE THAT WHEN THEY HAD CHURCH, THOSE PEOPLE COULDN'T EVEN GET IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS BECAUSE THOSE STREETS ARE NARROW.
YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THE STREETS LOOK LIKE ON NO STREETS OVER THERE OFF OF, OFF OF GRAY STREET, NOT WEST GRAY, GRAY STREET.
YOU ARE GONNA PUT ALL OF THESE WHERE A CHURCH USED TO BE WHERE THERE WASN'T A RESIDENT, SO THERE WAS NO RESIDENTIAL PARKING.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THESE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUTTA THERE GOING IN THERE.
AND THERE'S NOT A HOUSE OVER THERE WHERE BIG MAMA'S HOUSE AIN'T EVERYBODY'S HOUSE.
SO YOU GOT A BUNCH OF LITTLE KIDS OVER THERE PLAYING.
THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND IT IS A CONCERN AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY A DRAINAGE ISSUE.
WE WERE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS BAD AS THIS WAS WITH THE WIND AND THE DAMAGE ADD WATER TO THIS, HAD THIS BEEN A TRUE WATER AND WIND, IT WOULD HAVE OBLITERATED THIS COMMUNITY.
SO I MEAN IT, YOU ALL NEED TO DEFER THIS.
GO BACK, LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE DOING, GO OUT THERE AND SEE IT AND MODIFY THIS AND DENY THIS APPLICATION.
YES, I, I THOUGHT WE WOULD JUST CLARIFY THE RIGHT OF WAY AGAIN.
AND THEN I ALSO WANTED US TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE, WE DO CARE MS. BELL, THIS WHOLE, EVERYONE AROUND HERE CARES.
UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE AND THAT'S WHY WE VOLUNTEER OUR TIME, UH, TO THE CITY.
WE'RE ALL WHERE MOST OF US ARE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND OR THE ETJ.
AND SO WE DO CARE AND WE CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT WHAT WE APPROVE HERE IS VERY LIMITED.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FLOODING, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY TYPE OF, UH, UTILITIES.
SO I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW WE DO CARE.
AND SO THE NEXT STEP WOULD THEN BE THEY GO TO PERMITTING IF THIS WAS APPROVED AND AT PERMITTING AND THEY SUBMIT THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLANS, PUBLIC WORKS, REVIEWS, ALL OF THAT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE FLOODING AND EVERYTHING, THE DRAINAGE AND DETENTION IS ALL ADDRESSED.
AND I HOPE THAT HELPS YOU BECAUSE WE DO CARE.
I DON'T WELL I'M SORRY, BUT I DID JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YES, COMMISSIONER GARZA.
SO MR. BUTLER, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
SO FIRST, 'CAUSE WE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FIVE FEET AND THE 10 FEET AND THE RIGHT OF WAY.
DO WE, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE DISTANCE FROM THE CURB IS TO THE FIRST, TO THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING LINE? CERTAINLY WE'VE GOT, UH, SLIDES AFTER THE SITE FIND THAT LOOKS AT EACH SIDE.
SO I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SEE ON THE GROUND FROM THE CURB BEHIND THE CURB, RIGHT.
THE, THE LANDSCAPING AREA NE NEXT TO THE PAVING SECTION IS GONNA REMAIN UNCHANGED.
YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE THE FOUR FOOT, UH, BUFFER, THE EXISTING DITCH, AND THEN A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK THERE.
THAT'S 16 FEET BACK A CURB FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO WHATEVER FENCE THEY PUT UP, THERE'S 16 FEET BETWEEN.
SO 16 FEET BEHIND THE CURB IS WHERE THE FIRST, THE FENCE LINE WILL BE OR THE FIRST BUILDING FENCE LINE.
THE FENCE LINE IN ADDITION TO THAT.
AND THEN ANOTHER WHAT, THREE TO FIVE FEET RIGHT BEFORE A BUILDING STARTS? FIVE.
THEN SAY THERE NO, LET, NO, I'M SORRY.
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THEN AND NOT NOW.
SO THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, SO DISTANCE FROM THE CURB, ARE THERE ANY ORDINANCES PUT IN PLACE TO PREVENT THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE BEEN INSTITUTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD? LIKE MINIMUM LOT SIZE OR SETBACK? HAVE ANY OF THOSE BEEN PUT IN PLACE TO PREVENT THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT FROM GOING FORWARD? NO.
SO IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO PUT THOSE IN PLACE FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS INTO THE FUTURE THAT WON'T AFFECT THIS, BUT IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO DO THAT? CORRECT.
I, I SPOKE WITH THE COMMUNITY SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION BEFORE THIS.
THEY DID SAY THAT SOME OF THE BLOCKS TO THE EAST OF HERE ESPECIALLY, UH, LOOK LIKE THEY WOULD QUALIFY.
THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK IS ALREADY, THERE'S A CHURCH PROPERTY THERE.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN WELL SUBDIVIDED, SO THIS BLOCK WOULDN'T QUALIFY.
BUT A LOT OF THEM, THE SURROUNDING BLOCKS WOULD, MIGHT INTO THE FUTURE.
AND THEN, THEN, UM, SO THAT'S GOOD FOR ME.
SO MR. SMITH, RICHARD, WOULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, BECAUSE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I HEAR, I THINK HERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF FLOODING AND THAT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE THAT COMES UP FOR THIS CHAMBER.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK TO, TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT.
WELL, THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TO DO THEIR DETENTION FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THE ISSUE HERE IS GONNA BE THAT WHEN THEY BUILD ANY DRAINAGE THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DO, THEY'RE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO MEET OUR CURRENT DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS OR DETENTION REQUIREMENTS FOR STORAGE OF WATER BEFORE IT GOES OUT INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY.
HOWEVER, THAT WILL NOT HELP ANY EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
THAT WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT OR THE PAVEMENT AND OTHER FEATURES THEY PUT DOWN THAT WOULD BE TAKING AWAY, UM, ANY GRASS SURFACE,
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ET CETERA.SO IN THAT REGARD, IF THERE IS FLOODING OUT THERE TODAY BECAUSE OF PRIOR DEVELOPMENT, ANYTHING THAT THIS ONE DOES WAS NOT GOING TO AFFECT THAT.
WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IT SHOULD NOT MAKE IT ANY WORSE THAN IT IS TODAY BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD THEN BE, UM, ANY DRAINAGE THAT WOULD BE GOING OUT INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY SHOULD BE CONTAINED WITHIN THEIR SITE AND THEN RELEASED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY AT A SET RATE THAT WOULD THEN ALLOW IT ANY, THAT WE WOULD CURRENTLY ALLOW ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT TO DO, WHICH WOULD HOPEFULLY PREVENT IT FROM INCREASING ANY FLOODING ISSUES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, IT'S NOT GONNA HELP ANYTHING THAT IS CURRENTLY ALREADY OUT THERE OR HINDER IT.
NO, IT WON'T, IT SHOULD NOT HINDER, IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO DETENTION.
AND IT APPEARS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT PLOT THAT EVERYTHING THEY'RE GONNA DO IS ALL THEIR DETENTION WOULD BE UNDERGROUND AND THEN DRAINING OUT INTO THE DITCHES OR HOWEVER THEY, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER THEY'RE GONNA PUT IT OUT TO, INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY.
BUT THERE'S SET RATES AT WHICH THEY CAN RELEASE THAT WATER INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THAT WILL COME LATER.
AGAIN, NOT, NOT FROM THIS BODY THAT COMES PERMITTING AND THAT COMES WITH THE DRAINAGE PLAN AND STUFF LIKE THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY.
UM, AND IN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ASKING TO DEDICATE FIVE FEET INSTEAD OF 10 FEET, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DEDICATED THE 10 FEET ON BOTH THE DREYFUS AND WOULDN'T CHANGE, UM, AMOS, THEY COULD BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANTED EXACTLY.
COMMISSION WOULDN'T, THIS COMMISSION WOULD HAVE NO, AND NEITHER PERMITTING NOR THIS COMMISSION WOULD HAVE ANY SAY.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BALDWIN.
MR. BUTLER, CAN I GET CLARITY ON THE BLOCK OF DREYFUS BETWEEN TOURIST AND THE NEXT BLOCK? HOW MANY HAVE ALREADY REPLANTED AND DEDICATED THE FIVE FEET? FROM WHAT I'M LOOKING AT ON THE LITTLE PLAT MAP, MULTIPLE 2, 4, 4 LOTS ON THAT SIDE AND MULTIPLE LOTS ACROSS THE STREET.
ALREADY DEDICATED JUST THE FIVE FEET.
SO THE ONES ACROSS THE STREET DEDICATED FIVE FEET.
ABOUT THREE, WELL HALFWAY UP THE BLOCK AND THEN THE, THE OTHER CHURCH PROPERTIES DEDICATED 10 FEET.
THEY WERE NARROW FRONT LOADING LOTS.
THE ONE OVER FROM THE LARGE TRACK, CORRECT.
THE ONES ON THE SAME BLOCK JUST TO THE WEST.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU MR. BUTLER.
UH, GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER HIN.
SO I WAS VERY CURIOUS ON THAT QUESTION.
UH, A COMMISSIONER ASKED, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DREYFUS, CORRECT? UM, AND SO ON THE NORTH SIDE OF DREYFUS, DR ON THE NORTH SIDE OF D DREYFUS, BUT ALSO AMOS, THEY HAD A RIGHT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT DREFUS FIRST.
SO ON THE NORTH SIDE, UH, ON DREFUS ON THE NORTH SIDE, THERE'S ALREADY, UM, UH, 10 FOOT CORRECT? AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE SOUTH SIDE OF DREYFUS? ON THE SOUTH SIDE, IT'S FIVE FEET.
UM, NOW ON AMOS, WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE THERE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN REPLANTED? I DO, THAT'S MOSTLY ESTABLISHED.
SO THAT'S, MOST OF AMOS IS THE ORIGINAL 40 FEET.
THIS WOULD BE FIVE FEET ON THAT SIDE.
AND THEN, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION ON AMOS, JUST TO CLARIFY FROM CURB TO PROPERTY LINE.
UH, CURRENTLY IT'S, IT'S WHAT, 16 FEET ROUGHLY? 16 FEET.
AND THEN FROM PROPERTY LINE TO SETBACK IS 10 FEET.
RIGHT? WELL, SO THE SETBACK WOULD BE FIVE FEET FROM THAT.
AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SHOWING IT'S 10, BUT THEY, THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO TO TO FIVE.
WELL, ON THE SITE PLAN, THEY'RE SHOWING IT'S FIVE.
SO IT WOULD BE, IT'S A FIVE FOOT SETBACK WITH FIVE FEET OF DEDICATION.
SO RIGHT FROM THE BUILDING ITSELF, IT WOULD BE 2121, WHICH IS BASICALLY TO THAT ROOF LIGHTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SOUTH SIDE THE, OKAY.
COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF TO GRANT THE REQUESTED VARIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED TO HAVE A MOTION.
MOVING ON TO E SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS.
[f. Reconsiderations of Requirement]
RECONSIDERATION OF REQUIREMENTS.ITEM 1 33 IS CROSBY FARM SECTION FOUR.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN HARRIS COUNTY, ETJ EAST OF FM, 2100 WEST OF MILLER WILSON, AND SOUTH OF DIAMONDHEAD.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSED A SUBDIVISION OF 84 LOTS ON PUBLIC
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STREETS.THE APPLICATION IS RE, EXCUSE ME.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING RECONSIDERATION OF REQUIREMENTS WITHOUT A VARIANCE TO REMOVE A PLAT CONDITION THAT REQUIRED A SEGMENT OF OLYMPIC HARBOR DRIVE TO BE RECORDED.
SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THIS PLAT STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE STUDY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE CROSBY FARMS GENERAL PLAN.
THIS SECTION WAS APPROVED WITH A CONDITION TO PLAT A STREET SEGMENT TO CONNECT WITH FM 2100 TO ENSURE THE STREET PATTERN IS FULLY DEVELOPED AS ENVISIONED BY THE GENERAL PLAN.
THE APPLICANT ASSERTS THAT COORDINATION WITH TXDOT WILL DELAY THE STREET CONNECTION AND THAT THE PLAT SHOULD NOT BE TIED TO ITS COMPLETION.
STAFF FINDS THAT ALL PROVISIONS OF 42 WOULD BE MET WITHOUT REQUIRING THE FINAL SEGMENT OF LITHIC HARBOR DRIVE.
THE SITE WILL MEET THE POINTS OF ACCESS REQUIREMENT THROUGH RECENTLY RECORDED SECTIONS, UH, TO BOTH ABUTTING THOROUGH FARES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVING THE PLAT WITHOUT THE CONDITION TO RECORD OLYMPIC HARBOR DRIVE TO FM 2100.
AND WE'VE RECEIVED NO ADVANCE WRITTEN COMMENT.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 33.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? OKAY.
SEEING NON-COMMISSION, THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
ALL IN FAVOR? A OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
ITEM 1 34 IS MCKINNEY DEVELOPMENT REPL NUMBER ONE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN HOUSTON'S CORPORATE LIMIT EAST OF EMANCIPATION IN SOUTH OF HARRISBURG.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A RESERVE FOR AN EXPANDING AN EXISTING RESTAURANT AND IS REQUESTING RECONSIDERATION OF THE REQUIREMENT TO SET THE NEW ADDITION BACK ZERO FEET FROM MCKINNEY AS OPPOSED TO REQUIRED 10 STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE SITE IS LOCATED THE INTERSECTION OF MCKINNEY AND NAGLE STREETS IN THE EAST DOWNTOWN MARKET-BASED PARKING AREA.
THE SITE WAS GRANTED A VARIANCE IN 2018 TO EXPAND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.
THE APPLICANT NOW PROPOSES TO REMOVE ONE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURES AND BUILD AN ADDITION CONNECTED TO THE MAIN BUILDING.
THIS WOULD RESULT IN A SINGLE RESTAURANT SITUATED ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE AND WOULD REMOVE AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE APPLICANT'S PROVIDING A PEDESTRIAN REALM WITH A SIX FOOT UNOBSTRUCTED SIDEWALK, FOUR FOOT BUFFER, AND THREE INCH CALIPER STREET TREES ALONG MCKINNEY STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S GOALS ON PROMOTING PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
WE RECEIVED NO ADVANCE WRITTEN COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
I HAVE ONE SPEAKER THAT'S HERE JUST FOR QUESTIONS.
MARK LATA, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANTED TO MAKE OR OKAY.
TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? OKAY, GREAT.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HOW IS THE FOOD SO GOOD THERE?
I'LL KNOW WHEN I SEE YOU IN THE KITCHEN NOT TO EAT.
I'LL, I'LL PUT A MOTION AND THEN I'LL JUST ADD FOR COMMENT THAT I, I APPRECIATE YOU CLEANING UP THE ENCROACHMENT ON THE RIGHT OF WAY VERY MUCH WITH THE, THE REDEVELOPMENT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RAMEZ.
[Platting Activities g - j]
G EXTENSIONS OF APPROVAL.UH, IF IT PLEASES THIS COMMISSION STAFF WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SECTIONS GHI AND J AS ONE GROUP? YES, PLEASE.
SECTIONS G EXTENSION OF APPROVAL CONSISTS OF ITEMS 1 35 THROUGH 1 39.
SECTION H NAME CHANGES CONSISTS OF ITEM ONE 40 SECTION I CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE CONSISTS OF ITEMS 1 41 THROUGH 1 42 AND SECTION J ADMINISTRATIVE HAS NO ITEMS. THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REQUESTS TO APPROVE OF ALL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SEC SECTIONS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I'M GONNA ABSTAIN FROM ITEM 1 36.
[k. Development Plats with Variance Requests (Ramon Jaime-Leon and Tammi Williamson) ]
PLATS WITH VARIANCE REQUESTS.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM 1 43, UH, 1 0 7 2 6 RUED DRIVE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED NORTH OF WILS WILCREST DRIVE AND WEST OF BELLWAY EIGHT AT THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF WALNUT BEND LANE AND RUED DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A NEW TWO STORY GARAGE ADDITION AND IS AND IS REQUESTING A 10 FOOT GARAGE BUILDING LINE IN LIEU OF THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED 20 FOOT GARAGE BUILDING LINE ALONG, UH, WHILE NOT BEND LANE, A LOCAL STREET STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.
THE LOT WAS PLATTED WITH, UH, WITHIN, UH, WALNUT BEND SECTION
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EIGHT IN 1964 WITH A 25 FOOT BUILDING LINE ALONG RUSTED AND A 10 FOOT BUILDING LINE ALONG WALNUT LANE.THE EXISTING GARAGE WILL BE DEMOLISHED IN A NEW GARAGE WITH A SECOND STORY ADDITION WILL BE CONSTRUCTED KEEPING THE EXISTING GARAGE SETBACK AND VEHICULAR AXIS FROM THE SIDE STREET WALNUT BEND LANE.
THE LOCATION OF THE GARAGE DOOR WILL BE SITUATED 21 FEET, UH, FROM THE SIDEWALK.
THIS WILL ALLOW ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING ON THE DRIVEWAY WITHOUT OBSTRUCTING THE EX.
THE EXISTING FIVE FOOT SETBACK, NO, SORRY.
THE EXISTING, UH, FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK.
THE PROPOSAL IS IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS, UH, THE OTHER CORNER PROPERTIES HAVE A SIMILAR SETBACK.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.
UH, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, SO THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
DO I HAVE A MOTION JONES? MOTION JONES.
[II. Establish a public hearing date of August 8, 2024]
MOVE ALONG TO, UH, ROMAN NUMERAL TWO.ESTABLISH A PUBLIC HEARING, A HEARING DATE OF AUGUST 8TH, 2024 FOR THE ITEMS LISTED ON THE SCREEN.
COMMISSIONERS, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION BALDWIN.
[III. Consideration of a Landscape Variance at 1905 Brittmore Road (Ed Buckley) ]
ROMAN NUMERAL THREE.NOW THIS ONE WAS EXTENDED ALSO FOR 30 DAYS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ROMAN NUMERAL THREE IS 1905 BRIMORE ROAD.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ON BRIMORE ROAD NORTH OF FULLERTON DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING AGRICULTURAL SCHOOL AND IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO WAVE THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE A SIX FOOT WOOD MASONRY OR CONCRETE FENCE OR 15 FOOT EVERGREEN LANDSCAPING BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION AND THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES TO THE SOUTH.
AT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER, TO ALLOW MORE TIME TO COORDINATE A MEETING BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE AFFECTED NEIGHBORS.
SO LET ME ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN.
WAS IT LAST MEETING WHERE, WHERE WE EXTENDED FOR 30 DAYS? SO YES.
LEGAL, WE DON'T, WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TWO MORE WEEKS.
WE DEFERRED THIS ITEM FOR 30 DAYS.
SO IT DOES NOT NEED TO FOLLOW THAT.
IT CAN BE DEFERRED BEYOND THAT.
SO IT CAN JUST CONTINUE TO BE DEFERRED.
SO TO ADD A A BIT OF CONTEXT, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON DETERMINING WHEN THAT MEETING CAN BE SCHEDULED.
UM, IF IT CAN'T BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE'RE GONNA ASK THEM TO WITHDRAW AND RESUBMIT.
UM, WE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THEM IN THE LAST FEW DAYS BECAUSE OF THIS MOMENT TO HOLIDAY.
ALL IN FAVOR? A OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.
[IV. Consideration of an Off-Street Parking Variance at 1414 Rosalie Street (Geoff Butler) ]
ROMAN NUMERAL FOUR CONSIDERATION OF AN OFF STREET PARKING VARIANCE AT 1414 ROSALIE.THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN HOUSTON'S CORPORATE LIMIT, UH, NORTH OF BELGIAN, EAST OF MAIN STREET.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A 40 UNIT MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN OFF STREET PARKING VARIANCE TO PROVIDE 43 PARKING SPACES ON SITE AS OPPOSED TO THE REQUIRED 48 STAFF IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST.
THE STUDY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE MIDTOWN COMMUNITY ALONG TWO DESIGNATED WALKABLE PLACES STREETS.
THIS DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR OPTING INTO PEDESTRIAN REALM ENHANCEMENT STANDARDS IN EXCHANGE FOR GRADABLE GREATER BILLABLE AREA.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT OPTING INTO THESE STANDARDS AND THIS PROVISION DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY DISCOUNTS FOR OFF STREET PARKING.
THE APPLICANT IS RECEIVING A DISCOUNT ON THE 53 SPACE PARKING REQUIREMENT BY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL BIKE PARKING.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO FURTHER REDUCE THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENT FROM 48 SPACES TO 43.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A PARKING ANALYSIS AS REQUESTED BY STAFF.
THIS ANALYSIS CITES PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT, THE TARGET MARKET AREA, AND AREA.
CAR OWNERSHIP IS AMONG REASONS FOR FLEXIBLE INTERPRETATION OF THE ORDINANCE.
HOWEVER, STAFF FINDS THAT THE STUDY HAS NOT ADEQUATELY ADDRESS CONCERNS OVER THE DEVELOPMENTS IMPACT ON EXISTING PARKING CAPACITY IN THE AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENYING THE REQUEST TO PROVIDE 43 SPACES INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED 48.
AND STAFF HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS WRITTEN COMMENTS, UH, WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OBJECTING AND SUPPORTING THIS REQUEST.
FIRST SPEAKER IS JOEY STROLLER.
I I AM REALLY CONFUSED 'CAUSE IT SAYS AFTER MARY, BUT THEN MARY SAYS, I WANNA SPEAK LESS.
ARE YOU COMING UP FIRST? MARY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, AND
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I DO NOT MIND HELP, HELP ME WITH THE CONFUSION.GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBER, UH, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME'S MARY VIRE WITH THE INTER FIELD GROUP.
UM, WE ARE DISAPPOINTED THAT THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL HAS CHANGED EVEN WITH GIVING A WIDER PEDESTRIAN REALM AND SOME REVISIONS, CLARIFICATIONS TO CREATE MORE ROOM IN THE BIKE AREA.
WE AND THE DEVELOPER WERE, UH, WE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO PROVIDE A PARKING ST UH, TRAFFIC STUDY DRAINAGE LETTER AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, THE INITIAL APPROVAL WOULD'VE BEEN BASED ON HAVING A CURB CUT ALONG ROSALIE, THE DEVELOPER CHOSE TO DEFER THE APPLICATION TO WORK WITH A PARKING CONSULTANT TO REMOVE THE DRIVEWAY.
ALONG ROSALIE, THIS COORDINATION AND MEETING WITH THE STAFF MADE THE REMOVAL OF THE DRIVEWAY SUCCESSFUL, WHICH IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT AT LEAST ONE OF THE NEIGHBOR REQUESTED THAT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT BE CHANGED TO TOWN HOMES.
THE DISAPPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION WILL STILL RESULT IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT BE AN APARTMENTS LESS FIVE UNITS.
IN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, THE DEVELOPER WAS WILLING TO REDESIGN THE LOCATION OF EXHAUST VENTILATION OF THE DUMPSTER TO THE BRANCH.
IN BEING, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORK TO WORK WITH HIS DEVELOPER WHO HAS BEEN WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
THE NEIGHBORS AND DISAPPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION WILL DENY THE DEVELOPER AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE FOR A NEW RESIDENCE, PROVIDING THE SAME ELEMENTS FOUND IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS CONSTRUCTED IN WALKABLE PLACES.
THE DEVELOPMENT QUALIFIES FOR THE 50% PARKING REDUCTION EXCEPT THE QUALIFICATION OVERLAPS THE WALKABLE PLACES IN THIS AREA.
WE BELIEVE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE THE CITY WITH MUCH NEEDED LIVING SPACES AND BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE AREA WITH WIDER PEDESTRIAN REALM, UH, IN THE SAME AREA THAT MAKES IT MORE WALKABLE.
WE REQUEST THAT YOU TAKE ALL OF THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION.
COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? I CAN I JUST GET CLARITY EITHER FROM YOU MARY, OR FROM MR. BUTLER MM-HMM
WHAT PART OF WALKABLE PLACES DOES IT NOT MEET? WHAT, WHAT CRITERIA DID IT NOT MEET? THE, THE BIG ONE IS THE, THE GROUND FLOOR PARKING.
UM, THERE, THERE, THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GROUND FLOOR, ACTIVE GROUND FLOOR USE, UH, USE OF SPACE.
AND THERE IS NOTHING OF OFFICE OR ANYTHING THERE.
THERE'S A LITTLE, BUT THEY, THEY'RE USING, THEY'RE ABIDING BY THE SETBACK, UH, OF 10 FEET.
SO IT'S, IT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE CHOOSING NOT TO OPT INTO THAT.
AND DID WE THOROUGHLY EXPLORE HOW THAT COULD WORK? CERTAINLY.
I'M A HUGE FAN OF WALKABLE PLACES OVER HERE.
UM, YES, WE WE DID LOOK INTO THAT GYM OR SOMETHING IN THAT SPACE OR SOMETHING.
IT IS JUST THAT IT IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEIR PARKING WOULD BE.
AND ASIDE FROM ADDING OTHER TENANTS, LIKE COMMERCIAL TENANTS OR WHATEVER, THAT WOULD REQUIRE MORE PARKING AND REQUIRE THE BUILDING BE TALLER.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, NEXT SPEAKER.
STR WITH CHARTER CUSTOM HOMES AND I'M PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM FOR ROSALIE.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT IN RESPECT TO BEING A TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND THE PROJECT'S WALKABILITY.
THIS PROJECT FULLY SUPPORTS THE CITY'S MISSION FOR A MORE WALK WALKABLE MIDTOWN.
AS PER THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THE GOAL OF THESE WALKABLE AREAS IS TO ENCOURAGE WALKABILITY AND PROMOTE BETTER, MORE SCALED PUBLIC SPACES.
FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THE WALKABILITY OF ROSALIE AND THE WALKER CONSULTANT REPORT.
REDFIN HAS GIVEN THIS PROJECT A SCORE OF 84 OUT OF A HUNDRED, WHICH IS COMPARABLE TO THE AVERAGES OF, OF VERY WALKABLE CITIES, SUCH AS SAN FRANCISCO WITH A SCORE OF 89 NEW YORK WITH A SCORE OF 88 BOSTON WITH A SCORE OF 83 CHICAGO WITH A SCORE OF 77.
ROSALIE HAS ACCESS TO MO MULTIPLE TRANSPORTATION MODES, INCLUDING BICYCLING, METRO BUS, METRO RAIL.
IT'S 0.4 MILES FROM THE METRO RAIL STATION.
AND A METRO BUS STATION IS LOCATED ON THE SAME BLOCK OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, A NATURAL STUDY, A NATIONAL STUDY OF 95,000 BEDROOMS WITHIN HALF A MILE OF A RAIL TRANSIT STATION PRODUCED A WEIGHTED AVERAGE PARKING GENERATION RATE OF 0.49 PARKING CARS PER BEDROOM SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THAN THE 1.05 SPACES INCLUDED IN THE 1 4 0 0 8 ROSALIE BUILDING PROGRAM.
IN ADDITION, THIS PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE FOR TWO OUTTA THE THREE CITIES PROGRAMS THAT REDUCES PARKING.
IT'S IN THE WALKABLE PLACES DISTRICT, AND IT'S ON THE SECONDARY TOD STREET.
IF IT WERE TWO BLOCKS OVER, IT'D BE ELIGIBLE FOR MARKET-BASED PARKING.
WITH THE TOD DISCOUNT, WE WOULD BE AT 171% OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, NOT INCLUDING THE NINE SPACES ON THE STREET.
THESE BUILDINGS ARE RARELY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPANCY.
THE AVERAGE IS AN 8% VACANCY RATE, AND DURING THE DAY, REPAIRMEN
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WOULD COME WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOT AT WORK.SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR THEM TO PARK ON THE STREET.
WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THE CITY TO GRANT US A 50% REDUCTION, JUST FIVE SPACES, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 10%.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STEVE STROLLER.
MY NAME IS STEVE STROLLER WITH CHARTER CUSTOM HOMES.
I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A COLD, BUT, UM, I'M GONNA TRY NOT TO BE REDUNDANT, BUT I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE EVOLUTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S BEEN IN THE PLANNING FOR THREE PLUS YEARS.
ORIGINALLY WE HAD 35 UNITS PLANNED.
WE'RE CURRENTLY IN PERMITTING.
I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY 80, 85% THROUGH PERMITTING FOR THE 35 UNITS, WHICH WE HAVE AMPLE PARKING FOR.
UM, SO AS THE MARKET HAS CHANGED, AS INTEREST RATES HAVE GONE UP, BUILDING COST, HAVE SKYROCKETED, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO STEP BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS FIRST OPTION.
WE LOOKED AT, OKAY, LET'S TAKE AWAY THE TRASH CHUTE.
LET'S TAKE AWAY THE ENCLOSED HALLWAYS, LET'S TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, TRYING TO MAKE THIS THING WORK.
SECONDLY, WE LOOKED AT THE TOD AND EVERYTHING IN THE TOD SUPPORTS.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE A COUPLE BLOCKS AWAY FROM NOT EVEN HAVE TO ASK FOR THIS VARIANCE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, I THINK IT ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING THE CITY WAS TRYING TO DO WITH THE TOD.
I MEAN, IF THIS PROJECT DOES NOT QUALIFY, I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE WILL IN MIDTOWN, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S FOUR STORIES.
IT'S WITHIN SCALE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE TYPICAL TOWNHOUSE PROJECT'S 48 FEET.
IT'S, UH, IT'S GOT A SECURITY FENCE, LIGHTING, UH, LANDSCAPING ELEVATORS, ENC, CLOSED WALKWAYS.
IT'S, IT'S 0.4 0.40 MILES FROM THE RAIL.
IT'S, THERE'S A BUS STOP WITHIN 45 FEET FROM THIS.
THERE'S THE BIKE LANE THAT RUNS RIGHT DOWN THE BRANCH IN THE FRONT.
UM, AND IT'S GOT AN ENCLOSED LOBBY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE, AGAIN, IT, IT, IT'S A BETTER PROJECT AT 40.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING AWAY THE ENCLOSED LOBBY.
WE'RE TAKING AWAY THE ENCLOSED WALKWAYS.
WE'RE TAKING AWAY SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AT 40.
IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S A BETTER BUILDING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S, IT'S, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. BUTLER.
UM, I HEARD THERE THAT ALL THEY'RE ON USING OFF STREET PARKING THAT CAN'T BE COUNTED AS PART OF THEIR PARKING ABILITY, CORRECT? RIGHT.
ALL THE PARKING THAT WE'RE COUNTING IS INTERNAL TO THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, THERE WAS A MENTION ABOUT THE STUDY.
DIDN'T THE STUDY SAY SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, TWO POINT SOMETHING, 2.7, 2.8% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS AREA DON'T OWN A CAR.
THERE, THERE WAS A PASSAGE CITING, UH, CENSUS DATA ABOUT CAR OWNERSHIP IN THE AREA.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT WHAT THE FIGURE WAS, WHICH IT'S VERY LOW FOR NO, NO OWNERSHIP.
IS THAT CORRECT? HONESTLY, I, I HAVEN'T COMPARED IT WITH OTHER, UM, OKAY.
I, I, I DID READ THE STUDY AND YES.
SO THE DATA PER THE STUDY DOES INDICATE THAT, UH, 2.8% AND, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
AND YOU CAN CLARIFY IF THE STUDY SAYS THE, UH, SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE READ.
BUT YOUR STUDY DOES INDICATE THAT, UH, 2.8% OF THE RENTER OCCUPIED HOMES, UH, HAVE, UM, NO CAR.
THAT THAT IS A SMALL NUMBER COMPARED TO THE 11% REDUCTION OF PARKING SPACES THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER MORRIS, UM, AND I THINK THIS IS AVAILABLE SINCE IT'S ALREADY IN PERMITTING, BUT YOU SAID 38 UNITS? 35.
THEY'RE ALL 35 1 BEDROOMS. OKAY.
WELL, YOU HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU, I'LL JUST THROW SOMETHING OUT.
UM, I'M, I'M GONNA GO WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT I, I WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT I, I LOVE, I LOVE THE PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S AN AMAZING PROJECT.
AND THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE FACING HERE AS A COMMISSION IS IT DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERION TO GIVE YOU A PASS.
AND THAT IS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE'S A LACK OF HARDSHIP.
SO IF THERE WAS AN INABILITY TO BUILD IT THE WAY THAT YOU WANTED TO OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, IT BASICALLY MEANS YOU BUILD FEW, A COUPLE OF FEW LESS UNITS AND ADD MORE PARKING.
BECAUSE I REALLY STARTED WITH FIVE.
WHAT IS FIVE? WHO CARES? IT'S FIVE.
AND THAT'S HOW I WAS LOOKING AT IT.
REMEMBER, I DID LIVABLE PLACES, AND SO AS, AS WE DID TOGETHER AND WE'RE LIKE, THIS IS GREAT, BUT AGAIN, IT
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DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA.AND SO I'M, I'M FORCED, UH, AS I THINK MOST OF US WILL AGREE TO VOTE NO, BECAUSE THERE'S A LACK OF HARDSHIP.
IT IS, THERE'S NOTHING ON THE GROUND.
YOU'RE BUILDING IT FROM SCRATCH.
SO, MOTION STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, COMMISSIONER HINES OR BALDWIN, WHICH ONE?
WELL, I'M JUST GONNA SAY, I MEAN, I, I DON'T IF WE'RE GONNA GRANT A PARKING VARIANCE, I BELIEVE THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT WE WOULD, IT'S IN A LOCATION THAT WE WOULD, I DRIVE BY THE COMPLEX THAT WE DENIED THE PARKING VARIANCE FOR AT SIX AND A HALF AND OXFORD ALMOST EVERY DAY.
AND THERE ARE 30 SPARE PARKING SPOTS AT THIS, WHERE THERE'S PARKING ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE UNITS ARE UP ABOVE IT.
IT'S NEVER REMOTELY CLOSE TO BEING FULL.
AND THESE NUMBERS OF 1.33 OR 1.66 PER ONE BEDROOM UNITS, IT'S AN ARBITRARY NUMBER IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
PEOPLE DO WALK, THEY DO USE THE RAIL, THEY DO USE THE BUSES.
THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC POLICY.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS ONE CLEARLY IS ONE THAT I'M GONNA SUPPORT FOR FIVE PARKING SPOT REDUCTION WHEN THERE IS OFF STREET PARKING THAT'S NOT BEING COUNTED.
THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE FROM RUSH HOUR TYPE SITUATIONS.
BUT I BELIEVE IT CLEARLY MEETS THE OBJECTIVE OF THE WALKABLE PLACES INITIATIVE.
AND IF IT WERE TWO BLOCKS OVER, IT WOULD BE AUTOMATIC.
AND THAT'S JUST AN ARBITRARY PLACE WHERE THE MAYOR MODIFIED THAT LINE.
NOT EVEN THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WALK PLACES COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS THE ENTIRE MIDTOWN AREA.
IT WAS A COMPROMISE TO DRAW THE LINE WHERE IT WAS BASED ON POLITICS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT 100%, BUT I THINK THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO IN GRANTING THESE SORT OF VARIANCES WHERE WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
SO I'M GONNA BE IN FAVOR OF, OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST, BUT I RESPECT YOUR OPINION OF THIS.
HOWEVER, WE'RE GONNA KEEP POLITICS OUTTA THIS.
UM, WELL, WE MAY CONSIDER ARBITRARY.
UM, I, I STILL DON'T KNOW I'M GONNA VOTE YET, BUT RELATIVE TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, I, I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY.
I I CAN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH SEVERAL OF THESE, WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE BEDROOM, TYPICALLY THAT MIGHT BE TWO PERSONS, UM, THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY BE TWO CARS.
UM, AND WHERE'S THAT LOAD GOING, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, BUT RELATIVE TO A DEVELOPMENT, TO BILL'S POINT, UM, INITIALLY I SAID, WHAT, WHAT'S FIVE PARKING SPACE? WELL, TECHNICALLY THERE'S ALREADY A 10% REDUCTION FROM THE BICYCLE RACKS.
SO THERE'S THAT PLUS AN ADDITIONAL FIVE PARKING SPACE.
UM, THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR, UH, TODAY.
UM, I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE'S, WHERE ARE THE UBER DRIVERS AND, UH, AMAZON AND EVERYONE ELSE LOADING AND UNLOADING.
I DO NOT KNOW HOW I'M GONNA VOTE YET.
UM, BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.
AND RELATIVE TO LOCATION, THIS IS PROBABLY A LOCATION THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE A, A VARIANCE LIKE THIS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HEINZ.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY GARZA FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.
SHOULD THE VOTE GO AGAINST US AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHAT WOULD BE THE REQUIREMENT OF LEGAL TO BASICALLY FLIP THIS AND APPROVE IT? YOU HAVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, THE STANDARDS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT HAVE TO BE FOUND TO BE MET.
AND YOU CAN SEE STAFF THINKS THAT THE PRIMARY ONE THAT HAS NOT BEEN MET AS LACK OF HARDSHIP AND THAT IT IS SELF-IMPOSED BECAUSE THIS IS A GREEN SITE.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT DEALING WITH, WITH DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS OTHER THAN THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE IT IS.
UM, ALSO AS THE CHAIR HAS STATED, REGULATIONS ARE ABOUT DRAWING LINES, MAKING NUMBERS, PICKING WHERE THAT IS AND, AND THE LEGISLATIVE BODY HAS PLACED THEM WHERE THEY ARE.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE IF THERE IS A, IF THERE IS A SECOND MOTION THAT YOU FIND, UM, YOU, YOU PUT SOMETHING ON THE RECORD AS TO THE HARDSHIP, UM, STANDARD.
UM, OUR CLARIFICATION, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THE OFF STREET PARKING THAT IS AVAILABLE DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS, IS IT PUBLIC? THE ORDINANCE HAS A FORMULA FOR SPECIFIC USES THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE
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A PERCENTAGE OR A RATIO OF PARKING TOWARDS BEDROOMS, SQUARE FEET, UM, AND THE OFF STREET PARKING DOESN'T COUNT FOR THAT.IT'S A CONSIDERATION FOR GRANTING A VARIANCE.
WE'LL GO OUT AND LOOK AT WHAT'S THERE AND, YOU KNOW, THE SPACE OF THE STREET AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT IT'S, IT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS THE, THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT.
JUST TO CLARIFY, COMMISSIONER, YOU MEANT ON STREET PARKING DOESN'T COUNT.
CAN WE GET ONE MORE CLARIFICATION? WHAT, WHAT DID THEY GIVE US IN THE WALK OF PLACES THAT COULD GO AWAY? WE DENY THE VARIANCE.
THEY COULD GO BACK AND ADD MORE CURB CUTS.
THEY COULD REDUCE THE SIDEWALK.
THEY COULD, THEY COULD DO ANY NUMBER OF THINGS THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY MUCH WORSE IN, IN MY OPINION, MAY NOT BE EVERYONE'S OPINION, BUT CAN WE GET CLARITY WHAT IT IS THAT THOSE THINGS ARE? THEY REDUCE THE CURB CUTS FROM THREE TO ONE.
THOSE THINGS ARE ALL COMPELLING TO ME IN ORDER TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT WHY I WOULD GRANT THAT APPROVAL.
THE HARDSHIP IS THAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE SPENT MORE MONEY IN GRANTING THE BUFFER AND THE SIDEWALKS AND REDUCING THE CURB CUTS.
THAT THAT IS AN EXPENSE FOR THEM.
THEY'VE INCREASED THEIR EXPENDITURE IN ORDER TO, FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT.
THE SIDEWALK IS THE PUBLIC BENEFIT.
FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS CAN'T THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING ELSE? I'LL JUST SAY FOR THE RECORD, I, I HEAR YOU COMMISSIONER BALDWIN.
I, I, WE DO WANT THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT AND THIS LOOKS LIKE A GREAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND HOUSTON'S KIND OF POISED IN THIS, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THIS IS A GOOD THING TO DO FOR DEVELOPMENT AND DENSITY, AND YET WE'VE GOT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY THREATENED BY HAVING CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
AND PEOPLE IN HOUSTON BELIEVE THAT THAT LAND IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE IS THEIRS, AND THEY CAN PUT ROCKS AND CONES, WHICH THEY CAN'T, BUT THEY DO.
AND SO WE, WE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET TO, TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
WE NEED TO DO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS ISSUE.
BUT BECAUSE IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT IS SUCH A HARD ISSUE.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, I THINK FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A HARDSHIP.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE, UH, THAT IS NOT SOLELY ECONOMIC.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A REASON TO GRANT THE VARIANCE JUST TO, WE HAVE TO GO BY THE, THE BOOK, BY THE RULES ON THIS.
AND SO I AM REALLY TORN ON THIS ONE.
I COULD GO EITHER WAY, BUT I, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE, THE MOTION TO DENY.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY GARZA, A SEC, AND SECOND BY HACH.
ALL IN FAVOR FOR STAFF? RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL BY SHOW OF HANDS.
COMMISSIONER MAREZ AND COMMISSIONER BALDWIN.
[V. Excuse the Absence of Commissioners Linda Porras Pirtle and Randall L. Jones ]
ROMAN NUMERAL FIVE.EXCUSE THE ABSENCE OF LINDA POROUS PERLE.
MAY I, MR. GARZA? THANK YOU MR. GARZA.
I HA I HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, WE'RE GOOD.
SO MADAM TWO, I HAVE ONE, ONE QUESTION.
I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER TO HERE, MR. GARZA ASKED THIS QUESTION TO LEGAL.
IF WE HAD GONE AGAINST DENYING THIS LAST ITEM, WHAT WOULD BE THE POSITION IF WE HAD ALL VOTED AGAINST OR MAJORITY IF YOU HAD ALL VOTED AGAINST THE MOTION THAT WAS PLACED IN, ON THE TABLE OR ON THE FLOOR AND SECONDED? UM, WE WOULD'VE WAITED FOR A SECOND MOTION OSTENSIBLY, I'M ASSUMING WE WOULD'VE HAD A MOTION IN FAVOR OF THE VARIANCE WITH MAYBE A SECOND, AND THEN WE WOULD SEE HOW THAT WOULD TURN OUT.
WE WOULD JUST ASK FOR THE FINDINGS THAT YOU MAKE THOSE ON THE RECORD TO SUPPORT GOING AGAINST THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, PARTICULARLY ON THE FINDINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE NO ONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO, UH, HEARING NONE.
I'M ADJOURNING THE MEETING OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING COMMISSION.