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AFTERNOON.[Call to Order]
UH, IT IS, IT IS 2 34 ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16TH, 2023.THIS IS A MEETING OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M COMMISSION CHAIR MARTY STEIN, AND I'M GONNA VERIFY OUR QUORUM BY CALLING THE ROLE THE CHAIR IS PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER JONES WILL BE ABSENT.
COMMISSIONER KLIK IS PRESENT VIRTUALLY, BUT I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR HIM.
COMMISSIONER, IS THAT COMMISSIONER COLEY? I THINK SO.
WE CAN CALL UP AGAINST THE END.
PRESENT VIRTUALLY IS PRESENT VIRTUALLY.
UM, COMMISSIONER POROUS PERLE IS NOT PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER ROBBINS HERE IS PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER ROSENBERG WILL BE ABSENT.
COMMISSIONER SIGLER IS PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER TAHIR IS NOT PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER, UM, VICTOR PRESENT IS PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER KANE PRESENT VIRTUALLY IS PRESENT VIRTUALLY.
COMMISSIONER DALTON IS NOT PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER MANDUKA PRESENT IS PRESENT.
AND DIRECTOR MARGARET WALLACE BROWN PRESENT IS PRESENT.
I'M, I CANNOT, I THINK HE'S VIRTUAL, BUT I CAN'T COUNT HIM FOR QUORUM UNLESS HE'S AUDIBLE, UNTIL HEARSAY.
UM, SO 15 MEMBERS HAVE RESPONDED TO ROLL CALL.
WE HAVE A QUORUM, UH, TO EVERYONE ELSE JOINING US TODAY.
UH, IF YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON A SPECIFIC ITEM, UM, I KNOW I HAVE A LOT OF YOU SIGNED UP IN ADVANCE, BUT IF YOU'RE IN THE ROOM, PLEASE DO FILL OUT ONE OF THESE LITTLE FORMS. UM, WE'LL TAKE YOU UP SOONER IF YOU'RE IN THE ROOM THAN IF YOU'RE VIRTUAL, UH, IN SOME CASES, UM, IF YOU ARE CONNECTED BY PHONE OR COMPUTER, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU MUTE YOUR DEVICE UNTIL YOU'RE CALLED ON TO SPEAK.
AND ALSO IT HELPS OUR VIDEO QUALITY.
IF YOU KEEP YOUR CAMERA TURNED OFF UNTIL YOU'RE CALLED ON, UNLESS YOU'RE A COMMISSIONER, THEN YOU NEED TO KEEP IT ON.
I THINK WE, UH, ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM THAT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN TODAY, AND IT IS ITEM 1 53, SANDRA DUPLEXES.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN.
Y'ALL ARE GETTING MUTED ON YOUR END.
YOU'VE BEEN, YOU'VE BEEN MUTED.
CAN YOU FIX THAT? HOW ABOUT NOW? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? SOMEBODY HAD THEIR YES, WE CAN NOW.
IS THAT YOU? I GUESS THAT IS NOT OKAY.
THAT'S WHY I, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.
SO WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ITEMS UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, SECTION C AND VARIANCES.
UM, UNDER SECTION C, ITEM 1 44 CHRISTIAN HEIGHTS HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN AND ITEMS 1 51 MC WARD 1 52, RED HAW HEIGHTS AND 1 53 SANDRA DUPLEXES HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN, UM, AND UNDER VARIANCES, ITEM 1 62 BRICK YARD DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
[Director’s Report]
WE WILL GO TO THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, DIRECTOR MARGARET WALLACE BROWN.UH, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS MARGARET WALLACE BROWN.
I'M SECRETARY OF THIS COMMISSION AND DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
UM, I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS REGARDING THE UPCOMING CHANGES TO CHAPTER 42.
THE MAP INDICATING THE 1400 FRONT DRIVEWAY LAYER WILL
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BE, APO WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 20TH, IN ADVANCE OF THE 27TH OF NOVEMBER, WHICH IS THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE.UM, THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE ON HOUSTON MAP VIEWER UNDER THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
IF THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO YOU, CALL OUR OFFICES AND WE WILL, WE WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO GET THERE.
UM, THE NEW LIVABLE PLACES PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 42 BECOME EFFECTIVE IN THEIR WHOLE ON NOVEMBER 27TH.
YOU CAN SEE OUR WEBSITE AT LET'S TALK HOUSTON FOR SPECIFICS AND APPLICANTS CAN EMAIL LIVABLE PLACES.
THAT'S ALL ONE WORD@HOUSTONTX.GOV FOR MORE INFORMATION.
THAT IS THE EXTENT OF MY, UM, COMMENTS.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU MAY, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAN BE REACHED AT (832) 393-6600.
OR YOU CAN CALL THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PLANNER OF THE DAY AT 8 3 2 3 9 3 6 6 2 4.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? UH, IF
[Consideration of the November 2, 2023 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes ]
NOT, WE'LL GO TO CONSIDERATION OF THE NOVEMBER 2ND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES, WHICH WERE IN YOUR PACKET.WE DO HAVE ONE CORRECTION TO MAKE.
UH, THE MINUTES, UM, SHOWED COMMISSIONER JONES AS BEING ABSENT AND HE WAS IN FACT PRESENT.
UM, AND HIS MOTIONS AND, UH, VOTES ARE ALL REFLECTED CORRECTLY IN THE, IN THE MINUTES.
IT WAS JUST THE TABLE OF PRESENT, ABSENT THAT WAS INCORRECT.
SO WITH THAT CORRECTION, ABSENT, THAT WAS INCORRECT.
WITH THAT CORRECTION, IF THERE ARE NO OTHERS, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? MOTION CLARK ALLMAN ALLMAN.
[Platting Activities a & b]
GO TO PLATTING ACTIVITY, UH, ROMAN NUMERAL ONE.UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS FOR WHICH WE HAVE SPEAKERS.
WE'LL TAKE THOSE UP, UH, IN A MOMENT.
UM, COMMISSIONER SICKLER, ANY ITEMS WE NEED TO TAKE SEPARATELY FOR COMMISSIONERS? UM, YES.
ANY OTHER ITEMS? OKAY, WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, THE ITEMS I HAVE WITH SPEAKERS ARE ITEM 43, SONOVA SECTION TWO AND ITEM 82 AND 83 GROVES, NORTH RESERVE SECTIONS TWO AND THREE.
SO, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, TAKE UP THOSE ITEMS, NOT THE ONES WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON, BUT WE'LL VOTE ON ALL THE ITEMS IN SECTIONS A AND B.
SAVE AND ACCEPT ITEMS 10, 25, 26, 43, 82, AND 83.
OH, MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE, WE HAVE MORE TO ADD TO THE SA.
MORE TO ADD TO WHAT, UH, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ALSO TAKE OUT, UM, TAKE OUT OF ORDER ITEMS, OTHER ITEMS. OKAY.
1 46 EAST LAKE HOUSTON RESERVES.
UH, EAST LAKE HOUSTON PARKWAY, RESERVES 68.
1 46 IS UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.
YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS MORE COMPLICATED THAN USUAL, FOLKS.
THEN WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO VOTE ON, UH, A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ALL ITEMS IN SECTIONS A AND B.
SAVE AND ACCEPT FOR ITEM 43 68, 82, 83 AND 96.
IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION? VICTOR? VICTOR? IS THERE A SECOND? GARZA GARZA.
UM, AND NOW WE WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ITEM 10 25 AND 26.
IS THERE A MOTION? VIRA BLAND.
IS THERE A SECOND? VICTOR? VICTOR.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES NOTING THAT COMMISSIONER SIGLER ABSTAINED ON THOSE ITEMS. AND NOW WE WILL TAKE UP THE ITEMS THAT WERE SEPARATED FOR SPEAKERS.
AND MS. MAAR, WILL YOU MAKE A PRESENTATION ON
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THIS? YES.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS DIPTI MATH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 43 IS SINOA, SECTION TWO.
AND THERE ARE TWO OTHER RELATED ITEMS, OR, OR SORRY, THREE OTHER RELATED ITEMS DOWN ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S OUT OF A GENERAL PLAN AND, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
ON THE FIRST ONE, SONOVA SECTION TWO IS APPROVED.
IT MEETS ALL, UM, CHAPTER 42 REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S NOT A REPL, IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY OTHER DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT IT VIOLATES.
'CAUSE IT IS NOT A REPL, IT IS OUT OF ACREAGE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
UH, WHERE, UM, JAMES, IF YOU GO TO A SLIDE THAT SHOWS ALL THE PROJECTS, THAT WOULD HELP.
SO THESE ARE ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY.
UM, AND WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED WHICH ONES ARE SHALL APPROVE, AND WHICH THERE'S ONE APPLICATION THAT HAS A VARIANCE DOWN THE AGENDA, BUT YOU HAVE SPEAKERS SIGNED TO, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK OUR RECOMMENDATION ON SECTION, UM, ITEM NUMBER 43 SONOVA, SECTION TWO AS OF NOW IS RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE.
AND, UM, MS. MACHO, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY FOR THE LISTENING AND ATTENDING AUDIENCE, A SHALL APPROVE ITEM MEANS THAT THE PLAT APPLICATION HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY OUR CITY STAFF.
LEGAL STAFF MEETS ALL THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE APPLICABLE AT THIS TIME.
UM, AND THEREFORE UNDER BOTH CITY CODE AND STATE LAW, THE COMMISSION IS LEGALLY BOUND TO APPROVE IT.
THERE WILL BE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT, PERHAPS IN THE PERMITTING STAGE GOING FORWARD, BUT AT THIS STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT, THE PLAT IS A SHALL APPROVE.
AND THAT IS A CONDITION UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS WHAT 43 IS, CORRECT? YES.
AND JUST TO ADD TO IT, UH, IT WAS ON THE SLIDE, FEW SECONDS BACK, THAT IS THE SECTION TWO PLOT.
SECTION TWO PLAS IS PROPOSING SINGLE FAMILY SUB.
IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION OUT OF ACREAGE TRACKS.
THEY'RE NOT REPLANTING ANY PREVIOUS TRACKS INTO OR PREVIOUS RESTRICTED LOTS INTO ANYTHING.
THEY'RE TRAP RE, THEY'RE PLATTING, UH, PLAIN ACREAGE TO LOTS.
AND WHEN IT MEETS ALL CHAPTER 42 REQUIREMENTS AND STAFF IS NOT REQUIRING ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL REQUIRE, UM, INFORMATION.
UH, AND APPLICANT PROVIDED ALL THE INFORMATION.
OUR RECOMMENDATION IS ALWAYS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MAAR BEFORE I CALL THE SPEAKERS? OKAY, THE FIRST SPEAKER THEN IS EDDIE LENTZ.
I WAS THINKING YOU WERE EDWARD LANCE.
UH, MADAM, UH, IN, IN, IN KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS, I DON'T THINK THAT OUR ISSUES APPLY TO, UH, SECTION TWO.
UH, THEY DO APPLY WITH, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
UH, ONE, UH, THE RESERVE LAKE HOUSTON AND FIVE, UM, THAT I BELIEVE IS DEFERRED.
SO I GUESS AS FAR AS WE'RE GONNA BE, IT WOULD JUST BE ONE IN, UH, THE RESERVE.
SO YOU WANT, SO YEAH, WE TWO BEING NOT BEING A REPL, UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS.
UM, I, I THINK I DO HAVE TO CALL ALL THE SPEAKERS WHO SIGNED IN ADVANCE, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE LIST REAL FAST.
PEOPLE WHO HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN PERSON, DIANA MAXWELL IS NOT PRESENT.
SHARON WORKMAN, ARE YOU, ARE YOU HERE? YES.
YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE BECAUSE THIS IS UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, I AM A, I, I AM A RESIDENT OF LAKE SHADOWS OF THE, UM, 20 YEAR RESIDENT.
AND, UM, THERE'S A SECTION IN THE NEW PLANNING THAT THEY'VE PUT UP THAT HAS A BLIND, YOU CAN'T TELL FROM HERE BECAUSE IT'S GOT A LOT OF STRAIGHT LINES, BUT WE HAVE A BLIND S-CURVE IN THAT LOCATION.
AND I'VE, I'VE PUT IT IN MY MINUTES AND I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YESTERDAY I COUNTED 38 CARS BEHIND THE SCHOOL BUS, RIGHT IN THAT AREA.
SHORTLY AFTER THAT, A THREE CAR PILE UP WITH A HEAD ON COLLISION.
IN THAT LOCATION, WE HAVE FLOODING AND WE HAVE
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NUMEROUS OVER AND OVER PEOPLE.I DO NOT KNOW WHY, BUT THEY GO OFF THE ROAD RIGHT IN THAT AREA AND HIT THE TELEPHONE POLE.
YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED, SO I'D JUST LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT.
UM, NOW WHAT, THOSE WERE THE SPEAKERS WHO HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN PERSON.
UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A CALL FOR ANYONE WHO WAS WITH, WHO IS LISTENING VIRTUALLY.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 43? MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER TAHIR.
COMMISSIONER TAHIR IS HERE VIRTUALLY.
AND, OH, PO PERLE IS HERE ALSO.
DID YOU CHANGE YOUR SEAT? YES.
IS THERE ANYONE VIRTUALLY WHO'S LISTENING, COMPUTER OR PHONE, WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 43? OKAY, IF NOT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR STAFF APPROVAL ON ITEM 43.
UM, OKAY, THAT WILL TAKE US TO 68.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM 68 IS CURTIS BUSINESS PARK, LLC.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE CITY ALONG MAXIE AND EAGLE STREETS.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES FOUR LOTS WITH FRONT LOADING ACCESS.
STAFF FINDS THIS APPLICATION DOES NOT MEET THE CURRENT DENSITY REQUIREMENT OF 27 UNITS PER ACRE.
IT RECOMMENDS THE PLAT BE DISAPPROVED.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST IN WRITING FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY GRANT THIS REQUEST AS ALLOWED PER STATE LAW.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
UM, SO WE HAVE, UM, A SPEAKER ON 68.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE, IS HE? YES, MA'AM.
DOES HE VIRTUALLY, OH, GO AHEAD.
STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
SO WE WERE REQUESTING A 30 DAY EXTENSION IN ORDER TO GIVE, UM, US TIME TO, UH, PRESENT THE OPTIONS TO OUR CLIENT TO CHANGE THE PLA CONFIGURATION FROM FOUR FRONT LOADING LOTS TO, UH, EITHER FLAG LOTS OR SHARED DRIVEWAY, AND TO ALLOW THE, UH, NEW, UM, DENSITY REQUIREMENTS TO TAKE PLACE.
SO WE WILL BE UNDER THE 35, UM, UH, DENSITY, UH, UNIT PER ACRE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REMARKS? YES, MA'AM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? COMMISSIONER GARZA? UM, I BELIEVE PER LEGAL, THAT THAT REQUEST HAS TO BE TURNED IN ON PAPER? YES.
HAS THAT BEEN DONE? CORRECT? YES.
WE HAVE RECEIVED IT IN WRITING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 68 TIS BUSINESS PARK? UM, IF NOT, UM, DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A MOTION OF SOME KIND EITHER FOR A 30 DAY OR STAFF APPROVAL? STAFF RECOMMENDATION MOTION FOR 30 DAY EXTENSION GARZA MOTION FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION.
IS THERE A SECOND? HEES HINES? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THERE IS A 30 DAY EXTENSION FOR ITEM 68.
THEN WE GO TO ITEMS 82 AND 83.
MEMBERS OF PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM NUMBER 82 AND 83 ARE GROSS NORTH RESERVE SECTION TWO AND SECTION THREE.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DEFER AND, UH, WE'VE RECEIVED THE REVISED DRAWINGS WITH THE RIGHT OF A WIDENING THAT IS NEEDED.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE.
THE APPLICANT DOES NOT RESPOND TO SPEAK AGAIN.
OKAY, SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEM 82 IS APPROVED.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEM 83 IS APPROVED.
AND, UM, IS THERE ANYONE, UH, MR. GRISSOM DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK? NO DEED.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 82 OR 83? IF NOT, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ITEMS 82 AND 83? MOTION? CLARK.
AND THEN ON ITEM, UH, 96, UH, RA VILLA IS A CORRIDOR.
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THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE CITY ALONG CORRIDOR.THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 12 LOTS ALONG A SHARED DRIVEWAY.
STAFF FINDS THAT THIS APPLICATION DOES NOT MEET THE CURRENT DENSITY REQUIREMENT OF 27 UNITS PER ACRE.
IT RECOMMENDS THE PLAT BE DISAPPROVED.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REQUEST IN WRITING FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION.
THE PLAN COMMISSION MAY GRANT THIS REQUEST AS ALLOWED BY STATE LAW.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM, IS THE APPLICANT WISHING TO SPEAK? NO.
SO, UH, PER STAFF WE HAVE A REQUEST IN WRITING FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION FOR ITEM 96.
IS THERE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER GARZA? YES.
MR. BUTLER, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? WE'RE WAITING A 30 DAY EXTENS EXTENSION.
FOR WHAT? IT'S A SIMILAR REQUEST AS THE ONE, TWO ITEMS AGO.
IT JUST, THE REQUEST IS TO EXTEND, UH, THE PERIOD FOR 30 DAYS TO ALLOW FOR THE FUTURE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS TO KICK IN.
IT'LL MEET THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS AT THAT POINT.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? YEAH, JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT JEFF SAID.
UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? MAY.
UM, YEAH, JUST REITERATE WHAT JEFF SAID.
WE ARE CURRENTLY UN UH, PROPOSING 12 UNITS UNDER THE CURRENT, UH, DENSITY REQUIREMENTS OF 27.
WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE 30 DAY EXTENSION TO BE REVIEWED ON THE, UH, NEW AMENDMENTS OF THE 35 DENSITY UNITS THAT ARE ALLOWED.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? OKAY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 96? UM, OKAY.
WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION MOTION ALLMAN FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION.
I THINK THAT CONCLUDES EVERYTHING IN A AND B.
UM, SO I BELIEVE THAT THE 30 DAY EXTENSION PROVISION HAS BEEN IN STATE LAW FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD TWO ON ONE AGENDA THAT I CAN REMEMBER.
WE HAVE ONE LIKE MAYBE EVERY YEAR.
WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T KNOW THIS HAPPENED.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, FOR THE RECORD, UM, I'M GONNA NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER KLIK IS PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER KLIK, CAN YOU JUST RESPOND HERE OR WA HERE? UH, MADAM CHAIR, I JOINED IN THE BEGINNING AROUND 1 29, RIGHT? OR 2 29.
AND FOR, FOR QUORUM PURPOSES AND VOTING PURPOSES, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU.
SO PLEASE NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER KLI IS IN THE MEETING.
[c. Replats requiring Public Hearings with Notification (Arum Lee, John Cedillo, Dorianne Powe-Phlegm, Aracely Rodriguez, and Devin Crittle)]
WE GO TO SECTION C, PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEM 1 38, EXCUSE ME.THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE HOUSTON CITY LIMIT, EAST OF SCOTT STREET AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ALICE STREET AND ST.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REPLANT IS TO CREATE THREE LOTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL HAS DETERMINED THAT THIS REQUEST DOES NOT VIOLATE D RESTRICTIONS.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THE PLAT STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 38 ALICE LANDING IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING OR HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 38, ALICE LANDING? IF NOT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION S SIGLER SECOND FOR PERLE.
ITEM 1 39, ITEM 1 39 AUN IN PALMS REPLANT NUMBER ONE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE HOUSTON CITY LIMIT SOUTH OF CAVALCADE STREET AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF AMUNSON STREET.
AND TERRY, THE PURPOSE OF THE REPLAY IS TO CREATE THREE LOTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL HAS DETERMINED THAT THIS REQUEST DOES NOT VIOLATE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED, REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THE PLAT STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
UH, AMUNDSON PALMS RELA NUMBER ONE IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING OR WITH
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US WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 39? HEARING NO RESPONSE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION CLARK.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND COLVARD.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM ONE 40.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS JOHN PHILLIPS OF YOU.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS AN OVER 37,000 SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS NORTH OF LEY BOULEVARD AND EAST OF BLADELOCK ROAD.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RE PLAT IS TO CREATE FOUR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ALONG A SHARED DRIVEWAY.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTS FOR THIS ITEM.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
THE PLAT WAS DEFERRED LAST COMMISSION DUE TO THE VIOLATION OF MINIMUM LOT SIZE SET IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS IN THE DEFERRAL.
THE APPLICANT HAS REDUCED THE LOT COUNTS FROM 15 TO FOUR.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THE CURRENT PLAT LAYOUT WITH FOUR LOTS WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS FILED SEPARATELY.
WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION REGARDING POTENTIAL VIOLATION OF DEED RESTRICTIONS AND HAVE AS STATED WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO, TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE A PLAT SUBJECT TO CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM ONE 40 BAR LANDING IS CONTINUED.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? NOBODY IN THE CHAT.
UM, WITH THAT THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLA SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS IS THEIR DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? ROGER MODEST.
ITEM 1 41 IS BENDER'S LANDING ESTATES SECTION SEVEN PARTIAL REPL NUMBER ONE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS A THREE AND A HALF ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY, ETJ, SOUTH OF RAYFORD ROAD AND WEST OF TOWNSEND BOULEVARD.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RE PLAT IS TO CREATE ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
LAST COMMISSION FOR FURTHER LEGAL REVIEW.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT A 10 FOOT BUILDING LINE IS REQUIRED ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY AND AN OFFICIAL APPROVAL FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE FOR VENDORS LANDING IS REQUIRED.
PRIOR TO FINAL APPROVAL, WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS INCLUDING A PROVISION OF A 10 FOOT DE RESTRICTED BILLING LINE ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY AND AN OFFICIAL APPROVAL FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE PROVIDED WITH THE FINAL PLAT.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 41 VENDORS LANDING ESTATES IS CONTINUED.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED IN ADVANCE TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 41? HEARING NO RESPONSE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED.
ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION GARZA GARZA, VICTOR, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM 1 42 IS BLUE BONNET ESTATES.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST INTERSECTION OF MCKEE AND LEE STREETS IN HOUSTON.
THE REASON FOR REPLY IS TO CREATE FOUR SINGLE FAMILY FRONT LOADING LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
STAFF HAS NOW RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS PLAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CBC 1 0 1 FORUM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 42 BLUE BONNET ESTATES IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING OR HEAR? WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 42? IF NOT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS LISTED.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION KLE.
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ITEM 1 43.ITEM 1 43 IS BLUE BONNET VILLAS.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST INTERSECTION OF TERRY AND BROOK STREET AND HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS.
THE REASON FOR RELAID IS TO CREATE THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO BEARING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS PLAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CBC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.
AT THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 43 BLUE BONNET VILLAS IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 43? IF, UH, NO ONE WISHES TO SPEAK, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? ALL ALLMAN AYE.
UH, ITEM 1 44 CHRISTIAN HEIGHTS HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
ITEM 1 45 DREYFUS VILLAS, ITEM 1 45 DREYFUS VILLAS.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF CONLEY AND DREYFUS STREETS IN HOUSTON.
CORPORATE LIMITS THE REASON FOR REPLIES TO CREATE THREE LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS.
UM, ITEM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CBC 1 0 1 FORM.
CONDITIONS REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WOULD NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, PLEASE THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 45 DREYFUS VILLAS IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE CHAT.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD.
UM, SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR US.
MY LAST NAME IS F-R-E-E-B-O-R-N.
I AM, UM, A A A FAMILY MEMBER OF THE RESIDENT WHO'S ALSO RIGHT HERE, UM, THAT LIVES ON THE SAME BLOCK.
AND WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY HIGHLY TRAFFICKED INTERSECTION.
UM, IT'S NOT, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
THERE'S CHILDREN THAT WALK TO SCHOOL IN THIS ROUTE.
UM, THE VISIBILITY TO, UM, DREYFUS COMING UP CONLEY ROAD, WHICH IS WHERE, UM, MS. DAVIS, MY SISTER RESIDES, IS VERY LOW.
UM, AND THERE'S ALSO ONLY ONE STOP SIGN ON CONLEY ROAD, LIKE ON BOTH SIDES OF CONLEY ROAD.
SO IT'S A VERY, UM, NO DANGEROUS INTERSECTION FOR KIDS.
WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WOULD WORK WITH CARS PARKED AT THREE SEPARATE, UH, HOUSING UNITS ON THIS CORNER AND THE PEDESTRIANS BEING ABLE TO PASS.
UM, AND WITH THERE ONLY BEING ONE SET OF STOP SIGNS, WHICH PEOPLE OFTEN RUN, UM, RUN THE STOP SIGN ON THE, UH, OH, THE STOP SIGNS ARE ON EAST WEST.
UM, SO, SO THERE'S SOME SERIOUS SAFETY CONCERNS.
I WOULD WANT AT LEAST A FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN OR POSSIBLY A LIGHT AT THIS PLACE.
UM, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ADDING THREE UNITS HERE AND WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK? THERE IS NO ROOM.
THE, THE, THE STREET IS ALREADY HAS NO SIDEWALKS AND NO, UM, UH, DRAINAGE GUTTERS.
SO ALL THE FAMILIES ON THIS STREET HAVE TO WALK IN THE STREET.
UM, SO WITH CARS PARKED FROM THESE THREE UNITS, HOW ARE PEOPLE GONNA, GONNA TRANSVERSE THIS INTERSECTION? SO THOSE ARE THE, THE PRIMARY CONCERNS THAT, THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO WE WOULD REQUEST THIS BE DENIED AND MY SISTER CAN SAY WHATEVER ELSE SHE HAS SAY.
BUT YEAH, UM, IT'S, IT'S, RIGHT NOW IT'S A RISK OF, OF HIM RUN THAT ALL TIME.
COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? YES, THIS WAS, YEAH, THIS WAS THE VITA DAVIS I'M A RESIDENT OF ON THIS 7,000 BLOCK OF, UM, OF CONLEY.
AND, UM, YEAH, SO I JUST HAD SURGERY, SO THAT'S WHY SHE WAS SPEAKING FOR ME.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I'M VERY CONCERNED.
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WALK HOME FROM THE BUS AND IT IS VERY, UM, SINCE IT'S A THOROUGH, IT'S, IT CROSSES FROM SCOTT, UM, BASICALLY CROSSES FROM SCOTT TO CULLEN.UM, LOW VISIBILITY AT NIGHT, TWO-WAY STOP SIGN INSTEAD OF FOUR-WAY.
SO IT'S ALREADY DANGEROUS AS IT IS.
PEOPLE HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUMP OVER THE DITCHES WHEN, WHEN CARS FLY DOWN THE ROAD.
WE DID REQUEST SPEED BUMPS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE SPEED BUMPS GOT, UM, APPROVED OR NOT.
SO YEAH, I WOULD JUST REALLY WANT LIKE A STUDY DONE OVER THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VIABLE, UM, IN THE AREA THAT IT'S GO, UM, THAT IS GOING IN.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE OR LISTENING WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 45 DREYFUS VS.
IF NOT, UM, JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS, THE, UM, THE, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES ARE REALLY NOT THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION AT THIS POINT.
THOSE ARE, UH, ISSUES THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY PUBLIC WORKS GOING FORWARD IN A PERMITTING STAGE.
AND YOU MIGHT, UH, WANNA CONTACT PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT MODIFYING THE STOP SIGNAGE OR OTHER THINGS, BUT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE IS A VISIBILITY TRIANGLE THAT IS REQUIRED IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE CAN DO, SO THAT THERE WILL BE VISIBILITY IN THE TURNING, UH, FROM ONE ONE STREET TO THE OTHER.
UM, OTHERWISE THIS ITEM MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 42, WHICH IS OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UM, WE CA WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DENY IT, UM, BECAUSE IT DOES MEET ALL THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS, BUT THERE WILL BE FURTHER REVIEWS ON IT DOWN THE ROAD IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
SO WITH, WITH ALL THAT IN MIND, I DID WANNA SHARE THAT THERE IS A SCHOOL SIDEWALK PROGRAM THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS THAT CAN CONSTRUCT SIDEWALKS FOR KIDS THAT NEED TO WALK TO SCHOOL UP TO FOUR BLOCKS LEADING TO AN EXISTING SCHOOL.
UM, NOT INCLUDING SIDEWALKS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SCHOOL.
SO YOU MIGHT, UM, IF THIS IS, IT SOUNDS LIKE A CONCERN WITH SCHOOL CHILDREN WALKING TO SCHOOL, UM, LOOK INTO THIS.
IT'S ON THE HOUSTON PUBLIC WORKS WEBSITE, UM, TYPE IN SCHOOL SIDEWALK PROGRAM.
AND THAT SHOULD GET YOU THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.
WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR THAT.
WE'RE LIKE 15 BLOCKS FROM THE BUS STOP TO SCHOOL AND THERE'S OKAY.
AND, AND THE OTHER SCHOOL IS A MILE AWAY, BUT ALSO THE PARKING, HOW MUCH PARKING IS ALLOCATED FOR, I'M SORRY.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO HAVE YOU R WRAP UP BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SPEAKERS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY AND WE'VE GOTTA STAY TO OUR TIME LIMITS.
UM, I WILL ASK IF YOU CAN, UM, GET YOUR INFORMATION TO, UH, MS. FLM, THE STAFF PERSON.
SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH A REPRESENTATIVE AT PUBLIC WORKS WHO COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES WITH YOU DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, SO IF YOU CAN, UM, ARE YOU ON A COMPUTER? YES, MA'AM.
IF YOU CAN PUT YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION IN THE CHAT, WE WILL GET THAT TO OUR STAFF AND SHE'LL GET, REACH OUT AND GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU.
IF THE NO ONE ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 45 DREYFUS VILLAS.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION MOTION CLARK GARZA SECOND GARZA.
IT'S EAST LAKE HOUSTON PARKWAY AND RESERVES.
THE SITE IS LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF FOLEY ROAD AND LAKE HOUSTON PARKWAY AND HOUSTON'S EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION IN HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS.
THE REASON FOR RE PLAT IS TO CREATE THREE RESERVES AND A RIGHT OF WAY.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
STAFF HAS RECEIVED COMMENTS FOR THIS PLAT CONCERNING DEED RESTRICTION VIOLATIONS AND THE NOTIFICATION SIGN.
LEGAL HAS REVIEWED THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE DEED RESTRICTIONS THE APPLICANT IS MAINTAINING.
THE SIGN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CBC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
ADAM CHAIR PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 46 EAST LAKE HOUSTON PARKWAY AND RESERVES IS OPEN.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS EDWARD LENTZ.
UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD, UH, WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY, UH, SUBMITTED, UH,
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PRIOR TO, UH, THIS MEETING.IT INVOLVES OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS, UH, SECTION 5 3, 1 OF OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS.
UM, AGAIN, I'M A RESIDENT OF LAKE SHADOWS.
UH, THIS ITEM IS, UH, A PARTIAL REPL I UNDERSTAND OF RESERVE A SECTION THREE LAKE SHADOWS SUBDIVISION.
SO IT IS, UM, THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS DO APPLY TO IT.
UH, AND THIS SUBSEQUENT RELA, UM, AGAIN, SECTION 5 3, 1 OF OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS, UH, THE LAKE SHADOWS CIVIC LEAGUE, WHICH IS, UH, THE SUCCESSOR TO THE COMMITTEE AS REFERENCED IN OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS, UH, HAS THE RIGHT DUTY FUNCTIONS AND PURPOSE TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE ANY OF THE BUILDING PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS AND PLOT PLANS SUBMITTED TO IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THESE RESTRICTIONS.
UH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY HAVE NOT DONE SO, UH, THERE WAS, UH, I THINK SOMEONE FROM THE APPLICANT DID REACH OUT TO THE CIVIC LEAGUE'S ATTORNEY ON FRIDAY THIS PAST WEEK.
UH, BUT HERE WE ARE AND I, I I THINK OBVIOUSLY THAT'S BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE A DUTY TO REACH OUT AND GET PERMISSION OF THE LAKE SHADOW CIVIC LEAGUE, UH, PRIOR TO BEING HERE AT THE COMMISSION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE IT TO SOMEONE.
UH, ALSO I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
UM, THERE'S ADDITIONAL ISSUES IN OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS, WHICH I DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AND TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
UM, WHILE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, IT IS FOR, UH, TO BENEFIT RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
SO I THINK THERE IS SOME QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THIS IS UNRESTRICTED OR, OR WHAT THE USE IS GOING TO BE.
OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS DO SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT ANY USE OF THE RESERVES FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES GO AHEAD, NEED TO BE ALSO APPROVED BY THE LAKE SHADOW CIVIC LEAGUE.
AND THAT IS IN SECTION FOUR SEVEN A.
UM, SO I, LIKE I SAY, I'VE GOT THAT HERE AND, AND I, I JUST THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I ALSO UNDERSTAND PART OF THAT'S GONNA BE A RIGHT AWAY FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL RIGHT.
UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, SEVERAL INSTANCES IN HERE THAT, UH, THESE ARE OLD, THESE ARE AMBIGUOUS.
AND, AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE GIVEN TIME TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT.
ARE YOU ASKING FOR A DEFERRAL FOR THE ITEM? IS THAT I, I, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S WARRANTED IN THIS CASE.
BECAUSE I, I, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO WORK WITHIN THE EXISTING FRAMEWORK OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS TO, TO COVER THIS LAND NOW.
PRIOR TO COMING TO THIS COMMISSION, LET ME ASK OUR, UH, LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE, MS. WOODS, UM, MS. WOODS, ARE THESE ARE THE PARTS OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT MR. LENZ IS CITING.
ARE THOSE, ARE THOSE SECTIONS YOU'VE REVIEWED OR YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH? I HAVE REVIEWED THE SECTION REGARDING RESERVE A IN SECTION THREE THAT SAYS THAT IF THE AFOREMENTIONED RESERVE, A PORTION THEREOF ARE DEVELOPED FOR PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL USE, THE MINIMUM LOT FRONTAGE WILL BE 70 FEET.
THE MINIMUM AREA WILL BE 8,400 SQUARE FEET LOOKING AT THIS LANGUAGE.
AND THEN ALL THE PROVISIONS OF PARTS ONE AND TWO OF THESE COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS SHALL APPLY TO SAID RESIDENTIAL USE UNLESS THE COMMITTEE OTHERWISE APPROVES.
SO LOOKING AT THE PROVISIONS ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE FRONTAGE, THIS IS RE REFERRING TO PORTIONS OF LAND, IF IT'S REPLANTED FOR RESIDENTIAL, FOR RESIDENCES, AND THEN SECTIONS, PARTS ONE AND TWO ARE ALSO RESTRICTIONS THAT DEAL WITH THE RESIDENCES ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS RESERVE.
SO WHEN LOOKING AT THE TERM PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL USE, IT'S SAYING TO ME THAT IT'S FOR RESIDENCES AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS UNRESTRICTED RESERVE IS BEING REPLANTED TO.
SO BEING REPLANTED TO A WATER PLANT AND SOME, UH, THREE OTHER RESERVES.
IT, IT BASICALLY, IT SETS FORTH MULTIPLE RESERVE AREAS IN LAKE SHADOW SUBDIVISION, UH, RESERVES, B, C, AND D SECTION ONE RESERVES A AND B SECTION TWO, THOSE DON'T APPLY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT RESERVES A, B, C, AND D SECTION THREE.
AND IT SAYS THAT IF ANY OF THE OF FOUR SAID RESERVES OR PORTIONS THEREOF ARE DEVELOPED FOR PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL USE, THEN THE FOLLOWING APPLIES.
AND, AND THAT'S OF COURSE WHAT, UM, MS. WOODS JUST MENTIONED.
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RESERVE B OF SECTION THREE, WHICH IS NOT SUBJECT TO THIS ITEM, HAS ALREADY, IT, IT, IT IS RESIDENTIAL.AND I THINK THESE RESTRICTIONS ARE AMBIGUOUS.
UH, THEY DON'T GIVE US ENOUGH GUIDANCE HERE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE LEG SHADOW CIVIC LEAGUE NEEDS TO APPROVE THIS.
AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER ISSUE IN SECTION FIVE THAT I JUST BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S ATTENTION.
BUT WE HAVE AN AMBIGUITY HERE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, PENDING UPON AN INTER INTERPRETATION, I, I I, I THINK THERE'S AN ARGUMENT THAT, OKAY, THIS NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE LAKE SHADOW CIVIC LEAGUE.
UM, AND I WANNA JUST, HAVE YOU HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ON THIS AT THIS POINT? I, I SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT ON TUESDAY, KAITLYN KING WITH METTA.
UH, SHE DID INFORM ME THAT, UH, HER CLIENT HAD REACHED OUT TO THE CIVIC LEAGUE'S ATTORNEY JUST THIS LAST FRIDAY.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT EVEN A WEEK.
AND SO THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY TIME HERE FOR US TO DISCUSS THIS, UM, PRIVATELY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FRAMEWORK THAT'S BEEN FILED OF RECORD SINCE 1961.
SO I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN OVER FOUR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN 40 YEARS, 60 YEARS.
I, ANOTHER, UH, DEFERMENT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE A BIG DEAL.
SO THAT WE CAN STRAIGHTEN THIS OUT.
UM, WE HAVE 33 SPEAKERS SIGNED UP IN ADVANCE.
AND BECAUSE THIS IS AN OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM, I DO HAVE TO CALL THEM.
I KNOW YOU SAID SAID THAT PROBABLY MOST OF THEM AREN'T GONNA SPEAK, BUT LET ME GO THROUGH THE OTHER SPEAKERS REAL QUICK AND THEN WE WILL, WE'LL TALK TO, TO STAFF.
THE NEXT SPEAKER, I'M GONNA CALL THE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN PERSON.
UH, DIANA MAXWELL, ARE YOU PRESENT? NO.
UM, ERIC ERICA GARCIA NOT PRESENT.
SHARON WORKMAN, I KNOW YOU'RE HERE.
DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO.
SHE HAD SOME OF THAT INTERSECTION, TRIANGLE CONCERNS, I BELIEVE.
YEAH, I MAY HAVE, MAY HAVE GOTTEN INTO THE WRONG SPACE, BUT, UM, THE WA WASTEWATER, UM, LAKE SHADOWS HAD TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN ADD ON TO A WATER WASTEWATER SYSTEM COST US A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE, UH, WE HAD TO ADD ON A SMALL SUBDIVISION.
AND SO IT'S INTERRUPTED ALL OF OUR, UM, UM, FINANCES.
UM, SECOND OF ALL, THE ONE THAT I REALLY WANTED TO, TO DISCUSS ALSO WAS THE STREET FOR, UM, THISTLE, UM, VIOLET THISTLE OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S WHERE THE S-CURVE IS THAT WE FEEL LIKE MAYBE THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED.
WE HAVE LACK OF LIGHTING FOR THE SAFETY AND, UM, AND OF COURSE, LIKE WE SAID, THE DRAINAGE.
SO, UM, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT REALLY WA ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WASTEWATER THAT MUCH.
ANYHOW, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK FOR THE NEXT ITEM.
UM, I'M GOING TO, WE HAVE MOST OF THE SPEAKERS, THE OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE VIRTUAL.
I'M JUST GONNA READ THEIR NAMES.
IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK, SPEAK UP.
AARON BRUNING, LARRY MAXWELL, MICHAEL MARTIN, COY SLOAN, MATT HOLLAND, JOHN HENSHAW, DUSTIN GILLICK, KIM G UH, GKI, PATSY HOOVER, NANCY DI DITO.
BARRY, BENS NECKER, PAM WORKMAN.
STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
AND MY PART ON THIS MAINTENANCE FEE, THIS WASTEWATER TREATMENT, IS THAT IT IS COMING INTO OUR SECTION AND OVER THE YEARS WE'VE PAID OUR MAINTENANCE FEE DUES FOR OUR AMENITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WELL, MY CONCERN IS WHEN THEY BRING THIS, WHEN THEY TAKE OUR LAND, ARE THEY PAYING US TO TAKE CARE OF OUR AMENITIES AND OUR BOAT DOCKS, OUR, OUR, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT POOLS AND THINGS, SO THEY'RE TAKING PART OF OUR PROPERTY.
IS IT GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM OUR MAINTENANCE FEES, WHICH IS WHAT WE SURVIVE ON? RIGHT.
AND I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT, BUT WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN, CAN GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
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PASS.JUDITH WILLETT, CORY HOLBROOK.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK MR. FOWL? YES.
I'M ACTUALLY COUNSEL FOR LAKE CIVIC, LAKE SHADOW CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND ASKED ME TO BE HERE.
UM, I, I DON'T WANT TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME 'CAUSE MR. LYNCH WAS PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD ON WHAT HE WAS EXPLAINING TO THE BOARD IS THE ISSUES.
WE HAVE A SET OF RESTRICTIONS AND AREN'T GONNA BE WASHED AWAY IF YOU REPLANT THIS LAND.
UM, AND I DID SPEAK TO THE DEVELOPER.
UM, I TALKED TO SOMEONE FROM META AS KAITLYN LAST WEEK AND THEN YESTERDAY FOR THE FIRST TIME I DID ACTUALLY SPEAK TO SOMEONE FROM THE DEVELOPER.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO EXACTLY FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.
SO THIS IS VERY LAST SECOND, UM, UH, GOING ON AND TRYING TO LEARN WHAT'S GOING ON.
WHAT MS. L IS SAYING IS TRUE IS THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS THAT APPLY TO THIS RESERVE ONCE IT BECOMES DEVELOPED.
AND SO THE QUESTION IS, IS RES WHAT IS RESIDENTIAL USE, RIGHT? IS RESIDENTIAL USE THESE HOUSES? IS THIS TREATMENT BEING USED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE? DOES THAT APPLY TO THESE RESTRICTIONS? SO THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WORK OUT WITH.
UH, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER, UM, AND, AND THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER AND VICE VERSA AFTER SPEAKING TO THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVE.
SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS GET SOME DEFERMENT JUST SO WE CAN KIND OF ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
UM, THERE'S ANOTHER SET OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ANY WATER USED OVER THERE HAS TO BE PURCHASED FROM A CENTRAL, YOU KNOW, WATERWORKS DIVISION OPERATED BY UTILITY COMPANIES.
THERE'S THINGS WE JUST NEED TO GET CLEANED UP.
UM, I THINK BEFORE THE A VOTE SHOULD PASS ON THIS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? OKAY, THANK YOU.
UM, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SARAH HARVEY.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 46? I DIDN'T CALL.
WITH THAT I'M GONNA TURN TO THE COMMISSION.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CLARK, I HAVE, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM LEGAL, DOES THIS LAND FALL UNDER THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION RESTRICTIONS?
AND SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, THERE'S A WASTEWATER TREATMENT SITE.
WHAT ARE THESE OTHER SITES? THAT'S PROBABLY MS. FLM A QUESTION FOR YOU.
I WANNA UNDERSTAND THE SECTIONS 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT HAVE KIND OF CONFUSED US.
SO RESERVE A, UM, IS RESTRICTED TO LANDSCAPE AND OPEN SPACE AND, UM, INCIDENTAL UTILITIES.
RESERVE B IS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND RESERVE.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND B, SO A IS STAYING A LANDSCAPE OPEN? YES.
AND C IS STAYING THE WATER PLANT SITE? YES.
AND SO LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT PORTION OF LAND ARE THEY TAKING AWAY FROM THE EXISTING RESIDENTS? OH, THEY'RE NOT TAKING ANY LAND AWAY FROM THE, UM, THE RESIDENTS.
IT'S A, IT'S A NO NO, IT'S A REPLANT OF A UNRESTRICTED RESERVE THAT CAME OUT OF THE LAKE, UH, SHADOWS SECTION THREE PLAT AND THAT.
SO, UH, THE PORTION THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED, LIKE INSIDE THE, THE PLAT, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PORTION THAT'S COMING OUT OF THAT RESERVE AND THE REST IS ACREAGE.
AND SO THE QUESTION IS, AND LEGAL JUST ANSWERED IT, WE'VE ALWAYS USED THE LANGUAGE, WE'VE ALWAYS INTERPRETED THE LANGUAGE OF RESIDENTIAL USE AS HOUSES, NOT WATER, NOT WASTEWATER, IT'S BEEN HOUSES.
UM, IS, THAT'S A CORRECT STATEMENT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, MS. FLMA, IS THERE A, A PROBLEM IF IT WERE TO BE DEFERRED FOR A COUPLE WEEKS OR THIS,
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IT'S THE FIRST TIME ON AGENDA SO IT CAN BE DEFERRED.UM, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES.
I'M GONNA ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND IF YOU'D GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME.
I'M WITH META PLANNING AND DESIGN.
UM, WE'RE THE LAND PLANNERS ON THIS.
UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST KIND OF RESPOND? YEAH, YEAH.
SO YOU'VE HEARD EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.
YOU'VE HEARD THAT THEY WANNA MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER OR THE REP.
ARE YOU GUYS WILLING TO DEFER FOR TWO WEEKS TO TRY TO SET UP A MEETING TO CLARIFY ALL OF THIS WITH THEM? YEAH, IDEALLY WE WOULDN'T HAVE DEFERMENT, BUT IF THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE EVERYONE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, UM, WE, WE CAN TAKE THAT TIME TO MEET.
UM, I, I DO JUST KIND OF WANT IT TO BE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT TO OUR KNOWLEDGE WE'RE NOT VIOLATING THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, BUT IF IT KIND, IF IT MAKES EVERYONE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY GO THAT ROUTE.
UM, I'M A LITTLE WORRIED WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS IN THE TWO WEEKS BECAUSE WE'RE APPROACHING HOLIDAYS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE OUT OF TOWN NEXT WEEK.
UM, SO IT WOULD, IT MAY BE DIFFICULT TO GET THOSE MEETINGS SCHEDULED IN THAT SHORT TIMEFRAME.
WELL, I, I THINK IF I MADE THAT MOTION TO DEFER FOR TWO WEEKS OKAY.
THAT I WOULD ASK THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IF THEY'RE REALLY INTERESTED, THEY'D FIND A TIME IN THOSE TWO WEEKS TO MEET.
AND SO WHEN YOU CAME BACK HERE, WE WOULD NOT PENALIZE YOU FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO SET UP A MEETING AS LONG AS YOUR EFFORTS, YOU DID DUE DILIGENCE IN YOUR EFFORTS.
AND MADAM CHAIR, I BELIEVE IT'S, WE'RE IN A THREE WEEK CYCLE.
I THINK THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ISN'T FOR THREE WEEKS.
SO WE'RE, AND JUST FOR MR LENS FOR YOUR BENEFIT, WE ARE, BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS, THIS CAN ONLY BE DEFERRED ONE TIME.
SO IT WILL BE IMPERATIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH SIDES MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING ON DECEMBER 7TH TO, TO AT LEAST, YOU MAY NOT AGREE STILL, BUT TO WORK OUT ANY, AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT, THAT ONLY YOU, YOU GUYS CAN ANSWER.
COMMISSIONER CLARK, ARE YOU, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE DO A TWO WEEK DEFERRAL AND I I WOULD ADD THREE WEEKS.
AND I WOULD ASK, I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME THAT YOU, MR. LZ? MR. LZ, UM, YOU SEEM TO BE THE HEAD OF THIS, SO IF YOU WOULD GET WITH MS. KING AFTER THIS AND YOU GUYS DISCUSS MAYBE SOME POSSIBLE OPTIONS AND WHERE TO MEET SO YOU CAN GET THAT BALL ROLLING.
DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU, MR. LENZ? UH, WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN ATTORNEY, JASON POWELL, WHO SPOKE, UH, REMOTELY TO YOU.
I THINK HE'S THE PROPER PARTY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE LAKE, SHADOW CITY LEAGUE.
MR. HE'S MR. FOWL, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHOEVER YES, WHOEVER HE MAKES A CONNECTION.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A THREE WEEK DEFERRAL AND TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THAT TIME, IS THERE A SECOND CO.
SECOND CO COVAR? UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM 1 47 IS FIFTH WARD CHURCH OF CHRIST COMMUNITY THE SIZE LOCATED ALONG COPELAND STREET NORTH OF ORANGE STREET AND INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 AND HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS.
THE REASON FOR RE PLAT IS TO CREATE ONE UNRESTRICTED RESERVE.
THERE ARE NO BEARINGS REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS PLAT.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR OF IT PLEASES COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
WE HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
UM, FIRST IS, UH, I, I BELIEVE THE APP, MONICA FONTANO.
YOU CAN GO LAST YOU OR THE APPLICANT? YES.
I'D LIKE TO GO SECOND TO LAST.
UH, MIRIAM, UM, IS IT LE QUEZ? YES, MA'AM.
I AM THE DAUGHTER OF, UH, ROSARIO VALDES.
SHE LIVES ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS LOTS.
WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT THIS IS GOING TO COST.
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COMMUNITY, THE SMALL STREET OF COPELAND THERE, UH, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET.CHURCH IS TAKING OVER, BUT WITH PARKING LOTS, WE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S CAUSING DRAINAGE IN INSTABILITY.
THE STREETS ARE, UM, BEING DAMAGED BY ALL THIS TRAFFIC THAT THEY'RE BRINGING.
UM, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT FLOODING AND, UH, AND THESE PROPERTIES WERE ONLY RESIDENTIAL USE ONLY.
WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT THEY WANNA CONVERT THE WHOLE BLOCK INTO A PARKING LOT, UM, IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE VALUES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, UM, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE SOME SPEED BUMPS, BUT THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO ASK FOR IT.
UM, REALLY THAT IS, UM, OUR CONCERN.
AND THESE ARE NOT THE ONLY TWO LOTS.
THERE'S ONE MORE, WHICH I DIDN'T SEE THE, UH, REQUEST FOR IT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY NEXT TO MY MOTHER'S HOUSE.
THEY WENT AHEAD AND CONVERTED THAT PROPERTY INTO A PARKING LOT ALREADY.
AND NOW WE HAVE, UM, UH, PARK, UH, THEIR CHURCH MEMBERS PARKING IN BETWEEN TWO HOMES, WHICH IS UNACCEPTABLE BECAUSE WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THEM, UM, NOT BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THEIR PARKING SPACE.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT RESIDENTIAL, UM, LOTS HAVE A FIVE, UM, FEET, UM, RESTRICTION TO BUILDING THESE SLOTS.
WERE ALREADY SET UP AS A PARKING LOT AS NOW, AND THEY ONLY HAVE LESS THAN A FOOT SEPARATION FROM THE FENCE.
UH, THERE SHOULD BE MORE DISTANCE FROM IT IF IT'S APPROVED, BUT WE DEFINITELY WOULD NOT, UH, AGREE WITH THEM BEING PARKING LOTS.
UM, AND I AM GONNA CALL THE SPEAKERS FOR ONE FORTY SEVEN AND 1 48, UM, AS A GROUP, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I'VE GOT THEM.
UM, WE HAVE DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF ON THOSE, BUT, UM, OKAY.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SHIRLEY JOHNSON.
I DID HAVE A PICTURE, I WANTED TO SEE IF I COULD SHOW.
YOU CAN SEE IT WAS TAKEN FROM THE SECOND FLOOR OF MY MOTHER'S HOUSE.
CARS ARE ALREADY PARKED ON THAT SECTION.
SHIRLEY JOHNSON IS NOT PRESENT.
MARY WICKER, STR IS NOT PRESENT.
UH, ASH K ASH K IS NOT PRESENT.
UM, ASH K ASH K IS NOT PRESENT.
DOROTHY BROOKS IS NOT PRESENT.
SANDRA BUNTON? SANDRA BUNTON IS NOT PRESENT.
SHE PRESENT, I'M PRESENT, BUT I DON'T NEED TO TALK.
AND TOMMY JENNINGS IS NOT PRESENT.
MY NAME IS TOMMY JENNINGS, AND, UH, I'VE BEEN LIVING ON COPELAND STREET FOR OVER 39 AND I'M SHARING REMEMBER WHAT, 27 YEARS.
AND BASICALLY THE YOUNG LADY, MY NEIGHBOR, SHE DIDN'T REALLY SPOKEN EVERYTHING THAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK, BUT I HAVE ANOTHER JENNY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO IT, BUT THIS CHURCH IS BUILDING ALL THESE PARKING LOTS.
IT'S SOME KIND OF WAY WE COULD SUBMIT TO THEM TO START BUILDING, UH, SIDEWALKS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE NOT ONE SIDEWALK, UH, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, PERIOD.
AND BY THEM CONTINUE BUILDING THESE, UH, UH, MAKING THESE, UH, PARKING LOTS, I THINK IT'S GOING TO COST A FLOOD.
AND WE NEVER HAD A FLOOD THERE.
AND IT LOOKED LIKE THE WATER, UH, IS GETTING HIGHER BECAUSE ACTUALLY IT, UH, CAME ALL THE WAY TO MY HOME AND NORMALLY IT GO, IT FILLS THE DITCH, BUT NOW IT'S COMING CLOSE TO MY HOME, YOU KNOW, TO MY FOUNDATION.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ANY KINDA WAY THAT WE CAN SUBMIT SOMETHING TO WHERE THEY CAN STOP THIS.
WELL, YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACE,
WE THE LIMITED ABILITY TO STOP IT, BUT, UM, WE CAN MITIGATE IT AND, AND THE FLOODING ISSUES WILL BE, UH, REVIEWED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AT THE PERMITTING STAGE.
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SO, UM, AND WE'RE, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED, UM, MAKE ME WANT, DO YOU WANNA YEAH, COULD I JUST ASK, MAKE COMMENT, IS THE PARKING LOT ON THE EAST SIDE ALREADY POURED? IT'S A CONCRETE NO, NO.IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IT IN THE PICTURE.
WE'RE JUST GONNA INCLUDE ANY DRAINAGE.
LET US, LET ME CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER AND LET US DO SOME DELIBERATION, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
ONE QUESTION BACK TO THE SIDEWALKS, I MEAN, IS THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
UM, SO WE'RE BACK TO, UM, TIM JONES.
I'M, UH, TIM JONES AND, UH, I'M, UH, HERE WITH THE FIFTH WARD CHURCH OF CHRIST.
UH, THE REASON WHY THE, UH, PARKING LOTS WERE BUILT WAS TO ALLEVIATE THE PARKING ON THE STREET.
NOT TO CREATE A PROBLEM WITH THE PARKING, BUT TO ALLEVIATE THE PARKING THAT WAS ON THE STREET.
IT'S VERY NARROW, BUT WHEN ONE CAR IS PARKED ON THE STREET, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GO AROUND IT WITHOUT CAUSING ANOTHER PROBLEM.
SO BY ALLEVIATING THAT PROBLEM IS TO PUT ANOTHER PARKING LOT THERE SO THEY CAN PARK ON THE PARKING LOT AND NOT ON THE STREET.
UH, ALL THE REQUIREMENTS WERE MET FOR DRAINAGE.
ALL THE REQUIREMENTS WERE WET FOR ANY AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS ADDRESSED AND PRESENTED AT THE PROBLEM TO GO THROUGH ALL THE PROPER CHANNELS, ALL THAT WAS DONE.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND FROM MY VIEWPOINT AS TO WHY IS IT THAT SOMEONE IS THINKING THAT IT'S MAKING MORE PROBLEMS ON THE STREET WHEN YOU'RE TAKING THE CARS OFF OF THE STREET.
IS ANY, ARE ANY OF THESE PARKING LOTS REQUIRED FOR HAVE, ARE YOU MEETING, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS PUSHING THE NEED FOR THE PARKING? JUST TO GET YOUR, YOUR PARISHIONERS OFF THE STREET, OFF THE PARKING ON THE STREET? THAT'S THE ONLY REASON.
OUR MAIN REASON WE WERE BEING APPROACHED FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS ABOUT CARS BEING ON THE STREET WHEN THERE'S WORSHIP SERVICE GOING ON.
SO TO ALLEVIATE THAT, WE STARTED LOOKING INTO, UH, AREAS TO PUT ANOTHER PARKING LOT UP.
AND THAT AREA BECAME AVAILABLE.
ACTUALLY, THE PERSON WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY, WHO SOLD IT TO THE CHURCH, UH, ACTUALLY APPROACHED THE CHURCH TO BUY THE PROPERTY FROM THEM.
THEY ORIGINALLY HAD INVESTORS TO, TO DO ANOTHER BUILDING, UH, TWO HOMES ON THAT LOT.
BUT THE INVESTORS PULLED OUT BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD BUILD MORE HOMES THAN THEY ACTUALLY ENDED UP HAVING THE CAPABILITY TO BUILD.
AND SO THEY APPROACHED THE CHURCH TO BUY, UH, THOSE, THAT LAND.
AND SO THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TURN IT INTO A PARKING LOT.
WE HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER GARZA? YES, SIR.
SO, UM, CAN YOU TELL, DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD HOW MUCH PARKING IS REQUIRED FOR YOUR CHURCH AND WHAT YOU'RE PROVIDING AT THIS POINT IN TIME? UH, WELL, ADDITIONALLY, UM, IT WAS LOOKED INTO, LIKE I SAID, FOR ABOUT A COUPLE YEARS.
AND THIS PARKING LOT, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO PARKING LOTS, A LARGE ONE AND A SMALL ONE.
AND I THINK IT'S LISTED ON HERE AS 1 47 AND 1 48.
UH, ONE IS, UH, APPROXIMATELY 40 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES, AND THE OTHER ONE IS APPROXIMATELY 20 ADDITIONAL.
AND THAT IS, UH, IS THAT, IS THAT THE REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, FOR YOUR CHURCH AT THE PRESENT TIME? IT'S, UH, BASICALLY, I WOULD SAY SATISFIED THE NEED, UH, WITH SAY HOLIDAYS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THAT WILL PROBABLY STILL BE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING.
BUT ON A REGULAR SUNDAY BASIS, IT PRETTY MUCH SATISFIES IT.
AND BASICALLY IT'S ONLY, UH, PRETTY MUCH ONLY ON A SUNDAY BASIS.
THE REST OF THE TIME IT'S OPEN.
SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON COPELAND HAVE ALSO UTILIZED THAT PARKING, UH, LOT ALREADY.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S BASICALLY NOT JUST FOR THE CHURCH.
THE COMMUNITY'S USING IT ALSO.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER CLARK? I'M LEAVING.
CAN'T HAVE THE PARKING LOT'S BEEN BUILT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE ALREADY, IT'S A, IT'S A CON, UH, CRUSH CONCRETE.
AND YOU'VE HEARD THE NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SETBACK.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU COULD DO TO HELP THEM WITH THAT? WHEN YOU SAY SETBACK, YOU'RE CLOSE TO THEIR HOUSES? YEAH, IT IS.
UH, EVERYTHING IS, UH, FIVE FEET OR MORE AWAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER MARS? YES, GO AHEAD.
JUST A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, SINCE THERE'S SOME CONCERNS ABOUT PEDESTRIAN WALKING ON THE STREETS, ARE YOU CON CONNECTING THOSE TWO LOTS MAYBE WITH SOME KIND OF DELINEATION STRIPING FOR PEDESTRIANS TO KINDA,
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YOU KNOW, THAT ARE USING THAT TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH AND EVENTUALLY CONNECT TO THE CHURCH? YES.UH, THE TWO LOTS THAT'S IN MENTIONED RIGHT NOW, THAT IS AN AREA THAT IT CONNECTS BOTH OF THEM TO AN ADDITIONAL LOT THAT THEY CAN USE TO ACCESS THAT CORNER THAT ALLOWED THEM TO CROSS ORANGE STREET ONTO ANOTHER, UH, SAY, UH, FAMILY LIFE CENTER FOR THE CHURCH.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL MONICA FAU POINT.
I'M RUNNING, I'M RUNNING, I'M RUNNING.
HI, I'M MONICA FAU POINT, DEXTER.
SO AS YOU HEARD, UM, THE CHURCH IS CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING ADDITIONAL PARKING SO THAT, UH, THEIR CONGREGANTS HAVE A PLACE TO GO, UH, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PARK UP AND DOWN THE STREET, WHICH ADDS TO THE SAFETY, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ADDITIONAL CARS ON THE STREET.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, ONE PARKING LOT IS ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, AND THE OTHER PARKING LOT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
AND, UM, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 1 47 AND 1 48.
SO WHEN THEY'RE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER, THEN THAT CREATES A WIDTH OF 60 FOOT FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE ON A PREVIOUS REPL, A STREET DEDICATION WAS GIVEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET IT'S, UM, 55 BECAUSE ON THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY 1 47 THAT'S TALKED THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, THERE WAS A, UH, DEDICATION THAT WOULD ALLOW 55 UH, FEET.
SO THE REST OF THE STREET IS A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
AND SO, UM, AT THIS TIME, THEY JUST REALLY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, ASSIST THE NEIGHBORS BY HAVING MORE PEOPLE HAVE A PLACE TO PARK INSTEAD OF PARKING IN FRONT OF THE YARD.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? I DO.
COMMISSIONER GARZA, JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALKS WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER AND I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY WOULD REQUIRE NEW SIDEWALKS TO BE BUILT.
WOULD THEY NOT? SIX FOOT, SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF YOUR POCKET.
BUT IT'S A PART OF THE, UH, REQUIREMENT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER'S REQUIRED.
SO THAT WOULD BE FOR THAT PORTION OF LAND THAT WE'RE, WE'RE REC PLATTING? YES.
AND THERE IS A DITCH IN FRONT OF IT, AND THERE ARE POLES AND UTILITY POLES AND ALL THESE, UH, CONSIDERATIONS THAT WILL N YOU HAVING TO PUT A SIDEWALK THERE.
BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A CORRECT, BUT IT IS A REPORT, BUT, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS YOU'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. FONTANO? OKAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE A FEW PEOPLE WHO WERE ONLINE.
I KNOW YOU READ NAMES EARLIER, AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE ONLINE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
THEY, I CALLED THEM AND THEY DIDN'T TYPE UP PROBLEM.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE A THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
COME FORWARD IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
AND IF YOU WOULD, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
HELLO, MY NAME IS JOCELYN RAMIREZ.
I'M THE GRANDDAUGHTER, UM, OF THE ELDERLY WOMAN THAT LIVES RIGHT NEXT TO THE, UH, PARKING LOT THAT WAS JUST BUILT.
UM, I CURRENTLY RESIDE AT THE RESIDENCE.
UM, I AM TENDING TO THE LOT FOR MY GRANDMOTHER, THE PROPERTY FOR HER AT THE MOMENT.
UM, WITH ME BEING DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT, I CAN ASSURE YOU THERE ARE STILL ISSUES WITH PARKING EVERY SUNDAY, EVERY WEDNESDAY, UM, WHENEVER THEY HAVE BIBLE STUDIES OR EVENTS OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT.
THERE ARE STILL VEHICLES PARKED ON THE STREETS.
THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE OF THE SIDEWALKS.
THERE'S PEOPLE WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET ALL THE TIME, UM, THE PARKING LOT AS WELL.
UM, THEY, THE, THE PARKING SPOTS ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE HOME.
I CAN HEAR PEOPLE GETTING IN THEIR CARS.
I'M IN MY BED, I'M IN MY HOME.
AND I CAN HEAR THEM FROM THE COMFORT OF MY HOME.
I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND IT'S FOR A CHURCH OR SUPPOSEDLY PUBLIC PARKING, NOBODY BUT CHURCH MEMBERS USE THAT PARKING LOT EITHER WAY.
UM, IT STILL JUST DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE FOR ME PERSONALLY.
MY GRANDMOTHER HAS HAD THAT PROPERTY SINCE I'VE BEEN AROUND 26, 27 YEARS NOW.
UM, SO HAVING THAT HOME FOR SUCH A LONG TIME, UM, WE'VE NEVER HAD ISSUES AT ALL WITH SAFETY OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT.
WE'VE ALWAYS TRUSTED OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'VE ALWAYS TRUSTED OUR NEIGHBORS.
WE'VE ALWAYS TRUSTED THAT WE WOULD BE SAFE IN WHERE WE ARE AT THIS MOMENT.
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THAT WAY.UM, AT THE SAME TIME, UM, THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE WITH THE DUST THAT THE, UH, I THINK THEY SAID THE, IT LOOKS LIKE GRAVEL TO US.
UM, IT KICKS UP SO MUCH DUST WITH JUST EVERYDAY WINDS TO PEOPLE DRIVING IN THE PARKING LOT OR WALKING IN THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE, UH, AND I CAN SEE IT ON MY CAR.
UH, IF I LEAVE MY CAR OUT FOR EVEN AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS, THERE'S A BUNCH OF DUST ON IT.
I CAN BE LIVING IN A CONDITION WHERE IT COULD POTENTIALLY ENDANGER ME AND MY HEALTH.
UM, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THEN, NOW, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON, UM, ITEM? LET'S DO JUST 1 47.
HI, MY NAME IS CLAUDIA RENA AND I'M, YOU CAN PULL THAT MICROPHONE DOWN SO WE CAN HEAR YOU BETTER.
UM, MY NAME IS CLAUDIA RENA AND I'M A DAUGHTER OF ROSARIO.
UM, THE ONE THAT, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE FOR HER.
UM, ONE OF MY CONCERN, MY CONCERN IS THAT IT, THE CHURCH NEEDS PARKING LOT.
THEY NEED TO FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING OVER THE WHOLE BLOCK.
THEY DON'T HAVE JUST THOSE TWO LOTS.
THEY HAVE ALL AROUND THE, THE JUST, IT'S A TWO BLOCK NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR THE CHURCH AND THEY'RE TAKING OVER EVERY LOT THAT THEY CAN FIND.
THEY PURCHASE IN IT JUST FOR PARKING LOT.
MY MOM'S HOUSE HAS PARKING LOT BEHIND HER AND NOW NEXT TO HER.
SO IT, SHE'S SURROUNDED BY PARKING AND IT, WE LIKED THE AREA BECAUSE IT WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE MOVED IN THERE BECAUSE THEY WERE DOING REDEVELOPING.
UH, WE DON'T SEE THAT THAT IS REDEVELOPING.
IT'S DESTROYING ACTUALLY HOMES TO BUILD PARKING.
SO TO ME, IT EITHER THEY NEED TO FIND, GET A BUS AND FIND A LOT SOMEWHERE FAR AND JUST GET A BUS AND, AND RIDE THEIR PEOPLE.
BUT THERE, THIS IS NOT A PLACE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALL THE PARKING LOT ALL AROUND.
UH, ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 1 47? OKAY.
DID YOU KNOW? YEAH, WE ALREADY HEARD FROM YOU.
WE, YOU JUST GET ONE SHOT HERE.
OH, IT'S SOMETHING Y'ALL HAVE TO HEAR THEN
LET'S SEE, LET'S SEE WHAT WE DO ON THE ITEMS. OKAY.
ON SPEAKING ON BOTH OF THESE, 1 47 IS A, A SHALL APPROVE ITEM THAT'S BEEN REVIEWED AND MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
BUT THERE IS A VARIANCE REQUEST ON 1 48.
AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER YES.
UM, AND YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN YOUR PRESENTATION ON THAT YET, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
I GOTTA HANDLE THESE SEPARATELY FOR PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 1 47, UM, I'LL TURN TO THE COMMISSION.
AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER CLARK? SO THIS IS A SHALL APPROVE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND I KNOW WE WANNA DO THIS AND THEN MOVE ON TO 1 48, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BOTH TOGETHER.
UM, SO I GUESS I'M MAKING THAT MOTION
UM, BECAUSE I KNOW WITH THE VARIANCE, WE MAY ASK FOR SOME THINGS AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TALK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
BE WELL, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT WE NEED TO HEAR TO MAKE SURE WE'VE OPENED AND, AND THE PUBLIC HEARING ON, ON BOTH OF THEM.
SO COULD WE MOVE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL AFTER 1 48? YEAH, THAT WAS JUST WHAT I WAS GONNA, OKAY, GOOD.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT'S MY, YES.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL AFTER WE DISCUSS 1 48.
AND THE MOTION WAS BALDWIN AND CLARK.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HOLD AND DO 1 48, MS. FLM.
ITEM 1 48 IS FIFTH WARD CHURCH OF CHRIST RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT, THE SIZE LOCATED IN CITY WEST OF WACO STREET AND NORTH OF INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REPL IS TO CREATE ONE UNRESTRICTED RESERVE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR AN EXISTING CHURCH.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES.
THE FIRST VARIANCE IS TO ALLOW AN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE TO BE LESS THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE, AND TO ALLOW THE RESERVE TO HAVE FRONTAGE LESS THAN 60 FEET AT THE TIME.
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RECOMMENDS DEFERRING THE PLAT TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, INCLUDING A PARKING ANALYSIS THAT WOULD HELP TO FURTHER EVALUATE THE VARIANCE REQUESTS.REVIEW BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT DOES NOT VIOLATE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OF THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE PLAT TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TIME TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BY NOON NEXT WEDNESDAY.
MADAM CHAIR PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 48 IS OPEN, AND THE FIRST SPEAKER IS TOMMY JENNINGS.
UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I, I, UH, I KNOW THE GOOGLE MAP SPEAK RIGHT INTO THE MIC.
I KNOW THE GOOGLE MAP HASN'T, UH, UPDATED YET.
LEMME CUT THIS OFF, BUT THEY HAVE EIGHT, IT'S EIGHT PARKING LOTS RIGHT OFF OF WACO.
THEY HAVE THREE THEY BUILT AND ONE ACROSS FROM THERE IN THE NEW PARKING LOT THAT THEY JUST BUILT.
THE YOUNG LADY RIGHT HERE, THERE'S A PARKING LOT NEXT TO HER THAT'S WELL ENOUGH.
MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR A PARKING LOT.
IT'S EIGHT TOTAL, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WAY MORE THAN ENOUGH, YOU KNOW.
SO, AND ONE OF THE, I JUST HAD TO, I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I, WE HEAR YOU.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, MS. FL, UH, IN, IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF SAID IS IN THE DEFERRAL PERIOD, WE WANNA DO A PARKING ANALYSIS TO SORT OF LOOK AT SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
NOW, WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO TELL SOMEBODY THEY CAN'T BUILD SOMETHING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OR NOT WE DON'T HAVE ZONING.
SO, WELL, I APPRECIATE IT IF THEY, I HEARD 'EM WHEN THEY SAY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD, UH, WHAT, WHAT DID I SAY? UH, UH, WALKING, UM, SIDEWALK RIVER.
SIDEWALK A SIDEWALK THEY WERE GONNA BUILD IN FRONT OF THEIR CHURCH.
WELL, WE WHAT ABOUT US? WE NEED, YEAH.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO, ALL RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PUT A HAND INTO THAT WHEN THEY BUILD THEIRS AND SAY, HEY, LET'S TRY TO, YOU KNOW, PUT MORE, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU.
UH, UH, DEVELOP MORE, YOU KNOW, FAR AS PUTTING MORE, YOU KNOW.
BUT YOU ALL JUST HAD, I HAD TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT'S EIGHT PARKING LOTS.
I'M GONNA CALL THE NEXT SPEAKERS.
UM, IF YOU'RE HERE THIS TIME, SHIRLEY JOHNSON IS NOT PRESENT.
MARY WICKER, TROTTER NOT PRESENT.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO YOU WANNA SPEAK AGAIN? OKAY, UH, JOCELYN RAMIREZ.
I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME PHOTOS I'D LIKE TO SHARE AS WELL, IF I CAN, UH, SHOW THEM ON THE DISPLAY HERE.
SO THIS PHOTO HERE IS IN MY BACKYARD WHERE THE TWO PARKING LOTS MEET.
IF YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A TARP THAT'S THERE.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD TO PLACE THAT TARP THERE FOR PRIVACY REASONS, BECAUSE THE PARKING LOT IS DIRECTLY FACING INTO OUR BACKYARD.
UM, WHEN THEY TORE DOWN THE FENCE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY THAT THEY HAD PURCHASED AND THE PARKING LOT THAT THEY HAD ORIGINALLY ALREADY HAD, THEY LEFT A PORTION OF THE FENCE THAT, UM, BROKEN.
THEY TORE DOWN THE, THE METAL FENCE THAT WAS THERE.
THEY ALSO TORE DOWN A PORTION OF THE WOOD FENCE LEAVING QUITE A HUGE HOLE IN OUR FENCE, WHICH ALSO LEADS TOWARDS MY SAFETY CONCERNS.
THAT LEAVES IT TO WHERE IF ANYBODY SEES THAT THAT HOLE IS THERE, THEY CAN COME INTO MY PROPERTY AT ANY POINT.
UM, THIS, THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO HERE WHERE IT SHOWS WHERE THE METAL FENCE USED TO MEET WITH THE METAL POST, AND IT NO LONGER DOES.
THAT WAS AFTER THEIR CONSTRUCTION, AFTER THEY DECIDED TO TURN THAT INTO A PARKING LOT.
AND AGAIN, JUST ADDS TO MY SAFETY CONCERNS AS WELL.
IF SHE, YOU KNOW, I HAD A SECURE BACKYARD WHERE SHE COULD DO HER BUSINESS, ENJOY HER TIME OUTSIDE, COME INSIDE SAFELY.
WITH THAT FENCE BEING OPEN LIKE THAT, SHE NO LONGER HAS THE SAFETY OR SECURITY OF HAVING HER OWN PRIVATE BACKYARD TO DO HER OWN BUSINESS AND TO ENJOY BEING OUTSIDE AND PLAYING LIKE A DOG.
SO,
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CONSTRUCTING OR THAT THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTED JUST DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T PROVIDE THE SAFETY OR, UH, ANY KIND OF SECURITY THAT THEY'RE STATING THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE US.MS. UH, RAINA, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK? NO.
I'M MIRIAM, DID YOU WANNA OH, OKAY.
YOU WERE ONLY SIGNED UP FOR 1 47, BUT GO RIGHT AHEAD.
I WANTED TO POINT OUT ON THE PICTURE AS YOU HAVE IT THERE, YOU SEE THE PARKING LOT BEHIND THAT ONE THAT IS PROPOSED.
IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, WHICH WE NEVER HAD ISSUES WITH BECAUSE IT WAS BEHIND US.
NOW IT'S GOING TO BE NEXT TO US.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THEY TOOK THE FENCE THAT DIVIDED THOSE TWO LOTS OFF, AS MY DAUGHTER MENTIONED.
AND NOW THEY HAVE A, A DRIVE THROUGH GOING THROUGH THE BIG PARKING AREA INTO THAT LITTLE STREET, COPELAND STREET, WHICH IS GONNA CAUSE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
WE ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE OF SAFETY.
WE, THEY HAVE VERY LATE, UH, GATHERINGS AND, UM, WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THESE PEOPLE, OBVIOUSLY.
AND, UH, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA.
THEY COME FROM MANY, MANY DIFFERENT PLACES.
AND, UH, IF, IF THEY REALLY LOVE THIS CHURCH, THEY NEED TO GATHER TO THEIR MONEY AND FIND A 10 50 ACRE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND BUILD IT THERE WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THE PARKING THAT THEY NEED.
AND STOP USING OUR STREET AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND DESTROYING IT FOR THEIR PURPOSES.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 48? YES, I WOULD.
I JUST WANNA STATE THE CORRECT FACTS ON THE PARKING LOT.
ONE IS ON THE CORNER OF, UH, ON MARKET STREET, FEEDER ROAD, AND, UH, WACO.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT'S ON WACO AND IT BACKS UP TO ORANGE.
THAT'S THOSE TWO THAT ARE THERE ON COPELAND.
THAT'S TWO ADDITIONAL PARKING, UH, LOTS.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE THAT'S ON COPELAND AND THE FEEDER OF STONEWALL.
SO A TOTAL, IN TOTAL COUNTING THE TWO THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
THAT'S FIVE PARKING LOTS TOTAL COUNTING THE TWO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
UH, CONCERNING THE FENCE, THE FENCE WAS TORE DOWN.
THAT WAS NO FENCE THAT WAS TOUCHED, THAT BELONGS TO ANYONE BESIDES THE FIFTH WARD CHURCH OF CHRIST.
NO ONE FENCE HAS BEEN, UH, DAMAGED OR ANYTHING ELSE.
THERE WAS A FENCE THAT WAS TAKEN DOWN TO HAVE ACCESS FROM ONE PARKING LOT TO ANOTHER TO ALLEVIATE WALKING IN THE STREET.
THAT'S WHY IT WAS, IT WAS TORN DOWN.
THAT FENCE BELONGED TO THE FIFTH WARD CHURCH OF CHRIST.
SO THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANYTHING THAT WAS DAMAGED OR DONE TO ANY OTHER PERSON'S PROPERTY.
WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT I DID SEE THAT BLUE TARP, THAT BLUE TARP WAS THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A HOLE IN THAT PERSON'S OR RESIDENCE FENCE AND IT'S TO KEEP THEIR STUFF IN OR OUT.
NOTHING WAS EVER TOUCHED THAT DIDN'T BELONG TO FIFTH WARD.
SO I JUST WANT, AND, AND CONCERNING THE HOURS OF, UH, WORSHIP SERVICE, WE HAVE WORSHIP SERVICE ON, UH, SUNDAY AT NINE O'CLOCK AND AT SIX AT NIGHT.
THE SIX AT NIGHT SERVICE IS APPROXIMATELY 30 TO 45 MINUTES.
WE HAVE, UH, A WEDNESDAY NIGHT SERVICE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AND THAT'S FOR 45 MINUTES.
THAT'S NO OTHER ANY, UNLESS THAT'S FUNERALS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
ANYTHING ELSE IS, IS JUST LIKE THIS FRIDAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TURKEY GIVEAWAY THAT'S IN THE MORNING.
IT WILL NOT RUN AT NIGHT GREAT.
FROM, NOT FROM 10 IN THE MORNING TILL 12 NOON.
CAN I JUST GET CLARITY WITH HIM? YES.
JUST CURIOUS, DID YOU GET A PERMIT FOR THE PARKING LOT ON THE SINGLE LOT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? THE PERMIT IS IN PROCESS OF GETTING IT RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN'T GET THE PERMIT WITHOUT HAVING THE YEAH, YEAH.
HAVING ALL THE PLANNING, UH, DONE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE STAGE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH TILL WE CAN GET THAT.
BUT YOU ARE USING IT AS A PARKING LOT BEFORE YOU GET THE PERMIT, CORRECT? YES.
UM, AND THEN MONICA, SORRY, I QUESTION, OH, I'M SORRY.
MR. JONES, YOU HEAR ALL THE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS AND I KNOW THE CHURCH WANTS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
THE AREA OF THE FENCES THAT YOU TOOK DOWN, IF IT CREATED HOLES FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS, WOULD YOU NOT WANNA TRY TO HELP THEM OUT AND GET THOSE HOLES FIXED? YES.
AND, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING TOO CLOSE? I MEAN, I, I KIND OF THINK THAT THIS REQUIRES A COMMUNITY MEETING.
UM, AND THAT'S THE REASON I RECOMMENDED A DEFERRAL.
I REALLY THINK IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE TO HAVE YOUR CONGREGATION MEET AND BE A FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR TO YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE LIVING THERE, YOU REALLY NEED TO TALK TO 'EM.
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IT MIGHT REQUIRE, MAYBE YOU WANNA THINK ABOUT DOING SOME SCREENING, SOME, SOME PLANTING AGAINST YOUR NEIGHBORS.I MEAN, IF YOU LIVED THERE, WE, WE'VE MET WITH, HOLD ON.
IF YOU LIVED THERE AND YOU'D BEEN LIVING THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND YOU KNOW, YOU FELT PEACEFUL, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD PARKING LOTS, BUT YOU WANNA DO IT AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR, YOU WOULD NOT WANT THOSE LIGHTS COMING IN YOUR HOUSE.
YOU WOULD NOT P WANT PEOPLE CONGREGATING AT YOUR FENCE AND TALKING.
SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THE PARKING LOTS ARE NEEDED.
YOU, YOU GOTTA GET THOSE CARS OFF THE STREET.
I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BETTER OFF WITH THE PARKING LOTS.
UM, BUT I JUST THINK YOU NEED TO DO IT IN A FRIENDLY MANNER.
IT, IT WAS CONCERNING YOUR, YOUR QUESTION, IF YOU WAS ASKING ONE TOWARD THE FENCE, THE FENCE, UH, THAT WAS TAKEN DOWN WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OTHER PARKING LOT.
IT DID NOT DISTURB ANY, THERE'S A NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT HAS A FENCE ON, SO THE PARKING LOT IS IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO RESIDENCE.
SO IT WAS TAKEN IN BETWEEN THERE AND NOT, NOT OFF THE PROPERTY.
SO IT COULDN'T HAVE CAUSED ANY, ANY DAMAGE TO THAT.
AND, UH, WE'VE TALKED TO, UH, SEVERAL, AND I'M GONNA SAY NOT, I CAN'T SAY ALL, BUT WE'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL NEIGHBORS, UH, AROUND THAT AREA AND CONTINUED TO, UH, WHEN THE OTHER PARKING LOT WAS BUILT, THAT WAS A FENCE THAT WAS ERECTED AROUND ONE OF THE NEIGHBOR'S HOMES.
AND THAT FENCE WAS ERECTED BECAUSE THE NEIGHBOR CAME TO US AND SAID THEY WOULD LIKE A HIGHER FENCE.
WELL, THE CHURCH ERECT THE FENCE, NOT THE NEIGHBOR.
THE CHURCH ERECTED THE FENCE FOR THE NEIGHBOR.
THERE'S ALSO A NEIGHBOR ON THE CORNER OF, UH, WACO AND STONEWALL THAT HAD THE SAME CONCERNS.
UH, HE'S PASSED AWAY AT THAT TIME, BUT HIS SON IS THERE NOW.
AND HE HAD CONCERNS THE CHURCH ERECTED A FENCE FOR HIM TO, TO CALM HIS CONCERNS DOWN.
SO IT'S NOT AS IF THE CHURCH ISN'T TAKING ANY HEED TO WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING.
THEY'RE LISTENING AND THEY'RE ACTING UPON THAT, BUT TO SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING IT AND THAT THEY'RE CAUSING DAMAGE AND THEY'RE PUTTING TRAFFIC, WE ALLEVIATING TRAFFIC.
THAT FENCE WAS TORN DOWN SO NO ONE WOULD WALK ON THE STREET.
WE DON'T WANNA SEE ANYONE GET HURT.
SO IT WAS NO, AND I, I APPRECIATE ACROSS, I APPRECIATE YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS IN THE PREVIOUS PARKING LOT.
AND THE SIDEWALK ISSUE, WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHTS TO THE RIGHT TO JUST BUILD A SIDEWALK.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN JUST SAY.
I'M JUST GONNA PUT A SIDEWALK THERE AND THERE'S DITCHES THERE.
THAT CHURCH, THERE'S TELEPHONE POLES, THERE'S UH, UNDERGROUND UTILITIES THERE, THERE'S WATER METERS THERE.
CAN'T JUST GO MOVING THE CITY STUFF AND START BUILDING ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD.
I BELIEVE THAT REQUIREMENT WOULD COME ALONG.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS YOU NOW HAVE NEIGHBORS ON THESE NEW PARKING LOTS THAT HAVE CONCERNS.
I'M ONLY ASKING YOU TO STOP, LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS AND SEE IF YOU CAN WORK WITH THEM.
AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE UP TO THIS POINT.
AND I, I SECOND THAT, UH, MR. JONES THAT, UM, CONTINUE TO LISTEN.
YOU, YOU JUST NOTED THAT, UM, YOU'VE LISTENED TO PREVIOUS NEIGHBORS AND, AND MADE ACCOMMODATIONS.
UH, I THINK, UH, AT A MACRO LEVEL, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO STEP BACK AND THINK ABOUT THIS HOLISTICALLY.
I I THINK EVERYONE ON THIS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, IF WE LOOK OUT FIVE, 10 YEARS, MORE THAN LIKELY YOU'LL ACQUIRE MORE PARKING LOTS, UM, TO, UH, OR PROPERTY TO CREATE PARKING LOTS.
AND THERE'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN THAT NEIGHBORS FEEL THEY'RE LOSING THEIR COMMUNITY, UM, WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY, UM, THE CHURCH IS BUILDING COMMUNITY.
UH, I THINK THERE'S SOME LEGITIMATE ISSUES.
I SEE THE QUALITY OF THESE PARKING LOTS.
I I HEARD ISSUES ABOUT LIGHTING, LACK OF BUFFERS, LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, LACK OF SAFETY BUFFERS, UH, THE QUALITY OF THIS PARKING LOT OR THESE PARKING LOTS THAT YOU ARE CREATING.
YOU NEED TO REALLY CONSIDER, UM, HOW THEY'RE PERCEIVED, HOW THEY'RE FUNCTION, HOW THEY FUNCTION, UM, AND WHAT VALUE ADD THEY MAY HAVE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
YOU HEARD THE ISSUES ABOUT DUST.
YOU HEARD THE ISSUES ABOUT, UM, UM, SAFETY RELATIVE TO PEOPLE ARE WALKING AROUND THEIR HOMES AT NIGHT.
UM, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US, WELL, LET ME SPEAK FOR MYSELF, UM, WOULD NOT BE CONCERNED IF THERE ARE STRANGERS WALKING AROUND MY PROPERTY AT NIGHT.
SO AGAIN, JUST STEP BACK, RIGHT? GET OUT THE WEEDS, UM, AND JUST THINK OF THIS LIKE YOU DO WITH GOD AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND I THINK HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, MEETING WITH THEM AGAIN, LISTENING, UH, MORE
AND WE, WE THANK YOU IN ADVANCE
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FOR DOING THAT.APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU SAID.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR OUR SPEAKER? THANK YOU.
I'M MONICA FONTANO POINDEXTER.
UM, I THINK MOST OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS EXPRESSED REALLY IS PROBABLY ABOUT 1 48.
UM, WHEREAS 1 47, IT'S A, A LARGER PARCEL OF LAND AND IT, IT'S, DOESN'T SHARE THE SAME ENCUMBRANCES.
AND SO, UM, I WAS WONDERING OR, UH, LIKE, UH, TO SUGGEST THAT POSSIBLY 1 47 COULD MOVE FORWARD, UM, SINCE IT IS A SHELL APPROVED ITEM AND MAYBE 1 48 REMAIN DEFERRED UNTIL NEXT TIME AND WE'LL MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SEE WHAT KINDS OF THINGS THAT, UH, CAN BE DONE.
AS FOR THE SIDEWALK ISSUE, THANK YOU.
A SIDEWALK IS A REQUIREMENT FOR PERMITTING.
AND SO THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET A PERMIT UNLESS THEY SHOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
AND I THINK YOU'VE RAISED SOME GREAT, UM, QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE BUFFER AND THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.
SO YES, THE FENCE IS DOWN TEMPORARILY, BUT THE CHURCH DOES PLAN TO PUT ONE UP WHEN THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE THE PROCESS.
SO THEY JUST NEED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE TIME TO, YOU KNOW, GET IT PERMITTED AND MOVE FORWARD SO THAT THEY CAN, UM, COMPLETE THE PROCESS.
AND THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, CAN BE, UH, BEAUTIFIED AND, AND THE FENCING CAN BE PUT UP ON THEIR SIDE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MEANTIME, YES, THE NEIGHBOR COULD PUT UP HER FENCE IF SHE WANTED TO, BUT THE CHURCH WILL GET TO THAT AS SOON AS, YOU KNOW, THEY CLEAR THESE OTHER HURDLES IN TERMS OF GETTING, UH, THE PERMITTING PERFECTED.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CLARK? I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID.
UM, I KNOW 1 47 IS AS SHALLOW PROOF, BUT I DO THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BACKING AND YOU'RE BESIDES SEVERAL NEIGHBORS AND IT, IT'S A HUGE AREA.
I THINK YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING BY GETTING THE CARS OFF THE STREET.
BUT I'D, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THE, I'D LIKE YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE AREA AND LISTEN TO THE NEIGHBORS.
WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO, SINCE THE PARKING LOTS ARE THERE AND YOU'RE USING THEM, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO DEFERRING BOTH OF THEM AND COMING BACK IN THREE WEEKS AFTER YOU'VE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOKED AT IT? LIKE I SAID, HOLISTICALLY, YES.
THE CHURCH IS, IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS AND CERTAINLY THEY'VE BEEN SERVING THE COMMUNITY FOR 90.
MY QUESTION IS, SINCE YOU'RE USING IT ANYHOW, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO DEFERRING BOTH 1 47 AND 1 48 AND LOOKING AT IT HOLISTICALLY SPEAKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN COMING BACK IN THREE WEEKS WITH BOTH ITEMS AGAIN? YES.
UH, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE ARE HOLIDAYS INVOLVED, UM, THIS PROJECT CAN ONLY BE DEFERRED ONCE, SO, RIGHT, RIGHT.
AND SO I'M GONNA ASK THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE SAME TIME, I'M ASKING YOU THAT YOU ALL TAKE A CONCERTED, DILIGENT EFFORT TO HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE I, WHEN YOU COME BACK, I'M NOT REAL FORGIVING WHEN PEOPLE DON'T TRY TO DO WHAT THEY'VE SAID THEY'RE GONNA DO.
UM,
AND IF THEY DON'T THEN YEAH, I WOULD LOOK AT THIS WHOLE THING DIFFERENTLY.
BUT I'D ASK BOTH SIDES GET TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT THREE WEEKS.
I KNOW THANKSGIVING IS NEXT WEEK, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE CONTACTS RIGHT HERE WITH YOU.
STOP AND TALK TO THEM AND LET'S GET TOGETHER AND, AND YOU GUYS HAVE A MEETING AND COME BACK TO US IN THREE WEEKS.
AND I'M ASKING EVERYONE THAT'S IN THIS ROOM NOW, PLEASE GET WITH ME.
I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING THAT NOTIFICATION BECAUSE YOU MIGHT NOT BE IN AN AREA RIGHT.
BUT YOU'RE HERE TODAY AND WE'RE INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AND WE CAN'T REACH OUT TO YOU IF YOU DON'T GIVE ME YOUR CONTACT.
SO YOU GUYS HEAR HER, SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION OVER TO HER.
AND SO I KNOW THAT YOU'LL STILL ASK FOR OTHER SPEAKERS, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION HERE IN A SECOND.
AND I THINK, UM, I, I THINK THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS IS FOR FIRST WE GET A PROCEDURAL MOTION.
TO TAKE UP ITEMS 1 47 AND 1 48 TOGETHER.
AND IF WE DO THAT, THEN WE CAN HAVE A MOTION.
IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER BOTH AND CONTINUE BOTH HEARINGS, THEN WE WILL HAVE DEALT WITH THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I'LL DO THE FIRST MOTION FIRST.
SO LET'S DO THE FIRST MOTION PROCEDURALLY TO TAKE 1 47
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AND 1 48 TOGETHER.SO THE MOTION IS CLARK AND HINES.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES NOW ON 1 47 AND 1 48.
COMMISSIONER CLARK, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A, A MOTION THAT WE DEFER TO THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS A THREE WEEK DEFERRAL, BOTH 1 47 AND 1 48.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO DEFER 1 47 AND 1 48 AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
IS THERE A SECOND? HINES? HINES.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN OH YES.
UM, SO MR. FLM, UM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION AND THIS IS JUST SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THIS IN THREE WEEKS.
SO IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING NOW THAT THESE PARKING LOTS ARE BASICALLY GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL USAGE? THEY'RE FOR THE CHURCH THERE.
AND HAVING SAID, SO IS THERE A REQUIREMENT OR SINCE THERE'S A VARIANCE QUESTION, WE CAN MAKE A REQUIREMENT TO ASK THAT CERTAIN SIZE FENCES GET PUT IN THAT THEY BE LUMBER FENCES SO THAT THERE'S BLOCKING VIEWS AND CAN ALSO ASK FOR PLANTERS AND A BUFFER THAT'S WITH THE FIVE FEET FROM THE FED.
WOULD YOU PLEASE MUTE? HELLO? HELLO? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU MUTE? OH, THANK YOU.
YEAH, I WAS INVITED TO THAT PARTY
SO, UM, NO, SO WHAT, WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS THERE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE HAVE A VARIANCE REQUEST.
SO WE HAVE AN OPTION OF ASKING FOR SOME ITEMS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO LET ME FIRST SAY ABOUT SIDEWALKS, THEY WILL ONLY BE IN FRONT OF THESE PROPERTIES.
THEY WILL NOT BE THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT NEW BUILDING, NEW CONSTRUCTION WILL REQUIRE A SIDEWALK.
BUT THAT PUT ASIDE, UM, MS. WILHEM.
SO NEXT, WHEN WE COME BACK, I WANNA KNOW WHAT'S REQUIRED AND WHAT WE CAN ASK FOR.
AND IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY'RE DIFFERENT, BUT MY THOUGHT WOULD BE WE ASK FOR A SEVEN OR EIGHT FOOT FENCE THAT'S MAYBE LUMBER TO BLOCK OFF THE PARKING LOTS FROM THE HOUSES.
AND ALSO IF IN FACT THE HOUSES, THE CARS ARE PARKING NEXT TO THE FENCE, WE MIGHT ASK FOR, UM, A PLANTING BUFFER, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER, UH, TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE SPACE AND ALSO TO BLOCK THE DUST AND THE NOISE AND EVERYTHING ELSE FROM THE STREET.
SO IF YOU CAN DIFFERENTIATE FOR ME WHICH OF THOSE IS REQUIRED, IF AT ALL, AND WHICH OF THOSE WE MIGHT, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME BETTER IDEAS.
UM, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, WE MIGHT SAY THAT IF THERE'S ANY LIGHTING IN THAT PARKING LOT, IT HAS TO BE SHIELDED FROM THE, THE HOUSING NEXT DOOR.
SO WHATEVER YOU COME UP WITH, JUST DIFFERENTIATE FOR US, WHICH IS REQUIRED IN WHICH WE MIGHT BE ASKING FOR.
ANY OTHER REQUESTS IN THE DEFERRAL PERIOD? COMMISSIONER MAD COMMISSIONER MAD? WELL, I DO, I GUESS I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT FOR DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES WHEN WE'RE ASKING FOR REQUESTS DURING VARIANCE AND ALL THAT, IT'S, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY MINDFUL ABOUT PASSING ON COSTS TO DEVELOPERS THAT GET PASSED ON TO, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMERS DOWNSTREAM.
BUT IN THIS CASE, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT SELLING THIS TO ANYBODY.
THERE'S NO PROFIT BECAUSE I WANNA BE VERY MINDFUL THAT WE'RE NOT PUNISHING THEM BY ASKING KIND OF TOO MUCH MORE THAN SHOULD BE EXPECTED BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S A LOT OF COST THAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING ON THE APPLICANT THAT THEY CAN'T PASS ON TO ANYBODY.
SO I JUST, NOT TO SAY THAT WE SHOULDN'T ASK FOR CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE APPROPRIATE, BUT I I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP IT APPROPRIATE IS MY COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER CLARK AND I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MAREZ.
MY INTENT IS NOT TO PLACE A HUGE BURDEN ON THIS APPLICANT.
I'M JUST ASKING THAT THEY BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO BUILD PARKING LOTS BESIDE AND BEHIND RESIDENTS IS THINGS LIKE JUST A A, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND A FENCE.
I MEAN, AND THEY HAVE TO DO A SIDEWALK THAT'S REQUIRED, RIGHT? SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE ASKING FOR ANYTHING TOO EXCESSIVE, BUT I, I AGREE WITH YOU.
IT'S JUST A, A MATTER OF TRYING TO MAKE THE TWO USES BLEND A LITTLE BETTER.
ANY OTHER ELSE? DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, TO DEFER AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
THE MOTION CARRIES BOTH 1 47 1 48 ARE DEFERRED PUBLIC HEARINGS CONTINUED.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE CITY ALONG GOFOR STREET, WEST OF CULLEN BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAY SIX 10.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REPL IS TO CREATE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE PLA FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CBC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
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STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 49 GO FORTH.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 1 49? HEARING NO RESPONSE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION? GARZA GARZA, VIRA BLAND, VIRA BLAND.
ITEM ONE 50, ITEM ONE 50 IS NOLL STREET CROSSING THE SITE LOCATED EAST ALONG NOLL STREET, WEST OF HOLLISTER STREET AND NORTH OF LONG POINT DRIVE IN HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RELA IS TO CREATE ONE UNRESTRICTED RESERVE AND A DRAINAGE RESERVE.
INITIALLY THE APPLICANT WAS SEEKING A VARIANCE TO PLAT A PORTION OF A DETENTION DRAINAGE RESERVE RESERVE H BLOCK ONE INTO AN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE.
THE PLAT IS A REPL OF TWO LOTS, LOTS 79 AND 80 AND A PORTION OF LOTS 78 OUT OF SPRING BRANCH GARDENS PLA THAT WAS RECORDED IN 1936 AND 0.0061 ACRES, UH, 202 6 SQUARE FEET OF DETENTION DRAINAGE RESERVE OF THE HOLLYWOOD GARDENS PARTIAL RELAID NUMBER TWO.
IN 2015 A PORTION OF A METAL SHED ENCROACHES INTO A PORTION OF THE DETENTION DRAINAGE RESERVE.
THE PROPERTY WAS DEED TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND LEGAL HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PORTION OF THE DETENTION DRAINAGE RESERVE THAT WAS DEEDED OVER TO THE OWNER CAN ONLY BE RE PLATTED INTO THE SAME TYPE OF RESERVE.
SO THE APPLICANT IS NOW REPL THE LOT INTO AN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE AND THE PORTION OF THE RESERVE AS RESTRICTED TO DRAINAGE AND DETENTION TO REMAIN AS A DETENTION AND DRAINAGE UH, RESERVE.
SO THEREFORE, A VARIANCE OF REQUESTS FROM FOUR TWO DASH 1 93 IS NO LONGER REQUIRED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CBC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
MADAM CHAIR PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM ONE 50 NOLL STREET CROSSING IS CONTINUED.
I HAVE NO ONE TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ONE 50 HEARING NO RESPONSE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION SIGLER MOTION MAD SECOND MODEST.
UH, ITEMS 1 51, 1 52 AND 1 53 HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN.
ITEM 1 54 IS SHAMROCK MANOR, PARTIAL REPL NUMBER THREE.
THE SUBJECT SIDE IS IN OVER 14,000 SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE HOUSTON CITY LIMIT SOUTH ALONG KILKENNY STREET SOUTH OF ORUM DRIVE AND EAST OF SCOTT STREET.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RELA IS TO CREATE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM AND THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THE PLAT DOES NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS MADAM CHAIR PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 54 SHAMROCK MANOR PARTIAL REPL NUMBER THREE IS OPEN.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SIGNED TO SPEAK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 54? NO QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, HEARING NO RESPONSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION MOTION CLARK SECOND CULVER COLVARD.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 1 55.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
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MANOR PARTIAL RELA NUMBER FOUR.UH, THIS IS ADJACENT TO THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN HOUSTON CITY LIMITS SOUTH OF LONG KIL KENNEY DRIVE WEST OF DONGA WAY SOUTH OF ORANGE DRIVE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RE PLAT IS TO CREATE ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
AND REVIEWED BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT DOES NOT VIOLATE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVING THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 55 SHAMROCK MANOR PARTIAL REPL NUMBER FOUR IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK EXCEPT FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, IF, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 1 55 HEARING NO RESPONSE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION POROUS PERLE VICTOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM 1 56 IS SHELBURN SHELBURNE POINT.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN HOUSTON CITY LIMITS SOUTH OF ALONG SHE BORNE STREET EAST OF LEE STREET AND NORTH OF GREENS ROAD.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RE PLAT IS CREATE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
AND REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT DOES NOT VIOLATE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVING THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 56 IS OPEN.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIRPERSON AND PLANNING COMMITTEE.
UM, I'M THE RESIDENT ON THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY AT THIS TIME.
AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE A LEFT AND A RIGHT, WHICH IS A MULTI-FAMILY DUPLEX, WHICH YOU SPLIT IN THE PROPERTY IN HALF.
IT'S MY CONCERNS IS HOW THE PROPERTY WILL BE PLACED FOR THE, UM, FOR THE BUILDER IS IF THEY'RE GONNA FACE IT OUTWARD OR INWARD.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE IT'LL TAKE AWAY MY VIEWS FROM THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND ALSO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY WALKWAYS, WHICH IS NOT A BIG CONCERN, BUT THE TWO SEPARATE FAMILY HOMES, IT'S FINE.
IT BEING, UH, SEPARATE, BUT IT'S, MY CONCERN IS JUST HOW IT'S GONNA BE PLACED.
'CAUSE ON THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT, THERE'S TWO MULTIFAMILY HOMES.
SO A ADDITIONAL HOME WOULD NOT REALLY CAUSE SO, SO MUCH OF A ISSUE.
IT'S JUST HOW THE PROPERTY WILL BE PLACED.
DO WE HAVE A SITE PLAN, MR. CRILE? NO, MA'AM, WE DON'T.
UM, IS THERE A, A 10 17 SETBACK SO IT APPEAR, GO AHEAD.
THIS, UM, A 10 17 BUILDING LINE, UM, IS DESIGNED FOR THIS HOME.
IT'S, IT COULD BE TWO FRONT LOADERS MOST LIKELY, BUT, UH, IT WOULD BE TWO SEPARATE HOMES.
IT'S HARD TO SAY WHICH WAY THEY'RE GONNA FACE, YOU WOULD ASSUME THE STREET, BUT WE, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT A SITE PLAN TO TELL YOU THAT.
NORMALLY WHEN YOU HAVE TWO BUILDING LINES LIKE THAT, ONE FOR THE, THE HOUSE AND ONE FOR THE GARAGE, YOU, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES RIGHT INTO A GARAGE IN THE FRONT.
SO THEY'D FACE SHELBURN STREET.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH BECAUSE THE PROPERTY THIS WAY FACES ME AND THE PROPERTY THIS WAY FACES US.
SO IT'S LIKE IF THEY'RE FACING OUT, WE ARE GOOD.
'CAUSE THEN OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE BACK OF A HOME AND I, I SUGGEST MAYBE MR. CRIDDLE CAN GIVE YOU THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE APPLICANT AND MAYBE YOU COULD JUST GET IN TOUCH AND ASK THEM WHAT THEIR INTENTION IS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? OKAY, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON 1 56.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON SHELBURN POINT? IF NOT THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION GARZA THERE? ILAND BUREAU, BLAND, VIRA, BLAND.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 1 57.
ITEM 1 57 IS SOUTHGATE PARTIALLY PLA NUMBER SIX, THE SIZE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF DRYDEN AND LANYARD STREETS WEST OF MAIN
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STREET IN HOUSTON.THE REASON FOR REPLIED IS TO CREATE FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
THE PLAID WAS DEFERRED AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO CONFER WITH LEGAL CONCERNING THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY DID, UM, MEET WITH LEGAL AND LEGAL HAS NOW DETERMINED THAT THIS PLAT DOES NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
THE STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS PLAT.
IF IT PLEASES COMMISSION, YOU MAY CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 57 SOUTHGATE IS, UH, CONTINUED.
MR. BONDER, ARE YOU HERE? HE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE PRESENT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON SOUTHGATE? PARTIAL REPL NUMBER SIX.
IF NOT, THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
UH, MS. FLM, UH, YOU'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL BECAUSE THEY, IT MEETS DEED RESTRICTIONS, RIGHT? YES.
BUT ON YOUR 1 0 1 FORM IT SAYS IT DOESN'T MEET IT.
SO JUST YEAH, THAT WAS A MISTAKE.
YEAH, NO, I'M JUST MAKING IT, YEAH.
AND I, I MEAN MS. WOODS CAN SPEAK ON THIS THAT I THINK THERE WAS A SENSE IT DID AND THERE WAS SOME, UH, A, A COURT JUDGMENT THAT WAS, WAS DEMONSTRATED THAT SHOWED THAT IT DOES NOT, SO RIGHT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE RECORDS CORRECT.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, DID I GET A WE DO WE, CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION CLARK? IS THERE A SECOND? ALLMAN ALLMAN.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HOUSTON CITY LIMITS, EAST OF SOUTHWEST SIDE DRIVE NORTH OF INTERSTATE 45 AND SOUTH ALONG SYLVAN ROAD.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPLAY IS TO CREATE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
UH, THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION WAS DEFERRED TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO REVISE THE DRAWING TO SHOW DEED RESTRICTED BUILDING LINES AND REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT DOES NOT VIOLATE ANY RESTRICTIONS STAFFS RECOMMENDS APPROVING THIS PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITION.
AND IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 58 SULLIVAN ESTATES HAS CONTINUED.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS SIGNED UP.
IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I HAVE NO ONE ELSE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 1 58 HEARING NO RESPONSE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION BALDWIN BALDWIN, SECOND CLARK.
ITEM 1 59 IS ANOVA, SECTION ONE.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN HARRIS COUNTY SOUTH OF ALONG FOLEY ROAD, EAST OF EAST LAKE HOUSTON DRIVE, AND WEST OF DALLAS ROAD.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REEF PLAT IS TO CREATE 98 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND FIVE RESERVES.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM AND REVIEWED BY LEGAL INDICATES THIS PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS EARLIER TODAY WITH, UM, WITH A NEARBY DEVELOPMENT SIMILAR TO THIS ONE AND YOU GUYS RECOMMENDED TO DEFER.
UH, SO JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, WE DID COORDINATE WITH LEGAL, BUT IT'D BE YOUR DECISION, UM, FOR A DEFERRAL OR APPROVAL.
BUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO APPROVE THE PLAT.
UM, IF IT PLEASE THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS TIME AND WE HAVE RECEIVED, UH, COMMENTS IN ADVANCE ON THIS ITEM.
WE DO, WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM, BUT MOST OF THEM HAVE, HAVE NOT BEEN RESPONSIVE.
BUT OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS EDWARD LENTZ.
AND MR. LENTZ, I MEANT TO ASK YOU BEFORE IF YOU COULD PROVIDE A COPY OF WHAT YOU WERE READING TO MS. WOODS AT SOME POINT.
CAN YOU JUST MAKE SURE SHE GETS THAT? GO RIGHT AHEAD.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, CLARIFY IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, UM, I THINK THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION, UH, IN SPEAKING WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT'S, UH, CAITLYN AND, AND, AND THEIR INTERPRETATION OF SECTION FIVE OF OUR DEED RESTRICTION DEED RESTRICTIONS AS TO
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THE WORDS COMMITTEE.AND THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS DO APPLY BECAUSE THIS IS A REPL I UNDERSTAND OF RESERVE A AND RESERVE D SECTION THREE, LAKE SHADOW SUBDIVISION.
UM, AND IT COMES DOWN TO THE INTERPRETATION OF THE WORD COMMITTEE.
I THINK THAT THEY'RE INTERPRETING COMMITTEE AS USED IN SECTION FIVE OF OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS TO BE AN ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE.
HOWEVER, THAT IS NOT THE CASE COMMITTEE IS THE ACTUAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE LAKE SHADOW SUBDIVISION.
IT'S NOW KNOWN AS THE LAKE SHADOW CIVIC LEAK.
SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO NEED TO ADDRESS.
WE ALSO NEED TO WORK OUT, UH, IF WE'RE GRANTED ANOTHER, GRANTED A DEFERMENT FOR THIS ITEM AS WELL.
UM, BUT THAT, THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY SECTION FIVE, PARAGRAPH THREE, UH, ONE, UH, WHICH GIVES THE COMMITTEE BEING THE CURRENT PRESENT LAKE SHADOW CIVIC LEAGUE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UH, THE RIGHT TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE OF ANY, UH, BUILDING PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS, UM, ON ANY OF THESE RESERVE A AND RESERVE D, WHICH I THINK IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE.
BUT YEAH, THIS IS A REALLY GREAT MAP.
UH, I, I THINK THIS ITEM ACTUALLY IS A PORTION OF BOTH RESERVE A AND RESERVE D UH, IN LAKE SHADOWS SECTION THREE.
SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE WHAT I JUST WANTED TO SUBMIT TO THE RECORD, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION TO EVALUATE.
AND ALSO, AGAIN, I, I DO THINK THAT, UH, CHAPTER 42 DASH 26 INTERSECTIONS, UH, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE GEOMETRIC DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE PROPOSED VIOLET THISTLE DRIVE.
UH, I KNOW WE'LL ALSO HAVE SOME RECOURSE WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE IN THE ETJ, SO WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, I'M SURE THEY'LL HEAR A LOT OF A LOT ABOUT THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT KNOWN TO THE COMMISSION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? UM, OKAY.
AND THEN I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL SHARON WORKMAN.
DID YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THIS? YES, ONE LAST TIME.
UM, THAT IS THE ROAD VIOLET THISTLE DRIVE THAT'S COMING OUT THERE ONTO THE CURB.
IT ALSO HAS A LARGE, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, SEWER PIPE THAT STICKS OUT QUITE A LARGE MO MOUND.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE.
I, I REALLY FEEL THAT THEY CAN MOVE THAT, TURN IT INTO A CIRCLE INSTEAD, THEY DON'T SACRIFICE THEIR LAND BECAUSE THEY HAVE PLENTY OF, UM, ROADS THAT ARE COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY HAVE SET ASIDE.
SO, UM, ANYHOW, AND AS IT'S BEING IN PART OF FULL, UM, LAKE SHADOWS, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AFFECTED, LIKE HE WAS SAYING, AND MAINTENANCE FEES AND SO FORTH TO APPLY TO THE COMMUNITY AND IMPROVE, UM, THE LIGHTING, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE, AS WELL AS THE FLOODING CONDITIONS THAT WE DO HAVE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE BULL DOZING OF OUR TREES.
THE, UH, THE BULL DOZING OF OUR WOOD FOR WOODS AND THE, THE REMOVAL OR TRANSFER OF ALL OF OUR WILDLIFE, WHICH I HAD MOVED OUT TO THE COUNTRY TO HAVE AND NOW IT'S GONE BULLDOZED AND THERE IS MASSIVE, MASSIVE NUMBERS OF HOUSES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE MUST BE SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL.
BUT, UM, YEAH, SO, AND LIKE I SAID, THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS ON THAT ROAD ARE QUITE EXTENSIVE AND ONE ON MONDAY THAT HEAD ON A COLLISION WITH THREE CARS INVOLVED.
SO I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THERE WILL BE A LOSS OF LIFE IF THEY HAVE A ROAD IN THAT CURVE.
UM, MADAM CHAIR? YES, COMMISSIONER BALDWIN.
NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER BALDWIN NEEDS SLEEP.
UM, WE HAVE THE, THE VERY SAME SPEAKERS SIGNED ON THIS ITEM FOR THE, THE TWO PREVIOUS THAT WE HAVE, UM, DISCUSSED.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE 'EM AGAIN ON ONE 60.
SO I'M GONNA JUST SAY, ASK, IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING OR HEAR WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 1 59? ITEM 1 59? JASON FOWL IS PRESENT.
HI, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M THE ATTORNEY AGAIN FOR, FOR THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
THIS TIES BACK INTO ITEM 1 46, WHICH YOU DEFERRED FOR A FEW WEEKS.
UM, AND, AND ONE OF THE ISSUES ON THIS IS THEY DO WANT TO DEVELOP PART OF THIS LAND FOR RESIDENTIAL, WHICH MEANS YOU WOULD HAVE, THESE RESTRICTIONS WOULD APPLY TO THOSE HOMES FOR SURE, BECAUSE AFTER TALKING TO DEVELOPER YESTERDAY, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LITTLE SLIVER, BUT THEY DO WANT TO PUT
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HOMES ON.SO WE, WE WOULD HAVE AN OVERLAY OF TWO DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS.
UM, SO I THINK WE NEED TIME TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
UM, BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE RE PLATA DOESN'T MAKE THESE RESTRICTIONS GO AWAY, THE EXISTING ONES GO AWAY.
UM, SO AGAIN, UH, FOLLOWING UP, MR. LEN SAID THAT WE NEED, WE NEED TIME TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THIS AND GET SOME, SOME CLARITY ON HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PART THAT WILL BE RESIDENTIAL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. FOWL? WE HAVE A QUESTION OR A COMMENT FROM OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, MS. MS. WOODS? SO IN ALL FAIRNESS, I'M LOOKING AT THESE RESTRICTIONS AND IT JUST CAUGHT ME UNAWARES BECAUSE REALLY WITH THESE TWO, UM, BOTH ANOVA, SECTION ONE AND THE NEXT ONE, I DID NOT, I JUST CONNECTED THAT THIS IS OUT OF LAKE SHADOWS, LIKE THE EAST LAKE HOUSTON ONE, AND WITH ALL THREE OF THEM, OUR TITLE WORK ACTUALLY CAME BACK THAT THERE WERE NO RESTRICTIONS.
MS. PO FLYNN SENT ME THE RESTRICTIONS FOR THE EAST LAKE HOUSTON ONES YESTERDAY, AND I WAS ABLE TO REVIEW AND GET WITH OUR TITLE TEAM TO ASK, DOES, DOES THIS APPLY? AND WHY WEREN'T THEY GIVEN TO ME? NOW THAT I'M SEEING THIS WITH THESE TWO SONOVA PROPERTIES, I NEED TO REVIEW BOTH OF THEM, UH, IN LIGHT OF THESE RESTRICTIONS THAT, THAT I NOW REALIZE APPLIES TO THESE TWO PROPERTIES TOO.
SO YOU WOULD APPRECIATE A LEGAL, A DEFERRAL ON THIS ITEM AS WELL? YES.
UM, THANK YOU MR. F I'M GONNA CALL, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK THIS TIME ON 1 59? UM, WITH THAT, I'LL TURN TO THE COMMISSION AND SEE IF THERE'S DISCUSSION.
I THINK WE MIGHT LOOK AT A MOTION TO DEFER AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO DEFER AND CONTINUE THE POST HEARING.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS CONTINUED.
MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE TO LEAVE THE MEETING.
NOTE COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER TAHIR MUST LEAVE.
WE'RE STILL GOOD? WE'RE STILL GOOD ON QUORUM.
ITEM ONE 60 IS ANOVA SECTION FIVE.
THIS IS JUST EAST OF THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
UH, THE SITE'S LOCATED IN HARRIS COUNTY SOUTH ALONG FRY ROAD AND EAST OF PROPOSED, UH, EAST LAKE HOUSTON DRIVE.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS RELA IS TO CREATE 118 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS IN ONE RESERVE.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A VARIANCE QUEST TO NOT EXTEND NORTH TERMINATE STUBB STREET WITH THE CUL-DE-SAC.
UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE APPLICATION PER HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEERING RELATED TO THE STUB STREET.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, WE'VE RECEIVED, RECEIVED ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
UM, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM ONE 60, SUNNOVA, SECTION FIVE IS OPEN.
MR. LENTZ, DO YOU WANNA DEFER PENDING DEFERRAL OR DO YOU WANNA SPEAK? IT'S DEFER.
I DON'T WANNA MESS THAT UP, SO,
AND HOW ABOUT YOU? UH, SHARON WORKMAN.
MR. FLL, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK? UH, DEFERRAL ALSO.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM ONE 60? SONOVA SECTION FIVE.
UH, IF NOT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ROBINS ROBINS SECOND POROUS PERLE.
SHE WAS LOOKING LIKE SHE WANTED TO SECOND.
ITEM 1 61 IS VETERANS MEMORIAL BUSINESS PARK.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS A 34 AND A HALF ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE HARRIS COUNTY, ETJ EAST ALONG VETERANS MEMORIAL DRIVE AND NORTH OF FALLBROOK DRIVE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REPL IS TO CREATE AN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE INTENDED FOR WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION USE, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO EXCEED INTERSECTION SPACING BY NOT PROVID, BY NOT EXTENDING NOR TERMINATING IN A CUL-DE-SAC.
THE SUBST STREETS OF LAND ENTRYWAY AND SUMMERBROOK DRIVE STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUESTED VARIANCE.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THE PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE FACT OF THOSE FILED SEPARATELY SAVED FOR A PROPOSED 10 FOOT BUILDING LINE ALONG RUE ELLEN COURT, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO KEEP THE 20 FOOT BUILDING LINE PER THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME ADVANCED COMMENTS REGARDING THE, UH, REGARDING
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THE PLAT OVER COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC FLOODING DUE TO BUILD OUT AND POTENTIAL TAKING OF PROPERTY.THE APPLICATION IS NOT TAKING ANY PROPERTY FROM THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISION SAVED FOR THE INCLUSION OF RESERVE G OF FALLBROOK SECTION THREE NOW WITHIN THE PLAT BOUNDARY, THE APPLICATION WAS PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED WITH THE INTENT TO TAKE ACCESS VIA ACCESS EASEMENT THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH RESERVE G.
HOWEVER, RESERVE G IS NOW BEING INCLUDED AS PART OF THE PLAT, AND THE PLAT IS SUBMITTING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
TO THE IMMEDIATE NORTH OF THE SITE IS THE VETERANS MEMORIAL CEMETERY, WHICH WOULD HINDER ANY EXTENSION OF A SUB STREETS PAST THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.
TRAFFIC FROM THE COMMERCIAL SITE WOULD ALSO BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH TO ENSURE THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC WILL NOT ENTER ANY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ACCESS TO FOR THE SITE WILL BE STRICTLY TAKEN OFF OF VETERAN'S MEMORIAL DRIVE AND MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND ACCESS TO LAND TREE WAY AND SUMMERBROOK DRIVE.
THE SUBSTRATE ARE RESTRICTED TO FIRE SAFETY AND MAINTENANCE WITH A KNOCK BOX AT EACH GATE.
WE ALSO HAVE A LETTER TO SUPPORT THE VARIANCE FROM THE FALLBROOK CIVIC CLUB.
HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEER HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE REQUESTED VARIANCE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THROUGH REQUESTED VARIANCE AND APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CPC 1 0 1 FORM.
CONDITIONS MADAM CHAIR WILL PLEASE THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 61 VETERANS MEMORIAL BUSINESS PARK IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK EXCEPT FOR THE APPLICANT WHO IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 61? HEARING NO RESPONSE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN? IS THERE DISCUSSION? A QUICK QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENTS? SURE.
UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT A RETAINING WALL, UM, WHETHER THERE WOULD BE A RETAINING WALL, UH, WE CAN RE I'LL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT AS PER THEIR SITE PLAN.
WE'LL ASK MR. BTE TO COME FORWARD.
HI, EVENING, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS PLANNING COMMISSION.
JEFF BTE WITH WINDROW LAND SERVICES.
UM, I'M HERE TO SAY WE'RE THE SURVEYOR ON THE, ON THE, UH, APPLICATION, BUT JACK SCHU WITH IDV IS HERE TO ANSWER THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION.
COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
UM, AND THE RETAINING WALL QUESTION, WAS THERE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT OR CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT THAT QUESTION WAS? THANK YOU.
LET ME FIND MY LITTLE, MY PLACE AGAIN.
I GUESS THE, THE SHORT ANSWER IS THERE, THERE'S NO RETAINING WALLS ON, ON, ON THE PROJECT.
I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION FULLY.
UM, SO ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WAS ASKING WHETHER THERE WOULD BE, BUT, UM, I, IT SAYS ON THE PLAT PROPOSAL I RECEIVED, IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER A RETAINING WALL WILL BE BUILT BEHIND MY PROPERTY LINE AND OR IF THIS IS A TRAFFIC RIGHT OF WAY DUE TO PARKING LOT PROPOSAL IN FRONT LOAD NUMBER TWO.
I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE EITHER.
I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH RAISING.
UH, I WAS GONNA SAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS ONE OF THE RECORDS.
MR. CILLO SPEAKING THE MIC, PLEASE.
IT, IT SOUNDS AS THE, UH, THE PERSON IS A RESIDENT IN THE SUBDIVISION OF THE SOUTH AND THEIR PROPERTY BACKS UP TO THE, TO THE, THE SITE, UH, CONCERNING THERE IS A FIRE LANE SHOWING ALONG THAT SOUTHERN BOUNDARY.
THERE'S A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE, UH, SPACE THERE AS WELL.
BUT AS FAR AS TO ANY WALL STRUCTURE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ATTENTION, UH, IF IT'S NEEDED, UM, IT'LL CERTAINLY BE THERE.
BUT, UM, THE, THE SITE'S RELATIVELY FLAT.
UM, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THE NEED FOR RETAINING WALL WOULD BE.
I THINK IT'S MORE, BUT THERE IS A LANDSCAPE VARIANCE THERE.
I MEAN THE LANDSCAPE, YEAH, THERE'S 10, UH, 10 FEET OF GREEN SPACE THERE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? FENCE WOULD BE, UM, THERE'S ALREADY A RESIDENTIAL.
DO WE HAVE OTHER, WE ARE GONNA, ARE YOU GUYS DONE
UNLESS YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY.
SO IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, OKAY, WE'LL GO.
WE, DID WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I GUESS WE DID NOT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 61? IF NOT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
AND I THINK I DID THIS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN TO GRANT AND APPROVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION MANKA MANKA SECOND ALLMAN.
[d. Subdivision Plats with Variance Requests (Arum Lee, Aracely Rodriguez, John Cedillo, Petra Hsia, Tammi Williamson, Geoff Butler)]
THAT TAKES US TO VARIANCES.AND OUR FIRST ITEM, 1 62 BRICK YARD HAS BEEN, UM, WITHDRAWN.
ITEM 1 63 IS EAST RIVER SECTION ONE PARTIAL REPL NUMBER TWO.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN HOUSTON'S CORPORATE LIMIT NORTH OF THE BUFFALO BIO SOUTH
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OF CLINTON DRIVE IN EAST OF JENSEN.THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TWO RESERVES AND IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A ZERO FOOT BUILDING LINE ALONG RIVER B DRIVE FOR A PROPOSED SKYBRIDGE.
THE SKYBRIDGE WILL CONNECT THE PARKING GARAGE TO AN OFFICE BUILDING.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING DEFERRAL TO ALLOW TIME TO CONTINUE COORDINATING WITH HOUSTON PUBLIC WORKS TO MAKE REVISIONS TO THE PROPOSED PLANS TO MEET IDM STANDARDS.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER TO THE PLAT PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BUTLER? I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED ON THIS.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST WANTED TO NOTE MY, UM, ABSTENTION ON THIS ITEM.
NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER, UH, SIGLER ABSTAINS ON THIS ITEM.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? I MEAN A MOTION TO DEFER.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES WITH COMMISSIONER SIGLER ABSTAINING.
ITEM 1 64 IS LANGHAM CREEK UTILITY DISTRICT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE ETJ SOUTH OF LANGHAM CREEK, NORTH OF WEST LITTLE YORK, IN WEST OF QUEENSTOWN.
THE PPLICANT IS PROPOSING ONE RESERVE RESTRICTED TO A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO NOT EXTEND, UH, HAD A GLEN DRIVE, NOR TERMINATE IT WITH A CUL-DE-SAC AND TO ALLOW THE RESERVE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE FRONTAGE AND ACCESS ON THIS SUBSTRATE.
STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE SITE IS IN AN EXISTING WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR THE PAST 40 YEARS AND IS CURRENTLY OPERATED BY LANGHAM CREEK UTILITY DISTRICT.
THE UTILITY DISTRICT IS PLANNING TO DO SOME REHABILITATION WORK ON THE SITE, TRIGGERING THE REQUIREMENT TO PLAT A VARIANCE IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE ESTABLISHED ACCESS TO THE SITE.
HARRIS COUNTY'S EXPRESS, EXCUSE ME, HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST TO KEEP THE EXISTING ACCESS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
WE'VE RECEIVED NO ADVANCE WRITTEN COMMENT IN THIS ITEM.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
QUESTIONS FOR MR. BUTLER? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 64.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION MOTION? AMANDA PA MANKA.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 1 65 AND 1 66 PLEASE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT 65 66 TOGETHER PLEASE.
THE ITEMS ARE NORTH PARK, SOUTH GP, AND NORTH PARK SOUTH OF SECTION ONE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS AN OVER 50 ACRE GENERAL PLAN AND A 34 ACRE SECTION LOCATED IN THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY, EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION WEST, ALONG THE INTERSECTION OF SORTERS, MCCLELLAN ROAD AND NORTH PARK DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL GENERAL PLAN AND IS REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES OVERALL.
ONE TO EXCEED INTERSECTION SPACING BY NOT PROVO PRO, NOT PROVIDING AN EAST WEST STREET THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
AND TWO, TO EXCEED INTERSECTION SPACING BY NOT PROVIDING A SOUTHERN STU THROUGH THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY.
AND VARIANCE THREE, WHICH IS SOLELY APPLIED TO SECTION ONE, IS TO ALLOW LOTS TO HAVE LESS THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET IN THE ETJ, ALLOWING THE COS REQUIREMENTS OR COMPENSATING OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH SECTIONS ONE AND TWO TO BE SOLELY FULFILLED WITHIN SECTION TWO.
THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS THAT THE GP WOULD ONLY BE MADE UP OF THE TWO SECTIONS WITH AN O WITH A LARGE DRAINAGE OUTFALL CHANNEL TO THE NORTH AND THE SAN JACINTO RIVER.
MONTGOMERY COUNTY PRECINCT FOUR IS REQUESTING MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE PLAT AND THE VARIANCES.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE PLAT FOR THREE WEEKS PER MONTGOMERY COUNTY TO ALLOW FURTHER STUDY AND REVIEW.
MADAM CHAIR, THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CILLO? UM, STA DO WE HAVE ANY, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER BOTH ITEMS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? AND SINCE THAT'LL BE THE ONLY DEFERRAL, ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE FOR THE THREE WEEK PERIOD? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER ITEMS 1 65 AND 1 66.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM 1 67 IS NORTHWEST 99 BUSINESS PARK GP.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HOUSTON ETJ IN HARRIS COUNTY, SOUTHEAST OF GRAND PARKWAY AND MUSH WEST OF MUSHIE ROAD AND NORTH OF THE PROPOSED JERGEN ROAD, NORTHWEST 99 BUSINESS PARK GP IS A PROPOSED 196 ACRE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES.
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ONE IS TO EXCEED INTERSECTION, 1400 FEET INTERSECTION SPACING ALONG A LOCAL COLLECTOR STREET TO ALLOW AN INTERSECTION SPACING OF 2000 FEET BETWEEN GRAND PARKWAY AND THE PROPOSED STUBB STREET GOING TOWARDS THE WEST.AND TWO IS TO EXCEED THE 2,600 FOOT INTERSECTION SPACING ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND ALLOW AN INTERSECTION SPACING OF 3,150 FEET BETWEEN GRAND PARKWAY.
AND THE PROPOSED INTERNAL COLLECTOR STREET STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF BOTH REQUESTS.
THE SITE IS ENCUMBERED BY A FLOODWAY FLOODPLAINS DRAINAGE WEIGHS, AND AN 80 FOOT HLMP EASEMENT THAT BISECTS THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALSO RUNS INTO THE PROPERTY JUST NORTH OF THE PANHANDLE PORTION OF THE GP.
A NORTH SOUTH STREET IS REQUIRED ALONG THE PANHANDLE, HOWEVER, DUE TO THE ENCUMBRANCES, IT IS UNLIKELY A STREET WOULD EXTEND THROUGH A STUB STREET IS PROVIDED ALONG THE PROPOSED COLLECTOR STREET GOING TOWARDS THE WEST WITH AN EXCESSIVE INTERSECTION SPACING OF 2000 FEET.
THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE STUBS STREET PROVIDES DISTANCE FROM THE HLMP EASEMENT CROSSING THROUGH THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
HARRIS COUNTY HAS NO OBJECTIONS.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE REQUESTED VARIANCES AND APPROVE THE GP.
SUBJECT TO THE CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS, STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS.
UM, AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM MS. SHAW? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
I DON'T THINK WE, UH, HAVE SPEAKERS.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE VARIANCE AND APPROVES, UH, WHICH IS ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION? AMANDA PCCA.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 1 68.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN HOUSTON'S ECJ IN HARRIS COUNTY WEST AND ALONG GOSLING ROAD, NORTH OF THE GRAND PARKWAY AND SOUTH OF WILLOW CREEK AND WEST RAYFORD ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING ONE UNRESTRICTED RESERVE AND IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO EXCEED INTERSECTION SPACING ALONG GOSLING ROAD.
BY NOT EXTENDING ELM GROVE ROAD, NOR TERMINATE IN A CUL-DE-SAC STAFF RECOMMENDS TO GRANT THE REQUEST.
THE AREA WITHIN THE PLAT BOUNDARY IS A COLLECTION OF ACREAGE TRACKS.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS INTENDED FOR A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE CURRENT INTERSECTION SPACING ALONG GOSLING ROAD FROM ROOT ROAD TO THE NEXT NEAREST EAST WEST THROUGH STREET IS DOVER SHORE ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WILLOW CREEK FOR A DISTANCE OF APPROXIMATELY 6,700 FEET.
THE NORTH HAMPTON GENERAL PLAN WAS APPROVED IN 1967 WITH MULTIPLE STUB STREETS ON ALL SIDES OF THE DEVELOPMENT DUE TO ITS PLACEMENT MIDBLOCK ALONG ROUTE ROAD OVER TIME, THE NORTH HAMPTON SECTIONS WERE RECORDED.
IN ADDITION TO OTHER DEVELOP RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS CONNECTING TO SEVERAL OF THE STUBB STREETS, ELM GROVE ROAD WAS PLATTED WITH THE NORTH HAMPTON SECTION TWO SUBDIVISION IN 1969 AND WAS EXTENDED VIA THE MIDDLEBROOKS PLACE SUBDIVISION 1974.
THE LENGTH OF ELM ROAD GROVE FROM ELMWOOD COURT TO THE PLAT BOUNDARY IS APPROXIMATELY 360 FEET WITH FIVE HOMES TAKING DIRECT VEHICULAR ACCESS, THE PLAT APPLICATION TO THE SOUTH WAS GRANTED VARIANCES NOT TO EXTEND TO LOWER STU STREETS IN 2019 AND 2020.
ELM GROVE ROAD AND NWAY COURT ARE THE TWO REMAINING STUBB STREETS SOUTH OF DOVER SHERE HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT'S.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY'S REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO NOT EXTEND ELM GROVE ROAD TO GOSLING ROAD.
STAFF SUPPORTS HARRIS COUNTY'S RECOMMENDATION, ESPECIALLY FOR THE REQUIREMENT FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FROM THE STUB END OF ELM GROVE ROAD.
THERE ARE THREE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, ELEMENTARY, INTERMEDIATE, AND HIGH.
AND THE KLEIN ISD NORTHCREST AGRISCIENCE FACILITY IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE NORTHAMPTON AREA, ALLOWING FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WILL BENEFIT PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.
NOT ONLY FOR THE STUDENTS WHO WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO WALK OR CYCLE TO THE SCHOOLS, LIKE STUDENTS FROM NORTHAMPTON NEIGHBORHOOD DUE TODAY, BUT ALSO THE EDUCATORS AND SUPPORT STAFF WOULD BE PERMITTED THE OPTION TO CHOOSE THEIR MODE OF TRANSIT.
DENYING THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO PUBLICLY DEDICATED STREETS WOULD ISOLATE THE FUTURE RESIDENTS AND FORCE ALL MOVEMENT TO BE ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE WITH INCREASED SPEEDS AND NO SIDEWALKS LIMITING EVEN SHORT DISTANCE TRIPS TO PERSONAL VEHICLES OR UNSAFE CONDITIONS BY FOOT OR BICYCLE.
GOSLING ROAD IS A MA IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE FOUR LANE WITHOUT SIDEWALKS WITH A POSTED SPEED LIMIT OF 45 MILES PER HOUR INSTEAD OF THE 20 MILES PER HOUR.
POSTED SPEED LIMIT ALONG NORTHWEST DRIVE ALLOWING FOR ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION CAN HELP TO ALLEVIATE VEHICULAR CONGESTION FOR ALL RESIDENTS WHO WOULD CHOOSE TO WALK OR CYCLE.
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A MEANS TO USE THE RESIDENTIAL PUBLIC STREETS IS A SAFER OPTION.THEREFORE, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE REQUESTED VARIANCE AND APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AT THE STUBB END OF ELM GROVE ROAD.
THIS ITEM HAD BEEN DEFERRED PREVIOUSLY TWICE.
WHILE WE COORDINATED WITH HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEERING AND OUR CHIEF TRANSPORTATION OFFICER AND STAFF.
UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS EMAILS FROM THE RESIDENTS OF NORTHAMPTON SUBDIVISION WHO SUPPORT THE VANCE REQUEST OPPOSING THE STREET CONNECTION THROUGH TO GOSLING WITH CONCERNS PRIMARILY ABOUT CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, SAFE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC AND SAFETY.
AND THEY ALSO NOW OPPOSE, UM, ANY CONNECTION FROM ELK GROVE DRIVE ROAD.
HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEERING HAD PREVIOUSLY STATED THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS WAS REQUIRED FROM THE STUBB STREET, BUT THIS IS NO LONGER THE CASE.
AND THIS CONCLUDES STOP SPRINGS STATION.
DOES HARRIS COUNTY AGREE WITH THE, UM, CONDITION TO HAVE A, UM, PEDESTRIAN? YES, MA'AM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. WILLIAMSON? OKAY.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
UM, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS DOMINIQUE.
YOU DON'T WANNA SPEAK SECOND? OKAY.
I JUST CALLING HIM IN THE ORDER.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU THAYER BENSON? I'M THEOR BENSON.
THANKS FOR YOUR LONGEVITY HERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY, WHICH JUST CAME UP.
UH, I'M A RESIDENT OF NORTH HAMPTON, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 50 YEARS PLUS.
UM, WE CERTAINLY, UH, OPPOSE, UH, AND APPRECIATE, UH, THE VARIANCE.
UH, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE THROUGH TRAFFIC.
THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM ON GOSLING FOR THAT.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE PEDESTRIAN PART.
I, I'M A GREAT ADVOCATE OF EXACTLY THAT POINT.
UH, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, HAVING MY OWN CHILDREN, UH, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S UNSAFE NOW.
UM, MY CHILDREN RUN FOR THE CROSS COUNTRY TEAM, UH, WHICH IS KLEIN OAK, RIGHT ACROSS THE, UH, WAY.
SO YOU REFERENCE KLEIN OAK HILDEBRAND.
IT IS COMPLETELY UNSAFE, UH, RIGHT NOW FOR STUDENTS TO EVEN CROSS THERE.
THERE'S ACCIDENTS DAY AFTER DAY, THERE'S NO, UM, PATHWAY, YOU KNOW, CROSSWALKS OR ANYTHING.
SO TO THEN STATE THAT THAT'S A GOOD ARGUMENT.
IT'S NOT, IT'S COMPLETELY UNSAFE.
UH, STUDENTS, UH, RISK GETTING HIT EVERY SINGLE DAY, WALKING OR RIDING.
THERE ARE NO TO SAY THAT IT'S SAFER AND THERE'S ACCESS.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CHILDREN GET HIT.
EARLIER WE HEARD FROM ANOTHER, UH, COMMUNITY STATING IT'S UNSAFE TO HAVE PEOPLE WALK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, YOU'RE INTRODUCING A STREET THAT CURRENTLY HAS 25 RESIDENTS WITH ANOTHER 940 RESIDENTS.
IF, IF THERE WAS EMPATHY IN THAT PREVIOUS SITUATION, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE EMPATHY IN THIS ONE.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT'S ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS.
KIDS ARE GETTING CLOSE TO BEING HIT.
SO TO ADD ANOTHER 940 RESIDENTS ACCESS, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT, BUT IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
AND I PRAY, I HOPE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE RISK THAT YOU'RE INVITING PEOPLE INTO IF YOU ALLOW FOR IT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, SARAH, BACK, BACK.
AND I WOULD ECHO PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY ALL OF THOSE SAME CONCERNS AND UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 900, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 940 UNITS, NOT 940 PEOPLE.
AND, AND I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE 3000 PEOPLE POSSIBLY.
AND ALSO THERE'S RETAIL THERE.
SO YOU'RE INVITING AN OPEN DOOR BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND 3000 PEOPLE.
AND IF YOU THINK THAT A GATE CODE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE KEPT SECRET AMONGST 3000 PEOPLE, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY ASININE.
AND YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE HUNDREDS OF KIDS CROSSING NORTH CREST, FOUR LANES, NO SIDEWALKS, AND WALKING A MILE TO SCHOOL, SIX BLOCKS AT LEAST, DEPENDING ON WHAT SCHOOL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO, I MEAN, OUR REQUEST IS TO GRANT THE VARIANCE WITH NO CONDITIONS LIKE THIS.
I MEAN, IT, IT, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME AT ALL.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD, I KNOW OF AT LEAST ONE INCIDENT, I THINK IT WAS BACK IN LIKE FEBRUARY OF 2023, WHERE WE HAD A STUDENT HIT.
THANK GOODNESS THEY WENT TO THE HOSPITAL AND WERE OKAY IN THE END.
BUT THIS IS JUST GONNA INVITE AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE.
AND IT, IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST WHAT IT'S INTENDED TO DO.
AND ALSO CLIENT ISD IS REZONING THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY
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I THINK THEIR ELEMENTARY AND INTERMEDIATE SCHOOLS.SO THESE CHILDREN OVER HERE AT PARAGON PLACE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE ZONED TO OUR SCHOOLS.
IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET, I THINK TO MCKENZIE PARK, THEY'RE ZONED FOR KLEIN COLLINS.
SO THE, THE POINT OF THIS MIGHT END UP BEING MOOT.
I WILL SAY PARAGON DOES HAVE A VISION OF TRYING TO CONNECT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND WANTING US TO GO OVER THERE AND DO THEIR RETAIL STUFF AND ALL THAT.
THAT'S NOT OUR VISION BY AND LARGE WITH THE NORTH HAMPTON COMMUNITY.
AND I WOULD JUST KINDLY ASK THAT, THAT THIS COMMISSION GRANT THE VARIANCE WITHOUT THIS HORRIBLE CONDITION THAT WILL HARM OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS, UM, CAMDEN CONAWAY.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE CAMDEN DOOR.
ARE YOU CAMDEN CONWAY? YES, I AM.
WHO'S CAMDEN? DOOR SPEAKING? GO AHEAD.
UH, I AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THEY'VE SAID, AND IT'S JUST SO AMAZING TO ME THAT THIS THING IS SO LARGE.
THEY'VE GOT FOUR STORY APARTMENTS, THREE STORY APARTMENTS, ALL SORTS OF STUFF TO GO WITH IT AND MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
IT'S GONNA MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
EXCEPT FOR ORIGINALLY THEY WANTED TO HAVE AN AMBULANCE GATE AND A SCHOOL GATE SO THEY COULD GET IN THIS WAY.
AND THAT WAY THEY THINK THEY CAN DO IT ALL THROUGH ONE GATE NOW, WHICH NOBODY WANTS ANYBODY IN THERE THAT'S, THERE'S NO REASON FOR 'EM TO BE THERE.
AND I HAVE, I HAVE NO, THE ONLY THING IS, IS I THINK THE CITY PLANNERS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THE PERSON IS THAT REVIEWS PRINTS, BUT WHOEVER SITS THERE WITH THIS GUY AND THE GUY'S TELLING 'EM WHAT'S GOING TO, WHAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE, AND TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A WAY FOR THAT, FOR THE BUSES TO GET IN AND OUT, AMBULANCES TO GET IN AND OUT.
AND IF THEY CAN'T GET ENOUGH LAND TO DO IT AND ENOUGH ACCESS BECAUSE THEY KEEP POKING NEW HOLES IN THE STREET, THEN THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM, NOT MINE.
AND I CAN'T, I CAN'T FORESEE ANY JUSTIFICATION OR DEPRECIATION THAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE ON THIS POOR STREET I LIVE ON.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S, HE'S BEEN PAYING A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND THERE TRYING TO FIX THEIR HOUSES UP TO THE, THE GUY HAS.
SO HE'S NOT AS CLEAN AS HE NEEDS TO BE.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS TRACY CHENERY.
MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER KANE.
I'M GONNA NEED TO LEAVE THE MEETING.
UH, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO JUST REPEAT EVERYTHING THEY'VE SAID.
I DO LIVE IN NORTHAMPTON, AND I CAN TELL YOU, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO VIDEOTAPE IT.
THERE IS NO ONE THAT LIVES IN NORTHAMPTON THAT LETS THEIR CHILDREN WALK DOWN NORTHCREST DRIVE, WHICH IS A FOUR LANE COUNTY ROAD, WHICH BY THE WAY, WE HAVE, WHICH IS PART OF OUR HOA, WHICH WE PAY FOR WITH OUR DUES, A A MEDIAN SECTION THAT, THAT OUR DUES PAY PAYS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
NO ONE IN NORTH HAMPTON LETS THEIR CHILDREN WALK TO SCHOOL.
AND THE IDEA THAT SOMEBODY ALL THE WAY OVER FROM GOSLING IS GONNA CUT THROUGH OUR MEDIAN 500, $600,000 HOMES AND WALK DOWN A FAR LANE HIGHWAY.
WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE NO, UM, CROSSWALKS.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO STOP SIGNS ALONG THE WHOLE STRETCH OF ROAD THERE.
SO, SO THEY'RE GONNA BE WALKING ACROSS RESIDENCE LAWNS OR THEY'RE GONNA BE WALKING IN THE STREETS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED.
SO, SO, SO WHOMEVER FROM PLANNING OR WHOEVER DECIDES YEAH, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA, CLEARLY HAS NOT GONE THERE AND SEEN THE SITUATION.
EVEN IF THEY GET THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS IN, IF THEY GET THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO ROUTE ROAD, THEY THEN HAVE TO CROSS ROUTE ROAD AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS, IF THEY'RE GOING TO, TO ANY OF THE SCHOOLS OTHER THAN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
TO GET TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THEY HAVE TO WALK ALONG ROOT ROAD AND, AND, AND THERE'S EITHER A RAILROAD TRACK ON ONE SIDE OF IT OR A GIANT V DITCH ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THERE'S LITERALLY NOWHERE FOR AN ADULT, MUCH LESS A CHILD TO WALK ALONG ROOT ROAD FROM NORTHCREST TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
IT, IT, IT'S, IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE.
IT, IT, IT, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
AND YOU HAVE A PEOPLE GATE COMING FROM A RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL, UH, THING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
I LIVE AT 6,003 ELM GROVE, WHICH
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IS THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO WHERE THESE GATES ARE GONNA BE LOCATED.I HAVE A 5-YEAR-OLD AND A 2-YEAR-OLD, AND JUST ALLOWING 3000 PLUS PEOPLE ACCESS TO MY FRONT YARD MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.
UM, IT'S MY JOB TO PROTECT MY FAMILY AND IF YOU, YOU ALLOW THAT, THEN THERE'S GONNA BE CRIME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M GONNA BE THE FIRST PERSON, UM, THAT THEY CAN COME TO.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN HAVE A PEDESTRIAN GATE RIGHT ON MY FRONT YARD.
AND I'M NO LONGER GONNA BE ABLE TO PARK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AT ALL IF THERE IS A EMERGENCY GATE THERE AS WELL, BECAUSE OUR ROADS ARE EXTREMELY SMALL.
UM, AND, AND IT'S HARD TO FIT A VEHICLE IN BETWEEN WHEN BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET HAVE A, HAVE A VEHICLE.
AND I JUST WANNA REITERATE THE CRIME.
UH, WE HAVE 3000 PLUS PEOPLE THAT ARE POTENTIALLY COMING IN MY BACKYARD AND I HAVE A 5-YEAR-OLD AND A 2-YEAR-OLD, AND PROBABLY MORE ON THE WAY.
AND I HOPE YOU GUYS DON'T ALLOW ANY KINDS OF GATES.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT, UM, SO THERE'S MY HOUSE, BUT THE PLA AND THE PLAN THAT YOU GUYS ARE SEEING THAT IS NOT, WE'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITHIN 15, 20 FEET OF MY HOUSE.
SO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE, WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING IS ISN'T ACCURATE IN TERMS OF THAT.
UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S MY FRONT YARD.
UH, IF YOU WANNA ALLOW 3000 PLUS PEOPLE IN MY FRONT YARD, THEN, THEN, SO BE IT.
UM, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNIFER WIL PITTS.
I AM ALSO AN, UH, RESIDENT OF NORTH HAMPTON.
I AM GLAD THAT THE VARIANCE IS NOT ALLOWING FOR TRAFFIC OR THE CONNECTION OR EVEN THE EMERGENCY GATE.
WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE INCREASED, UM, TRAFFIC.
AND I WOULD REITERATE THAT IT IS NOT SAFE NOW AND WE DON'T NEED 3000 MORE PEOPLE WALKING OR DRIVING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE ROADS THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE ON ROUTE ROAD DID, DOES NOT HAVE ANY SHOULDERS.
AND THE, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ANYWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE ARE NO CROSSWALKS ANYWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'VE RECENTLY HAD A FLASHING POLICE SIGN PLACED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD RE SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD REALIZE, HEY, IT'S 20 MILES AN HOUR, IT'S GOT FLASHING LIGHTS, AND PEOPLE STILL DID NOT SLOW DOWN.
YES, IT'S 20 MILES AN HOUR IN NORTH CREST, BUT THEY DON'T DRIVE ANY SLOWER THAN THEY DO ON ON GOSLING.
WE ALREADY HAVE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC, AND THE KIDS ARE NOT SAFE.
SO YOU CANNOT SAY THAT THE TRAFFIC WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
AND YOU CANNOT SAY THAT WALKING TO SCHOOL WOULD BENEFIT THESE KIDS.
IT IS 1.2 MILES TO THE CLOSEST SCHOOL ACROSS SEVERAL LARGE ROADS WITH NO SIDEWALKS, NO SHOULDERS, AND NO CROSSWALKS.
THIS IS NOT SAFE AND IT DOES NOT BENEFIT ANYBODY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING WITH US.
UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MANDY, UH, DELEON.
HI, UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN GO RIGHT AHEAD.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AT SUCH A LATE HOUR.
UM, I AM A RESIDENCE OF NORTHAMPTON AND, UH, I DO LIVE ON THE BLOCK OF ELM GROVE THAT EVERYONE IS REFERRING TO DOWN THE STREET FROM THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN WHO WAS SAYING THAT THAT 3000 PEOPLE WOULD BE IN HIS FRONT YARD.
AND I'M ALSO, UH, UH, VOICING MY OPPOSITION TO THE GATE OR ANY KIND OF OPENING AT THE END OF THE STREET.
UM, AS YOU HEARD THE RES THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN HERE 50 YEARS.
UM, IT'S KIND OF A SHOCK TO HAVE MOVED HERE AND LIVE HERE TWO YEARS AND THEN FIND OUT, OH, WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP THIS STREET ALL THE WAY TO GOSLING.
IT'S A VERY QUIET DEAD END STREET RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ELDERLY PEOPLE ON THIS STREET, A COUPLE OF WHICH I'VE SEEN ARE DISABLED.
AND THE THOUGHT OF, UM, HAVING, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN OF ALL AGES OR, AND WHO KNOWS, MAYBE SOME ADULTS TOO, JUST STROLLING DOWN OUR STREET TO, TO GET TO A SCHOOL OR WHATEVER DOESN'T APPEAL.
UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY, UM, UPSETTING.
UH, AND, UH, NOW MY, MY 90-YEAR-OLD MOTHER IS ONE OF THESE ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT LIVES HERE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF CARS PARKED IN THE STREET.
AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT ANY OTHER KIND OF TRAFFIC THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY THINGS DISCUSSED ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND GARBAGE TRUCKS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL, AND I WANT TO REITERATE EVERYTHING THAT THESE PREVIOUS PEOPLE HAVE SAID ABOUT THE CHILDREN WALKING TO SCHOOL.
I MYSELF WALK DOWN NORTHCREST TO GO TO THE CAR.
UH, MY CAR MECHANIC, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.
NOBODY FOLLOWS THE 20 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT.
AND WHEN YOU GET TO ROUTE, LIKE THEY SAID, IT'S SO DANGEROUS,
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A DITCH ON ONE SIDE, A RAILROAD TRACK, NO SHOULDERS.HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD A CHILD WALK TO SCHOOL? IT'S RIDICULOUS.
THANK YOU FOR, FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
UM, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOE KOECK.
K-O-R-E-N-E-C, OR NEK MR. KOECK NEK.
YES, MADAM CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.
I'M ALSO A NORTH HAMPTON RESIDENT AND I WON'T REPEAT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID, BUT I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH JUST ABOUT ALL THE COMMENTS.
THE ONLY TWO THINGS I WOULD POINT OUT IS THE, UH, THE YELLOW DOTTED PATH ALONG ELM GROVE AND DOWN NORTH CRESS OR PINE KNOT TO NORTH HAMPTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AGAIN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A WALK FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS.
KINDERGARTEN TO FIFTH GRADE, KINDERGARTNERS TO FIFTH GRADERS ARE NOT GONNA BE DOING THAT WALK TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THAT'S JUST ONE, IT'S NOT SAFE, AS EVERYBODY HAS SAID.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S WAY TOO LONG.
UM, ANY ANY OTHER SCHOOLS ARE, ARE MUCH FURTHER AWAY, THE HIGH SCHOOL AND INTERMEDIATE.
AND THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO, TO AN ACCESS GATE, UM, TO REACH THOSE SCHOOLS.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO CROSS RAILROAD TRACKS.
THE OTHER LAST POINT I'LL MAKE IS IF THERE IS A, JUST A PEDESTRIAN GATE, WHAT WILL LIKELY HAPPEN IS MANY PEOPLE WILL COME AND PARK THEIR CARS ON ELM GROVE TO WALK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EITHER TO DROP KIDS OFF IN, IN THERE, OR THEY'LL JUST PARK AND WALK.
AND SO ELM GROVE WILL BE BACKED UP WITH CARS PARKED ON EACH SIDE OF THE STREET FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THAT AS A WALK CUT THROUGH.
SO NOT ONLY IS THERE A SECURITY ISSUE WITH JUST LOTS OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH, BUT ALSO YOU'LL HAVE LOTS OF CARS WITH PEOPLE PARKING AND JUST DROPPING KIDS OFF, BACK AND FORTH, WHATNOT.
SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
UH, THEN THE LAST SPEAKER I HAVE SIGNED IS CAMDEN DOOR.
I'M A RESIDENT OF 6 1 1 8 ELM GROVE ROAD IN THE NORTHAMPTON NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY CONCERNS.
I AM ONE OF ABOUT 20 HOMEOWNERS THAT THIS VARIANCE DIRECTLY AFFECTS ON ELM GROVE ROAD.
I HAVE A CORNER LOT ON ELM GROVE AND NORTH CREST DRIVE.
WE ALREADY HAVE A TR UH, TRAFFIC PROBLEM.
UH, AS MANY HAVE POINTED TO ON NORTH CREST ALREADY.
IT'S CAUSED BY MOTORISTS THAT ARE USING NORTH CREST, WHICH IS A 20 MILE AN HOUR RESIDENTIAL ROAD TO BYPASS THE TRAFFIC ON GOSLING ROAD.
I HAVE PERSONALLY ALMOST BEEN HIT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS WHILE TURNING INTO MY DRIVEWAY BY MOTORISTS WHO DON'T LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE NO INTEREST IN OBEYING THE TRAFFIC LAWS.
IN FACT, SITTING HERE LOOKING OUT MY WINDOW DURING THIS MEETING, I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE DRIVING 30, 40, 50, AND EVEN OVER 60 MILES AN HOUR IN A 20 MILE AN HOUR ROAD.
IT IS NOT SAFE, A SAFE ROAD FOR STUDENTS TO BE WALKING DURING RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC, OR REALLY AT MOST TIMES, UH, THERE ARE NO STREETLIGHTS AT ALL EITHER.
SO, UH, MANY OF US HAVE SMALL CHILDREN AND PETS.
YOU'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS ALREADY.
AND TOGETHER THERE ARE PROBABLY LESS THAN 50 PEOPLE ON THIS QUIET RESIDENTIAL STREET.
THERE IS CURRENTLY NO DIRECT ACCESS TO ANY MAJOR ROADS SUCH AS GOSLING ROAD INTO THIS NORTH HAMPTON NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ON ELM GROVE OR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL.
AND THERE ARE NO STREETLIGHTS.
UH, IT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR SUBSTANTIAL FOOT TRAFFIC OR COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC.
THIS PARAGON COMPLEX AND THE COMMERCIAL AMENITIES THAT ACCOMPANY IT WILL NOT PAY INTO OUR HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION YET IT IS EXPECTED TO BE GRANTED ACCESS AND THEREFORE USE TO THE PUBLIC AREAS FOR WHICH WE AS HOMEOWNERS PAY AND MAINTAIN GRANTING THE VARIANCE TO NOT CONNECT.
GOSLING ROAD TO ELM GROVE ROAD IS DESIRED.
HOWEVER, THIS SHOULD NOT BE CONDITIONED ON ACCESS GATES OR PEDESTRIAN GATES.
TO ALLOW OUR SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, MR. JOY, YOUR TIME'S EXPIRED.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK YOU TO WRAP UP PLEASE.
I WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO SAY THAT THE, UH, THE FIRE CODE MANAGER HAS ALREADY STATED THAT THIS GATE AND THE PEDESTRIAN GATES WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED FOR THEM TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
WE ARE AGAINST THIS, UH, COMPLEX BEING PUT IN.
HOWEVER, UH, IF IT WERE TO BE PUT IN, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS VIOLATED BY A COMMITTEE WHERE WE HAVE NO VOTE.
UH, BY YOUR TIME'S UP, I'VE GOTTA GO ONTO THE NEXT SPEAKER.
UM, WHO IS TIFFANY RODRIGUEZ? HI, MY NAME'S TIFFANY RODRIGUEZ AND I ALSO LIVE ON ELM GROVE ROAD NEXT TO WHERE THIS GATE WILL BE.
AND I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH MY NEIGHBORS HERE AND I KNOW PEOPLE WANT FACTS AND NOT JUST STORIES.
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REITERATE WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING HERE.DID YOU KNOW THAT SINCE 2019 PRECINCT FOUR, OUR LOCAL POLICE FORCE HAS REPORTED AT LEAST 17 CHILDREN HAVE BEEN HIT BY CARS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS 17 CHILDREN IN FOUR YEARS.
AND THIS STATISTIC DOES NOT INCLUDE THE NUMEROUS OTHER ADULT INCIDENTS WHERE JOGGERS AND DOG WALKERS HAVE BEEN SIMILARLY HIT BY CARS.
IN FACT, A PEDESTRIAN WAS HIT BY A CAR AS RECENTLY AS NOVEMBER 10TH, WHICH WAS JUST SIX DAYS AGO.
AS A PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED, STUDENTS WILL HAVE TO PASS ROUTE ROAD TO GET TO SCHOOL WHERE A CHILD WAS HIT IN THE EXACT SAME SPOT IN FEBRUARY OF 2023, WHICH WAS JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO.
AND IF THE STUDENTS MANAGED TO SURVIVE ALL OF THAT CROSSING, THEY STILL HAVE TO WALK OVER A MASSIVE TRAIN TRACK.
FURTHERMORE, THE REASON A PEDESTRIAN GATE FOR CHILDREN IS NOT NEEDED IS BECAUSE PARAGON PLACE IS SUPPOSED TO BE SERVICED BY SCHOOL BUSES.
ADDING A GATE IS ONLY GOING TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CHILDREN TO ATTEMPT TO CUT THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD INSTEAD OF RIDING THE SCHOOL BUSES LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO.
IT WAS EVEN MENTIONED IN THE ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATION THAT AN ALTERNATIVE FORM OF TRANSPORTATION WOULD BE MUCH SAFER THAN WALKING.
I DON'T SEE ANY BENEFIT FOR THIS PEDESTRIAN GATE, WHICH ALSO WILL NOT BE MONITORED OR LOCKED DURING LATE NIGHT HOURS.
AND IT CREATES A HUGE SECURITY RISK.
AS MENTIONED, WE ONLY HAVE 25 HOUSES ON OUR STREET AND YOU'RE ABOUT TO ADD THOUSANDS OF STRANGERS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
AND I FEEL VERY SCARED TO KNOW THAT THAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED.
SO I WILL, I WILL BE SUCCINCT AND THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
AND PLEASE, PLEASE HEED THESE, THESE REQUESTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THOSE ARE THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE SIGNED AT THIS TIME.
SO WE'RE GONNA TURN TO THE COMMISSION FOR SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.
COMMISSIONER CLARK, PLEASE, PLEASE.
I JUST GOT A TEXT THAT TOOK THE, UH, THIS IS STATE REPRESENTATIVE VALERIE SWANSON.
UM, I DID SIGN UP BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED.
I'VE BEEN WAITING ON HERE SINCE TWO 30.
LET ME TURN MY VIDEO ON AND, UH, THANK YOU.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I WASN'T SHOWING UP ON YOUR LIST.
UH, AGAIN, I'M STATE REPRESENTATIVE VALERIE SWANSON.
THIS IS MY FOURTH TERM TO REPRESENT THIS AREA TO THE TEXAS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FAR, FAR MORE CONSTITUENT CONTACTS ON THIS ISSUE BY FAR THAN ANY OTHER, UM, LOCAL ISSUE EVER.
AND PEOPLE ARE VERY, VERY CONCERNED.
THIS ALSO HAPPENS TO BE MY, MY SUBDIVISION.
UM, I ALSO GREW UP PLAYING ON THAT VERY BLOCK.
MY AUNT AND UNCLE LIVED ON THAT BLOCK, AND SO I'M VERY, VERY AWARE OF THAT AREA.
THERE IS NO PUBLIC SUPPORT IN THE AREA AT ALL FOR ANY KIND OF OPENING, WHETHER IT'S A GATE OR WHETHER IT'S A PEDESTRIAN OPENING.
UM, I'VE NOT ONLY HAD ALL THESE CONTACTS, THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS MEETINGS AND 100% OF THE CONSTITUENTS THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM HAVE BEEN IN FAVOR OF MAKING ELM GROVE A DEAD END WITH NO GATES AND NO PEDESTRIAN OPENINGS.
UM, ELM GROVE AND THE REST OF THE SUBDIVISION HAVE NO SIDEWALKS.
AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS THAT THERE, IT'S JUST NOT SAFE.
AND NO ONE WOULD SEND THEIR KIDS THAT FAR WALKING WHEN THE BUS IS GOING TO PULL RIGHT UP.
BUT WITH NO SIDEWALKS, WE HAVE GOTTEN CONSIDERABLE TRAFFIC NOW ON NORE.
I MYSELF DON'T EVEN LIKE TO WALK ON NORTHCREST, SO I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT'S POINTLESS TO HAVE AN OPEN AND THERE IS CON NO PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR THIS.
SO I WOULD URGE YOU TO PLEASE, UM, GRANT, UH, THE VARIANCE OF NO KEEPING THE DEAD END AND HAVE NO OPENINGS WHATSOEVER, NO GATES AND NO PEDESTRIAN OPENINGS.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO BE WITH US TODAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SIGNED.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, NOW WE WILL TURN TO THE COMMISSION.
SO MS. WILLIAMSON, MY QUESTION, AFTER LISTENING TO EVERYONE AND, UH, KNOWING THAT THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS, THE DISTANCE, UM, THE 17 CHILDREN HIT BY CARS VERY CONCERNING SAFETY ISSUES.
WOULD YOU AND HARRIS COUNTY RECONSIDER THE REQUIREMENT OF THIS GATE? WAS IT, I I UNDERSTAND THE PEDESTRIAN GATE ACCESS.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS.
UM, BUT IF THE KIDS REALLY AREN'T GOING TO BE WALKING BECAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS AND THE SCHOOLS ARE SO FAR, I MEAN, THESE ARE LITTLE KIDS.
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THEY'RE WALKING NOW.I HAVE EMAILS FROM THE FIRST TIME FROM MANY OF THE RESIDENTS TALKING ABOUT THEIR KIDS WALKING AND CROSS COUNTRY RUNNER LIKE IT'S USED.
NO, WE DON'T HAVE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
NO, YOU, UH, YOU HAVE YOUR TIME TO SPEAK THE PUBLIC'S.
YOU CAN'T BE INTERRUPTING THE MEETING.
SO MY, MY QUESTION IS LET CONDUCT OUR DISCUSSION, THE NEW RESIDENTS MM-HMM
BRINGING THAT MANY MORE PEOPLE ONTO THE STREETS.
DO WE REALLY FEEL IT'S SAFE ENOUGH TO DO THAT NOW? IT, IT'S JUST A QUESTION.
THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAT IS DEDICATED IN ALL OF THE NORTH NORTHAMPTON AREA COULD ALLOW IN THE FUTURE FOR SIDEWALKS TO BE BUILT.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE RIGHT OF WAY IS BUILT FOR MORE THAN JUST A STREET.
SO YES, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.
NOW, IS THAT ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE CONDITION THE PLAT IS GONNA BE SET FOR LONGER TERM.
AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO THINK LONGER TERM.
COMMISSIONER, MAY I ALSO MM-HMM
MAY I ALSO ADD THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
WE'RE NOT ONLY JUST TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS WALKING.
AND THAT IF THERE ARE BUSES THAT ARE TAKING THE CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SCHOOL THAT THE CHILDREN IN THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX MAY, MAY LIVE IN, THEY COULD ALSO GO TO THAT BUS STOP THAT WITHOUT A PEDESTRIAN GATE.
THERE IS NO ACCESS TO ANY ROADWAY EXCEPT GOSLING, WHICH IS FAR MORE DANGEROUS THAN, YOU KNOW, 45 MILES AN HOUR VERSUS 20 MILES AN HOUR.
AND SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A BUS STOP AT THE CORNER OF, DON'T KNOW, WE'RE TALKING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT'S NOT, I MEAN I NOT COMING UP TO THE GATE NOT COMING UP BECAUSE THERE'S NO TURNAROUND, RIGHT? OH NO, I MEAN IT'S WHEREVER THE SCHOOL PUTS IT ON STOP.
I'M NOT PROPOSING THAT IT BE MOVED.
IT IS PEDESTRIAN ACCESS BEYOND GOSLING.
WITHOUT THIS GATE, THE ONLY PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THIS COMMUNITY HAS IS GOSLING ROAD AT 45 MILES AN HOUR.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WENT IN, BUT I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE TWO.
THERE ARE, I SEE MULTIPLE, UH, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH, THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPMENTS, UH, UH, NORTH AND SOUTH OF THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY.
I DON'T SEE ANY ACCESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CURRENTLY FROM THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.
SO ARE THE KIDS BEING BUSED AROUND? DO WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THERE? I MEAN, BECAUSE IF IT'S SUCH A BIG AREA, I WOULD THINK A SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD HAVE A BUS STOP IN THAT APARTMENT BUILDING OR COMPLEX POTENTIALLY.
SO IT'S, IT IS A LITTLE CONCERNING.
IF I WAS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE CONCERNING HAVING 940 NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, HOUSEHOLDS COMING THROUGH THAT CUT THROUGH THROUGH THE ELK GROVE FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED.
I KNOW THAT AT LEAST FOR THE PART THAT IS CLOSEST TO ROUTE, BECAUSE IT'S TOO CLOSE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE SCHOOL BUS STOPS FOR GOING ALL THE WAY UP.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GOING THREE, FOUR MILES, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE ARE BUS STOPS, BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAIN MADAM CHAIR, YES.
COMMISSIONER POS PER, HAVE WE CONSULTED WITH KLEIN ISD TO SEE WHAT THEIR BUS STOP ROUTE IS? YEAH.
THEY HA CY-FAIR, RIGHT? ONE MILE.
ANYTHING OVER A MILE YOU GET BUSED ANYTHING OVER A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, YOU GET BUSED IT.
FROM WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE KIDS IN, IN ARE, ARE TAKING SCHOOL BUSES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I THINK ON THE DEPARTMENT, COMMISSIONER ROBBINS, I'M CURIOUS, DID THE DEVELOPER REQUEST THE, UM, PEDESTRIAN GATE AS WELL AS STAFF OR JUST STAFF? NO, IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, HARRIS COUNTY AND STAFF, BUT NOT THE DEVELOPER.
OH, YOU SAID, OKAY, PLEASE, IF YOU ARE IN THE AUDIENCE, YOUR TIME IS DONE.
THIS IS TIME FOR US TO DELIBERATE.
WE HEARD YOU LET US TALK, LET US TALK.
SO MS. WILLIAMSON, LET ME, LET ME MAKE THIS STATEMENT.
SO THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THE STREET GO THROUGH THE VARIANCE IS TO NEGATE THAT.
SO THE STREET DOES NOT GO THROUGH.
SO WE ARE ALREADY GIVING TO THE COMMUNITY.
IE THE STREET IS SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH TO GOSLING.
NOW, MY QUESTION IS, SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS 900 UNITS GOING IN THERE PLUS RETAIL.
SO DO WE KNOW HOW MANY EXITS ARE GOING TO BE ON GOSLING ROAD? BECAUSE THERE'S NONE GOING, NO, THANK YOU.
NOT THAT'S NOT QUESTIONS NOT FOR YOU.
THE, HOW MANY, HOW MANY EXITS ARE GONNA GO FROM THIS, FROM THIS PROPERTY TO GOSLING? APPROXIMATELY? I THINK THE SITE IS BEING PULLED UP.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ANOTHER RULING THAT BASICALLY SAYS YOU HAVE OVER 150 UNITS, THAT'S SINGLE FAMILY.
YOU NEED MULTIPLE ACCESS TO MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS.
NOW, FROM A FIRE PERSPECTIVE, IS THERE, IS THERE A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE A FIRE GATE THAT ONLY, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT USES
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MR. MONDA, COMMISSIONER AKKA? CAN YOU PUT YOUR YES.HARRIS COUNTY HAT ON AND TELL RIGHT.
SO, UH, HARRIS COUNTY STAFF CHECK THE REQUIREMENT ON THE, UH, FIRE EXIT AND, UH, THE CURRENT, UH, NOT HAVING ANOTHER EXIT ON THE WEST SIDE, UH, DOES SATISFY, UH, WE DO NOT NEED AN ADDITIONAL, UH, FIRE EXIT.
THE, THE EXITS THAT WE HAVE TO THE OTHER SIDE, FOUR EXITS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
SO THE, THE, THE EAST SIDE ENTRANCES EXITS WERE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FOR FIRE CODE.
SO WE'VE ALREADY STOPPED TRAFFIC FROM GOING THROUGH LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
'CAUSE THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE ORDINANCE.
UM, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, BUT I'VE OFTEN SAID, YOU KNOW, EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD THE MONEY WOULD BUILD A MOAT AROUND ITSELF TO KEEP EVERYONE ELSE OUT.
BUT THE TRUTH IS, PART OF OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CONNECTIVITY SO THAT EVERYONE CAN USE IT AND EVERYONE HAS ACCESS.
SO THIS IS THE FIGHT THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE HAVING TODAY, OR RATHER THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING TODAY ON WHAT IS THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION TO TAKE.
SO AT THIS POINT, NO THROUGH TRAFFIC BUT A PEDESTRIAN GATE.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT AT THE END OF THE DAY.
SO WE ARE GIVING UP A THROUGH STREET TO GOSLING FOR A PEDESTRIAN GATE.
SO I THINK THAT IN MY MIND, THAT IS A GOOD, THAT IS A GOOD SOLUTION TO THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM.
UM, I WANNA ASK, UM, COMMISSIONER MONDA PI DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT AS COMMISSIONER CLARK ASKS OUR CITY STAFF, IF WE WOULD RECONSIDER, WOULD THE COUNTY RECONSIDER OR ARE YOU, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE COUNTY POSITION IS AT THIS POINT? UM, WE CONCUR WITH THE, UH, WITH THE POSITION THAT AT LEAST THIS GIVES AN OPTION INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE HIGH TRAFFIC GOSLING ROAD FOR PEDESTRIANS TO WALK THERE ON THE BACKSIDE WHERE THERE'S 20 MILES PER HOUR PROVIDES AN OPTION WITH A FUTURE POTENTIAL ADDITION OF SIDEWALKS.
IF THAT OCCURS, WE'LL AT LEAST OPEN AN OPPORTUNITY.
NOT ALL 900 MIGHT WALK RIGHT NOW, BUT IN FUTURE THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THERE.
SO WITH THAT, UH, KEEPING IN MIND, UH, WE SUPPORT THAT PEDESTRIAN GATE.
COMMISSIONER ALLMAN? UM, I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE SAFETY CONCERNS AND PEOPLE WALKING AND IF IN FACT THERE'S THAT GATE THERE AND PARENTS OF THE CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THEY, IT'S A HAZARDOUS WAY TO GO.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA LET 'EM GO THAT WAY.
SO, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THAT IS THEIR DECISION TO MAKE FOR THEIR OWN CHILDREN.
UM, AS FAR AS THE DISTANCE, UM, AND I GUESS HERE I'M TALKING MORE ABOUT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UM, I KNOW IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THOSE KIDS RIDE THOSE BICYCLES, THEY, THEY RIDE 'EM FOR MORE THAN HALF A MILE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY AND IT MIGHT BE THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE APARTMENT OR SOME OF THEM DECIDE THAT ARE LIVING THERE, THAT IT ISN'T SAFE FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN WON'T BE WALKING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT HARRIS COUNTY IS GOING TO BUILD SIDEWALKS IN A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION? BECAUSE THE HOMEOWNERS ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
THEY WILL NOT, THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T DO IT.
PROBABLY FOR REASONS OF FINANCING AND CONTROLLING WHO COULD BUY A HOUSE THERE.
UM, I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY THAT ANY PARENT WANTS THEIR CHILD TO WALK DOWN THE STREET TO A SCHOOL.
SO I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE THIS GATE IS GONNA HELP ANYBODY.
COMMISSIONER, IF I MAY, UM, WE THOUGHT WE, UH, STAFF DID THINK ABOUT IT A LOT AND WE HAD INTENSE DISCUSSION ON THIS APP ITEM FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
THAT IS THE REASON WE DEFERRED IT TWICE.
UM, I KNOW THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING CHILDREN AND WALKING CHILDREN TO THE SCHOOL AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
HOWEVER, WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE PUBLIC STREETS BUILT FOR PUBLIC USE.
SO IT IS NOT JUST THE CHILDREN, BUT IT IS FOR THE USE OF EVERYONE WHO WILL COME IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR THEY ARE USING IT TODAY IF THEY'RE USING IT TODAY FOR WALKING.
AS COMMISSIONER ALMOND JUST SAID, SOME KIDS WILL WALK TO SCHOOL, SOME KIDS WOULD BIKE TO SCHOOL.
BUT WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THEM BIKE TO SCHOOL FROM GOSLING, WHICH IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE FOUR LANE, 45 MILE, SORRY, S GOSLING.
RIGHT? GOSLING 45 MILES PER HOUR.
'CAUSE IF THE KIDS, IT'S NOT, UH, ALWAYS THAT THE KIDS WILL, OR THE PARENTS WILL HAVE THE CAR TO DROP THE KIDS, THEY MAY HAVE TO WALK OR BIKE SOMETIMES.
AND THAT IS THEIR OWN CHOICE OR THAT IS THE ONLY OPTION THEY MAY HAVE.
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TO, UM, AS WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THE STREET SHOULD GO THROUGH OR NOT, UH, WHICH WE HAVE ALL DECIDED AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE STREET DOESN'T GO THROUGH.KEEPING MODES OF TRANSIT OPEN FOR AND CHOICE BE GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO WILL LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS IMPORTANT.
AND SO THAT IS WHERE STAFF IS COMING FROM THAT KEEP THE OPTION OPEN FOR PUBLIC TO DECIDE IT IS.
IF THESE WERE PRIVATE STREETS, OF COURSE WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING IT.
AND BUT THESE ARE NOT PUB, THESE ARE NOT PRIVATE STREETS.
THESE ARE PUBLIC STREETS MAINTAINED BY PUBLIC FUNDS.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF RETAIL IS, IS I HAVE MORE CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE RETAIL THAN THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RESIDENTIAL.
WHAT KIND OF RETAIL IS IT? I DON'T HAVE SPECIFICS.
JUST THE, THE GENERAL SITE PLAN AND KIND OF MAINLY MULTIFAMILY.
I SAY, I KNOW THIS HAS COME UP A LOT WHERE WE HAVE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS DROPPING IN NEXT TO 'EM AND THE STAFF HAS CONTINUALLY PUSHED FOR THE CONNECTIVITY.
AND RESPECTFULLY, I DISAGREE WITH THE POSITION AND I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THAT I THINK IT IS A, UM, IT IT IS DISRUPTIVE AND INTRUSIVE TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, IS MY OPINION.
AND I THINK THAT THE CONNECTIVITY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONNECTIVITY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOWS AND IN THIS CASE, WE ALL AGREE THAT TAKING THE ROAD ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO GOSLING'S A MISTAKE, BUT INSTEAD WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING A PEDESTRIAN GATE WITH NO LIMITATIONS, NO RESTRICTIONS ON A 50 ACRE DEVELOPMENT IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO ALL THESE HOMES.
IN MY OPINION, IT'S A MISTAKE AND I THINK IT'S A, UM, I THINK IT'S A, UH, UNREASONABLE BURDEN FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BEAR THE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO MOVE INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WE'LL KNOW WHETHER THEY HAVE ACCESS OR NOT WHEN THEY MAKE THAT CHOICE.
AND IF THEY DON'T WANNA LIVE THERE BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A PEDESTRIAN GATE, THAT IS THEIR CHOICE.
BUT ONCE YOU PUT THE PEDESTRIAN GATE IN, YOU HAVE NOW IMPOSED OUR WILL UPON THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN GIVING THE NEW RESIDENTS GOING INTO THE 50 ACRES, THE CHOICE WHETHER THEY WANT LIVE SOMEWHERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A PEDESTRIAN GATE THAT I'M SHARING MY OPINION WITH YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CLARK ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER ROBBINS, THESE GATES NEVER WORK.
THEY'RE EITHER BROKEN, THEY'RE LEFT OPEN, THEY'RE PROPPED OPEN.
WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT KIDS, I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE.
IT'S ALREADY PROVEN THAT THERE'S ACCIDENTS, THERE'S SAFETY ISSUES.
NOW I'M WITH COMMISSIONER PORUS PERLE.
THE COUNTY'S NOT GONNA BUILD THOSE SIDEWALKS ANYTIME SOON.
SO ARE WE REALLY CREATING THE SAFE ENVIRONMENT? THAT IS OUR JOB.
AND THAT IS, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? COMMISSIONER HEINZ? YEAH, I JUST THINK, UM, MY CONCERN, UM, I WEIGH EVERYONE'S OPINION.
I, UH, COULD IMAGINE THIS DEVELOPMENT BEING COMPLETED AND, UM, SINCE ACCIDENTS AND, AND PEOPLE BEING KILLED IN, IN, IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS OCCUR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING IF WE DO THIS THING WITHOUT THIS GATE, SOMETHING AWFUL HAPPENS ON GOSLIN AND THEN IT'S ON US, RIGHT? THERE WERE NO OPTIONS FOR, UH, THE PEDESTRIANS.
ALTHOUGH I VALUE YOUR OPINION THAT WE'RE IMPOSING THIS, NOT WE A DEVELOPERS HAS THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP THE SITE.
UM, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO ACTUALLY EXTEND ELM GROVE THROUGH IF WE WANTED TO.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A BALANCE, AND AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS THAT TRAFFIC AS WELL.
40, 45 MILES AN HOUR, 20 MILES AN HOUR, NO OPTION.
WE CAN'T CONTROL IF A GATE IS NOT MAINTAINED OR NOT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A CAUSALITY TO SAY, DON'T DO A GATE.
UM, IT WILL BE ON US IF IN FOUR YEARS THIS IS COMPLETED AND SOMETHING AWFUL HAPPENS TO A NEW RESIDENT OF THIS COMMUNITY ALONG GOSLIN BECAUSE THERE WAS NO OPTION AND WE DIDN'T PROVIDE AN OPTION.
RESPECTFULLY, I, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ON HIGH MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, UM, APARTMENTS ON FEEDER ROADS.
I MEAN, AND, AND THE RESIDENTS WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE HERE WILL KNOW THAT WHEN THEY MAKE THE DECISION TO LIVE THERE.
AND THAT WILL BE THEIR CHOICE.
I THINK IF, IF THEY WERE THERE NOW AND WE WERE MAKING THE DECISION, FRANKLY IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
BUT WHEN THIS IS BUILT, THEY WILL GO LOOK AT THE APARTMENT PROPERTY AND DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANNA LIVE THERE AND THEY'LL SEE THERE'S
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NOT ACCESS.AND THEY'LL SAY, WELL, I, SOME OF THEM MAY SAY, I HAVE A 2-YEAR-OLD, I DON'T WANNA LIVE HERE BECAUSE THEY MAY RUN OUT ON THE GOSLING AND THAT'S THEIR CHOICE.
BUT I THINK IT WILL NOT, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT WILL BE ON US.
IN MY OPINION, IT WON'T BE ON US BECAUSE THOSE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE CHOSEN TO LIVE SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE IS NO OTHER, UH, MODE OF INGRESS AND EGRESS OTHER THAN GOSLING.
AND THERE'S PLENTY OF APARTMENTS AROUND THE CITY LIKE THAT TODAY.
AND IT'S NOT THE FAULT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS THAT APPROVED THOSE PLATS BACK IN THAT TIME THAT WERE NEXT TO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DID NOT CONNECT TO NEIGHBORHOODS, IN MY OPINION.
AND, AND I, AGAIN, WE HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE I AGREE THERE ARE ADULTS THAT WILL BE MOVING IN AND THERE ARE KIDS THAT WILL BE THERE AS WELL.
AND I, I DOUBT KIDS ARE AS, UH, WELL, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAKING CHOICES RIGHT, IS QUITE DIFFERENT FOR AN ADULT THAN A CHILD RIDING THEIR BIKE OR WALKING IN THE COMMUNITY EXPLORING.
AND THE ONLY OPTION IS TO EXIT ALONG GOSLING, WE WON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T BELIEVE KIDS ARE GOING TO, UH, BE AS RATIONAL AS POTENTIALLY ADULTS.
AND THIS IS A CHOICE WE HAVE TO MAKE.
I SUSPECT YOU'LL CALL A VOTE AND WE'LL HAVE TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY.
COMMISSIONER MORRIS? UM, I, I'M GONNA KIND OF ECHO COMMISSIONER HINES BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY, EVERYBODY KNOWS I HAVE A HISTORY OF BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR ACCESS AND INGRESS AND EGRESS ACCESS.
UM, AND PART OF THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT HE SAID, IT, IT, THE WAY I ALWAYS KIND OF ANALYZE THIS IS IF THERE IS A FIRE, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW DO PEOPLE ESCAPE THAT? AND DID WE GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO ESCAPE THAT? UM, AND I THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT GPS.
I THINK ABOUT IT'S WHY I DON'T LIKE GIVING A LOT OF VARIANCES WHEN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER 150 LOTS OR ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BECAUSE IF THERE IS A FIRE IN THIS NEW COMMUNITY CLOSE TO GET GOLING, COULD PEOPLE GET OUT AND LIKE, THAT'S MY, MY THINKING.
SO I I I VERY MUCH RESPECT THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
I VERY MUCH RESPECT THEIR CONCERNS.
THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN'T PRIORITIZE ONE PERSON'S SAFETY OVER THE OTHER, REALLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT EVERYTHING HOLISTICALLY.
SO AS, AS COMMISSIONER GARZA HAS ALREADY STATED, WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN UP THE ACCESS ON, UM, VEHICLE HI VEHICULAR ACCESS.
WE'VE ALREADY DECLINED THAT, BUT I, I WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING THAT I'M GONNA DEPRIVE PEOPLE THE ABILITY TO WALK AWAY FROM A SCENARIO LIKE A FIRE.
SO I, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO KEEP THAT GATE OPTION MYSELF.
OKAY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER? VIERRA BLAND.
UM, I THINK WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN HARRIS COUNTY, WHICH IS THE THIRD LARGEST COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES, WE'RE SEEING AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT COMING IN.
AND I HAVE A HARD TIME PRIORITIZING THE GOALS AND NEEDS OF ONE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S PREEXISTING OVER THE GOALS AND NEEDS OF ANOTHER COMMUNITY.
IF THESE ARE PUBLIC RESOURCES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IF IT'S NOT A GATED COMMUNITY, I'M NOT SURE WHERE I SEE WHERE WE CAN RATIONALIZE BLOCKING PEOPLE OFF FROM ACCESSING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF IT WERE A GATED COMMUNITY, IF IT WERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE SEPARATE.
BUT IF THESE ARE PUBLIC STREETS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN SAY, BECAUSE YOU ARE IN A LESS WEALTHY SUB NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CANNOT ACCESS THIS OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL, I, I'M NOT, I THINK THESE ARE APARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE VERY EXPENSIVE.
I'M, THESE ARE GONNA BE EXPENSIVE APARTMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE HOMES ARE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THESE ARE GONNA BE NICE APARTMENTS.
PEOPLE COMING UP WE'RE REFERENCING SPECIFICALLY THE COST OF THEIR HOMES AND SAYING THAT OTHER PEOPLE DID NOT BELONG IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO I WANT US TO, I HEARD THOSE COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY.
I WANT US TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT OUR GOALS ARE HERE IN TERMS OF CONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS, IN TERMS OF PROVIDING ACCESS TO PUBLIC RESOURCES.
UH, AND I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE PROVIDING ACCESS.
WE ARE PROVIDING CONNECTIVITY.
OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CLARK.
UM, I HEAR YOU AND I HEARD THOSE COMMENTS TOO, AND I NEVER LIKED THOSE COMMENTS BECAUSE WE ALL BELONG EVERYWHERE.
UM, SO YES, I ECHO YOUR ANCE SENTIMENTS ON THAT, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE REALLY IS SAFETY.
IT'S ALL, ALL OF MY COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SAFETY.
EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD OVER HERE HAS BEEN SAFETY.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I'M GONNA SAY IT ONE MORE TIME.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU PAY $50,000 FOR YOUR HOUSE, YOU HAVE A MOBILE HOME, YOU HAVE A TINY HOME, YOU HAVE A MANSION.
SO THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF ANY OF MY COMMENTS OR ANYONE I THINK AT THIS TABLE.
SO IT IS REALLY ALL ABOUT SAFETY.
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FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, COMMISSION THE, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DEPARTMENT IS TO GRANT THE VARIANCE TO NOT CONNECT THE STREET, BUT TO REQUIRE A PEDESTRIAN GATE.UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION OF SOME KIND? I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UH, FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT THE PEDESTRIAN GATE.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION MINUS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE GATE.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND.
SO ROBINS CLARK, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO RAISE HANDS.
IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE? AND SIX KALIK.
ALL RIGHT, THEN IT FALLS TO ME.
UM, I WILL GO, UM, WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO REQUIRE THE GATE.
SO THE MOTION CARRIES FAMILY, I MEAN THE MOTION FAILS.
WE NEED A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS IS.
SO I ALSO, I WILL VOTE TIEBREAKER.
WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 1 69, SHORTSIGHTED MISTAKES.
ITEM 1 69 IS CASINO HOMES AT STONEWALL.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ALONG STONEWALL STREET, SOUTH OF LYON, EAST OF US, HIGHWAY 59.
IN CITY LIMITS, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES SIX NARROW FRONT LOADING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR CAGE STREET TO BE TERMINATED AT THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY AND TO NOT TERMINATE WITH A CUL-DE-SAC.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DEFERRAL TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER SUGGESTED REVISIONS.
AND SINCE THE THREE WEEK CYCLE IS UPCOMING, THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY FOR DEFERRAL.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ALONG STONEWALL, JUST SOUTH OF THE TERMINUS OF CAGE STREET.
THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 1200 FEET FROM THE ENTRANCE OF MIC LELAND COLLEGE PREP ACADEMY, LOCATED AT LIONS AND GREG.
THE ERICS IS EXPERIENCING RAPID REDEVELOPMENT, WHICH NECESSITATES IMPROVEMENTS TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO BETTER FACILITATE PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENT AND TRAFFIC CIRCULATION.
STAFF HAS EXPRESSED CONCERN TO THE APPLICANT THAT TERMINATING THE RESIDENTIAL STREET WITHOUT A TURNAROUND AND NARROW FRONT LENDING ACCESS COULD UNDERMINE THE AREA'S CAPACITY FOR SAFE TRANSPORTATION.
STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED OPTIONS THAT INCLUDE SHARED ACCESS IN A SMALLER TURNAROUND TO BETTER MEET THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE.
THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO CONSIDER THESE OPTIONS DURING THE DEFERRAL PERIOD.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DEFERRAL FOR FURTHER STUDY AND REVIEW.
WE'VE RECEIVED TWO COMMENTS, UH, EXPRESSING THE NEED FOR BETTER PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS AND NOTING A NEW SIDEWALK IS, WAS INSTALLED ON THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
HEY, QUESTIONS FOR MR. BUTLER? I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER? MOTION? GARZA GARZA, KLI KLI.
[e. Subdivision Plats with Special Exception Requests (Devin Crittle)]
EXCEPTION.MADAM CHAIR, DO YOU MIND IF WE TAKE THE NEXT TWO ITEMS TOGETHER AS THEY NO, I DO NOT MIND.
MADAM CHAIR, I'M, I'M ABSTAINING ON THESE TWO ITEMS. OKAY.
NOTE THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER SEGLER ABSTAINS, IF SHE STAYS AT THE TABLE, SHE CAN COUNT FOR QUORUM.
DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? YEAH, WE DO.
ALRIGHT, ITEM ONE 70 IS JDS HOP ROAD, BOTKINS ROAD AND RECREATION CENTER.
AND ITEM 1 71 IS JDS HOP ROAD, SECTION TWO.
BOTH OF THESE SITES ARE LOCATED WITHIN HARRIS COUNTY, EAST OF HOP ROAD, WEST OF MASON ROAD, ALONG BODKINS ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO ALLOW INTERSECTION SPACING AT A DISTANCE OF 505 FEET.
INSTEAD OF THE 600 FOOT REQUIREMENT ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST.
THE SITE IS A STREET DEDICATION WITHIN THE JDS GENERAL PLAN.
A STUB STREET IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED AT A DISTANCE OF 505 FEET.
STRICT INTERPRETATION OF THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES A PUBLIC STREET TO BE SPACED AT A MINIMUM OF 600 FEET ALONG HOP ROAD.
JUSTIFICATION FOR SUPPORTING THE REQUEST IS THAT BY ALLOWING A STUB STREET AT A 500 FOOT DISTANCE, THE
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INTERSECTION WILL BE LOCATED IN A SAFER LINEAR DIS DIRECTION INSTEAD OF BEING LOCATED ALONG A CURVED RADIUS.THIS 505, EXCUSE ME, THIS 505 FOOT DISTANCE IS A 16% DEVIATION FROM THE STANDARD HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEERING OFFICE.
HAS VOICED NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CCPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. K CRIDDLE? UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN? WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THESE ITEMS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON BOTH ITEMS? ONE 70 AND 1 71.
[f. Reconsiderations of Requirement (Devin Crittle)]
1 72, ITEM 1 72 IS SHOPS AT SHEPHERD.THE SITE IS LOCATED ALONG NORTH SHEPHERD BETWEEN THE NORTH LOOP AND PINE MOUNT.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A RESERVE FOR DEVELOPING A RETAIL COMMERCIAL CENTER WITH ACTIVE GROUND FLOOR USES.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING RECONSIDERATION OF THE BUILDING LINE REQUIREMENT TO ALLOW FOR A REDUCED BUILDING LINE OF SIX AND A HALF FEET ALONG NORTH SHEPHERD RATHER THAN THE REQUIRED 25 STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE SITE IS LOCATED THE SOUTHWESTERN CORNER OF JANICE AND SHEPHERD.
A SIMILAR VERSION OF THIS APPLICATION WAS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THIS PAST JANUARY.
THE PLAT WAS APPROVED BUT THE REDUCED BUILDING LINE VARIANCE WAS NOT.
THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE ADDED A WIDER BUFFER UNOBSTRUCTED SIDEWALK AND A WIDER UNOBSTRUCTED SIDEWALK AND SET THE FACADE OF THE STRUCTURE BACK TO ALLOW FOR ADU IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN REALM ALONG SHEPHERD.
THE APPLICANT IS UTILIZING BOTH JANICE AND SHEPHERD FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BEST PRACTICES FOR MINIMIZING PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICLE CONFLICTS.
STAFF FINDS THE REVISED REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF CHAPTER 42 AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
WE'VE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED WRITTEN COMMENT.
THIS ITEM, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
QUESTIONS FOR MR. BUTLER? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MADAM CHAIR? YES.
UM, APPLICANT IS HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IF NOT, UM, IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION.
[Platting Activities g - i]
ON TO SECTIONS, GH AND I.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IF HE PLEASES THE, THE COMMISSION STAFF WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SEC SECTIONS.
G, H AND I AS ONE GROUP PLEASE.
SECTION G EXTENSIONS OF APPROVAL CONSISTS OF ITEM ITEMS 1 73 THROUGH 180 1 SECTION H.
NAME CHANGES HAS NO ITEMS AND SECTION I CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE CONSISTS OF ITEMS 180 2 AND 180 3.
THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REQUESTS APPROVAL OF ALL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SECTIONS GH AND I.
DO WE HAVE ANY ABSTENTIONS IN THIS GROUP? I DON'T THINK WE DO.
UM, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON ALL ITEMS IN SECTIONS GH AND I POROUS PER LIK.
SECOND VICTOR, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[k. Development Plats with Variance Requests (Geoff Butler) ]
K DEVELOPMENT PLOTS WITH VARIANCE REQUESTS.ITEM 180 4, ITEM 180 4 IS 61 10 CLOVER RIDGE STREET.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ALONG CLOVER RIDGE BETWEEN WAYSIDE AND MACAU.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING APPROVAL FOR A CARPORT CONSTRUCTED ON AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FIVE FOOT BUILDING LINE ALONG CLOVER RIDGE FOR THE STRUCTURE RATHER THAN THE REQUIRED 20.
STAFF IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GULF CREST COMMUNITY SOUTH OF THE SIX 10 SOUTH LOOP.
THE SUBJECT TRACT IS LOCATED ON A BLOCK APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET OF DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE CURB AND THE PROPERTY LINE WITH FOUR FOOT SIDEWALKS.
THE CARPORT IS SET BACK AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
THIS IS A CONDITION THAT'S TYPICAL ON HOMES WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY, BOTH WITHIN THE CLOVER RIDGE SUBDIVISION AS WELL AS ON THIS BLOCK.
HOWEVER, REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THERE IS A 25 FOOT DEED RESTRICTED BUILDING LINE THAT THE CARPORT VIOLATES STAFF HAS COORDINATED WITH LEGAL TO EXPLORE OPTIONS THAT MAY GIVE STAFF DISCRETION IN REVIEWING THIS REQUEST.
HOWEVER, LEGAL'S FINDINGS DO NOT ALLOW FOR WAY TO RESOLVE THE DEED RESTRICTION CONFLICT BY WAY OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAT VARIANCE.
THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS DISAPPROVAL DUE TO THE 25 FOOT DEED RESTRICTED BUILDING LINE STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO ADVANCE WRITTEN COMMENT.
THIS ITEM, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
I BELIEVE THE, UH, APPLICANT IS HERE TOO.
BUT QUESTIONS FROM MR. BUTLER FIRST? UM,
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YES, THE APPLICANT IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.AND, UM, I AM REQUESTING AN APPROVAL ON MY VARIANCE.
I UNDERSTAND THE REASON FOR THE RECOMMENDED A DENIAL IS BECAUSE IN A DEED THERE IS A MINIMUM DISTANCE WHERE YOU CAN'T BUILD.
HOWEVER, THE DEED IS NOT BEING ENFORCED IN ALL SCENARIOS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BUILT CARPORTS ON THEIR PROPERTY, ON OUR STREETS AND SURROUNDING STREETS.
IF MY NEIGHBORS ARE ALLOWED THEIR CARPORTS, I AM PLEASE REQUESTING MINE BE ALLOWED.
FOR THIS REASON, ESPECIALLY SINCE MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT, I HAVE THREE VIDEOS OF APPROVAL FROM NEIGHBORS.
THESE D THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE OLD AND OUTDATED AND CARPORTS WERE NOT THOUGHT OF WHEN, WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS CREATED.
EVERYONE HAS CARPORTS NOW INCLUDING 16 PROPERTIES, UM, SPECI AND NOT TO MENTION ALL OF THE OTHER STREETS.
UM, IF MY NEIGHBORS CAN HAVE CARPORTS, I FEEL LIKE IT IS FAIR THAT I'M ALLOWED TO AND VICE VERSA.
NOBODY IS ENFORCING THE DEED IN OUR, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IF THERE IS NO HOA OR DEED ENFORCERS, I'M PLEASED ASKING TO APPROVE THIS VARIANCE.
AND WE, WE HEAR YOU, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO OVERRIDE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE LEGALLY CAN'T DO.
I THINK YOUR SUBDIVISION, THOUGH, YOUR CIVIC ASSOCIATION COULD TAKE ACTION TO APPLY FOR A WAIVER FOR IT.
COULD THEY NOT? UM, MS. WOODS, IS THERE SOME ACTION THAT THEY COULD DO IF THERE IS SOME TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR CIVIC CLUB THEY COULD, UM, GO THROUGH AND TRY TO GET THE RESTRICTIONS CHANGED.
OTHERWISE IT'S MORE OF HIRING A PRIVATE ATTORNEY TO TRY TO GET, UH, A JUDGMENT YEAH.
IN COURT REGARDING THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS CARPORTS THAT VIOLATE THE FRONT SETBACK.
AND I SUSPECT MANY OF THE OTHER CARPORTS MAYBE WERE BUILT WITHOUT ALL OF THEM COMING WITHOUT PERMITS.
AND SO WELL, THEY'RE BUILT WITHOUT PERMITS.
AND SO THEY, YOU KNOW, SO WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT IF ANY OF THEM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING COMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT VIOLATES DEED RESTRICTIONS, WE ARE LEGALLY BOUND TO DISAPPROVE IT.
AND THAT'S JUST OUR LEGAL POSITION.
I'M SORRY, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
UM, I TRIED TO LOOK UP LIKE, UM, LIKE MEETINGS FOR THE GULF, HUMANA AND I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING.
UM, IS, IS THERE, IS THERE SOMEWHERE WHERE I CAN GO TO TRY AND MAKE AN EXCEPTION SINCE I'M NOT SURE IF THERE IS A CIVIC CLUB OR SOME ORGANIZATION YOU MAY WANT TO CONTACT YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT OFFICE AND SEE IF THEY HAVE A CONTACT.
AND, AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, AM I IN RIGHT TO REPORT ALL OF THE OTHER CARPORTS THEN? BECAUSE IT'S THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOBODY, YOU, YOU CAN REPORT THEM.
COMMISSIONER CLARK, HOW LONG AGO DID YOU BUY THE HOUSE? WELL, IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
BECAUSE I WAS GONNA SAY, IF YOU HAD YOUR TITLE REPORT, YOU COULD GET WITH YOUR TITLE COMPANY AND THEY COULD GIVE YOU A COPY OF WHATEVER DEED RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
BUT CHANGE DEED RESTRICTIONS, IF, IF YOU HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE IN VIOLATION, MAYBE IT WOULD BE EASIER.
BUT IT TAKES, USUALLY TAKES TWO THIRDS OF THE VOTING MEMBERS, UM, TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT PASSED.
SO IT'S NOT EASY, BUT I WOULD START, UM, WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE.
THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A HAND.
I CHECKED WITH MS. WOODS IN A MEETING AGAIN AND, UH, FOR THIS VERY QUESTION, AND IT SEEMS YOUR DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE SELF-RENEWING, WHICH IS BY THE WAY, TYPICALLY WONDERFUL.
SO, SO WHAT IT MEANS IS, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER CLARK JUST SAID, YOU NEED TO FIND A WAY TO, I MEAN, PERHAPS IN A COURT OF LAW THEY COULD DECLARE THEM NO LONGER VALID, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN BROKEN BY EVERYONE.
BUT THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS AS THE, UH, AS WE SAID HERE, WE DON'T HAVE, WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO, TO APPROVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T GO GO ELSEWHERE.
AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO GO ELSEWHERE BECAUSE WITH SO MANY OF THE HOUSES WITH AND ALREADY IN VIOLATION OF THE RESTRICTION, IT MIGHT NOT BE SO DIFFICULT TO DO.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT THOUGH.
I GUESS ANOTHER POINT THAT I HAVE IS IF NOBODY THAT GULF HUMANA IS,
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HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT BECAUSE NOBODY HAS SAID ANYTHING.I GUESS I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE ENFORCED OR DOING YOUR JOB, BUT IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, THEN I DON'T SEE WHY THE CITY OF HOUSTON WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
WELL, THAT IS A QUESTION, ISN'T IT? YEAH.
WELL IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BY STATE LAW, WE CANNOT OVERRIDE YOUR DEED RESTRICTIONS.
WE ALL HERE COULD SAY WE DON'T MIND THE CARPORT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO OVERRIDE A COMMUNITY'S DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
I JUST THINK IT'S SUPER UNFAIR THAT MINE IS NOT ALLOWED WHEN HUNDREDS OF CARPORTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ALLOWED.
THANK YOU THOUGH FOR, FOR TRYING.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LEAH MULLINS.
UM, I'M ALSO A NEIGHBOR AND I AS WELL HAVE A CARPORT AND I'VE LIVED THERE FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS AND I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BUILT CARPORTS WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS AND THEY ALSO HAVEN'T GOTTEN A NOTICE.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
YEAH, APPARENTLY SOMEBODY MADE A SPECIFIC COMPLAINT ABOUT THIS, SO THAT'S WHY IT GOT RED TAGGED AND, AND IT CAME TO US.
WELL THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, BUT THANK YOU FOR, FOR COMING DOWN.
I WAS GONNA ASK MS. MULLINS, SO I GUESS YOU WOULD KNOW IF THERE'S A HOA ACTIVE HOA WITH A PRESIDENT AND EVERYTHING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? I DON'T THINK WE DO.
OKAY, SO YOU'VE NEVER HAD NA MEETINGS OR ANYTHING? NO.
ANOTHER THING, WHEN YOU TALK TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON, YOU MIGHT ASK ABOUT, UM, SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP AND SEE IF THERE'S ONE IN YOUR AREA AND THAT INCLUDES YOUR AREA AND I DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD OF A RESOURCE THAT WOULD BE, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER THING.
BUT IF THERE ISN'T ONE, YOU COULD FORM YOUR OWN.
THEY OPEN AND CLOSE ALL THE TIME.
YOU COULD FORM YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD CIVIC CLUB.
AND THEN VOLUNTEER AND CHANGE YOUR DEED RESTRICTIONS AND, AND I ALSO, THE DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IN THE CITY, UM, I DON'T THINK HAS THE CAPACITY TO ENFORCE INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, CARPORT ISSUES A LOT OF TIMES IT'S JUST THEY'VE GOT SO MUCH TO DO.
BUT THEY MIGHT BE A RESOURCE WHO COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOW TO CHANGE THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
OR GET A WAIVER ON THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF SORT OF, I KNOW IN THIS CASE LIKE THIS, IT'S, YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START.
DEPARTMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES MIGHT BE BE HELPFUL TO YOU.
AS PART OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO GIVE LEGAL ADVICE TO PRIVATE CITIZENS TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF HOUSTON.
SO, BUT CAN THEY TELL THEM SORT OF WHAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE ABLE, I MEAN HOW THEY MAY RECOMMEND SOME RESOURCES FOR THEM TO EXACTLY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 180 4? UM, IF NOT THEN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENY IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION GARZA.
IS THERE A SECOND? MADDIS SECOND.
AND I'LL JUST GO ON THE RECORD OF SAY, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY TRIED TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
JUST THAT DIDN'T WORK RIGHT IN HIS FAVOR.
[II. Establish a public hearing date of December 21, 2023 ]
US TO ROMAN NUMERAL TWO, WHICH, UH, IN WHICH WE NEED TO ESTABLISH A PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF DECEMBER 21ST, 2023 ON THE, UH, APPLICATIONS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.WE HAVE A MOTION TO SET DECEMBER 21ST.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND SIGLER.
UH, I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, COMMISSIONER CLARK IS HERE SO WE DON'T NEED TO ACT ON THAT.
THAT'LL TAKE US TO ADJOURNMENT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN ROBIN KINDS MOTION MODESTLY.