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GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
IT IS 12 NOON ON TUESDAY, MARCH 14TH, 2023.
I AM SONNY GARZA, WHO ALONG WITH LISA CLARK, OUR CO-CHAIRS OF THE LIVABLE PLACES ACTION COMMITTEE.
I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AS A VIRTUAL MEETING USING MICROSOFT TEAMS. UM, AS THIS, UH, AS THIS IS A COMMITTEE MEETING, PUBLIC SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK TWO MINUTES AT THE END OF THE MEETING IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
MEANWHILE, PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF AND TURN OFF YOUR CAMERA DURING THE MEETING.
IF YOU'RE JOINING US BY TELEPHONE, AGAIN, USE STAR SIX TO MUTE AND UNMUTE YOURSELF.
THE MUTE BUTTON ON YOUR PHONE WON'T WORK.
UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING THE MEETING, PLEASE USE THE RAISE YOUR HAND FEATURE OR UNMUTE AND STATE YOUR LAST NAME SO THAT YOU CAN BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR.
UM, NOW, COMMITTEE MEMBERS PLEASE PREPARE TO ANSWER THE ROLE BY UNMUTING YOURSELF.
WHEN YOU CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY, PRESENT THE CHAIR.
IS, UM, UH, CASEY MORGAN COMING TODAY OR JUST YOU? UH, NO SIR.
DUSTIN O'NEILL IS NOT PRESENT.
FERNANDO ZAMARRIPA IS NOT PRESENT.
JEFF KAPLAN? JEFF KAPLAN IS NOT PRESENT.
MATTHEW CAMP PRESENT? MATTHEW CAMP IS PRESENT.
MEGAN SIGLER SIGLER IS NOT PRESENT.
MARK NIGHTINGALE? MARK NIGHTINGALE IS NOT PRESENT.
TYRON MCDANIEL IS NOT PRESENT.
MAHMOOD MAHMOOD IS NOT PRESENT.
UH, JOINING US TODAY ARE CHERYL O'BRIEN.
I SHOW 10 MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER.
IF YOU HAVE JUST COME ONLINE AND DID NOT HEAR YOUR NAME CALLED PLEASE AS A SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER, PLEASE MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN NOW.
ALL RIGHT, MR. HOLLY, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO SOME QUICK INSTRUCTIONS
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FOR THOSE OF YOU.AS A REMINDER, AS WE ONLY HAVE THIS MEETING ONCE A MONTH AFTER JOINING THE MUTING A MEETING, STAY MUTED WITH YOUR CAMERA TURNED OFF.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, ENTER YOUR NAME INTO THE CHAT AND YOUR NAME WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER RECEIVED.
IF YOU'RE USING A CELL PHONE, AGAIN, STAR SIX TO MUTE AND UNMUTE.
UM, WHEN THE CHAIR CALLS ON AN INDIVIDUAL FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST NAME OUT LOUD.
A VERBAL RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS IMPORTANT.
UNLIKE THE CO-CHAIR, UH, CHAT MAY NOT BE USED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN PUBLIC SPEAKER REQUESTS OR BASIC STAFF ADMINISTRATION.
THE HAND RAISE FEATURE IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND NOT TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU USE THAT AND YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, YOU WILL NOT BE CALLED.
PLEASE PUT YOUR NAME IN THE CHAT.
PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE HEARD VERBALLY AT THE TIME DESIGNATED AT THE END OF THE AGENDA.
AND AGAIN, PLEASE DISCONNECT OR HANG UP ALL DEVICES.
UM, WHEN THE CHAIR ADJOURNS THE MEETING MEETING, I WILL NOW HAND THE MEETING OVER TO MARGARET WALLACE BROWN FOR THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
MARGARET CHAIR IF I MAY REAL QUICK, UM, YES, SEAN MASSEK, IS IT IN THE CHAT THAT HE IS PRESENT? ALRIGHT.
SEAN, ARE YOU THERE? CAN YOU HEAR US? YES.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, MARGARET, ARE YOU READY? YES, I AM PLEASE.
A GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
GOOD AFTERNOON CO-CHAIRS AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND GENERAL PUBLIC WHO ARE ON BOARD WITH US TODAY.
MY NAME'S MARGARET WALLACE BROWN AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF UPDATES I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU.
UM, RECENT, SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK WE'VE BEEN NOT DOING ANYTHING IN THE OFF TIMES WHEN WE HAVEN'T BEEN SEEING YOU, BUT WE HAVE BEEN STEADILY MEETING WITH, UM, A VARIETY OF COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS ON THE TOPICS THAT WE DISCUSS HERE IN THIS MEETING.
AND IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, WE HAVE HAD TWO, ACTUALLY FOUR VERY INTENSIVE MEETINGS WITH A SELECT GROUP OF NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS.
AND I'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED TO KNOW THAT, UM, AS WE'VE PRESENTED THEM SOME OF THE CONCEPTS AND THE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING HERE, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THEM.
SO, UM, AS WE PROCEED FORWARD, WE HAVE, UM, MORE INFORMATION ON WHICH TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE WHAT YOU GIVE US, WHAT THE COMMUNITY GIVES US, AND, UM, AND FORMALIZE A GOOD DOCUMENT THAT WE THINK IS REALLY, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF COMMUNITY ENDEAVORS AND COMMUNITY NEEDS.
UM, MR. MR COBBLER WHO HAD BEEN A MEMBER OF, OF THIS COMMITTEE REPRESENTING THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE, HAS BEEN UNABLE TO ATTEND.
I WAS UNAWARE OF HIS CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT UM, WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE AND ASKED THEM IF I COULD HAVE A REPLACEMENT, WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET CHERYL O'BRIEN AND, UM, KEITH DOWNEY, THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR OF THE SUPER NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE IN THESE LAST FEW MEETINGS IN, IN HIS PLACE.
AND SO PLEASED TO HAVE THEM THERE TO HAVE THEM HERE WITH US.
UM, IN ADDITION, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS THAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS ARE ALSO ON THIS CALL, SO I'M ANXIOUS TO HEAR THEIR COMMENTS, UM, ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL DISCUSSED TODAY.
UM, WE ARE PROCEEDING, UM, THIS IS GREAT WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND I'M PLEASED AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY DURING THIS.
I KNOW WE'VE CHANGED THE TIME OF THE MEETING WE ON YOU AND, UM, WE HAD HOPED NOT TO, BUT JUST CONFLICTS AND SO FORTH AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT TO SEE YOU BEFORE WE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THURSDAY.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME FOR THE ROBUST CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE IN THIS MEETING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, A GREAT MEETING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WANNA FOLLOW UP WITH ANYTHING WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL OUR NUMBERS HERE AT (832) 393-6600, OR YOU CAN GO TO HOUSTON PLANNING.COM, UM, AND UH, AND FIND OUT ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE.
SO, UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT AND I'M ANXIOUS TO HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY TODAY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL HAND THIS BACK OVER TO SAVITA STO.
UM, SDA BANDY PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET STARTED WITH THE AGENDA.
SO CAN WE GO TO THE AGENDA SLIDE PLEASE? SO IN TODAY'S AGENDA PRIMARILY WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE HOUSING RECOMMENDATIONS AND AFTER THAT, UM, WE WILL LOOK AT EACH OF THE HOUSING TYPES AND LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UM, GET ANY COMMENTS, FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF YOU COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, JUST AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHERE WE ARE AT.
UM, SO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ABREAST OF THE NEXT STEPS AND FOLLOWED BY HOMEWORK ACTIVITIES AND PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END.
SO THAT IS WHAT OUR AGENDA LOOKS LIKE FOR TODAY.
SO LET'S GET STARTED AND HOPE YOU ARE, UM, NOT ENCOURAGING TOO MUCH INTO YOUR
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LUNCHTIME AND YOU'RE STILL ABLE TO EAT BECAUSE IT'S A VIRTUAL MEETING.UH, L PLACES LAUNCHED IN FALL OF 2020, UM, AND IT IS OUR EFFORT TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ENCOURAGE HOUSING VARIETY AND AFFORDABILITY.
IT'S ABOUT CREATING MORE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR HOUSTONIANS WHO CURRENTLY LIVE HERE AND THOSE WHO WILL MOVE HERE.
AND WE ARE NEIGHBORS, OUR COWORKERS AND OUR FRIENDS.
THIS IS AN EFFORT TO IMPLEMENT THE ACTIONS IDENTIFIED IN VARIOUS PLANS LIKE PLAN HOUSTON, RESILIENT HOUSTON AND OTHERS.
ANY CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT COME OUT OF THIS EFFORT DO NOT, UH, APPLY WHERE DE DE RESTRICTIONS PROHIBIT AND CITY HAS NO AUTHORITY TO OVERRIDE OR SUPERSEDE ANY ACTIVITY RESTRICTIONS.
SO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING IN HOUSTON FOR DECADES, DECADES IS EITHER DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SHOWN IN GRAY ON THE LEFT OR THE MID OR HIGHRISE MULTIFAMILY IN GRAY ON THE RIGHT, THERE ARE OTHER VIABLE AND USEFUL OPTIONS IN THE MIDDLE THAT ARE MISSING IN THE HOUSING STOCK DUE TO EXISTING REGULATIONS.
ONE WAY TO PROVIDE VARIETY OF HOUSING OPTIONS IS BY ENCOURAGING, OR IN SOME CASES EVEN ALLOWING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES THAT ONCE, UH, THAT WERE ONCE NOT ALLOWED, HAVING DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING OPTIONS CAN HELP ALLEVIATE HOUSING NEEDS, PROVIDE INFO DEVELOPMENT AT DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS FOR MORE MARKET USERS AND PROVIDE AT SCALE DEVELOPMENTS WHICH IS MORE EFFICIENT ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS CAN HELP CREATE VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO WITH LIVABLE PLACES, WE ARE PROPOSING AND PROMOTING THESE FOUR HOUSING OPTIONS, UM, WHERE THE RESTRICTIONS ALLOW OF COURSE, AND WE WILL GO, GO INTO EACH OF THESE HOUSING TYPES INDIVIDUALLY ON THE SCREEN.
SO NOW WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE FIRST ONE.
UM, CURRENTLY THE RULES, UH, THIS IS CALLED SECOND DWELLING UNIT.
CURRENTLY RULES ALLOW THESE DETACHED DWELLING UNITS ON ONE LOT TO STILL BE CLASSIFIED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS, AS LONG AS THE SECOND UNIT IS NO GREATER THAN 900 SQUARE FEET.
ONE OF THE MAIN CHANGES, UM, THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO ELIMINATE THE SIZE LIMIT OF THE SECOND DWELLING UNIT.
JUST LIKE FOR DUPLEXES, THERE IS NO SIZE LIMIT.
WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING RIGHT SIZING THE PARKING MINIMUMS BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE SECOND UNIT.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN, UM, IF THE FIRST HOME HAS TWO PARKING SPACES, THE SECOND UNIT, UM, IF IT IS A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR LESS, THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL PARKING REQUIRED.
BUT IF THE SECOND UNIT IS A THOUSAND TO 1500 SQUARE FEET, THEN THERE IS ONE SPACE REQUIRED.
AND IF THE SECOND UNIT IS GREATER THAN 1500 SQUARE FEET, THERE IS TWO SPACES REQUIRED.
SO THESE DETACHED, UM, DWELLING UNITS ON ONE LOT ARE STILL CLASSIFIED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS LONG AS LIKE WE MENTIONED THE 900 SQUARE FEET.
THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF HOW THEY LOOK, UH, WITH UNITS IN THE BACK IN TERMS OF ACCESS.
IF THERE IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING UP WITH ONE HOME IN THE FRONT AND A SECOND UNIT IN THE BACK, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE LIMIT ONE CURB CUT PER PUBLIC STREET FRONTAGE.
AND LIKE I MENTIONED ABOUT THE PARKING, UM, IT'S IDENTIFIED HERE, UH, AS TO IF THE FIRST HOME HAS TWO SPACES, HOW THE SECOND UNIT CAN OR CANNOT HAVE PARKING SPACES BASED ON ITS SIZE.
UM, AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT MARKET-BASED PARKING AREA ALL THE WAY IN THE END.
BUT BASICALLY IF THE PROPERTY IS IN THE VICINITY OF OTHER MODES OF TRANSIT, UM, LIKE HIGH FREQUENCY BUS STOPS AND RAIL STATIONS AND BIKE PATHS, UM, HIGH COMFORT BIKE LANES, THEN IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE ZERO PARKING MINIMUMS AND WE'LL GET TO THAT IN THE END.
WITH THAT, I WILL BE READY FOR QUESTIONS ON THIS SECOND DWELLING UNIT IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABOUT THIS RECOMMENDATION.
ALRIGHT, SUBCOMMITTEE, THANK YOU SABITA SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, YOU CAN USE THE RAISE YOUR HAND, UH, TO UH, SPEAK OR IF IT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO YOU, GO AHEAD AND ANNOUNCE YOURSELF AND, UM, SAY YOUR NAME AND ASK YOUR QUESTION.
WOW, OKAY, WELL THEN THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
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SO THAT IS ONE OF THE PREDOMINANT COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY LEADER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS? ALL RIGHT, THEN HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON.
OKAY, UM, THE NEXT HOUSING TYPE TO BE DISCUSSED IS CALL MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS A TRIPLEX, MULTIPLE DUPLEXES OR A FOURPLEX OR MULTIPLEX WITH NO MORE THAN EIGHT DWELLING UNITS IN WHATEVER CONFIGURATION THEY COULD BE BUILT.
SO IT COULD BE ONE STRUCTURE OR IT COULD BE MULTIPLE STRUCTURES, BUT ON ONE UNRESTRICTED PROPERTY, WE USED TO HAVE TRIPLEXES AND QUADPLEXES AROUND THE MID-CENTURY, BUT OVER TIME OUR DEVELOPMENT RULES BECAME SO RESTRICTIVE THAT WE IN EFFECT ELIMINATED THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY OF THESE TYPE OF, UM, SMALL SCALE MULTIFAMILY.
THE MULTIPLEX IS, UH, LOST HOUSING OPTION, NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, BUT COULD SEE A RESURGENCE TO FILL IN THE GAP OF SMALL SCALE RENTAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
THIS TYPE COULD ALSO BE A TOOL TO BUILD NET WORTH ON AN EXISTING PROPERTY BY EITHER RENOVATING AND CONVERTING AN EXISTING LARGE HOME TO ADD A FEW RENTAL UNITS OR BUILD OTHER STRUCTURES ON SITE FOR THE ADDED RENTAL INCOME.
RIGHT NOW, A QUADPLEX HAS THE SAME REQUIREMENTS AS A LARGE DEVELOPMENT OF HUNDREDS OF APARTMENTS.
THIS MEANS THAT WE LOSE THE VITAL OPTION IN THE HOUSING MARKET FOR SMALL SCALE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.
INSTEAD, WHAT WE GET IS EITHER A TALL MULTI-FAMILY STRUCTURE BEING PLACED ON FIVE TO 10,000 SQUARE FEET LOTS, UM, OR WE GET MULTIPLE PARCELS BEING COMBINED TOGETHER TO MAKE A LARGE SCALE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
SO INSTEAD WE ARE TRYING TO PROMOTE THE SMALL SCALE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.
THE MAIN CHANGE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO ALLOW NOT MORE THAN EIGHT UNITS ON AN UNRESTRICTED PROPERTY TO BE REVIEWED UNDER SPECIFIC SET OF GUIDELINES.
INSTEAD OF THE SAME VEIN OF HIGHRISE OR LARGE SCALE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING A HEIGHT RESTRICTION OF NOT MORE THAN TWO TO THREE STORIES TO FIT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT.
AND FOR THE FRONT BUILDING TO HAVE AN ENTRY FEATURE FROM THE STREET.
WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING THAT, UM, THE PARKING BE ON THE SIDE OR REAR OF THE UNITS AND THE HOMES MUST BE FRONTING THE STREET PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS MUST BE ESTABLISHED TO THE SIDEWALK AND THE DRIVEWAY THAT TAKES PARKING TO THE BACK.
UM, THE MAXIMUM WE ARE PROPOSING MAXIMUM BIRTH OF THE DRIVEWAY TO BE 16 FEET.
UM, IN TERMS OF BUILDING LINE, IN ORDER TO BRING THE BUILDINGS TO THE FRONT, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT A FIVE FOOT BUILDING LINE ALONG LOCAL STREET AND COLLECTOR STREET BE PROVIDED, UM, BE REQUIRED.
AND FOR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES 80 FEET OR LESS, WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, 15 FEET REDUCED BUILDING LINE.
SO HOMES CAN FRONT THE STREETS.
UM, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT WOULD BE BASED ON THE UNIT SIZE, JUST LIKE WE DISCUSSED IN THE SECOND DWELLING UNITS WE WANT, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PARKING BE BASED ON THE UNIT SIZE.
SO IF THE, IF EACH UNIT FOR THE UNIT THAT ARE 1500 SQUARE FEET ARE, UM, SMALLER, THERE IS ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT.
AND IF THE UNITS ARE LARGER THAN 1500 SQUARE FEET, THEN IT IS TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT.
UM, MARKET-BASED PARKING IS ALSO ALLOWED IN TERMS IF THERE IS OTHER MODES OF TRANSIT, THEN WE WANNA ENCOURAGE, UM, USAGE OF THAT, UM, OTHER MODES OF TRANSIT AND THEREFORE NO CITY PARKING MINIMUMS WILL BE, ESTABL WILL BE REQUIRED.
HOWEVER, IN TERMS OF GUEST PARKING, UM, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT OF ONE PER EVERY SIX UNITS SIMILAR TO HOW WE DO OUR SHARED DRIVEWAY AND PAE DEVELOPMENTS.
AND ALSO IF, UM, PARKING CAN BE SEPARATE FROM THE UNITS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE UNDERNEATH THE STRUCTURES.
UM, IF THE PROPERTY UTILIZES THE MARKET BASED PARKING REQUIREMENT, THEN ONE BIKE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT
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MUST BE PROVIDED.SO THOSE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
OKAY, SO WE ARE READY FOR QUESTIONS ON THIS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SAVITA COMMITTEE MEMBERS QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED.
I DO SEE ONE TAMMY, I CANNOT SEE WHO IT IS THOUGH.
FRED METHODIST FIRST AND THEN MIKE BERGER.
YES, I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR MU IN THE, WITHIN THE CITY OF HOUSTON.
HOW WOULD THE CITY OF HOUSTON ENFORCE THE PARKING? I KNOW IT WOULD BE IN CHAPTER 4 8 2, BUT HOW WOULD THAT BE ENFORCED IN, IN PRACTICALITY? IS THAT THOUGHT OF? THAT'S QUESTION.
UM, AS WE REVIEW THE SITE PLAN, UM, PER UNIT, UM, AT SITE PLAN STAGE, THEY HAVE TO IDENTIFY HOW MANY UNITS THEY'RE PROPOSING AND WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE UNITS.
AND BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THERE IS A PARKING REQUIREMENT, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT PROVIDES PARKING TODAY.
AND THOSE SPACES HAVE TO BE IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN AND OUR PERMITTING TEAM WILL, UM, ENFORCE THAT.
SO BASICALLY THEY WOULD LOOK INTO CHAPTER 42 WITH NEW ORDINANCE ABOUT PARKING, CORRECT? YES.
AND WE ARE ALSO INPUTTING THAT IN CHAPTER 26.
YES, THIS IS MARGARET WALLACE.
CAN I ADD PARKING IS REQUIRED? PARKING IS IS TYPICALLY IN CHAPTER 26, NOT 42 PARKING REQUIREMENTS CHAPTER.
UH, MR. MATHIS, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? YES.
UM, MIKE BERGER, GO AHEAD PLEASE.
OH, ACTUALLY A, A POSITIVE COMMENT.
SO YOU'LL HEAR A POSITIVE COMMENT FROM ME TODAY.
UM, THIS IS A GOOD, I LOVE THIS, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PEOPLE.
I KNOW HCC IS SUPER IN FAVOR OF THIS.
UM, THE ONE ISSUE IS, AND SAVITA SMILING, WE HAVE TO GET PUBLIC WORKS TO CHANGE THE BUILDING CODE AND I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, UH, ANY SUPPORTS THAT'S NEEDED, UM, BE GLAD WE'D ALL BE GLAD TO HELP.
BUT THE BUILDING CODE, THE REASON WHY A LOT OF THESE AREN'T BEING BILLED IS BECAUSE IT FALLS UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, WHICH IS A MUCH STRICTER, UM, UH, SET OF CODES TO FOLLOW.
SO ANYWAY, JUST WANNA MAKE THE COMMENT THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS OTHER CHANGE FIRST, HOPEFULLY BY, UH, MAY.
AND AND THIS IS DIRECTOR WALLACE.
CAN I JUMP IN FOR A MOMENT? AND THANK MIKE.
WE ARE PROPOSING A CHANGE TO BRING, UM, UNITS OF LESS THAN TO BRING THESE SMALL DEVELOPMENTS INTO THE RESIDENTIAL CODE OUT OF THE BUILDING CODE.
AND HE'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL, UH, WITH US ON DRAFTING THE LANGUAGE AND WORKING AT HELPING ME WORK THROUGH THE SYSTEM THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH.
AND SO, UH, GRATEFUL FOR HIS SUPPORT ON THIS.
IF ANYBODY ELSE ON THE CALL WANTS TO JUMP IN AND BE A SUPPORTER ON THIS, WE WOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR.
UM, I THINK LETTERS OF SUPPORT MIGHT BE HELPFUL OR SOME OTHER THINGS.
UM, TAMMY, I'M SEEING MATTHEW CAMP.
YES, MR. CAMP, ARE YOU THERE? YEAH.
I KNOW THE DRIVEWAY, UH, WIDTH IS MAX 16 FEET, IS THE AISLE BEHIND THE PARKING ALSO 16 OR IS THAT GOING TO BE, UH, 24 SIMILAR TO A COMMERCIAL? UH, OH, BELOW TO DRIVE? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, IT CAN BE, UM, 18 FEET I THINK, BUT I HAVE TO CONFIRM THE EXACT DIMENSIONS.
UH, WHAT WE ARE IDENTIFYING HERE IS THE 16 FEET ENTRY, BUT AFTER THAT, THE CARS HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT 90 DEGREE TURN AND WHATEVER IS REQUIRED FOR THAT, UM, WILL BE NEEDED.
UH, PUBLIC VOICE APPEAL IS HERE.
UH, MR. SMITH, DO YOU WANNA COMMENT? MAYBE NOT, NOT SORRY, SAVITA, I MISSED THAT QUESTION.
SO, UM, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE PLEASE, DEVIN? UM, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT FOR MU WE WANT THE PARK, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PARKING BE ON THE SIDE OR THE REAR, BUT THE CURB CUTTER THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH WE ARE PROPOSING MAXIMUM IS 16 FEET.
THE QUESTION IS THE 16 FEET DRIVE THAT PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE PARKING WHEN IT GOES INTO THE PROPERTY AND MAKES, UM, THAT TURN TO PROVIDE, UM, ACCESS TO PARKING SPACES.
CAN IT REMAIN 16 OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE WIDER LIKE 24 FEET OR SOMETHING? IF IT'S ON THE PROPERTY, IT WOULD NOT NEED TO BE WIDER.
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IT COULD REMAIN 16 IF IT'S ON THE PROPERTY.UM, AND THAT'S ONE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE IF IT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A, MAYBE A CHANGE WITH THE IDM.
I THINK THE QUESTION IS ABOUT THE PARKING AISLE, LIKE, UM, OH, THE AISLE? YEAH.
AND I'M TRYING TO, I'M THINKING BACK AND LOOKING AT THE WHAT'S IN IT MAY REQUIRE A DESIGN CHANGE WITHIN THE IDM FOR THE PARKING LOT LAYOUTS.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THAT QUESTION.
AND IF THERE IS, UM, ANY CLARIFICATION TO BE MADE, WE'LL UPDATE THE COMMITTEE WITH THAT.
BUT THE DRIVE AISLE WITH I, I THINK CAN BE, UM, 20 FEET, 18 TO 20 FEET, BUT WE'LL CONFIRM THAT.
UM, DIRECTOR MARGARET WALLACE BROWNIE, UH, DO YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED? I DO.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF SAVITA WAS GONNA ALSO ADD THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, OR IF I SHOULD, UH, YOU MAY DIRECTOR.
DO YOU WANNA ADD
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, UH, THAT YOU ALL MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER IS THAT PERHAPS EIGHT UNITS IS A LITTLE TOO LARGE TO BE IN, UM, TO BE ALLOWED IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND ON LOCAL STREETS.
AND THAT PERHAPS THEY'D BE BIFURCATED THAT MAYBE THE FOUR, THE UP TO FOUR UNITS BE ALLOWED IN ON LOCAL STREETS.
AND ANYTHING FROM FIVE UNITS TO EIGHT UNITS, UNITS BE ALLOWED ONLY ON COLLECTORS OR MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS.
WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A, A GOOD COMMENT AND, UM, WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
I SHOW CHERYL O'BRIEN OR A HAND RAISED FOLLOWED BY PETER FRIEDMAN.
I'M, THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT POSSIBLY LETTERS OF SUPPORT WOULD BE USEFUL AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF A TEMPLATE COULD BE PROVIDED FOR, UH, FOR US TO USE IN DRAFTING SUCH A LETTER.
COULD YOU MAKE THAT AVAILABLE? YES, THANK YOU.
I I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS.
UM, I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, BUT I NEED TO TALK WITH PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT THAT, BUT THANK YOU.
IF YOU NEED THAT, SEND A TEMPLATE OUT SO THAT WE DON'T AMBLE ALONG THAT WE GET PERFECT.
UM, I SHOWED PETER FRIEDMAN NEXT.
JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M, I'M, UM, IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
UH, THIS AND THE ADUS AND THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY.
ALRIGHT, TAMMY, I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED, ARE YOU? NOPE.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT THEN, UM, SO OH, AND DIRECTOR WALLACE BROWN.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT IDEA OF THE FIVE TO EIGHT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
I THINK THAT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING AND CHANGES THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, MR. CHAIR, I ALSO WANTED TO ASK, WE TALKED ABOUT LIMITING THE A DU SIZE.
IF THERE WERE ANY IDEAS FROM THE COMMITTEE OF WHAT THE SIZE SHOULD BE FOR THE SECOND UNIT? I WILL BE, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO, UM, GATHER THAT FEEDBACK.
ALSO, UH, SAVITA, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MULTI-UNIT OR THE SECOND DWELLING UNIT? NO, THE SECOND DWELLING UNIT.
I, WE DIDN'T, SO UNDER A THOUSAND, A THOUSAND TO 15 AND 15 AND UP? YES.
AND BY THE WAY, SAVITA, ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE TODAY, A SECONDARY DWELLING UNIT IS SEPARATE.
IT IS NOT ATTACHED TO THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT.
YES, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE MAIN DWELLING UNIT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTARY ON SECONDARY DWELLING UNITS OR MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL? OKAY, THAT'S A GOOD SIGN.
OKAY, SO WE'LL GO AND TALK ABOUT THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS NARROW LOT DEVELOPMENT.
THE NEXT HOUSING TYPE THAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS IS NARROW LOTS.
WE ARE DEFINING NARROW LOT DEVELOPMENT AS THOSE THAT PROPOSE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH LESS THAN 40 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON THE PUBLIC STREET.
THESE NARROW LOTS CAN USE DIFFERENT FORMS OF ACCESS FROM A STREET DIRECT VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE STREET, A COMBINED AND SHARED DRIVEWAY AND UTILIZING AN EXISTING ALLEY.
THESE TYPES OF HOMES ARE HAPPENING CITYWIDE IN NEARLY ALL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T HAVE RESTRICTIONS FOR MINIMUM LOT SIZE OR LOT WIDTHS.
WITH THE CURRENT RULES, ONE OF THE MOST COMMON FORMS THAT WE ARE GETTING
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ARE NARROW FRONT LOADING LOTS WITH MOST OFTEN TWO CAR GARAGES, GARAGE AS THE ONLY FRONT OF THE HOME DUE TO THE NARROWNESS OF THE NEWLY CREATED LOTS.THESE DOUBLE WIDE DRIVEWAYS, UM, LEAVE ONLY EIGHT TO 10 FEET APART FROM THE NEXT DRIVEWAY.
LI THEY LIMIT OUR DRAINAGE CAPACITIES ON OPEN DEAD STREETS DUE TO THE CONSTANT BREAKS WITH SMALL CULVERTS AND INADEQUATE DRAINAGE.
THE IMPACT ON THE, THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT, UM, SORRY, I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT SLIDE.
CAN WE, UM, YEAH, LET'S, SO WITH THE CURRENT RULES, ONE OF THE MOST COMMON FORMS THAT WE'RE GETTING ARE THESE NARROW LOTS.
AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS, UH, COMPONENTS OF THIS STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE IS TO LIMIT THE, LIMIT THE AMOUNT OR AT LEAST THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY APPROACHES.
ONE OBJECTIVE IS TO REQUIRE VEHICLE ACCESS VIA AN ALLEY SHARED DRIVEWAY OR COMBINED DRIVEWAY APPROACH WHEN POSSIBLE.
WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THAT HOMES BETTER ENGAGE THE STREETSCAPE WITH, UM, ENTRYWAYS AND LIVING SPACES OR WINDOWS, ET CETERA.
UM, ANOTHER GOAL IS WALKABILITY AND GENERAL PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE WOULD LIKE TO CONNECT, UM, I THINK THE SLIDES ARE, LET ME SEE.
ANOTHER GOAL IS WALKABILITY AND GENERAL PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE WOULD LIKE TO CONNECT THE, UM, CORRECT THE CONDITION OF GETTING UNUSABLE SIDEWALKS OF A FEW FEET, CONSTANTLY DISRUPTED BY THE CONSTANT DRIVEWAY AFTER DRIVEWAY, MAKING AN UNSAFE WALKING AND CYCLING ENVIRONMENT WITH HIGH POTENTIAL FOR VEHICLE CONFLICT.
AND ALTHOUGH IT IS ILLEGAL TO PARK, UM, TO HAVE PARKED VEHICLES SO OFTEN BLOCK SIDEWALKS, THE AMOUNT OF DRIVEWAY CUTS ALSO LEAVES NO ROOM FOR ON STREET PARKING.
WHEN LOTS USE ALLEYS OR SHARED VEHICLE ACCESS, THIS LEAVES AN UNINTERRUPTED STREETSCAPE PEDESTRIAN RAIL AND ALLOWS THE HOMES TO TRULY FRONT THE STREET.
SO IN TERMS OF THE PROPOSAL, UM, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT UM, IF THE PROPERTY HAS, UH, IS ABUTTING AN ALLEY, EITHER CORNER PROPERTY OR MID BLOCK, THE PROPERTIES, UM, WILL TAKE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY.
AND IF IT'S CORNERED PROPERTIES THAT ARE AVERTING AN UNDEVELOPED ALLEY OR AN ALLEY, UM, OR THERE IS NO ALLEY, THERE IS AN OPTION TO IMPROVE THE ALLEY OR TAKE ACCESS VIA A, UM, SHARED DRIVEWAY OR TYPE TWO PAE OR FLAGSTAFF FROM THE SIDE STREET.
IF THE PROPERTIES ARE MIDBLOCK, THEN UM, AND THERE IS NO ALLEY, THEN THE CRITERIA DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF LOT WIDTHS ARE YOU PROPOSING.
IF CREATING LOTS 40 FEET OR WIDER INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAY ACCESS FROM THE STREET IS ALLOWED, BUT THE PROPERTY MUST MAINTAIN AN UNOBSTRUCTED CURB SPACE OF 22 FEET.
IF YOU'RE CREATING ONE OR MORE LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 40 FEET WIDE, UM, REFERRED TO AS NARROW LOTS, LAR ACCESS MUST BE VIA A FLAGSTAFF OR A SHARED DRIVEWAY OR PAE.
ANOTHER OPTION FOR PROPERTY SIZES LESS THAN 15,000 SQUARE SQUARE FEET IS TO PROPOSE A COMBINED DRIVEWAY APPROACH.
UM, ONE DRIVEWAY APPROACH FOR LOTS THAT ARE NARROW THAN 40 FEET.
UM, IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL STANDARDS, LOTS WITH LESS THAN 40 FEET FRONTAGE ON A STREET OR SHARED DRIVEWAY ARE REFERRED TO AS NARROW LOTS.
INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS WILL BE A MAXIMUM OF 12 FEET WIDE FOR NARROW LOTS LESS THAN 40 FEET WIDE.
SO IF THERE IS AN ODD LOT, UM, IF SOMEONE IS PROPOSING THREE LOTS, TWO OF THEM WILL SHARE THE 24 FEET COMMON DRIVEWAY APPROACH AND THE THIRD LOT CAN HAVE, UM, A 12 FEET INDIVIDUAL DRIVE.
UM, 10 FEET BUILDING LINES AND 19 FEET GARAGE BUILDING LINES ARE REQUIRED FOR GARAGES FACING THE STREET FOR LOTS WITH STREET FREIGHTING FACING GARAGES.
ONE THIRD OF THE STRUCTURE ALONG THE STREET MUST BE OCCUPIABLE SPACE.
IN CASE OF LOTS THAT ARE NARROW THAN 40 FEET AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE ONE THIRD REQUIREMENT, THEN THERE IS AN OPTION TO PROVIDE FUNCTIONAL BALCONIES ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
FOR SIDE AND REAR ROAD OR, UH, LOADING
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LOTS, UM, UNITS ALONG THE STREET MUST PROVIDE AN ENTRY FEATURE FACING THE STREET AND MUST PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO SIDEWALKS.THIS IS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF SHARED DRIVEWAY DEVELOPMENTS, UM, HAVING THEIR SIDE ALONG THE PUBLIC STREET, WE WANT TO CORRECT THAT TO HELP THE HOMES FACE THE STREET FOR DEVELOPMENTS WITH FLAG LOTS ACCESS WILL BE SHARED BY ALL LOTS THAT AB ABOVE THE FLAGSTAFF.
THE FLAGSTAFF CANNOT BE LONGER THAN 200 FEET FROM THE STREET, UM, THAT HAS A ROADWAY.
GUEST PARKING RESERVES MUST BE LOCATED WITHIN THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND IN TERMS OF PARKING, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT ONE PARKING SPACE BE PROVIDED FOR UNITS SMALLER THAN 1500, UM, UNITS EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN 1500 SQUARE FEET AND TWO PARKING SPACES FOR UNITS GREATER THAN 1500 SQUARE FEET.
MARKET-BASED PARKING IS ALLOWED AND, UM, GUEST PARKING SPACE OF ONE PER EVERY SIX UNITS WHEN IT IS A SHARED DRIVEWAY OR PAE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS AN EXISTING REGULATION ALREADY, UM, THE GUEST PARKING REQUIREMENT AND, UM, THE REQUIRED PARKING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, UM, UNDERNEATH THE UNIT.
IT CAN BE DETACHED, BUT IT MUST BE WITHIN THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
SO HERE ARE EXAMPLES TO SHOW, UM, THE SHARED DRIVEWAY DEVELOPMENT OR ALLEY ACCESS DEVELOPMENTS.
THESE ARE THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS WE WANNA ENCOURAGE.
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OR IMAGES FROM THE ORDINANCE DRAFT THAT YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED AND YOU MAY BE REVIEWING IS TO SHOW WHAT THAT ENTRY FEATURE ENCROACHMENT LOOKS LIKE.
SO IF THERE IS ADEQUATE ROOM FOR SIDEWALKS AND OTHER UTILITIES, THE ENTRY FEATURE TO HELP THE HOMES FACE THE STREET CAN ENCROACH UP TO FOUR FEET WITHIN THE FIVE FOOT REDUCED BUILDING LINE.
WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS PROVIDES ADDITIONAL BUILDABLE AREA FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN THEY'RE CHOOSING TO DO, UM, SHARED DRIVER DEVELOPMENTS.
THIS IS IDENTIFYING THE REDUCED BUILDING LINE, UM, FOR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THAT ARE 80 FEET OR LESS, HOW HOMES CAN FRONT THE STREET.
THIS IS THE COMBINED DRIVEWAY APPROACH, UM, THAT I MENTIONED.
IF PROPOSING NARROW LOTS AND THE PROPERTY SIZE IS LESS THAN 1500 SQUARE, 15,000 SQUARE FEET, UM, ONE DRIVEWAY APPROACH CAN SERVE TWO PROPERTIES.
UM, BECAUSE WE ARE PROPOSING 1500 SQUARE FEET, UM, UNITS CAN HAVE ONE PARKING SPACE, IDEALLY HOMES WITH ONE CAR GARAGES OR ONE CAR IN THE GARAGE AND ONE ON THE DRIVEWAY CAN ALSO BE PROPOSED AND, UH, THIS DESIGN COULD BE UTILIZED TO BENEFIT IN THAT MANNER.
THIS IS TO SHOW, UM, AN IMAGE OF HOW THE ONE THIRD, UM, OF THE UNIT MUST COME TO THE FRONT, HOW THAT REGULATION LOOKS LIKE, UM, AND A REAL TIME EXAMPLE OF THAT.
UM, THE COMBINED DRIVEWAY APPROACH, UM, IS SOME MORE EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND ALSO THE REQUIREMENT ABOUT IF THE LOTS ARE TOO NARROW TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT ONE THIRD, UH, HOME.
TO COME TO THE FRONT THERE IS AN OPTION TO PROVIDE BALCONIES AND DURING ONE OF OUR MEETINGS IT WAS ALSO PROPOSED THAT INSTEAD OF REQUIRING BALCONIES, UM, MAYBE PROVIDING WINDOWS LARGE, UM, WINDOWS CAN ALSO BE AN OPTION.
SO WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED.
WITH THAT, I'M READY FOR QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
I DO NOT SEE ANY HANDS RAISED AT THIS POINT.
AND, UH, TAMMY, I CANNOT SEE THEM ALL.
SO MATTHEW CAMPUS FIRST, BUT JUST ALSO CURTIS DAVIS AND STEVE CURRY PUT IN THE CHAT THAT THEY'RE NOW PRESENT IN THE MEETING.
UH, ALRIGHT, SO, UH, UH, MATTHEW, ARE YOU THERE? YEAH, I'M HERE.
UH, UH, JUST A QUESTION ON THE GUEST PARKING.
UH, IF YOU CREATE ANY ON-STREET PARKING THAT WAS NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, DOES THAT COUNT TOWARDS IF A PORTION OF IT IS OVERLYING THE PROPERTY LINE? UM, THE STRAIGHT ANSWER
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IS NO, IT DOES NOT.THE GUEST PARKING HAS TO BE WITHIN THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY AND THE, UM, ON STREET PARKING THAT WE ARE SAVING IS FOR ANY OTHER USERS OF THE STREET FOR THE PUBLIC.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT QUESTION THOUGH? DIRECTOR? GO AHEAD.
EXPLAIN, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW YOU'RE CREATING, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THE DEVELOPMENT DO IN ORDER TO CREATE MORE ON STREET PARKING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, THERE'S AN OPEN DITCH SCENARIO WHERE YOU'RE DOING A NEW CURB CUT AND IT'S STILL OPEN DITCH.
BUT IF YOU'RE PAVING OVER THAT, PROVIDING PARKING, UH, IN THAT ADJACENT TO THE RIGHT OF WAY, SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY TAKING UP ROAD SPACE, LIKE SOME OF THE AREAS IN THE HEIGHTS HAVE, UH, JUST OPEN DITCH ON SIDES AND SOME, IF YOU INFILL THAT OPEN DITCH AND PUT A CULVERT AND PUT PARKING ON TOP OF THAT.
UM, DO WE ALLOW, UH, I'M ASKING PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, DO WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO COVER OPEN DITCHES ANYMORE? MR. SMITH? RICHARD, ARE YOU THERE? YES, SIR.
I GOT THE QUESTION IS ARE WE ALLOWED, UH, THE DIRECTOR WAS ASKED, WELL, DIRECTOR, IF YOU WOULD REPEAT YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE.
DOES, DOES THE CITY OF HOUSTON ALLOW PEOPLE TO, UH, PERMIT TO GET A PERMIT TO COVER AN OPEN DITCH, PUT IN A CULVERT AND COVER AN OPEN DITCH? UH, LAST I WAS AWARE WE DID NOT, UM, THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH.
I WOULD HAVE TO, I KNOW AHMED GOLY IS ON WITH THE CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE TO SHOW THAT WE GO AHEAD.
I I THINK WE'LL FOLLOW UP LATER.
BUT MATTHEW, THANK FOR BRINGING THAT ISSUE UP TO OUR KNOWLEDGE THAT MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE, SO WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK.
UM, I'VE GOT, UH, NEXT IS LISA CLARK AND THEN MIKE DISH BERGER.
SORRY, I'M FIGHTING A HEAD COLD.
MY FIRST QUESTION, SAVITA IS, UM, THESE NARROW LOTS, DO THEY APPLY JUST IN THE CITY LIMITS OR IS THIS WITHIN THE ETJ AS WELL? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.
NARROW LOTS ARE POSSIBLE TODAY IN THE ETJ AND IT PROBABLY WILL BE POSSIBLE IN, UM, IN FUTURE.
ALSO, THE, THE REAL QUESTION I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK DEEPER ABOUT IS ABOUT THE COMMON DRIVEWAY APPROACH, WHICH IS, UM, PRETTY MUCH THE IDM REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT GETS PERMITTED AFTER THE PLAT GETS APPROVED.
UM, WE ARE STILL IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT, ON WHICH COUNTY WHO, WHO'S WHICH COUNTY? HARRIS COUNTY.
HOW ABOUT FORT BEND AND MONTGOMERY AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF 'EM THAT WE HAVE ETJ IN? UH, WE, YEAH, WE WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH ALL OF THEM, YES.
I MEAN THIS IS A PRETTY STRICT REQUIREMENT, SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY FOLKS.
UM, AND THEN ON THE EXHIBIT THAT YOU SHOWED, UM, ON THE SHARED DRIVEWAY, CAN YOU TELL ME, WAS THAT A 19 FOOT GARAGE SETBACK? UM, SLIDE 31 YOU MEAN? UM, LET'S GO DOOR WAS JUST A SINGLE EXHIBIT SHOWING YEAH, THAT ONE.
WE, UM, SHOWED A 19 FOOT GARAGE BUILDING LINE ON THIS.
AND THEN, SO IF I'M PARKING IN FRONT OF MY GARAGE THERE, HOW MUCH SPACE DO I HAVE ON THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT SIDE? THE FAR SIDES OF EACH HOME ON THAT CURVE? HOW MUCH SPACE DO I HAVE TO PARK THE LENGTH? UM, IN FACT, AFTER COORDINATING WITH PUBLIC WORKS, THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CURVE HERE.
IT CAN BE AN ANGLED LINE GOING FROM THE 24 FEET ENTRY POINT I, UH, TO, TO THE GARAGE.
UM, DID THE, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO SHARE THE VIDEO? UM, YES.
UH, BUT MS. CLARK, IF THAT, IF, IF SO THERE IS, IS NO NOTHING, UH, FROM PUBLIC WORKS THAT IS REQUIRED OTHER THAN UH, UH, ENTRANCE CURVE AT THE ENTRANCE PORTION OF THE STREET.
AND THEN IT CAN, IT CAN BASICALLY WIDEN INTO THE WIDTH OF THE DR WIDTH OF THE GARAGE.
SO WHILE I SHARE A VIDEO, YOU COULD SEE THAT'S HOW WE HAVE SORT OF, UH, HELPED WITH THE HELP OF PUBLIC WORKS TEAM DRAWN, UH, THE SITE, HOW IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO I'M GONNA STEAL THE SCREEN NOW, SARITA? YEAH, SURE.
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YOU ALL ABLE TO SEE THE SCREEN? OKAY? YES.SO THIS IS ONE TEMPLATE AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE OTHER ONE.
SOME MUSIC WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT WAS ONE WHEN THE CAR WAS COMING FROM THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AND MAKING A RIGHT TURN.
UM, LET ME OPEN THE OTHER VIDEO.
IT JUST DOESN'T ALLOW ME TO OH, OKAY.
AND, AND DTI, I CAN'T READ THE, UM, OH, THE DIMENSIONS.
DIMENSIONS, YEAH, THE DIMENSIONS.
LIKE, SO HOW LONG IS THAT VEHICLE? HOW MUCH SPACE DO I HAVE TO PARK THERE? I I CAN'T READ IT.
I CAN, I CAN DO SOME SOMETHING.
SO THIS IS, THIS WAS A TRADITIONAL 50 FEET LOT DIVIDED INTO 2 25 FI, 25 AND 25, UH, LOTS.
THE DRIVEWAY, THE COMMON ENTRANCE THAT, UH, ARE IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IS 24 FEET WIDE.
CAN YOU GUYS SEE MY CURSOR? YES.
SO IT'S 12 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THIS REMAINDER WOULD BE ABOUT 13 FEET.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE 13 FEET SPACE.
UM, SO IF A CAR WAS TO BE PARKED HERE, UM, MAYBE THIS HAS TO GO FURTHER.
UM, THE TURN HAS TO BECOME WIDER AND THAT HAS ALSO ALLOWABLE.
THE ONLY THING CONCERN WITH IF THIS WAS TO BECOME AN ENTIRELY PAVED WOULD BE IF THAT, IF THE CAR WOULD DIRECTLY DRIVE ONTO THE SIDEWALK.
SO TO PREVENT THAT, THERE SHOULD BE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, CURVE OR AN ANGLE SO THAT THE CARS ARE NOT DIRECTLY COMING OUT ONTO THE SIDEWALK.
SO THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO PREVENT THAT.
OTHER THAN THAT, THE DIMENSIONS ARE, THIS IS STILL, UM, 19 FEET BUILDING LINE.
AND FROM THERE THIS IS 19 FEET.
AND THE CAR HERE, UH, WAS THE TRUCK USED? UM, THE PICKUP TRUCK? YEAH, THE PICKUP LARGER VEHICLE WAS USED TO DO THE DESIGN.
DOES THAT HELP? UH, CHAIR AGAIN? YES, THAT WAS, UH, EXPLAINED IT.
ALRIGHT, UH, COACH ORISA CLARK, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL GO ON TO OUR NEXT, WHICH IS I'VE GOT MIKE, MIKE, MIKE BERGER, THEN SEAN MASS.
UM, WE, UNFORTUNATELY, WE JUST DUMPED A TON OF SLIDES.
UM, I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THERE ARE DETAILS.
THIS, THIS IS ALL ABOUT DETAILS AS WE SAID IT TWO YEARS AGO.
IT'S ABOUT WHAT THE WORDS SAY.
UM, THE, UH, ON THE ONE, ON THE ONE THIRD RULE THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE, UH, SECTION 1 57, IT CALLS FOR AN ENTRY WALK FROM THE FRONT PEDESTRIAN FROM THE FRONT DOOR TO THE SIDEWALK.
UH, THE WAY IT'S READ IN CHAPTER 42, THAT PRETTY MUCH MEANS ANY HOME IN HOUSTON, TEXAS NEEDS A ENTRY WALK FROM THEIR FRONT DOOR TO THE SIDEWALK, WHICH IS NOT COMMON.
IF YOU LOOK AT MOST PEOPLE LIKE IN OAK FOREST, GARDEN OAKS, I'M GONNA THROW OUT A BUNCH OF NEIGHBORHOODS, TANGLEWOOD NAME 'EM ALL.
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A SIDEWALK FROM THE FRONT DOOR TO THE SIDEWALK, THEY USUALLY TIE INTO THEIR DRIVEWAY.
AND SO I THINK CLARIFICATION NEEDS TO BE MADE ON THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THINK THAT YOU'RE NOW REQUIRING A WALKWAY ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT OF THE HOME LIKE YOU SEE THERE ON THE RIGHT.
YEAH, I MEAN, IF IT, UH, AND IT DOESN'T, IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY DIFFERENTIATION IN THERE.
YOUR, I THINK YOUR INTENTION PROBABLY WAS NARROW LOTS, WHICH I'M AGAINST ANYWAY, BUT I, I THINK, UH, IF YOU HAVE A 50 FOOT STEP BACK IN GARDEN OAK, BECAUSE THAT'S A LONG WALKWAY TO GET TO YOUR OPEN DITCH THERE.
SO, UH, COULD, COULD YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION FIRST IF THAT, AM I READING THAT RIGHT? AND IT'S IN SECTION 1 5 7.
IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT NARROW LOTS.
IT TALKS ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
I THOUGHT WE FIXED THAT, MIKE, IN THE NEW DRAFT THAT YOU RECEIVED.
UM, THIS, IT'S ONLY WHEN THE UNITS HAVE A REDUCED BUILDING LINE.
THAT'S WHEN WE ARE SAYING THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS MUST BE ESTABLISHED TO THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE NOW THE UNIT IS FRONT AND THE GARAGE IS FURTHER BACK.
FORGET SAVITA IF THAT'S IN THE, UNFORTUNATELY I GOT THIS YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND I HAD NO CHANCE TO SEE HOW CHANGED WITH THE OTHER ONE WE JUST DID.
SO YOU, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO THERE.
UM, UM, ALLEYWAYS, I'LL CONTINUE PUTTING THIS OUT THERE.
UM, NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN FOUR YEARS WITH THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS ON ALLEYWAYS.
THEY STOPPED PERMITTING A LOT OF ALLEYWAYS ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, AND ON OCCASION THEY LET ONE SLIDE IN.
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A CITY ORDINANCE, UH, CHAPTER 40, I BELIEVE IT IS.TALKING ABOUT IF YOU LIKE THAT CORNER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE MINUTE YOU TOUCH THAT ALLEYWAY, THE ALLEYWAY'S A CERTAIN SIZE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE, AND THE ALLEYWAY HAS TO BE ONE WAY.
YOU HAVE TO REDO THE ENTIRE ALLEYWAY.
SO IF YOU TOUCH THAT ALLEYWAY, I'M JUST, THE ALLEYWAY THING HAS JUST NOT EVER BEEN SETTLED.
RICHARD SMITH ON THIS CALL, HE PROBABLY AGREE WITH ME.
UM, MY, OUR SOLUTION WAS, AND WE'VE SAID THIS FROM ALL FROM THE TIME BEGINNING, IF THE SIDEWALK, I'M SORRY, THE ALLEYWAY'S BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE CITY OF HOUSTON FOR MAINTENANCE OR JUST ACCEPTED, THEY HAVE A BIG LIST OF ALLEYWAYS THEN YEAH.
REQUIRE BUILDERS TO HAVE TO USE THE ALLEYWAY.
WE WILL, WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON THAT.
IT'S JUST THAT THE CITY HAS DONE, THEY MADE ONE MINOR CHANGE TO CHAPTER NINE LAST YEAR, BUT EVEN TODAY, CHAPTER NINE, WHICH DEALS WITH DETENTION, THOSE ARE GOING ON THE CALL, THEY ASKED FOR DETENTION.
IF YOU ACTUALLY START WORKING ON THE ALLEYWAY, IT'S STILL IN CHAPTER NINE.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN FIXED LAST YEAR, COULD HAVE BEEN FIXED LAST WEEK.
SO I, I'M GOING TO ASSUME IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FIXED BECAUSE IT'S EASY FOR THEM TO FIX THESE TWO ITEMS ON ALLEYWAYS.
COULD YOU ADDRESS THE ALLEYWAYS, PLEASE? WHAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT? YEAH, SURE.
UM, WE HAVE HAD MEETINGS WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND, UM, IN THE NEXT VERSION OF AMENDMENTS, PART OF IDM CHANGES WILL BE THAT, UM, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY, UM, DRAINAGE CALCULATION OR FOR THE PORTION OF IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE ALLEYS, REGARDLESS OF IT'S CITY MAINTAINED OR NOT.
SO THAT'S THE PROGRESS THAT WE HAVE MADE.
AND WE ARE WORKING ON THE RED LINES RIGHT NOW.
UM, EXCUSE ME FOR, I HEARD THIS IN THE PAST, CONGRESS SAID THIS, LET'S PASS THE BILL FIRST AND THEN THINGS WILL GET CHANGED LATER.
I GUESS WE'D RATHER SEE THINGS CHANGE NOW THAT WE HAVE CERTAINTY THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE PUTTING SOMETHING IN CHAPTER 42 WITHOUT THE ACCOMPANYING PUBLIC WORK STUFF, IT DOESN'T WORK.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THAT UP.
BUT LET'S, LET'S GET TO THE, THE BIG ISSUE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT MY BIG ISSUE IS? IT'S THE COMMON DRIVEWAYS.
AND, UM, FIRST OF ALL, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE WHERE YOU SHOWED THE COMMON DRIVEWAY YOU SHOWED LISA.
IT SHOWS THE S THE, UH, YEAH, ON THAT ONE.
OKAY, J JUST FOR CLARIFICATION AGAIN, EVERYBODY ON THE CALL, THE HOME ON THE LEFT, THAT HOME IS SET, THE GARAGE IS SET BACK 40 FEET.
WE FOUND THE HOUSE WHEN GOOGLED IT, WENT TO, IT TOOK, TOOK SOME MEASUREMENTS AND THAT GARAGE IS THAT GARAGE.
THAT'S WHY THAT CAR IS PARKED IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE.
'CAUSE THAT'S A 40 FOOT SETBACK.
SO IT WORKS WITH A 40 FOOT SETBACK, UNFORTUNATELY IN HOUSTON ON 50 BY ONE HUNDREDS ISN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
UM, I'M GOING TO SAY AGAIN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS, LOOK AT THAT DRAWING AS YOU SEE RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND I SAW YOUR VIDEO IS VERY NICE.
BUT WHAT YOUR VIDEO ALSO SHOWED YOU CANNOT PARK A CAR IN YOUR DRIVEWAY AND GET INTO YOUR OTHER BAY.
LIKE YOU WERE JUST TRYING TO DO YOU ON THIS DRAWING, YOU WERE TRYING TO GET INTO THE RIGHT BAY WITH THE CAR.
IF I HAD A CAR PARKED IN FRONT OF THE LEFT BAY ON THE, ON THE, ON THE DRIVEWAY, THE 19 FOOT OF DRIVEWAY WE HAVE, THERE'S NO WAY YOUR CAR CAN GET BY THERE.
I'VE DRAWN, I'VE ACTUALLY GONE OUT TO A ONE OF MY SITES AND SPRAY PAINTED AND A CAR IS ALMOST SIX FEET WIDE.
AND AS YOU MAKE THAT TURN, YOU'RE GOING TO HIT YOUR OWN CAR.
AND THE WORST PART IS BACKING OUT.
YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING A 10 POINT TURN TRYING TO AVOID YOUR VEHICLE, TRYING TO AVOID PEDESTRIANS, TRYING TO AVOID GOING INTO THE OPEN DITCH, WHICH IS WHERE MOST OF THESE NARROW, WHERE WHAT Y'ALL CALL NARROW LOTS ARE BUILT.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT SAFETY CONCERN.
THE SECOND BIG CONCERN IS YOU'RE PUSHING ALL THE PARKING ON THIS HOME INTO THE STREET NEIGHBORS THAT I BUILD NEXT TO, THEY DO NOT WANT PARKING IN THE STREET.
THEY HATE PEOPLE PARKING IN THE STREET.
THEY PUT NO PARKING SIGNS UP EVERYWHERE.
AND SO, WHILE I KNOW YOU'RE ALLOWING TO HAVE ALL THIS SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK ON THE STREET, I THINK IF YOU QUIZ THE NEIGHBORS IN RICE MILITARY AND SHADY ACRES AND COTTAGE GROVE AND ON AND ON, THEY'LL TELL YOU GET THOSE CARS ON THE PROPERTY.
AND SO, UM, TO ME IT'S TWO ISSUES.
SAFETY IS THE NUMBER ONE BIG ISSUE.
AND ANYBODY WHO CAN JUST LOOK AT THAT DRAWING CAN GO, IF I PUT A CAR THERE LEFT OR RIGHT SIDES OF THOSE BAYS IN THE DRIVEWAY, YOU CANNOT GET OUT.
SO, UM, BRINGING THAT UP AGAIN, UH, AND I'VE TALKED, I'VE TALKED TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
I, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO NARROW THE, THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE, JUST HAVE SINGLE DRIVES, MAKE THE DRIVE UP, MAKE THE APPROACH ONLY 12 FOOT WIDE, BUT MAKE AN INDIVIDUAL FOR EACH HOME THAT'S SAFER THAN THE BUILDER CAN CENTER THE DRIVEWAY ON THE GARAGE.
AND THEN YOU'RE GOING LEFT OR RIGHT, ONLY TWO FEET.
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A LOT EASIER TO GET BY.THE OTHER PART IS, UM, YOU HAVE A 10 FOOT BUILDING LINE.
AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE A COLUMN, YOU'RE ONLY 10 FEET AWAY.
HOW CAN YOUR CAR MAKE THAT TURN SO FAST TO GO 10 FEET AND MAKE THAT RIGHT HAND TURN BACK INTO YOUR GARAGE AGAIN? SO, UM, BRING THIS UP AGAIN.
UM, I WANT, I WANT THE COMMITTEE TO HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING AND JUST LOOK AT THAT DRAWING AND ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION.
WOULD YOU EVER BUY THAT HOME? THE ANSWER IN YOUR HEAD IS PROBABLY NO WAY IN HECK OR IF I BOUGHT IT, I WOULD BE TRYING TO FILL CONCRETE IN OR TRYING TO FILL THAT DITCH IN SO I COULD BACK UP STRAIGHT LIKE, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
AND SEEMS LIKE NARROW LOTS ARE BEING PICKED ON VERSUS REGULAR SINGLE FAMILY.
AND THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND, AND ARBITRARILY 40 FEET CAME, CAME OUT OF THIS, UH, COMMITTEE.
I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 40 Y Y'ALL SUGGESTED 40 FEET AT STATE THAT WAY.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY COMMENTS.
UH, TAMMY, I SHOW SEAN MASEK FOLLOWED BY UH, PETER FRIEDMAN.
SEAN, ARE YOU THERE? UM, I AM, GO AHEAD.
UH, I MAY HAVE MISSED IT 'CAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF SLIDES HERE, BUT WAS THERE A, ON THE FLAG LOTS FOR EITHER A SINGLE USER LOT, FLAG LOT OR A COM SHARED FLAG ON THE STAFF? IS THERE A MINIMUM WIDTH OF THAT STAFF YOU TALKED ABOUT? I SAW THE LENGTH OF 200, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THE WIDTH DISCUSSION.
SO THE, THE WIDTH TODAY ALLOWED IS 20 FEET FOR THE STAFF PORTION.
HOWEVER, WE ARE REDUCING THAT TWO 16 FEET MINIMUM.
UM, AND THAT IS THAT 16 IF IT'S COMBINED AND SHARED OR 16 PER, PER PER FLAG? IN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE'S, IF IT'S SHARED, DO YOU HAVE TWO HOUSES BACK? IS IT TWO STAFFS OF 16 OR IS IT THEY CAN SHARE THE 16 FOOT STAFF, ONE STAFF, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, ONE STAFF OF 16 FEET AND THE UNITS TODAY, WHAT IS NOT CLEAR IN THE ORDINANCE IS THAT WHEN A STAFF IS PROVIDED, THE UNITS DO NOT, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT THAT BOTH THE UNITS HAVE TO SHARE THE STAFF, BUT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THAT LANGUAGE BE IN THERE.
SO IF THERE IS A 16 FEET STAFF, BOTH THE UNITS COULD SHARE THE SAME STAFF TO GET
WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAY CUTS AND IT HELPS TO HAVE THE SAME, UM, IMPERVIOUS COVER TO BE DISTRIBUTED AMONG TWO LOTS.
SO THE DETENTION VOLUME CALCULATION WILL ALSO BE LESS.
SO ONE STAFF SERVES BOTH THE PROPERTIES.
UM, SO THE INDIVIDUAL LOT LINES MAY BE LESS THAN THE 16 FEET TO GO DOWN THE STAFF.
AND IS THERE A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS PER ONE STAFF? UM, HOW THE DESIGN WORKS? I THINK IT COULD BE, UM, UP TO FOUR OR MAYBE SIX.
UH, ESSENTIALLY WE ARE REDUCING THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN LIKE A SHARED DRIVEWAY AND FLAG BLOOD.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY LIKE A SHARED DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S HOW THE STAFF ALSO FUNCTION.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I GUESS I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE DIFFERENTIATION WHEN WE COME DOWN THE ROAD WITH CLADDING AND LAYING OUT, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS AND SUBDIVISIONS WHERE WE MAKE SURE WE'RE CALLING IT WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE CALLED DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, I SHOW PETER FRIEDMAN FOLLOWED BY CO-CHAIR LISA CLARK.
UM, I GOT A, UH, COMMENT AND A, AND A QUESTION.
UM, THE COMMENT IS, UH, LIKE MIKE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WE LIVE IN A, A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS OPEN DITCHES THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE ROAD AND IT MAKES PARKING ON THESE NARROW STREETS TOUGH TO BEGIN WITH TO GET TO GET BY.
SO BRINGING MORE STREET PARKING IN SOME AREAS I THINK WOULD BE A DETRIMENT TO THAT AREA.
UM, I COULD SEE WHY IN OTHER AREAS WOULD BE IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT, BUT I KNOW IN SOME AREAS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POTENTIALLY A, A POSSIBILITY OF LOOKING AT AREAS THAT HAVE, UM, LESS WIDTH IN THE STREET AS AN OPTION WHERE THIS WOULD NOT APPLY.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA THROW THAT OUT THERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS, THERE WAS A, I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME INCENTIVES EARLY ON THAT WE DISCUSSED WHEN WE HAD THE COMMON DRIVEWAY WITH THE REAR LOADING, UH, ON SETBACKS AND SOME OTHER OTHER PIECES.
IS THAT STILL IN PLAY? IS THAT PART OF THIS AS WELL? YES.
I'M SORRY IF I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT, BUT YES, THE HIGHER DENSITY IS ONE OF THE PROPOSALS.
UM, IF RARE ACCESS IS CHOSEN, THE DENSITY IS NO LONGER 27 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, BUT IT CAN BE 35 DWELLING, IT CAN BE UP TO 35 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, AND THERE IS ALSO FOR CORNER PROPERTIES, IF THERE IS A VISIBILITY TRIANGLE INSTEAD OF, UM, UNITS ENCROACHING INTO THE, UH, STRUCTURE ENCROACHING INTO THE VISIBILITY TRIANGLE AT 20 FEET,
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THE ENCROACHMENT CAN HAPPEN AT 10 FEET HEIGHT.SO THAT IS ALSO AN ADVANTAGE, UM, FOR DOING THE RARE LOT RARE ACCESS AND OBVIOUSLY THE PARKING REGULATIONS.
AND ALSO THERE IS REDUCED BUILDING LINES WHICH ALLOW FOR MORE BUILDABLE AREA WHEN CHOOSING TO DO REAR ACCESS.
SO YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS THE ONE I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE BUILDING LINES AND THE SETBACKS.
DO YOU, DO YOU RECALL WHAT THOSE ARE OFFHAND? YES.
UM, FOR LOCAL STREETS, THE REDUCED BUILDING LINE IS FIVE FEET AND THEN THE ENTRY FEATURE CAN ENCROACH INTO THE FIVE FEET IF THERE IS ALREADY SIDEWALKS AND UTILITY ROOM FOR UTILITIES ESTABLISHED.
AND FOR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES LESS THAN 80 FEET, UM, WE ARE PROPOSING REDUCED BUILDING LINE OF 15 FEET.
UM, SLIDE NUMBER, SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE SLIDE NUMBER HERE.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE BUILDING LINE REQUIREMENT.
ALRIGHT, I SHOW, UH, CO-CHAIR LISA CLARK TO BE FOLLOWED BY FRED MATHIS.
LISA, UM, SAVITA ON THE SIDEWALKS.
I KNOW MIKE WAS ASKING ABOUT IT, BUT I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THAT TOO.
I'M LOOKING AT THE RED LINE DRAFT ON PAGE 23, AND MAYBE I'M READING IT WRONG, BUT IT SAYS THE REQUIRED ENTRANCE MUST PROVIDE A MINIMUM THREE FOOT WIDE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO THE NEAREST PUBLIC SIDEWALK.
SO WOULDN'T THAT MEAN YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR SIDEWALK FROM YOUR FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE ALL THE WAY TO THE SIDEWALK NEAR THE STREET? CAN YOU GIMME THE SECTION NUMBER THAT YOU JUST SAID? YEAH, IT'S ON PAGE 23 AND IT IS SECTION 42 DASH 1 65.
UM, THAT IS THE COURTYARD 1 65 IS I THINK COURTYARDS OR YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAY BE TELL ME, TELL ME WHERE THE CORRECTION IS ON THE SIDEWALK THEN.
UM, E ESSENTIALLY ORIGINAL LANGUAGE.
WHEN WE GAVE THE SIDE BY SIDE, IT USED TO SAY THAT ALL UNITS MUST PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO THE SIDEWALKS.
AND THE QUESTION FROM MIKE WAS WHY DO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION WHEN THE STRUCTURE IS FURTHER BACK? THEN THE CORRECTION WE MADE IS ONLY WHEN THERE IS REDUCED BUILDING LINES LIKE FOR SHARED DRIVEWAYS, UM, THAT'S WHEN THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION OF THREE FEET IS NEEDED, WHICH ALREADY, UM, IS THE REQUIREMENT TODAY.
UM, SO IT'S NOT FOR ALL LOTS AND I REQUESTED THAT CORRECTION.
UM, IF IT'S NOT IN THERE, I APOLOGIZE, I'M NOT SEEING IT, BUT IF YOU WOULD CHECK THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
I CAN'T GET OFF OF THE, THE, UH, NARROW LOTS IN THE ETJ BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I DEVELOP AND WHEN I DEVELOP MY SUBDIVISIONS, I DO HAVE 40 FOOT, SOMETIMES I HAVE A LITTLE, A LITTLE MORE NARROW MM-HMM
BUT I DECIDE, AND I DEFINE THROUGH MY DESIGN GUIDELINES WHERE MY DRIVEWAYS GO, THE WIDTH OF MY DRIVEWAYS, THEY ARE AT A VERY MINIMUM WIDTH.
UH, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD PUT IN THE ETJ.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD PUT IN THE CITY, BUT I'M DEFINITE THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO IN THE ETJ.
UM, I JUST DON'T THINK IT WORKS OUT MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES.
'CAUSE IT'S GONNA AFFECT NOT, WE ARE NOT DOING INDIVIDUAL INFILL, WE'RE DOING LARGE TRACKS THAT ARE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES AND IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN AN INFILL.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE VERY HARMFUL.
UM, THERE WERE COMPARISONS THAT WERE BEING DRAWN BETWEEN THE IMAGINATION ZONES AND THESE, UH, REGULATIONS AND WE ARE STILL IN THE WORKS ON THAT.
I'LL FIND AN UPDATE, BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE POINT YOU MADE.
WE WILL DEFINITELY CONSIDER YOUR SUGGESTION.
AND I'M NOT DOING IMAGINATION ZONES, I'M DOING TRUE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES, WHICH ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN EITHER OF THESE.
AND, AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BUNCH OF DEVELOPERS IN THE SUBURBS THAT ARE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY DEVELOPERS.
UH, FRED MATHIS FROM THE COUNTY HAS RAISED HIS HAND.
MAYBE HE WANTS TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THIS.
FRED, ARE YOU THERE? YES, I AM.
UM, WE'VE PREVIOUSLY HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY ABOUT MU AND NOW WE'RE STARTING TO, UH, HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY ABOUT THE NARROW LOTS.
I STILL HAVE TO GET WITH, UH, MY PEOPLE UP IN THIS, IN THE STANDARDS DEPARTMENT.
UM, MY SEPARATE QUESTION WAS ABOUT FLAG LOTS.
CAN YOU BRING UP THE SLIDE ABOUT THE FLAG LOTS? THE 16 FOOT WIDTH? I DON'T KNOW IF I PUT IN AN EXHIBIT.
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I'LL HAVE TO FIND THE EXHIBIT FROM THE ORDINANCE.ALRIGHT, MR. MATHIS, GO AHEAD.
UH, THE 16 FOOT WIDTH STAFF WIDTH FOR THE FLAG LOTS EITHER FOR ONE FLAG LOT OR DUAL FLAG LOTS.
MY QUESTION IS WITH THE 16 FOOT WIDTH, HOW CAN YOU GET A DRIVEWAY IN THERE WITH TWO CURB CUTS AND STILL BE WITHIN THE, THE LOT PROPERTY? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE BIGGER.
WHY SHOULD THERE BE TWO CURB CUTS? IT'S ONE CURB CUT SERVING ALL OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ABOUT THE STAFF ONE, I MEAN, YOU HAVE ONE, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A DRIVEWAY AND YOU HAVE A CURB CUT ON EITHER SIDE, RIGHT? CURB RADIUS YOU MEAN? CURB RADIUS, YEAH.
SO I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THE, UM, DRIVEWAY, NOT INCLUDING THE CURB RADIUS.
SO THE CURB RADIUS IS ALWAYS FOUR FEET OUTSIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY WIDTH.
SO 16 PLUS FOUR PLUS FOUR, YEAH.
16 PLUS FOUR PLUS FOUR, THAT MEANS 24, BUT YOU'RE CALLING OUT 16.
BUT THE CURB RATE IS, I WOULD THINK WOULD BE HALF THE BEAST WITHIN THE, UH, WITHIN THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE LOT LINES OF THAT PROPERTY.
RIGHT, BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE.
SO IN THIS MIDDLE EXAMPLE, IF I'M SAYING THE STAFF HAS TO BE 16 FEET, THE CURB RADIUS WILL, UM, BE ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY ADJACENT LOT, WHICH ALL FOUR ARE SHARING THE AXIS.
SO FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE, THERE IS 16 FEET DRIVEWAY WITH FOUR FEET CURVE RADIUS ON EITHER SIDES.
AND THE FRONT LOTS ARE ALSO TAKING ACCESS FROM THE STAFF SO THEY'RE ALL PART OF ONE DEVELOPMENT, SO THEY CAN HAVE THE CURVE RADIUS IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY.
THIS IS SHOWING STRICTLY WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OUT TO THE STREET, YOU GENERALLY HAVE SIX TO 10 FEET.
SO THOSE CURB RADIO, I WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ON THE PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT SEEING THAT 16 FOOT WOULD PROBABLY EXTEND OUT A LITTLE MORE AND THEN THE CURB RADIO WOULD START.
AVITA, I DO NOT SEE ANY MORE HANDS RAISED COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
ARE THERE ANY MORE, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IS THE VIDEO THAT WAS SHARED ON GONNA BE MADE AVAILABLE? IT CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE.
I CAN SEND IT TO ALL OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
IT'S JUST THAT THE DOWNLOADING TOOK SOME TIME SO WE, WE'LL, WE'LL FIND OUT A MEANS TO SEND IT.
IF YOU CAN SEND A LINK TO IT, THAT MIGHT WORK.
ANYONE ELSE? COMMITTEE MEMBERS? ALRIGHT, SABITA, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT OUR HANDS FULL.
WE'VE GOT LOTS OF GOOD QUESTIONS AND LOTS OF GOOD COMMENTS AND ALL OF THEM TO BE, UH, GIVEN THOUGHTFULLY TO US.
AND I NEED TO BE LOOKED INTO, OF COURSE, WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
SO THE NEXT ONE, UM, SLIDE 35 PLEASE.
DEVON, I AM NOT SEEING IF THE SCREEN IS BEING SHARED.
THEN THE LAST, UM, HOUSING TYPE THAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS TODAY IS THE COURTYARD STYLE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, HOUSTON DOESN'T HAVE THIS OPTION CURRENTLY, BUT WE FEEL THIS TYPE AND SIZE OF HOUSING COULD BE A REAL BENEFIT TO THOSE SEEKING AN OPPORTUNITY INTO THE HOME OWNERSHIP AND FOR THOSE OF A SMALLER HOUSEHOLD SIZE, LIKE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS OR CHILDREN'S, UH, FOR STARTING OUT HOME WANTING TO BE NEAR WHERE THEY GREW UP.
UM, SO THIS KIND OF HOUSING IS BASICALLY A CONCEPT WHERE HOMES ARE SURROUNDED AROUND A COMMON GREEN SPACE.
SO THIS IS LIKE A CLUSTER HOME OF, UM, SAVITA.
STAR SIX TO MUTE 'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING SOME INTERFERENCE.
SO IN THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, A CLUSTER OF SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEX HOMES ARE LOCATED AROUND THE PRIVATELY MANAGED, UH, SHARED COURTYARD.
THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT, UH, IS AVAILABLE, UH, AROUND THE NATION AND, UM, IT'S CALLED POCKET NEIGHBORHOODS OR COTTAGE CODES.
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OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS DO NOT PERMIT THIS TYPE FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE ENDED UP WITH SOME DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THE SHARED DRIVER DEVELOPMENT USED THIS CONCEPT AND, UM, USE THEIR BACKYARDS TO KIND OF COMBINE THEM TO CREATE A COURTYARD APPEAL.SO WITH THESE AMENDMENTS, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS, UM, THAT THESE KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS, THE PROPERTY WILL BE PLOTTED AS LOTS.
SO THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS ARE FEE SIMPLE, LOTS SURROUNDED AROUND A COURTYARD SPACE.
THE MINIMUM THE PROPERTY SIZE HAS TO BE MINIMUM 50 FEET, UM, WITH 50 FEET FRONTAGE AND A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THE PROPERTY DEPTH HAS TO BE ONE 50 FEET, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR FILE FIGHTING PURPOSES.
THE LOTS CAN FRONT A COURTYARD ONLY OR THEY CONFRONT ALLEYS.
THEY CAN FRONT COURTYARD ACCESS DRIVES PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS OR PUBLIC STREETS.
THERE WILL NOT BE ANY RESTRICTION ON LOTS SIZE LOT WIDTH OR DENSITY, BUT THERE IS A HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON THE STRUCTURES AND THEY CANNOT BE GREATER THAN 30 FEET.
THE LOT SIZES THERE IS A MAXIMUM LOT SIZE OF 3,500 SQUARE FEET AND UNIT SIZES, UM, OF 1500 SQUARE FEET IS THE MAXIMUM LIMIT.
ALL COMMON AREAS MUST BE UNDER COMMON BINDING AGREEMENT.
SO THESE ARE, UM, THE STANDARDS THAT WE ARE ESTABLISHED FOR COURTYARD STYLE DEVELOPMENTS.
IN TERMS OF ACCESS, ALLEY ACCESS, UM, IS ENCOURAGED FOR PROPERTIES THAT ABORT AN ALLEY AND ESPECIALLY IF IT'S CORNER PROPERTIES ABORTING AN ALLEY, IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET THE ALLEY STARTED AND TAKE ACCESS FROM THERE.
UM, OTHERWISE LER ACCESS COULD ALSO BE FROM SHARED DRIVEWAYS, PAES, OR COURTYARD ACCESS DRIVE.
INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS FROM PUBLIC STREETS TO THE LOTS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED.
A TOTAL OF 50% OF LOTS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION MUST FACE THE MAIN COURTYARD OR THE PUBLIC STREET.
SO THIS IS TO ENCOURAGE MORE HOMES FACING THE STREET OR FACING THE COURTYARD.
THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS FROM UNITS TO THE COURTYARD AND PARKING AND SIDEWALK MUST BE PROVIDED.
THE PARKING CAN BE DETACHED FROM THE UNITS AND THEREFORE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR, UM, THE PATHWAYS TO CONNECT TO PARKING AND ALSO TO THE COMMON GREEN SPACE.
PROVIDE COURTYARD SPACE OF ONE 50 SQUARE FEET PER LOT AND AT LEAST 12 FEET WIDE.
SO THAT'S THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COURTYARD SPACE.
THE MAIN COURTYARD IS A MINIMUM SIZE OF FOUR 80 SQUARE FEET WITH 20 FEET DISTANCE BETWEEN STRUCTURES ACROSS THE COURTYARD.
SO IF THERE ARE STRUCTURES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE COURTYARD, THEY HAVE TO BE DISTANCED 20 FEET, UM, AT LEAST.
IN TERMS OF BUILDING LINE, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE WANNA ENCOURAGE THE HOMES TO FRONT THE STREET AND BE CLOSER TO THE STREETS.
SO THERE IS FIVE FOOT BUILDING LINE PROPOSED ALONG LOCAL AND COLLECTIVE STREETS AND 15 FEET, UH, BUILDING LINE ALONG WHICH AFFAIRS LESS THAN 80, LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO 80 FEET.
UH, THE UNITS ALONG THE STREET, UH, FACE THE STREET WITH AN ENTRY FEATURE AND THE ENTRY FEATURE CAN ENCROACH UP TO FOUR FEET INTO THE FIVE FOOT BUILDING LINE PROVIDED.
UM, THERE IS ROOM FOR SIDEWALKS AND OTHER UTILITIES.
THE PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENTS ARE ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT.
IF THE UNITS ARE LESS THAN 1500 SQUARE FEET AND TWO PARKING SPACES.
UM, FOR UNITS 1500 SQUARE FEET OR LARGER, THE, I THINK THERE IS AN ERROR ON THE SLIDE.
THE ONE PARKING SPACE FOR, FOR COURTYARD STYLE DEVELOPMENTS, IT IS ONE PARKING SPACE, UH, PER UNIT THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR LESS.
AND FOR UNITS A THOUSAND TO 1500 SQUARE FEET, IT'S TWO SPACES AND UNITS LARGER THAN 1500 SQUARE FEET WILL NOT BE ALLOWED.
SO THIS, UM, THE FIRST TWO BULLETS MUST BE CORRECTED.
GUEST PARKING, UH, SPACE WILL BE REQUIRED, WHICH IS ONE PER EVERY SIX UNITS.
AND THE GUEST PARKING MUST BE LOCATED WITHIN THE PRIVATE PROPERTY LOCATED.
UH, PARKING CAN BE DETACHED FROM THE UNITS AND IT CAN BE LOCATED ON THE SIDE OF REAR OF THE PROPERTIES.
UH, WITH THAT, I'M READY FOR QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS, UM, YOU, UH, WE ARE DISCUSSING COURTYARDS, COURTYARD STYLE DEVELOPMENT.
I WILL SAY I WAS IN SANTA BARBARA AND SAW A LOT OF THAT.
IT'S REALLY AMAZING AND I SAW A LOT OF RETIREES AND YOUNG FAMILIES LIVING IN THOSE.
SO I DO NOT SEE ANY HANDS RAISED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
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GO RIGHT AHEAD, PLEASE.UM, WHAT WAS THE JUSTIFICATION OR REASON BEHIND THE DIFFERENCE IN THE THOUSAND OR 1500 SQUARE FEET CUT OFF FOR ONE PARKING SPACE AS SOME OF THE, UH, OTHER LOTS ARE 1500 AND THIS ONE'S A THOUSAND? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, IT WAS DONE INTENTIONALLY, AT LEAST PROPOSED INTENTIONALLY.
THE IDEA IS THAT IN COURTYARD STYLE DEVELOPMENTS, WE ARE TRYING TO PROMOTE SMALLER HOMES.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY JUST LIKE FOR ADUS, WE ARE PROPOSING THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR LESS.
THERE IS NO PARKING SIMILAR TO THAT.
WE ARE ENCOURAGING MORE SMALLER UNITS, LIKE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR LESS TO HAVE ONE SPACE PER UNIT.
AND IF PROPOSING LARGER THAN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, UM, THE PROPOSAL IS FOR TWO PARKING SPACES.
SO ESSENTIALLY TO ENCOURAGE SMALLER UNITS WAS THE IDEA BEHIND IT.
UM, SAVITA, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, SO JUST, UM, SO FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE WERE FOUR UNITS IN THE COURTYARD AND THE TWO BACK UNITS, LET'S JUST SAY HAD GARAGES MM-HMM
AND THEN BETWEEN THE GARAGES THERE WAS TWO MORE PARKING SPACES.
SO THE ONES IN BACK ARE LARGER, 1500, LET'S JUST SAY A THOUSAND PLUS, AND THE ONES IN FRONT ARE LESS THAN A THOUSAND.
SO YOU COULD LITERALLY HAVE GARAGES FOR THE TWO UNITS IN THE BACK, LET'S JUST SAY MM-HMM
AND THEN HAVE SPACE BETWEEN THEM FOR EVERYONE ELSE THAT WOULD SAY NOT BE COVERED AND HAVE THE SMALLER UNITS.
SO THERE'S REALLY A LOT OF ROOM FOR DEVELOPMENT HERE IN DIFFERENT SORTS OF WAYS.
SOME PEOPLE WANT GARAGES, SOME PEOPLE DON'T OR DON'T CARE.
SO THAT THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT, WOULD IT NOT? YES.
THERE IS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF DESIGN WITH THIS PARTICULAR OPTION.
I, UH, TAMMY, I DO NOT SEE ANY HANDS RAISED.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS LAST CHANCE TALK ABOUT COURTYARD STYLE DEVELOPMENT QUESTIONS.
AND OF COURSE WE HAVE THE CORRECTION ON PARKING WITH THE 1500 GOING TO LESS THAN A THOUSAND AND MORE THAN A THOUSAND, CORRECT? YEAH.
BY THE WAY, UH, SAVITA GUEST PARKING IS ONE PER EVERY SIX UNITS IS OUR EXPECTATION.
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA NOW IF THESE ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, FOURS OR FIVES OR SIXES? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF, OR IS THERE A SPECIFIC LAYOUT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ENCOURAGING, LIKE A MODEL PLAN? WE, WE HAVE SOME MODEL DESIGNS THAT WE'RE, UH, PREPARING A GUIDEBOOK.
UM, HOWEVER, IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR SITE SIZE IS AND HOW YOU'RE DESIGNING.
SO, UM, THE ANSWER IS I AM, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
SO, SO CHAIR GUYS, I, I'M SHARING THE SCREEN AND THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU DRAFT LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE SHOWN CERTAIN LAYOUTS AND JUST TO ENCOURAGE VARIETY OF IDEAS AND VARIETY OF WAYS, UH, IT CAN BE DONE AND WE WILL BE WORKING AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
WE WILL BE WORKING ON CREATING, UM, A GUIDE, A USER MANUAL KIND OF A THING, WHICH IS, WHICH WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE PRE PREPARED FOR WALKABLE PLACES.
SO, SO AN IDEA WITH MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC TO USE AND ONE IS SHOWN CURRENTLY.
YOU CAN SEE IT ON YOUR SCREEN.
THERE ARE CERTAIN EXHIBITS IN, IN EMBEDDED IN THE DRAFT LANGUAGE.
I DON'T KNOW, I I WAS WONDERING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN CHAPTER 26.
I WAS WONDERING IF THE, THE CODE HERE FOR THESE ONE FOR EVERY SIX UNITS, MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER ONE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, EVERY 40 UNITS JUST BECAUSE THERE IS NO GUEST PARKING, ALTHOUGH THERE WOULD BE SOME ON THE STREET, BUT, UH, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
I DO SEE A HAND RAISED TAMMY MATTHEW CAMP MR. CAMP, GO RIGHT AHEAD, PLEASE.
UH, A AGAIN, THIS WAS A, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE DRIVE, SHARED DRIVE FOR THESE, THE 12 TO 18 VERSUS THE 10 TO 16 ON THE A.
AGAIN, IS THAT, CAN THAT BE ADJUSTED BACK DOWN TO 10 TO 16? UM, AS WE, UM, LOOK AT COURTYARD STYLE DEVELOPMENTS, THE REASON BEHIND ALLOWING UP TO 18 FEET IS TO ALLOW, WE WERE TR TRYING TO DRAW PARALLEL BETWEEN THIS AND THE SHARED DRIVEWAY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ALLOWS 16 FEET SHARED S OR 18 FEET SHARED DRIVEWAYS.
AND THE REASON BEING, IT'S THE DEPTH OF THE PROPERTY, IF AT ALL FIRE EVER HAS TO USE IT, WHICH THEY DO NOT INTEND TO USE.
BUT, UM, KEEPING THAT PARALLEL IN MIND, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THE MINIMUM DRIVEWAY WIDTH CAN BE AS SMALL AS 12 FEET, BUT THE MAXIMUM WE ARE PROPOSING IS 18.
SO WE REALLY SHOULD FOCUS ON THE MAXIMUM HERE.
I THINK AVIDA, UM, IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, UH, I THINK ONE OTHER, UM, ADDITIONAL THOUGHT WAS
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MU ARE LIMITED TO EIGHT UNITS IN, IN THE CURRENT PROPOSAL MM-HMMTHE, THIS COURTYARD STYLE WILL NOT HAVE A LIMIT TO NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE THERE.
AND SO FOR, FOR NUMBER OF CARS MAYBE COMING AT THE SAME TIME OR MAYBE, UH, WAITING FOR A TWO-WAY ENTRANCE COULD BE MORE IN A COURTYARD STYLE, AND THAT'S WHY ALLOWING AN 18 FEET, UH, OR ALTHOUGH MR. CAMP GOT YOUR, UH, INPUT SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT THOSE WERE THE THOUGHTS THAT WENT BEHIND RECOMMENDING A MAXIMUM 18 ON THIS ONE AND, UM, 16 ON THE OTHER ONE.
I I REALLY LIKE THESE DESIGNS.
I THOUGHT I SAW 50% OF THESE HOMES HAD TO BE FACING THE COURTYARD.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, FACING THE COURTYARD OR PUBLIC? SO TOGETHER, IF YOU ARE PROPOSING, LET'S SAY 10 LOTS OUT OF THOSE, FIVE OF THEM, UM, TWO OF THEM CAN BE ALONG THE STREET AND THREE OF THEM CAN BE ALONG THE COURTYARD.
BUT A TOTAL OF 50% MUST EITHER FACE A STREET OR A COURTYARD.
I, WITH THE STREET PART, THAT MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE, I THINK, UM, WHEN WE DID THESE DESIGNS PREVIOUSLY, UH, WE HAD THE COURTYARD, BUT WE HAD, WE HAD THEM, UH, COMING OUTTA THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
SO YOU'D WALK OUTTA THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, YOU'D HAVE YOUR BACKYARD, THEN YOU HAD THE COURTYARD AND IT KIND OF MADE A NICE SETUP.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING HERE WHERE, UM, WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP THAT 50% IS IF THERE'S A REAL REASON BEHIND THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN BUILD A REALLY NICE COURTYARD SET UP WHERE THE, THE REAR OF THE HOMES ARE FACING THE COURTYARD AND KIND OF HAVE YOU, IT'S IT'S, IT ALMOST, IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN EXTENDED BACKYARD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THE, THE REASON WE, UM, LOOKED AT OUR, WORKED ON THE 50% REQUIREMENT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THIS TO JUST BE A BACKYARD SPACE.
WE WANT IT TO BUILD LIKE COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY FEEL.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE ESTABLISHED THAT 50% IS THAT IT'S, IT'S THAT SPACE TO COME TOGETHER, UH, RATHER THAN HOW WE SEE COMPENSATING OPEN SPACES, WHICH, UH, ACTUALLY SOMETIMES BECOMES JUST THE BACKYARD SPACE OF A STRIP OF 12 FEET.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO AVOID.
UM, WHILE DRAFTING THIS, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THERE'S ALSO, IF SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO DESIGN IT AROUND THE COURTYARD, AND YOU HAVE REALLY, NOT, NOT LIKE IN THIS PICTURE, BUT IN SOME OF THE PREVIOUS ONES WHERE YOU HAD ALL OF THEM SURROUNDING THE COURTYARD, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, SO IN, IN THESE ONES HERE, YOU HAVE ALL SIX AROUND THERE.
SO IT, IT, IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF YOU HAVE HOMES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE COURTYARD AREA.
BUT IF YOU BUILD IT AROUND REALLY WITH THE COURTYARD AS A CENTRAL FEATURE FOR IT, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IF YOUR HOUSE IS FACING TOWARDS OR TOWARDS IT OR AWAY FROM IT.
BUT YOU DID MENTION FACING THE STREET AS A WE AS W AS WELL BECAUSE THAT IN, IN THE DESIGN WE DID, WE HAD, WE HAD STREETS ON EITHER SIDE, THE HOUSES FACING OUT TOWARDS THE STREET, AND THEN THE COURTYARD WAS BEHIND THE HOMES.
UM, JUST, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE THOUGH, I I OVERALL REALLY LIKE THE DESIGN OR LIKE THE IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE.
WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR COMMENTS TO SEE, UM, IF THERE IS, UM, ANYTHING WE CAN, UM, DO ABOUT THAT COMMENT.
UM, WHEN WE DRAFTED THE SITES, WHEN WE LOOKED AT SITES OF, UM, A HUNDRED BY ONE 50 OR ONE 50 BY ONE 50, WHAT WE NOTICED IS THAT WE COULDN'T GET ALL OF THE UNITS AROUND THAT COURTYARD BECAUSE OF HOW THE SPACE WORKS AND HOW THE PARKING AND THE DRIVEWAY WORKS.
SO WE WANTED TO ESTABLISH LIKE, AT LEAST A NUMBER OF UNITS THAT MUST BE ALONG THE COURTYARD AND THE OTHER ONES CAN BE ALONG THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS.
UM, SO THAT'S THE REASON WE PUT IN THAT 50%, BUT, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.
I'M SHOWING, UH, SEAN MASSEK UP NEXT.
YEAH, I WANNA ASK, UM, ON THE, TALKING ABOUT FRONTING STREET, IS IT GOTTA BE A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY STREET, IT CAN BE ALLEY OR A TYPE TWO PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT? OR IS IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF STREET IN THIS CASE? PUBLIC STREET.
UM, THE, SO ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES, THE COURTYARD STYLE DEVELOPMENT, THEY MUST, THE DEVELOPMENT MUST FACE A PUBLIC STREET FOR FIREFIGHTING PURPOSES.
UM, NO, YOU, YOU CAN HAVE A FIRE LANE WITHOUT IT BEING A PUBLIC STREET.
SO, UM, IT CAN BE A PRIVATE STREET.
MAYBE DIPTI, DO YOU WANNA HELP WITH THIS QUESTION, PLEASE? NO, I THINK COURTYARD, THE WHOLE GOAL
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OF COURT.SO WE, WE ENVISIONED THIS TO COME ALONG PUBLIC STREETS, UM, BECAUSE, UH, THE DEPTH OF THE PROPERTY IN THIS CASE IS ALSO ONE 50 FEET DEEP, UH, AND MAKING, KEEP MAKING SURE THAT THE FIREFIGHTING IS HAPPENING FROM THE STREET.
AND THE COMMUNITY BUILDING IS ALSO HAPPENING ALONG PUBLIC STREETS AND WE DON'T FACE OUR BACK TOWARDS PUBLIC STREET.
SO THIS WAS NOT FOR A PRIVATE STREET COMMUNITY, OR THIS CAN BE DONE ON A PRIVATE STREET TODAY.
THERE IS A FIVE FEET REQUIREMENT, UM, FIVE FEET OF BUILDING LINE REQUIREMENT, AND THE LOTS COULD BE SMALLER ALONG A PRIVATE STREET.
THIS WAS, UH, COARD STYLE WAS DONE, UH, OR, OR IS BEING PROPOSED TO ALLOW FOR GREATER, UM, UNIT DENSITY ON SITES WHICH WILL STILL FACE PUBLIC STREETS AND, AND PROVIDE HOMES FACING THE STREETS, MAKING PUBLIC STREETS MORE SAFER.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I A HUNDRED PERCENT ANSWERED YOUR CO QUESTION.
YEAH, AND I, I HAVEN'T RUN DIMENSIONS ON THE MUELLER AIRPORT HERE IN AUSTIN, UM MM-HMM
IN A WHILE, BUT THEY HAVE THIS PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, ALL FRONTING COURTYARD FOR THE MOST PART, BUT THEY HAVE ALLEYS, YOU KNOW, ON THE THREE SIDES WITH THE PUBLIC STREET, JUST THE COURTYARD FACES A PUBLIC STREET TYPE THING OR OPENS UP TO THE PUBLIC STREET, BUT THE ALLEYS ACCESS THE UNITS FOR VEHICLES.
SO I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT GOES PAST THAT ONE 50 OR IF LIKE THE BACK ALLEY BETWEEN THE COURTYARDS IS A FIRE LANE.
SO JUST THINKING FUTURE DESIGN OPPORTUNITIES.
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HAND RAISED COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THERE'S ONE CURTIS DAVIS.
JUST A, A REQUEST AS YOU DEVELOP THE GUIDEBOOK FOR THE COURTYARD UNITS, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT OPTION FOR LOW-RISE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING THAT COULD BE AFFORDABLE DEPENDING ON KIND OF THE MARKET YOU TARGET IT TO AND HOW YOU BUILD IT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS, UM, IN DEVELOPING A GUIDEBOOK, I WOULD REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD NARRATIVE AROUND THE RATIONALE AROUND LIVABLE CITIES AND AFFORDABILITY, UH, TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO IT MAY INVOLVE SOME COST, UM, ANALYSIS THAT COMPARES THAT DENSITY ON A, UH, OR PER UNIT A, A UNIT PER ACRE COST MEASURE TO ILLUSTRATE THE BENEFITS OF THIS ECONOMICALLY AND SOCIALLY.
THAT IS THAT COURTYARD BEING THE CONNECTOR AND FUNCTIONING AS A COMMON FRONT PORCH, AS YOU WILL TO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT, UM, YOU PROVIDE THAT SENSE OF SECURITY AND, AND, AND LACK OF ALIENATION WHEN YOU DEAL WITH, UM, MULTIPLE GENERATIONS WHO COULD BE LIVING IN THAT.
SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT, THAT GET PROMOTED, THAT, THAT THOSE, THOSE POLICIES GET PUT FORWARD AND ILLUSTRATED UPFRONT BEFORE THE REGULATORY STRUCTURE AND THE GUIDEBOOK IS PRESENTED SO THAT, UM, THE AVERAGE PERSON CAN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE.
ALL RIGHT, SINA, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD PLEASE.
CAN WE GO TO SLIDE 41, PLEASE? OKAY.
SO THE LAST PIECE OF MY PRESENTATION IS WE WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO REDUCE PARKING MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS NEAR HIGH FREQUENCY TRANSIT AND HIGH COMFORT BIKE FACILITIES TO MAKE BUILDING THESE HOUSING TYPES MORE AFFORDABLE.
THIS ONLY MEANS THAT THE CITY WON'T REQUIRE PARKING MINIMUMS NEAR TRANSIT SERVED AREAS, NOR IS THE CITY REMOVING EXISTING HOMES.
PARKING PEOPLE WILL BE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE PARKING BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE MARKET.
THIS WOULD PROVIDE ALTERNATIVES FOR THOSE IN THAT GROWING DEMOGRAPHICS IN HOUSTON OF ONE CAR OR NO CAR HOUSEHOLDS, EITHER BY CHOICE OR BY NECESSITY.
FOR THOSE THAT RELY ON YOUR VEHICLE, THERE ARE THOSE WHO WOULD PREFER OTHER OPTIONS.
WHICH ONE GIVEN REDUCED OVERALL TRAFFIC CONDITION.
WE ARE PROPOSING THAT FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS OF ANY PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED TILES, THAT WHEN A PROPERTY IS EITHER HALF MILE, UM, FROM TRANSIT OPTIONS LIKE TRAIN STATIONS,
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TRANSIT CENTERS, HIGH FREQUENCY BUS, BUS STOPS, OR WITHIN QUARTER MILE OF HIGH COMFORT BIKEWAYS WOULD NOT, UM, REQUIRE ANY PARKING MINIMUMS. CITY WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY PARKING MINIMUMS. UM, AND THE PARKING WILL BE BASED ON THE MARKET.AND THIS IS HOW AFTER RUNNING THE BUFFERS, THIS IS HOW THE MAP LOOKS OF, UM, THE MARKET BASED PARKING, UM, AREAS THAT WE IDENTIFIED.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS, UM, MAP OR THE PROPOSAL ABOUT, UM, NO CITY MINIMUM REQUIRED IN TRANSIT SURVEY AREAS.
YES, SABITA, WE'RE NOT SEEING THE MAP.
SDA, YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? YES.
UM, SO BASICALLY THIS MAP INCLUDES HALF MILE DISTANCE FROM, UM, HIGH FREQUENCY BUS ROUTES, TRANSIT STATIONS, UM, HIGH COM QUARTER MILE FROM HIGH COMFORT BIKE PATHS AND, BUT, UH, AND, UM, RAIL STATIONS.
SO THIS, THE BUFFER AREA SHOWS ALL OF THE AREAS THAT I MENTIONED.
AND IN THESE AREAS THERE WILL NOT BE ANY, UH, PARKING MINIMUMS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY.
HOWEVER, THE DEVELOPMENT CAN COME WITH HOW MANY, HOW MANY OF OUR PARKING SPACES THEY PROPOSE.
ALRIGHT, THEN ARE YOU READY FOR QUESTIONS, SAVI? YES, SIR.
ALRIGHT, I SEE, UH, MR. DAVIS FOLLOWED BY MR. DISH BERGER.
WITH, I'M ASSUMING THIS INCLUDES THE PROPOSED NETWORK OF BUS RAPID TRANSIT ROUTES AND THE, THE ASSOCIATED STATIONS WITH THOSE BUS RAPID TRANSIT FACILITIES.
THESE ARE ALL EXISTING ROUTES THAT WE PICKED UP AS AS, AND WHEN THERE ARE NEW FACILITIES AVAILABLE, UM, NEW IMPROVEMENTS HAPPEN, THE MAP WILL BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE THOSE.
WELL, I, I WOULD INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE REFERENCING BUS RAPID TRANSIT.
UM, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A HIGH FREQUENCY ROUTE, IT'S ALSO A HIGH CAPACITY ROUTE THAT FALLS JUST BELOW LIGHT RAIL IN TERMS OF ITS CAPACITY.
ALRIGHT, I'M SHOWING MIKE BERGER JUST A QUESTION.
SAVITA, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PICTURE OF THE DARK BLUE.
IS THAT THE RAIL LINES AND THE HIGH BUS? THE MASS TRANSIT BUS LINES.
AND WHAT IS THE LIGHT BLUE? IT'S, UM, IT'S MULTIPLE BUFFERS AND THAT'S WHY WHEREVER THERE IS OVERLAP, YOU ARE SEEING THE DARK BLUE.
BUT BASICALLY WE TOOK THE BUFFERS, UM, OF HIGH FREQUENCY BUS ROUTES, WHICH IS THE RED ROUTES.
THEN WE DID, UM, THE HALF MILE FROM HIGH FREQUENCY BUS STOPS, UM, TRAIN STOPS AND, UM, WHAT ELSE? UM, TRANSIT STATIONS AND PARK AND RIDE FACILITIES AND QUARTER MILE FROM HIGH COMFORT EXISTING BIKE BASE SAVITA.
DO WE BY ANY CHANCE HAVE THIS UP ON MY CITY SO THAT WE CAN SHOW IT THE LAYERS? LET ME, UH, PULL UP THE SHARE MY SCREEN.
WE COULD JUST, CAN WE JUST VIEW THIS AFTER THE MEETING? I, I KIND OF KNOW WHERE THIS IS AT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MAP MEANS.
SO THIS IS THE QUARTER MILE FROM EXISTING HIGH FUN, UM, HIGH COMFORT BIKE ROUTES.
THEN LET'S GO TO THE BUFFERS METRO PARK AND RIDE HALF MILE FROM ALL METRO PARK AND RIDE FACILITIES.
THEN THE LIGHT RAIL STATIONS HALF MILE BUFFER, SO THAT'S THE BUFFER.
UM, THEN METRO BUS ROUTES, OH, THE, THE OTHER THING I DID NOT MENTION IS THE BLUE ROUTES THAT OVERLAP WITH OPPORTUNITIES ZONES.
WE ARE ALSO DOING HALF MILE BUFFER FROM THE BLUE ROUTES.
THIS IS TO ENCOURAGE MORE RIDERSHIP IN THE VICINITY OF, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
AND THEN RED ROUTES HALF MILE BUFFER FROM ALL OF THE RED ROUTES THAT ARE EXISTING TODAY AS, UH, HIGH, UH, FREQUENCY AND THEN THE TRANSIT STATIONS.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THE BUFFERS, RIGHT? MIKE, DID THAT ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS? UH, YES IT DOES.
AND NOW I CAN SEE WHAT SHE'S USING ALSO.
I DO NOT SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS.
ARE THERE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
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WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS AN UPDATE ON THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ROMAN MCCLEAN OUR, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER TO PRESENT THE NEXT ITEM.
UM, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION PLEASE? OKAY, GREAT.
THANKS FOR, UH, UM, ALL YOUR TIME TODAY.
SO I'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THESE SLIDES JUST AS A REMINDER, UM, AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I BELIEVE SAVITA ALSO SHARED WITH, UM, UH, THE COMMITTEE, THE, UH, MOST RECENT, UH, VERSION OF THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT ORDINANCE.
BUT AS A REMINDER, THE, THE IDEA OF THEM IS THAT THEY'RE DRIVEN BY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS.
THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROTECT THE CHARACTER, THE CHARACTER, LOOK AND FEEL OF AN AREA THAT THEY, UH, MAY SUPPORT COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND NEW CONSTRUCTION, THAT THEY MAY BE EASIER TO ESTABLISH THAN OTHER PROTECTIONS, SUCH AS HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UM, PROMOTE, THEY PROMOTE LIVABILITY, QUALITY OF LIFE, AND THEN THEY MAY INCLUDE STRUCTURES OF ANY AGE.
UH, THIS IS DEFINITELY, UM, THE IDEA IS THAT THESE ARE DRIVEN BY PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS.
UH, THE STAFF HERE MAY LOOK AT AN ANALYSIS OF DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT WE MAY LOOK AT HISTORICAL STUDIES OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS WITHIN THEM.
UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE THAT WE HAVE AN AREA THAT'S IDENTIFIABLE, UM, THROUGH ITS PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES, HISTORY, ET CETERA.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR AREAS, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR AREAS.
THE AREAS NEED TO HAVE CONTIGUOUS BOUNDARIES.
THEY, UH, WE MAY LOOK AT OTHER DATA AND, UH, FOR THE NUMBER OF
UH, IN GENERAL, WE'RE LOOK AT THE COMMISSION IS TO LOOK AT THESE FIVE CRITERIA.
AND ONE THING THAT, UM, CHANGED SINCE WE LAST SPOKE IS THAT ORIGINALLY, UH, THE WORDING IN THE ORDINANCE STATED THAT JUST ONE OF THESE CRITERIA NEEDED TO BE MET.
BUT AS IT IS TODAY, DRAFTED INSTEAD, UH, AN AREA NEEDS TO MEET THE FIRST THREE POINTS AND ALSO ONE OF THE LATTER TWO POINTS.
SO THE POINTS BEING COMMON STREET SCAPES, STREET PATTERNS, SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY SITES OR LAND USE PATTERNS, CREATING AN AREA IDENTITY AND A COMMON PATTERN OF IMPROVEMENTS, LANDSCAPING, BUILDING SETBACKS ON THE PROPERTIES AND COMMON SCALE OR BULK AMONG THE BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES, ROOF HEIGHTS, LOCATION OF GARAGES OR OTHER BUILDING FOOTPRINT ELEMENTS.
AND THEN ONE OF THESE TWO, WHETHER A PROPOSED DISTRICT IS AN AREA THAT WAS PLANNED FOR OR DEVELOPED BY HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED OR DISENFRANCHISED COMMUNITIES, OR IS AN AREA, UH, THAT IS, HAS A SENSE OF COMMUNITY'S PRIDE, UM, AND IDENTIFIABLE.
UM, AS THESE, THESE MENU ITEMS HAVEN'T CHANGED FOR A COUPLE YEARS SINCE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, UM, BUT THERE THEY ARE.
THEY, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT AN AREA MIGHT CONSIDER, UM, TO, TO ASK FOR, UH, GUIDELINES ON BUILDING HEIGHT OR NUMBER STORIES, BUILDING SIZE AND MASSING, FRONT FACING BUILDING FEATURES, LOT SIZE OR COVERAGE, FRONT SIDE SETBACKS, OFF STREET PARKING, YARD PARKING, ROOF LINE AND PITCH PAVING OR HARDSCAPING.
UM, GENERAL SITE PLANNING, THE LOCATION OF PRIMARY SECONDARY STRUCTURES, ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND DETAILING, BUILDING MATERIALS, GARAGE ENTRANCE LOCATIONS, FENCES AND WALLS, BUILDING RELOCATION OR DEMOLITIONS, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST, UM, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS FROM A PRESERVATION POINT OF VIEW IF A NEIGHBORHOOD CHOSE TO GO THERE.
AND THEN ALTERATIONS TO EXISTING STRUCTURES.
ALSO A POINT THAT'S MORE ON POINT WITH THE HISTORIC SIDE OF THINGS.
UM, SO THEN JUST SOME KEY POINTS THAT THIS, UH, THESE POTENTIAL CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, IF THIS ORDINANCE WERE TO PASS, THEY'RE ONLY BASED ON INITIATION COMING FROM COMMUNITIES, WE WORK WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES CLOSELY TO IDENTIFY THE CHARACTERISTIC CHARACTER TRAITS THAT THEY WISH TO, UM, PRESERVE OR HAVE AN IMPACT UPON.
LIKE FOR
UM, WHEN WE HAVE A PROPOSED BOUNDARY AND A PROPOSED SET OF REGULATIONS
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AFTER THAT PUBLIC MEETING, THERE ALWAYS WILL BE A VOTE.UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR 51% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE PROPOSED DISTRICT FOR, FOR APPROVAL OR FOR THAT ABILITY FOR THAT APPLICATION OR THAT PROPOSAL TO GO FORWARD.
THE BOUNDARIES CAN BE MODIFIED TO MEET THE 51% THRESHOLD.
BUT DUE TO, UM, THE REQUEST OF MANY PEOPLE, WE MADE SURE THAT IF WE REDRAW THAT BOUNDARY, WE, WE RE NOTIFY PEOPLE.
THE, UH, HHC HAS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AS DOES CITY COUNCIL.
AND, UM, THEN AN, AN IMPORTANT POINT IS THE LAST POINT, WHICH IS A NEW STATE LAW REALLY OVER THE LAST, I, I THINK IT WAS TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AGO THAT A LAW WAS PASSED THAT SAID, IN TEXAS, IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A HISTORIC DISTRICT, UNLESS YOU HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT BUY-IN, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO USUALLY BE THE CASE, THEN YOU NEED THREE QUARTER SUPPORT OF THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION IN OUR CASE AND THE CITY COUNCIL IN ORDER TO CREATE THAT DISTRICT THAT IS A STATE LAW, UM, WHICH WOULD APPLY TO, TO THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT'S ORDINANCE.
AND, UM, OF COURSE, LIKE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ORDINANCE, UH, OR LANDMARK, JUST BASICALLY OUR ORDINANCE, THE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE IN GENERAL, ORDINARY MAINTENANCE, REPAIR, REPLACEMENT OF EXTERIOR FEATURES THAT ARE NOT STRUCTURAL, UM, ARE EXEMPT LANDSCAPING WITH PLANTS AND TREES IS TYPICALLY IS EXEMPT.
AND I, I WOULD THINK THAT AS WE JUST STATED IN THERE, A CONSERVATION DISTRICT MIGHT PROPOSE TO, TO HAVE SOME LANDSCAPING AS WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IN THOSE POINTS.
BUT GENERALLY, EXEMPT PARTIAL RECONSTRUCTION OF A STRUCTURE OR EXTERIOR FEATURE DAMAGED OR DESTROYED BY FIRESTORM OR OTHER DISASTER, UM, IS EXEMPT.
THIS HAS ACTUALLY COME UP RECENTLY, JUST IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT A BIG POINT, BUT IN GLENBROOK VALLEY, I THINK I'VE SEEN TWO FIRES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND PEOPLE REBUILDING.
AND WE, IF THEY'RE REBUILDING IN THE SAME, BASICALLY THE SAME HOME ON THE SAME SITE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM THE PROCESS.
UM, AND THEN ANYTHING ON THE INTERIOR OF THE HOME IS EXEMPT.
AND NEXT SLIDE PLEASE WOULD BE EXEMPT.
SO THEN I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, I'LL JUST TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I WILL SAY WE, JUST TO, ON ANOTHER POINT AFTER THE LAST MEETING, UM, WE, WE, WE DEFINITELY TOOK THE COMMENTS OF THIS, UM, COMMITTEE INTO CONSIDERATION AND THERE WERE, UM, CLEAR AMENDMENTS MADE TO THE ORDINANCE TO ACCOMMODATE I THINK MOST OF THE POINTS RAISED.
AND I'LL JUST TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I SEE PETER FRIEDMAN WITH HIS HAND RAISED, PETER.
I I DID HAVE A QUESTION RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I, I GUESS MY FEAR ON THIS IS THIS IS THIS KIND OF BE, IS UTILIZED TO KIND OF DO THE NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF PROTECTIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING? I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET, WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS TODAY ABOUT GETTING SMALLER HOMES AND MORE AFFORDABLE, UM, STOCK ON THE INVENTORY OUT THERE.
UM, I JUST KIND OF LEAVE IT AT THAT AND SEE WHAT YOU, WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.
I MEAN, THE TOOLS THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TODAY AND EVERYTHING SAVITA PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, A REALLY REMARKABLE GOOD THINGS.
AND THE, THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T PRECLUDE THAT.
UM, WHEN A POTENTIAL DISTRICT COMES FORWARD, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK, WE BEING STAFF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, WHEN A SPECIFIC PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD COMES FORWARD, WE'LL HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT PROPOSAL.
UM, HOPEFULLY WITH PRECISELY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN MIND.
UM, I JUST, RIGHT NOW WHILE WE TALKED, WAS READING THE HOUSTON CHRONICLE, UM, PIECE THAT I JUST RECENTLY SAW WAS I RECENTLY SAW AND HOW LONG IT WAS UP.
UM, AND IT MENTIONS THAT, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY QUOTE TWO ACADEMICS WHO MENTIONED THAT, AND IT SEEM, THEY KIND OF SAY THAT THERE'S AN ADVERSE IMPACT TO AFFORDABILITY.
UM, AND ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT IS BLESS THEIR HEARTS, UH, APPRECIATE THE ACADEMICS.
UM, AND I, AND I, I WOULDN'T MIND BEING ONE MYSELF, BUT AFTER PRACTICING HISTORIC PRESERVATION ON THE GROUND IN THE FIELD FOR 10 PLUS YEARS FOR THREE DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES, I DON'T SEE THAT IT BLOCKS IT IN A DIRECT WAY.
IT WILL COME DOWN TO THAT IF WE GET A PROPOSED DISTRICT LOOKING CLOSELY AT WHAT THAT DISTRICT IS ASKING FOR AND DOING OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE WE AREN'T, UM, ARE ARE, ARE DOING OUR BEST TO ASSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON AFFORDABILITY.
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THE IDEA IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, IT IS POTENTIALLY A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO STAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.UM, YOU KNOW, IT IT JUST, IT COULD, IT COULD BE USEFUL IN THAT WAY.
THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
PETER, IS THAT, UH, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? UH, IT, IT DOES AND, AND I I, I DO THINK THIS IS A, THIS CAN BE VERY POSITIVE.
I, SO I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY IT'S NOT, I'M JUST CONCERNED WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU REGULATE LOT SIZE AND HOME SIZE, IF YOU MAKE A A HOME THAT HAS TO BE SPECIFIC SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THAT COULD, THAT, THOSE ARE THE AREAS I FEEL LIKE THAT I HAVE THE CONCERN.
UH, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO LET, SO LET'S SAY WE WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE A FRONT PORCH, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN SAYING EVERY HOME HAS TO BE 3000 SQUARE FEET.
IT HAS TO BE ON A 7,500 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
I THINK THAT THAT'S INTERESTING.
AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THOUGHT TO THAT IS THE NEIGHBORS WERE LOOKING AT IT BE THE OPPOSITE PROBLEM BECAUSE THE HISTORICAL BUILT BUILDINGS WERE SO MUCH SMALLER.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD COME TO WHEN THAT, WHEN THE DISTRICT AND THIS ORDINANCE A BIG CHANGE.
UH, ON POINT TO WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS TOO, IS THAT RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT DRAFT THAT YOU RECEIVED IN YOUR EMAIL BOX STATES THAT THERE WOULD BE SIX NEIGHBORHOODS BY THIS ORDINANCE, ONLY SIX NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE IN IT LISTED THERE.
AND SO THAT'S IMPACTFUL BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK THOSE ARE THE S AND I AND I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHICH ONES THEY'RE GONNA BE JUST YET.
WE HAVE AN IDEA AND WE, UH, UH, THE GUEST CITY COUNCIL'S GONNA RESOLVE THAT SOON.
UM, AND IN ORDER TO DO OTHER DISTRICTS, UH, IF THIS ORDINANCE WERE TO PASS IN ITS CURRENT FORM, THEN THIS ORDINANCE WOULD NEED REVISION TO ADD OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS DOWN THE LINE.
AND THAT'S A BIG STEP BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE REVISING YOU PUT IN A PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN AND THEN DOING IT AGAIN.
UM, MR. DAVIS, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.
UM, ROMAN, I I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT, NOT IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT AS PART OF THE WORK THAT STAFF DOES TO REVIEW THE PROPOSALS FOR DISTRICTS, THAT THERE IS A REVIEW FRAMEWORK SO THAT THINGS ARE OUTLINED INTO MR. FRIEDMAN'S POINT.
UM, ONE COULD INCLUDE IN THAT A TEST FOR AFFORDABILITY, SO THAT IF THERE ARE CURRENT GUIDELINES THAT AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT, UM, ALLOW FOR CERTAIN, UH, DENSITY THAT IMPACTS COSTS FOR THAT SUPPORT AFFORDABILITY, THAT THE PROPOSAL COULD NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THAT AFFORDABILITY THROUGH ITS RECOMMENDATIONS OR CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO THAT, AGAIN, NOT, I WOULDN'T MAKE IT PART OF THE REGULATION, I, I'M JUST DEFINITELY CONCERNED THAT WE MAKE IT TOO COMPLICATED, BUT THAT AS PART OF THE FRAMEWORK FOR REVIEW, THAT STAFF WOULD USE, THAT THERE WOULD BE, UM, THESE TESTS AND THEY COULD BE FLEXIBLE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY CHANGES AND, AND, AND, AND, AND A VARIETY OF THINGS CHANGED OVER TIME THAT COULD ASSURE THAT A PROPOSAL ISN'T USED AS A TOOL TO, UH, LIMIT AFFORDABILITY IN A COMMUNITY.
THAT THAT'S MORE OF A COMMENT AND A REQUEST.
AND THEN THE SECOND POINT HAS TO DO WITH THE TEST FOR APPLICABILITY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT A COMMUNITY IS ELIGIBLE FOR THIS.
MANY LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES HAVE UNDERGONE, UM, DISINVESTMENT TO THE EXTENT THAT MANY OF THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED, BUT THE PATTERN OF USE, UM, IS STILL RELEVANT.
AND FOR EXAMPLE, UH, MANY COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS IN AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES WERE DECIMATED THROUGH THIS INVESTMENT AND POST, UH, DESEGREGATION WITH PEOPLE LEAVING COMMUNITIES, HAVING NEW CHOICES.
BUT THOSE BUSINESSES BEING ECONOMICALLY DEVASTATED AND SUBSEQUENTLY THOSE BUILDINGS AND THOSE FACILITIES BEING, UM, DEMOLISHED.
SO THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE IS NO LONGER THERE, BUT THE HISTORIC PATTERN IS THERE, CAN THAT BE USED AS A BASIS IN THE ABSENCE OF THE PHYSICAL PATTERN TO DEVELOP A CONSERVATION DISTRICT? WELL, THANK YOU FOR BOTH OF THOSE COMMENTS.
UH, UH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO INCLUDE THAT THE HAVE TO HAVE REVIEW FRAMEWORK
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IS EXCELLENT AND, UH, WE'LL DISCUSS WITH STAFF.UM, HOPEFULLY IF THIS ORDER WERE TO PASS THAT WE SHOULD DRAFT THAT AND TALK TO YOU.
AND THEN THE TEST FOR APPLICABILITY, UM, IS, IS IS EXCELLENT.
AND THEN, I MEAN, SORRY, THE, UM, PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF THE PASSAGE SHOULD BE PART OF THAT ANALYSIS.
THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE ANALYSIS, UM, THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT STAFF WOULD DO IN REVIEWING, UH, A POT, AN AREA FOR A POTENTIAL DISTRICT, UM, THAT, THAT IS COMING UP TOO.
I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN INDEPENDENCE HEIGHTS, THE OLD MAIN STREET THERE.
UM, AND, UM, WHEN WE MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY, THAT SHOULD BE THE NORM THAT YOU'RE LAYING DOWN THE, ON A, ON TABLES IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, THE HISTORY OF AN AREA, AND ALSO OBSERVING FROM THEM THE HISTORY OF THE AREA AND THEN LOOKING AT WHAT YOU POTENTIALLY MIGHT DO WHEN YOU PUT DOWN AN ORDINANCE ON PAPER.
I MEAN, THE, ESPECIALLY NEEDING THE 75% BUY-IN AT BOTH BODIES, IT'S JUST, I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY ASPECT OF THIS, THE, THE INPUT REQUIRED IS, IS, IS IT'S ARGUABLY MORE INTENSE THAN IT WOULD BE FOR A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
ALTHOUGH THE ALL ULTIMATE ADOPTION, THAT BEING AT 51% AND THE CURRENT DRAFT HAS A LOWER BUY-IN, UH, IT STILL, UH, IT STILL REQUIRES, UM, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, OF WORK TO BE DONE.
UM, ROMAN, I DO NOT SEE ANY MORE HANDS RAISED COMMITTEE MEMBERS UP.
THERE'S ONE BRADLEY PEPPER, BRADLEY PEPPER.
AND, UH, AND THANK YOU ROMAN, FOR BRINGING THIS.
I I JUST, THERE'S A, A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS AND I WANTED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION.
IT WAS THE LAST THING THAT YOU, UH, THAT YOU PRESENTED.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE I GOT THIS, I THINK WE ALL GOT THIS, UH, A FEW HOURS AGO.
UM, AND THEN JUST CURSORY READING OF IT, IT LOOKED LIKE THIS IS A PILOT LIMITED TO AT MAXIMUM SIX DISTRICTS.
AND LIKE YOU, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, AND I'M SORRY IF I'M REPEATING WHAT YOU ALREADY SAID, BUT TO, TO HAVE MORE THAN SIX DISTRICTS IN THE FUTURE, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE REVISITED IN A, IN A NEW DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE TO BE WRITTEN.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? SO RIGHT NOW WHAT WOULD BE ADOPTED WHENEVER IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL WILL ONLY BE LIMITED TO SIX OR LESS DISTRICTS.
UM, I, I WOULD SAY UNFORTUNATELY FOR, IN MY OPINION, BUT YES, IT'S TRUE.
I THINK IT'S, I WISH IT WASN'T LIMITED IN THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT LOOKS LIKE IT NEEDS RIGHT NOW.
AND I KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND, AND FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT.
SO, UM, SO QUESTION NUMBER TWO.
UM, IS THERE A DRAFT, UH, A RED, A RED LINE DRAFT THAT COMPARES WHAT WE WERE GIVEN EARLIER TODAY TO THE LAST OR, UH, THE LAST DRAFT? DO WE, DO WE KNOW THAT? AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A STAFF QUESTION.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SHAREABLE.
I, I I THINK KEN, UH, LEGAL MIGHT BE ON THE CALL STILL.
UH, I, AND I MEAN, OF COURSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IT'S WORD DOC I BELIEVE LEGAL IF WE, IT'S OKAY TO SHARE.
I DON'T SURE WHETHER WE WANNA SHARE THAT OR WHAT THAT IS, BUT IT, I, I JUST THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE WHAT THEY'VE SEEN BEFORE AS TO WHAT CAME OUT TODAY.
UM, AND SO, SO, SO I WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE AND REQUEST THAT IF POSSIBLE.
AND THEN THIRD, DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE RIGHT NOW OR ANY THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS IS WILL THIS GO, WILL THIS GO BACK TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AGAIN OR WILL THIS GO STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL OR DO WE, DO WE KNOW THAT YET? IT'S GOING STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL.
ARE WE LOOKING AT NEXT WEEK OR, UH, THE, HERE THEY ON, I THINK IT'S TENTATIVELY THAT WE HAVE, UM, ANNA ON BY CHANCE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, WE'RE THREE 14.
IT'S RIGHT, IT'S FOR THE END OF THE MONTH.
BUT I DON'T HAVE, YEAH, I SEE ANNA SADIA POSSIBLY ON, UH, SHE MAYBE SHE KNOWS IF NOT ANNA, IF YOU'RE THERE, IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? THERE YOU ARE.
UM, WE STILL DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEK OR THE END OF THE MONTH.
UH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SURE.
UH, BRADLEY, I DO NOT SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, SEEING NONE, I'LL TURN THIS BACK OVER TO SAVITA.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE NEXT STEPS, UM,
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AND HOMEWORK ACTIVITIES AND TAMMY WILLIAMSON WILL BE PRESENTING.UM, WE HAVE A SURVEY THAT IS POSTED ON LIST TALK HOUSTON.
WE'RE ALSO AS A DEPARTMENT GOING TO OUT INTO THE WORLD, INTO HOUSTON AREA, UM, AND HAVING PHYSICAL SURVEYS, ELECTRONIC SURVEY, PLEASE TAKE THE SURVEY, IT'S EIGHT QUESTIONS SUPER QUICK.
UM, AND THEN DISTRIBUTE IT OUT TO YOUR KNOWN PEOPLES.
ALSO, PLEASE READ OVER THE DRAFT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU AND THAT'S ALSO ONLINE.
UM, THAT'S, THIS IS THE TIME TO GET THAT DONE.
AND THEN LASTLY, FOR EACH ONE OF YOU, PLEASE BE AMBASSADORS FOR LIVABLE PLACES.
GET THE WORD OUT, SPREAD IT OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU INFLUENCE, UM, AND THAT YOU ARE IN A CONTACT WITH, UM, TO JUST SPREAD THE WORD ON WHERE WE'RE AT AND HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS.
AND THEN ALSO GUIDE PEOPLE TO US, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HELP ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS FOR NEXT STEPS, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION OF THIS ON THURSDAY'S PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
UM, SO THAT WILL BE HAPPENING THIS THURSDAY ON MARCH 16TH.
AND THEN, UM, AND THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, A 30 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, UM, TO START THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WE WILL POST ONLINE COME THURSDAY, THE PUBLIC COMMENT FORUM ON LET'S TALK HOUSTON TO, UM, FIELD ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS INTO THAT SPACE.
AND THEN ALSO, IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO REQUEST FROM US A MEETING, A PRESENTATION, ANY TALK THAT WE CAN HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, UM, WITH ANY SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF DETAILS OR BROAD STROKES, LET US KNOW.
WE'D LOVE TO GET THE WORD OUT, UM, AS WE CONTINUE TO MEET WITH PEOPLE.
UM, JUST WHOEVER, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D LOVE TO REACH OUT.
ALL RIGHT, TAMMY, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
ALRIGHT, AVITA, AT THIS POINT LET ME JUST, YOU READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, SIR? YES.
UM, CO-CHAIR LISA CLARK, ARE YOU THERE? YES.
WE'RE GONNA DO THE PUBLIC HEARING BEGINNING, UH, THE 16TH THURSDAY.
THEN WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THAT? SO YOU GUYS ARE GONNA COMPILE ALL THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WILL THAT COME BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION? YES.
SO IT'LL COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO WE CAN, UM, GO OVER ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT.
AND THEN IT WILL BE UP FOR CONSIDERATION, UM, TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND DO WE HAVE A, UM, ESTIMATED DATE THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET IT TO CITY COUNCIL? NOT YET.
UM, END OF MAY IS WHAT WE ARE PLANNING.
UM, AND WE ALREADY STARTED A MATRIX WITH ALL OF THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED, SO PLEASE, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GIVE THOSE COMMENTS.
WE STARTED WORKING ON THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED ALREADY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
AND ARE THOSE AVAILABLE SAVITA OR ARE YOU JUST WAITING TO COMPILE 'EM ALL BEFORE YOU MAKE 'EM AVAILABLE? WE'LL MAKE THEM AVAILABLE, UM, DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN WE ARE READY TO CONSIDER, BECAUSE WE WANNA ADDRESS EVERYTHING AND HOW THE ORDINANCE WILL CHANGE AFTER WE RESOLVE THE ISSUES OR ADDRESS THE ISSUES.
THAT WILL BE A MATRIX WE ALWAYS DO WITH ANY AMENDMENTS.
ALRIGHT, AND WITH THAT WE WILL GO TO THE UH, PUBLIC.
MIKE BERGER HAS HIS HAND RAISED.
UM, I HAD GONE ON LIVABLE PLACES A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, MADE A COUPLE COMMENTS, UM, WHERE CAN YOU SEE ALL THE REPLY, ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT POSTED? THE ONLY THE ONES I COULD FIND WERE ALL FROM 2021 AND EARLY 22.
SO WHAT ABOUT ALL THE COMMENTS NOW, NOW THAT YOU PUT THIS FORWARD IN THE LIVABLE PLACES WEBSITE, WHERE CAN WE SEE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS SAYING ABOUT THIS? I, UM, THE COMMENT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IF THEY'RE NOT VISIBLE FOR PUBLIC.
UM, I'LL CHECK WITH OUR TEAM TO SEE IF THEY SHOULD THEY, IF THEY'RE VISIBLE OR NOT.
UM, SAVITA AS WE GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'LL REMIND YOU ALL THAT UM, THIS IS FOR THE PUBLIC TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE US THEIR OPINION AND THEIR COMMENTS AND THEIR IDEAS.
THEY WILL EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES, UH, AS MUCH AS TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
AND AGAIN, IF YOU ARE ON A TELEPHONE, UH, USE STAR SIX TO MUTE AND UNMUTE.
SO WHO IS GONNA BE HELPING ME WITH UH,
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LINING UP OUR SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? I AM, THIS IS TAMMY.UH, WE CAN UH, GET STARTED THEN GO RIGHT AHEAD.
SO WE HAVE ETHAN BAXTER AND THEN I ALSO HAD A GENTLEMAN THAT HAD TO LEAVE EARLY THAT PUT A LITTLE WRITTEN COMMENT.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE I CAN READ THAT OUT.
WELL ACTUALLY LET'S GO AHEAD AND UH, YES, READ THAT COMMENT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO TO MR. BAXTER.
OKAY, SO OSCAR SAID MY MAIN CONCERN IS HOUSTON'S FLOODING AND HOW THESE PLANS CONTRIBUTE TO IT.
THIS IS FOR THE HOUSING RECOMMENDATIONS, ONE TO THREE DRAINS INTO HOUSTON'S OLD SEWER SYSTEM, AREN'T WORKING, SORT OF LIKE SETTING HOMES ON FIRE AND THEN TRY TO PLAY FIRE, FIRE BY CALLING FOR STATE AND FEDERAL ASSISTANCE TO HELP REBUILD.
ALSO, MOST OF THESE HOMES WILL NOT BE FRIENDLY TO THE A DA OR AGING POPULATION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR VERY MUCH.
UM, ETHAN BAXTER, ARE YOU THERE? I AM.
AND ACTUALLY IT'S MARIAN WRIGHT.
I'M ON ETHAN BAXTER IS MY EMAIL ADDRESS 'CAUSE I SHARE IT WITH.
BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, WOULD YOU, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN AND SPELL YOUR LAST NAME PLEASE? SURE, IT'S MARIAN.
LAST NAME IS WRIGHT, W-R-I-G-H-T.
I'M ACTUALLY CONCERNED THAT UM, ENOUGH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
Y'ALL HAVE NOT HAD ANY PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THIS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
THEY JUST REALLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
I KIND OF FELL INTO IT BECAUSE I WAS NOMINATED BY ONE OF THE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE ON THE QUOTE UNQUOTE BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, THEY ONLY JUST NOW WHEN THEY PRESENTED IT, THEY HAND CHOSE THE, THE COMMENTS THAT THEY QUOTE UNQUOTE, I THINK MS. MARGARET WALLACE BROWN EVEN SAID SHE FELT ONE OF THEM WAS RELEVANT.
THERE WERE MANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE.
WHAT I REALLY THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE IS Y'ALL HAVE TO HAVE THIS ANTI-PUBLIC FORUM WHERE YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND Y'ALL DO A MEDIA RELEASE AND YOU HAVE ACTUALLY THE COMMUNITY IN A PLACE THAT CAN DO THIS.
IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND GIVE ME A PLACE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET PEOPLE TO COME TO IT.
I DO NOT HAVE A PLACE AVAILABLE THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT I CAN ACTUALLY GET TO LISTEN TO A PRESENTATION.
SO IF THE CITY CAN PROVIDE A LOCATION AND A TIME, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO FILL THE ARENA.
ALRIGHT, UH, TAMMY, UH, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? I DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS THAT SIGNED UP IN ADVANCE.
ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, THIS IS UH, CO-CHAIR SONNY GARZA.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO IS SITTING IN ON THIS MEETING WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? ALL RIGHT, THEN.
HEARING NONE AND NO ONE ELSE HAS SPOKEN UP, I DON'T SEE ANY HAND RAISED.
UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LAST ITEM, WHICH IS TO CLOSE THIS MEETING.
ANY, UH, PLANNING STAFF AND DIRECTOR WALLACE BROWN, ANYTHING BEFORE WE CLOSE? NO, I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR HANGING IN WITH US, THE PUBLIC, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY, UM, HARDWORKING GROUP AND YOU'VE MADE SOME REALLY TERRIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
ALRIGHT, SAVITA, ANYTHING, ANYTHING CLOSING? NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, ALL YOUR COMMENTS TODAY AND OUR NEXT STEPS ARE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 16TH AT 2:30 PM THAT IS THIS THURSDAY COMING UP? YES.
THANK YOU EVERYONE AND HAPPY SPRING BREAK AND THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED.