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OH, GOOD.ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 13TH, 2022.
[Call to Order]
WE HAVE A QUORUM AT THE TABLE AND ONLINE.UM, AND THIS IS THE MEETING OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M COMMISSION CHAIR MARTY STEIN.
UM, FOR THE RECORD, THE FOLLOWING COMMISSIONERS WILL BE ABSENT FROM THE MEETING.
COMMISSIONER HE NELSON POROUS, PURL ROBINS AND SMITH.
UM, COMMISSIONER KANE DALTON WILL BE, UM, VIRTUAL AS WILL, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER KANE IS WITH US, BUT, UH, VICE CHAIR GARZA WILL ALSO BE VIRTUAL TODAY.
COMMISSIONER DALTON, WILL YOU CONFIRM THAT YOU'RE AUDIBLE? YES, I'M HERE.
AND, UM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE? IS COMMISSIONER KANE OR TAHIR MAY BE, UM, VIRTUAL TODAY.
UM, IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON A SPECIFIC ITEM, YOU CAN FIND THE FINAL AGENDA, UM, WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE.
UM, ALL ADVANCE COMMENTS RECEIVED BEFORE, UH, OR BY NOON, NOON YESTERDAY, UM, HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN OUR PACKETS.
UM, AND IF YOU'RE WITH US IN THE ANNEX AND WISH TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT ONE OF THESE LITTLE, UM, RECTANGULAR FORMS THAT'LL HELP US KEEP THE MEETING IN ORDER.
A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM TODAY'S AGENDA.
THERE WILL BE NO OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON NUMBER 72 EAST END AT BUFFALO BAYOU AND 1 29 PINECREST, SECTION ONE.
[Director’s Report]
THAT, WE WILL GO TO THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.AND I NEGLECTED TO NOTE THAT, UH, DIRECTOR WALLACE BROWN IS ABSENT TODAY BEING REPRESENTED BY DEPUTY DIRECTOR JENNIFER OSLAND.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
UH, UH, I'M JENNIFER OSLAND, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UM, AND SEC ACTING SECRETARY OF THE COMMISSION.
THE ANNUAL PLANNING TRAINING WORKSHOP, UH, CALLED PFI, UH, FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SURVEYORS EDUCATION FOUNDATION, INC.
WAS HELD ON OCTOBER 6TH WITH MORE THAN FULL CAPACITY.
SO WE WANNA THANK EVERYONE WHO JOINED US ON THAT DAY.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE DO ANNUALLY TO UPDATE FOLKS ON PLATTING, UM, AND, UH, UH, PERMITTING TYPE REGULATIONS.
SO I THINK WE, THERE WAS MAYBE 150 PEOPLE SIGNED UP.
SO THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE PROFESSIONAL SURVEYORS FOR HOSTING THIS EVERY YEAR AND FOR EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED, THE RESIDENTIAL BUFFERING DRAFT ORDINANCE IS STILL AVAILABLE ON OUR LET'S TALK HOUSTON WEBPAGE.
AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD CLOSES OCTOBER 30TH.
SO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, AND, UM, LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
THERE'S, UM, WE WANT YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT SITE.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, ANYTHING ON TODAY'S AGENDA OR ANYTHING ELSE, PLEASE CALL US AT (832) 393-6600 OR YOU CAN CALL THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PLANNER OF THE DAY SERVICE, WHICH IS 8 3 2 3 9 3 6 6 2 4, OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE@HOUSTONTX.GOV BACK SLASH PLANNING.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, HEARING NONE.
I SEE WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COMMISSIONER TAHIR.
UH, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT YOU, UM, ARE AUDIBLE COMMISSIONER TAHIR? YES.
UH, THIS IS VERY MUCH MYSELF, ZF TAHIR.
I AM AUDIBLE AND I HOPE YOU CAN SEE ME.
WE CAN SEE YOU, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY SEE YOU.
UH, THIS IS FRED MATHIS WITH HARRIS COUNTY AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW YOU'RE HERE, MR. MATHIS.
[Approval of the September 29, 2022 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes]
BUSINESS WILL BE APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 29TH, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES.UM, IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOTION? CLARK.
IS THERE A SECOND? BALDWIN BALDWIN.
[Platting Activities a & b]
ONE PLATTING ACTIVITY.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SECTIONS A AND B ARE PRESENTED AS ONE GROUP, WHICH INCLUDES CONSENT AND REPLANT ITEMS NOT REQUIRING NOTIFICATION.
SECTIONS A AND B ARE ITEMS ONE THROUGH ONE 16 SECTION A.
CONSENT ITEMS ARE NUMBERS ONE THROUGH 53 AND SECTION B REPLANT ITEMS ARE NUMBERS 54 THROUGH ONE 16.
NO ITEMS NEED TO BE TAKEN OUT OF ORDER AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO
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STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS MADAM CHAIR, IF THERE ARE NO INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REQUEST THE APPROVAL OF ALL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSENT AND REPLANT ITEMS NOT REQUIRING NOTIFICATION.UM, LET'S JUST CHECK, IS THERE ANYONE WITH US OR LISTENING WHO WANTS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY OF THE ITEMS IN SECTIONS A OR B? THOSE ARE ITEMS ONE THROUGH ONE 16.
THESE ARE THE CONSENT ITEMS. OKAY.
IF NOT, WE'LL PROCEED WITH VOTING COMMISSIONERS.
ARE THERE ANY ITEMS WE NEED TO TAKE SEPARATELY? COMMISSIONER SIGLER? UM, YES.
ITEMS FIVE THROUGH 9, 17, 18, 27, 44 AND 45.
ANYBODY ELSE? UM, OKAY THEN, UM, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ALL ITEMS IN SECTIONS A AND B.
SAVE AND ACCEPT FOR ITEMS FIVE THROUGH 9 15, 17 18, 24, 27, 38, 44, 5 5.
IS THERE A MOTION? VICTOR SECOND JONES? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UM, AND ON THE REMAINDER, WHICH WILL BE ITEMS FIVE THROUGH 9 15, 17, 18, 24, 27, 38, 42, 44, 45, AND 85, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THOSE ITEMS? MAD SECOND A CLARK? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES NOTING THAT COMMISSIONERS DALTON AND SIGLER ABSTAINED.
[c. Replats requiring Public Hearings with Notification (Dorianne Powe-Phlegm, Devin Crittle, Arum Lee, Aracely Rodriguez and John Cedillo)]
TO SECTION C.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM ONE 17 IS AIRLESS PROPERTIES AT FOREST.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF WOOLWORTH AND FOREST STREETS IN HOUSTON'S CORPORATE LIMITS.
THE REASON FOR RELA IS TO CREATE THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
STAFF ASKED THE APPLICANT WHAT HE CONSIDERED A SHARED DRIVEWAY LAYOUT FOR THIS PLAT, AND THE APPLICANT RESPONDED THAT HE WILL TALK WITH THE OWNER DURING THE DEFERRAL PERIOD.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS PLAT.
THE APPLICATION HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
LEGAL HAS REQUESTED THAT, UH, THIS PLAT BE DEFERRED FOR FURTHER REVIEW OF THE SEPARATELY FILED DEED RESTRICTIONS.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE PLAT FOR LEGAL, UM, DEED REVIEW.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY STAFF HAS, I'M SORRY, STAFF HAS RECEIVED ADVANCED COMMENTS CONCERNING DRAINAGE ISSUES AND ON STREET PARKING IN THIS AREA.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ONE 17 ALESS PROPERTIES AT FORCE IS OPEN.
I DO HAVE A SPEAKER AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT, UM, OH, HERE WE GO.
AND THAT'S, UH, GLORIA, A-Y-A-L-A.
UH, WHERE THIS, UH, PROPERTY, I'M OPPOSED TO THIS APPLICATION UNTIL SOME SURVEY OR THE HOMEOWNERS ARE AWARE IF, WHEN Y'ALL LOOKED AT THIS, WAS THE FLOODING SURVEY ADDRESSED BECAUSE WHAT PLANS ARE BEING MADE TO AVOID FLOODING IN FRONT OF MY HOME? BECAUSE PRESENTLY THIS HOME FACED 1 35 WOOLWORTH AND THEY HAD A DR A DITCH WHERE THE WATER WOULD GO DOWN TO THE OTHER CORNER, WHICH WAS GAINESVILLE.
BUT NOW THAT THEY WANNA TURN IT AROUND AND PUT THREE HOMES ON THE FORCE SIDE, I'M ON THE NORTH SIDE.
THIS IS GONNA BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE I LIVE, THERE'S A DITCH ALL THE WAY ACROSS.
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BUT ON THIS SIDE WHERE THEY'RE FIXING TO BUILD THESE THREE HOMES, THERE'S JUST ABOUT 25 FEET OF DITCH AND THE REST HAS BEEN COVERED UP.SO IT'S NOT PROPERLY DRAINING.
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT RAINS? THE WATER COMES TO THE DITCH WHERE ON THE NORTH SIDE IT TAKES THE WATER AND IT DRAINS PROPERLY.
SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT PLANS ARE BEING MADE TO AVOID FLOODING IN FRONT OF THIS HOME? MY HOME WHEN THIS THREE ADDITIONAL LOTS FOR HOUSING HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
SO I THINK THAT THE FLOODING ISSUE NEEDS TO BE SURVEYED BECAUSE WHAT I DID IS I BROUGHT SOME PICTURES TO SHOW HOW WE HAVE THE DITCHES ON THE NORTH SIDE AND HOW WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE THESE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE BUILT.
SO HOW CAN YOU BUILD SOME HOMES WHEN THERE'S NO PROPER DRAINAGE? THANK YOU.
AND, AND ONE MORE THING, ONE MORE THING.
THERE'S BEEN, SO YOU'VE GOTTA WRAP UP PLEASE.
THERE'S BEEN, THERE'S BEEN FIVE HOMES BUILT IN BACK OF MY HOME AND THAT WATER IS STARTING TO COME INTO MY YARD.
HAVE HAD TO PUT A DRAINAGE FROM THE BACK TO THE FRONT.
AND I HAVE BROUGHT PICTURES TO INDICATE THANK YOU MS. A I, THIS DRAINAGE.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS AND I HAVE THE PICTURES.
WE, UM, DRAINAGE WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THIS PROJECT.
IT'S NOT ADDRESSED AT THIS STAGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE, THE PLATTING STAGE.
IT'LL BE ADDRESSED BY HOUSTON PUBLIC WORKS THROUGH PERMITTING AND, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN, IF YOU CAN GET YOUR PICTURES TO US ELECTRONICALLY, UM, TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE WILL SEE THAT THEY GET TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR, FOR THEIR REVIEW.
BUT THERE WILL BE A FORMAL DRAINAGE REVIEW.
DETENTION REQUIREMENTS HAVE TO BE MET.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS LATER IN THE, IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
SO WILL THERE BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT? NOPE.
I DO NOT THINK THERE WILL BE ANY.
THIS, THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IT'S STRICTLY ON THE PLATTING AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST HOW IT WORKS IN HOUSTON.
SO DO I NOTIFY OR NEED TO CONTACT THE PUBLIC WORKS? YEAH.
WHAT DO I NEED TO DO? WE'LL, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU WITH A, A SPECIFIC NAME OF SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP YOU IN PUBLIC WORKS.
IS OUR PUBLIC WORKS REPRESENTATIVE HERE TODAY OR ARE THEY ONLINE? I THINK THE BEST WAY.
DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO E CAN YOU EMAIL, UM, TO, UM, OUR STAFF MEMBER? I'VE GOT MY EMAIL HERE.
AND I HAVE THE PICTURES HERE AS WELL.
SO, MS. FLM, WHO'S THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF RIGHT BEHIND YOU, UM, IF YOU, SHE'LL GET YOUR INFORMATION.
I LEFT HER A MESSAGE YESTERDAY.
SHE'S PROBABLY BUSY GETTING READY FOR TODAY.
I LEFT HER A CALL, UM, MS. A MAY AYALA.
SO GET HER YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
I MEAN, GET HER CONTACT INFORMATION NOW.
SEND HER THE PICTURES AND SHE CAN POINT YOU TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO AND GIVE THEM TO YOU BEFORE THIS MEETING'S OVER.
HOW'S THAT? JUST, YEAH, JUST WAIT TILL SHE'S FINISHED AND THEN WE'LL, AND SO IT, THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ONE 17 ERRORLESS PROPERTIES AT FORCE? IF NOT, UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE ITEM FOR TWO WEEKS.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION? HINES.
IS THERE A SECOND? ALL ALLMAN.
ONE 17 IS DEFERRED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED.
ITEM ONE 18 IS BICYCLE BUNGALOWS REPL NUMBER TWO, THE SIGN IS LOCATED NORTH ALONG FOURTH STREET NORTH OF INTERSTATE 10 AND WEST OF AQUA STREET IN HOUSTON'S CORPORATE.
I I WAS WORKING FROM AN OLD LIST.
DO WE HAVE CAROLYN LOPEZ BACK ON ONE 17? YES SIR.
CAN WE JUST, WE'RE GOING OUT OF ORDER.
WE'VE ALREADY DEFERRED THE ITEM, BUT CAN WE GET, UM, MS. LOPEZ'S REMARKS ON THE RECORD? THANK YOU FOR ITEM ONE 17.
UM, CAROLYN LOPEZ, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF DENVER HARBOR, PART OF THE RESURRECTION CATHOLIC CHURCH.
UH, SOCIAL CONCERNS MINISTRY OF WHICH MISSY HAS BEEN A LIFELONG MEMBER OF THAT.
UM, SHE DID TURN IN THE PICTURE, SHE HAS PICTURES, EARS HERE.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE CHAPTER 42 APPLICATION OVER THE YEARS WITH RENEE POES AND WE CONTINUE TO DO
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THAT.I KNOW OF PEOPLE THAT JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM THERE, DURING THE HURRICANES IN THE STORMS AND THE FLOODING, THEY WERE DISPLACED.
THEY DIDN'T GET BACK FOR A YEAR FOR AT LEAST A YEAR IN THEIR HOMES.
SO JUST ASKING THAT CONSIDERATION BE GIVEN TO AT LEAST TRY TO GET SOME ASSISTANCE FOR THEM.
AND I ALSO HAVE TRIED TO CONTACT THE, UH, CITY OF HOUSTON COUNCIL SIMPSON'S OFFICE.
'CAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GET, UM, A FLOODING MAPPING TOOL, WHICH THEY SAID THEY SENT ME THAT TOO.
BUT I'LL REVIEW THAT WITH DOT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
OKAY, SO NOW WE ARE BACK ON ITEM ONE 18.
ITEM ONE 18 IS BICYCLE BUNGALOWS PLAT NUMBER TWO.
THE SITE IS LOCATED NORTH ALONG FOURTH STREET NORTH OF INTERSTATE 10 AND WEST OF OXFORD STREETS IN HOUSTON.
CORPORATE LIMITS, THE REASON FOR REPL IS TO RELOCATE THE GARAGE ENTRY.
THIS PLAT IS LOCATED IN A MINIMUM LOT SIZE AREA.
HOWEVER, THE CURRENT PLAT WAS CREATED IN 20 IN 2018 PRIOR TO THE CREATION OF THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN 2019 WITH THREE LOTS TAKEN ACCESS FROM A 16 FOOT SHARE DRIVEWAY.
THE PROPOSED REPL ON THE LEFT IS THE EXACT NUMBER OF LOTS AND THE LOT SIZES HAS NOT CHANGED.
THERE ARE REPLAY TO THE PROPERTY TO TAKE GARAGE ACCESS FROM THE 15 FEET, UH, PUBLIC ALLEY.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS PLAT.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
MADAM CHAIR, IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR, UH, ITEM ONE 18 IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP IN ADVANCE.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE CHAT? NO.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ONE 18 BICYCLE BUNGALOWS? IF NOT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
OH, COMMISSIONER BALDWIN, I JUST WANNA COME IN.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M VERY NERVOUS ABOUT THIS PLAT.
WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE TRIED TO DIVIDE A LOT AND HAVE ACCESS THROUGH THE SHARED ALLEY.
AND THIS IS NOT REALLY IN KEEPING WITH THE HEIGHTS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE HAS TO BE THROUGH THE SHARED DRIVE.
THE FRONT DOOR HAS TO BE THROUGH THE SHARED DRIVE, IS THAT CORRECT? THE ENTRANCE NEEDS TO NOT BE OFF THE PUBLIC ALLEY.
WE HAD ONE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHERE IT WAS THIS FIRETRUCK IT WAS THIS ONE, BUT YEAH.
AND IT, BUT WE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS FOR THE FRONT DOORS OFF THE PUBLIC ALLEY.
THE FRONT DOOR MUST COME FROM THE SHARED DRIVE AND THE, FOR THE FIRETRUCK TO EVEN FIND IT, IT, IT WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE ALLEY.
BUT ALL THEY'RE REALLY DOING IS CHANGING THE GARAGE BUILD LINE.
THAT'S ALL NOW BE OFF THE ALLEY.
YES, BUT SO THIS 15 FOOT ALLEY, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SETBACK THAT'S NOT NOTED ON THIS PLAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 24 FOOT TURNING RADIUS.
SO WHY ISN'T THE SETBACK OF THE GARAGE NOTED ON THE PLAT? IF THEY'RE GONNA ENTER IT, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THEY'RE ENTERING THROUGH THE SHARED DRIVE, NOT THROUGH THE PUBLIC ALLEY, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A SETBACK THAT MEETS THE CODE ON THE PLAT.
WELL, WE DO HAVE A, UM, SITE PLAN.
CAN YOU GO TO THE SITE PLAN? SO THIS IS HOW IT'S, UM, IS SHOWN HERE, HOW THEY'RE GONNA TAKE ACCESS FROM THE, FROM THE ALLEY AND IT'S, IT'S JUST FOR A GARAGE ACCESS.
WHY ISN'T THE GARAGE BUILD LINE NOTED ON THE PLAQUE? THERE IS NO GARAGE BUILT LINE IN CHAPTER FOOT 42.
UM, BUT IT STILL WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MEET THE 24 FOOT YES.
THEY HAVE TO MEET, THEY HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS PER, UM, THE IDM INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL.
SO WHERE ARE THE FRONT OF THESE HOUSES FACING? THE SHARED DRIVE OR THE ALLEY? THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, FACING THE SHARED DRIVEWAY.
AND I BELIEVE THE SHARED DRIVEWAY IS GONNA BE A GREEN DRIVEWAY, RIGHT? IS THAT YES, IT'S NOT PLAN.
IT'S NO LONGER GONNA BE A SHARED DRIVEWAY.
THEY'RE PLANNING TO MAKE IT A GREEN AREA.
WE CAN'T STOP 'EM FROM DOING THAT, BUT I I JUST, WE COULD STOP THEM FROM TAKING, MAKING THE FRONT OF IT INTO THE PUBLIC ALLEY.
THEY WOULD NEED PERMISSION TO DO THAT.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT THOUGH,
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT.
BUT IS THERE ANYTHING STOPPING THEM FROM, 'CAUSE THEY CAN PUT THE GARAGE IN THE BACK.
THEY HAVE A GARAGE BUILD LINE AND IF THEY WANT TO ADD THE GARAGE TO THE SHARED DRIVE, THEY CAN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO US TO DO THAT.
SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THE ALLEY OR THE SHARED DRIVE FOR THE GARAGE ON THIS PLAT.
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THERE'S NO LONGER A SHARED DRIVE, RIGHT? THEY'RE JUST TAKING IT.UM, IT'S ON THE, IT'S ON THE, IT'S THIS SHE DRIVE.
OTHERWISE THEY WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE.
LET'S LET, GOOD AFTERNOON, MS. MACHO.
WOULD YOU CLARIFY? GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS DIPTI MATH WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS, THIS PROJECT CURRENTLY COMPLIES WITH CHAPTER 42.
UM, THE ACCESS, THE, THE VEHICULAR ACCESS FOR THE THREE LOTS IS COMING FROM THE ALLEY.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE CHAPTER 42 DOESN'T ALLOW SOLE ACCESS FROM ALLEY FOR LOTS, THEY MUST MAINTAIN THE SHARED DRIVEWAY.
SO SHARED DRIVEWAY IS STILL THERE AND IT'LL BE GREEN.
HOWEVER, THE VEHICLES COULD DRIVE ON TOP OF IT.
BUT THERE IS NO GARAGE TO GET FROM SHARED DRIVEWAY INTO THE HOUSES.
THE GARAGE ACCESS FOR ALL THESE THREE HOUSES ARE COMING FROM THE ALLEY.
BUT WHAT PREVENTS THEM FROM USING THE GARAGE FROM THE SHARED DRIVE, BECAUSE THERE'S A GARAGE BUILD LINE THERE.
THEY COULD USE THE SHARED DRIVE FOR THE GARAGE IF THEY WANTED TO.
THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO REASON TO PREVENT THEM FROM USING THE ALLEY.
SO THEY ARE SHOWING US THAT THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND THEY ARE RE-PLANTING TO REMOVE THOSE LITTLE ARROWS THAT ARE ON THE PLAT.
AND THERE IS A VERBIAGE THAT GOES ON THE PLA FOR ALL SHARED DRIVEWAY PROJECTS THAT ACCESS MUST COME FROM SHARED DRIVEWAY ONLY VEHICULAR ACCESS MUST COME FROM SHARED DRIVEWAY ONLY THEY'RE REVISING THAT TO ALLOW ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY.
AND THE FRONT DOOR THOUGH, IS THERE SOME RESTRICTION THAT THE FRONT DOOR HAS TO BE OFF THE SHARED DRIVEWAY? NOT THE PUBLIC ALLEY.
THERE IS NOTHING NO RESTRICTION ON, IN CHAPTER 42 LIKE THAT.
IT IS ONLY FOR THE PUBLIC STREET TO HAVE THE FRONT DOOR IF YOU'RE TAKING ACCESS FROM THE SHARED DRIVEWAY.
SO IN THIS CASE, THEIR FRONT DOOR IS IN FACT ALONG THE SHARED DRIVEWAY PER THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE SHOWN US.
COMMISSIONER ROSENBERG, DOES THIS IMPACT IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTED? DO I MEAN, IT'S NOT IMPACTING ANYBODY ELSE THAT MAY HAVE A SHARED DRIVE THERE OR IN THE FUTURE.
THEY, THEY WILL JUST HAVE TO COME BACK AND REPL IT IS WHAT? OH, SO THE SHARE DRIVE IS ON THEIR THREE LOTS AS IT'S TYPICAL TOWN? YES.
THANKS COMMISSIONER SIGLER, WHAT IS, AND I, I THINK THIS
SO, SO, UM, THEY, THEY CAN, SO THERE IS NO NO NO VIOLATION OF THE CODE.
IF THEY ARE TAKING ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY, IF THEY HAVE SOLE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY AND THE SHARED DRIVEWAY WAS NOT THERE, THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE CODE.
BUT THEY ARE MAINTAINING THE SHARED DRIVEWAY.
SO EVEN THOUGH IF, EVEN THOUGH THE SITE PLAN IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING TODAY BECAUSE IT IS A CONS, IT IS A PLA WITHOUT A VARIANCE.
THE PLA ITSELF INDICATES THE ACCESS IS COMING FROM THE ALLEY AND THE SHARED DRIVEWAY IS STILL PART OF THE PLA.
SO WE DON'T MIND, WE DON'T, WE THEY'RE MEETING THE RULES WHETHER THEY COME OFF THE SHARED DRIVEWAY OR THE ALLEY.
SO DON'T LOOK AT THE REALLY THE BUILDING.
'CAUSE IT COULD FLIP AND BE EITHER THING IN OUR DECISION.
BUT IF THEY'RE SUBMITTING THIS TODAY TO FLIP THE LITTLE ARROWS FROM THE SHARED DRIVEWAY TO THE BACK, WOULD THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND FLIP THE ARROWS AGAIN THEN? WHY ARE THEY DOING IT'S A GOOD THEN WHY ARE THEY DOING IT? A GOOD QUESTION.
I'M THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK THEY MAY NOT HAVE TO BECAUSE WE WILL NOT PUT THE NOTE THAT THE SHARED RIGHT NOW ALL PLA SORRY TO FOR A CONVOLUTED ANSWER A LITTLE BIT, BUT RIGHT NOW SHARED DRIVEWAY PROJECTS, ALL SHARED DRIVEWAY PROJECT MUST PUT A NOTE SAYING THE ACCESS IS ONLY FROM THE SHARED DRIVEWAY WHEN THEY REMOVE THAT NOTE AND ONLY A TRIANGLE IS THERE, I I THINK THEY CAN REVERSE IT IF THEY WANTED TO, RIGHT? MM-HMM
BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS, IT IS NOT.
AND I'M LOOKING, I I'M LOOKING TOWARDS LEGAL.
IT'S AN INDICATION ON THE PLAT, BUT THERE IS NO NODE THAT WILL FORCE THEM TO TAKE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY.
BUT ALL INDICATION IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IT.
THEIR ACCESS IS FROM THE ALLEY AND WHEN THEY BUILD THIS AND THEY PUT ALL THAT GREEN SPACE IN, IT'D BE HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THOSE THREE PEOPLE WOULD AGREE TO TAKE THE GREEN BELT OUT AND TO PUT THE DRIVEWAY.
AND EVEN IF THEY DID, IT'LL STILL MEET THE AUDIENCE.
RIGHT? IT STILL MEETS THE CODE.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN
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ESSEX OR 1530 HAWTHORNE AND TREES.WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE IS THAT THE FRONT DOOR HAS TO TAKE ACCESS OFF OF THE SHARED DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S MY CONCERN THAT IN THE HEIGHTS WE START SUBDIVIDING THESE SLOTS AND THEY TAKE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I REALLY CARE ABOUT.
SO IN THIS CASE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE THINGS I, I THINK YOUR ACCESS POINT ABOUT ON THE SHARED DRIVEWAY PROBABLY IS TIED TO TWO THINGS.
HOW WILL POST OFFICE KNOW WHETHER FOR HONDURAS AND HOW WOULD FIRE NO IN EITHER CASES THE SITE IS ONLY A HUNDRED FEET DEEP.
SO FIRE WILL FIGHT FIRE FROM THE STREET.
THEY WILL NOT GO IN THE ALLEY OR THE SHARED DRIVEWAY.
SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THEY ARE.
THEY WILL FIGHT THE FIRE FROM THE STREET FOR POST, POST AND POST OFFICE INFORMATION.
THE FRONT DOORS WILL BE A LONG SHARED DRIVEWAY.
AND WHAT ABOUT FOR, UH, CITY OF HOUSTON GARBAGE COLLECTION? THEY HAVE TO BE ON A PUBLIC STREET, CORRECT? THEY HAVE TO BE ON A PUBLIC STREET.
SO IN ANY CASE THEY HAVE TO DRAG THE UH, IF THEY ARE WANTING TO PUT A SOLID WASTE NOTE THAT THEY WILL MEET THE CODE TO TO, UH, FOR SOLID WASTE PICKUP BY THE CITY, THEY WILL HAVE TO DRAG THEIR UH, UH, TRASH RECEPTACLES OUTSIDE ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF A, IF NOT THEN THEY WILL HAVE PRIVATE PICKUP.
OKAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UM, IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLA SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION? CLARK? CLARK.
IS THERE A SECOND? ROSENBERG? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM ONE 19 IS BUYS TOWN HOMES.
THE SITE IS LOCATED EAST ALONG EAST ALONG ENGLAND STREET NORTH OF DRAPER STREET, WEST OF CULLEN BOULEVARD AND HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS.
THE REASON FOR RE PLAT IS TO CREATE THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS PLAT.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WOULD NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CBC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ONE 19 BUYS TOWN HOMES IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON ONE 19 HEARING? NO RESPONSE TO PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION JONES? IS THERE A SECOND? ALL ALLMAN? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM ONE 20, ITEM ONE 20 IS BRICK FIELDER TOWN HOMES.
THE SITE IS LOCATED EAST ALONG EASTWOOD STREET NORTH OF DRAPER STREET AND WEST OF CULLEN BOULEVARD IN HOUSTON.
CORPORATE LIMITS THE REASON FOR RE PLAT IS TO CREATE THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO BEARINGS REQUESTED WITH THIS PLAT.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OF THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO PROVE THE PLAT PER THE CBC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.
AT THIS TIME THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM ONE 20 BRICK FIELDER TOWN HOMES IS OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 20 HEARING? NO RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION? MODEST? IS THERE A SECOND CLARK? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED EAST ALONG BRUN STREET, SOUTH OF VERMONT STREET AND WEST OF SOUTH SHEPHERD DRIVE AND HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS.
THE REASON FOR RE PLAT IS TO CREATE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CBC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES TO COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.
AT THIS TIME THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN FOR ITEM 1 21.
IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
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1 21? HEARING NO RESPONSE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION MOTIONS SIGLER? IS THERE A MA? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM 1 22 IS CHAMPION SOUTH PARTIALLY PLAT NUMBER ONE.
THE SIGNS LOCATED WEST ALONG ROWLAND WATER DRIVE EAST OF CHAMPIONS DRIVE NORTH OF CYPRESS CREEK PARKWAY IN HOUSTON.
X EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION IN HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS.
THE REASON FOR RE PLAT IS TO REMOVE THE RELEASE 10 FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT ALONG THE REAR OF THE LOT.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED WITH THIS PLAT.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT.
ARE THOSE FILED SEPARATELY? HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEER'S OFFICE HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS.
REPL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.
AT THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 22, CHAMPION SOUTH IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
THE APPLICANT HAS UM, INDICATED THAT SHE IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS, IF THERE'S NO ONE, DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 22? CHAMPION SOUTH? HEARING NO RESPONSE.
STAFF QUESTION FOR STAFF? OH, QUESTION COMMISSIONER.
UM, SO WERE THERE ANY EXISTING UTILITIES AND IF SO, HAVE WE GOTTEN A CONFIRMATION THAT ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN EITHER RELOCATED OR ABANDONED OR THERE WERE NO UTILITIES IN THE UM, IN THE EASEMENT THERE.
AND WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED A RELEASE FROM CENTER POINT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM 1 22? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MODEST.
IS THERE A SECOND? JONES? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG AND EAST OF NORTH MCGREGOR WAY SOUTH OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE WITHIN HOUSTON CITY LIMITS.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RELA IS TO CREATE FIVE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ALONG A SHARED DRIVEWAY.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT DOES NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME AND STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS.
ANY UM, I WAS GONNA ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
I'M ON THE WRONG CATEGORY HERE.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 23, GENEVA PLACE IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
ANYONE LISTENING OR WITH US WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 23 HEARING NO RESPONSE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT WITH SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? CLARK? IS THERE A SECOND? A ALLMAN? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF CYPRESS ROSE HILL ROAD ALONG OAK CLUSTER COURT IN THE ETJ OF HARRIS COUNTY.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS RE PLAT IS TO CREATE ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT DOES NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLATTER.
STASH RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME AND STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 24 T'S EDITION IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
ANYONE LISTENING WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 24 GERTS EDITION? HEARING NO RESPONSE.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
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IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION JONES SECOND SIGLER.THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF GOFOR STREET, SOUTH OF FAULKNER STREET.
THE PURPOSE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS RELA IS TO CREATE THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLATTER.
THOSE FILED SEPARATELY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS.
UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING'S OPEN.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE CHAT? NO.
IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 25 MISTRAL TOWN HOMES HEARING NO RESPONSE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF BALDWIN? IS THERE A SECOND? MON ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM 1 26 IS PARK AT CHAMPIONS PARK.
THIS ITEM WAS DEFERRED AT THE PREVIOUS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF CUT ROAD AND CHAMPION CENTER DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 42 DASH 1 93 TO ALLOW A COMMERCIAL RESERVE TO BE REPLANTED INTO A RECREATION RESERVE.
STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST.
THE SITE WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED AS AN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE WITH RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN 1996.
OVER TIME THE PROPERTY WAS LATER REPLANTED INTO A COMMERCIAL RESERVE IN 2008.
NOW THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CREATE A RECREATION RESERVE BASED ON THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE RECREATIONAL RESERVE WILL FUNCTION VERY SIMILAR TO A PARK INCLUDING WALKING TRAILS, BENCHES, AND OTHER PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND ONCE IT'S CONSTRUCTED, IT COULD PROMOTE PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES AND ADD A SENSE OF COMMUNITY REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
UH, MADAM CHAW WOULD LIKE TO NOTE STAFF WILL BE MARKING UP THIS PLAT TO DEDICATE FIVE FEET ALONG THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE CUT ROAD WITH THE FINAL PLAT APPLICATION.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS ON MISS ITEM.
AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE REQUESTED VARIANCE AND APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE C PC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 26 IS CONTINUED.
UM, THE APPLICANT, JEFF PENA, IS HERE WITH US FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER SIGNED.
MS. BUSSON B-U-I-S-S-O-N IS NOT PRESENT.
CAN YOU HEAR ME, MS. BUSAN? OKAY.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAT WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 26? UM, ANYONE LISTENING OR WITH US TODAY WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 26? UH, IF, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? MADAM CHAIRMAN? YES.
I CAN GO RIGHT AHEAD AND PLEASE CONFIRM YOUR NAME IS, UH, SPELLED B-U-I-S-S-O-N? YES.
UH, MADAM CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
AND, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
UH, AS I WAS SIGNING ON ON THE INTERNET, UH, IT DID NOT GIVE ME AN OPTION TO, UH, BE UNDECIDED OR SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PARK.
A PARK IS WONDERFUL TO HAVE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
UH, THEREFORE, I, UH, HAD SOME CONCERNS.
AND BECAUSE I DID NOT HAVE THE OPTION, I CHECKED OFF
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OPPOSED.I AM NOT OPPOSED FOR THE RECORD.
I AM NOT OPPOSED OF THIS PART.
AND NOR AM AM I CONTESTING IT.
UH, I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO HAVE.
SO I WOULD LIKE THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT.
UM, I DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THE PLACEMENT OF THE PARKING LOT AND, UH, TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
UH, SO IF, IF, UH, PERHAPS THE COMMISSION CAN LET ME KNOW WHO TO ADDRESS THAT TOO, UH, I COULD FURTHER, UH, DO SOME, UH, INVESTIGATING OR RESEARCH REGARDING, REGARDING THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
'CAUSE WE DID HAVE YOU DOWN AS FOR, AS BEING OPPOSED.
UM, LET ME ASK IF THAT CONCLUDES YOUR REPORTS.
UH, MR. PENA, JEFF PENA, COULD WE GET YOU TO COME FORWARD? THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH US.
CAN WE, UM, RATHER THAN TRY TO ADDRESS THIS HERE, COULD WE FIND A WAY TO GET YOU IN TOUCH WITH MS. BUSAN, UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? IS THAT OKAY? MS. BUSAN, IF WE GET JEFF PENA AT, UM, WHO IS THE DESIGN ENGINEER FOR IT'S SANDER ENGINEERING, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
UM, MS. BUSAN, ARE YOU ON A COMPUTER? YES MA'AM, I AM.
IF YOU CAN USE THE CHAT FEATURE TO PUT YOUR, UM, YOUR, EITHER YOUR PHONE NUMBER OR YOUR EMAIL IN THE CHAT SPACE, THEN WE CAN GET THAT TO MR. PENA AND HE CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
UH, I'M, I'M SORRY, MADAM CHAIRMAN, I
MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE HER EMAIL ADDRESS.
WE'LL GIVE IT TO MR. PENA TO GET IN TOUCH.
AND IF IT'S SANDER, S-A-N-D-E-R ENGINEERING, YOU CAN CALL THEM AND ASK FOR JEFF PENA PENA IF, UM, IF YOU NEED TO REACH OUT TO HIM FIRST.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A BEAUTIFUL PARK.
UM, WITH THAT, IF WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 26, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
UM, ANY BEFORE WE VOTE, IS THERE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY DISCUSSION ON PARK AT CHAMPIONS PARK? MADAM CHAIR? YES.
I BELIEVE THIS IS UTIL THE LOCAL UTILITY DISTRICT THAT'S DOING THIS.
AND I JUST SIMPLY WANNA OFFER, YOU KNOW, KUDOS TO THE DISTRICT, COMMEND THEM FOR CONVERTING THIS TRACK TO A, TO A LOCAL PARK FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE VERY, VERY GLAD TO SEE IT.
UM, ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES, COMMISSIONER ROSENBERG? UH, JUST FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION, UM, YOU SAID THIS WAS GONNA BE A RECREATIONAL EASEMENT, RIGHT? RESERVE RECREATION RESERVE.
SO SINCE IT'S A INDEPENDENT DISTRICT THAT THEY CAN TAKE THE PARK AWAY AT A FUTURE TIME AND RE PLA IT.
THEY'RE NOT MAKING A PUBLIC DEDICATION OF PARK SPACE, CORRECT? YEAH, IT, IT, IT'S TECHNICALLY A RECREATIONAL RESERVE THAT WILL FUNCTION SIMILAR TO A PARK, BUT IT'S NOT DEDICATED PARK.
IT'S NOT DEDICATED AS A PUBLIC PART SPECIFICALLY.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF, SO THEY'RE NOT GU THEY DON'T, THIS PLAT DOESN'T EVEN GUARANTEE THEY'LL BUILD IT, NOT THE PLAT ITSELF.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? DID OKAY.
UH, THEN, UH, WE WOULD SEEK A MOTION FOR, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS CLEARLY TO, UH, GRANT THE REQUESTED VARIANCE AND APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION? CLARK.
UH, THAT'LL TAKE US TO ITEM 1 27.
ITEM 1 27 PARK PLACE PARTIAL REPL.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE CITY, UH, LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF KINGSLEY AND COLGATE STREETS.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REPLANT IS TO CREATE ONE UNRESTRICTED RESERVE.
REVIEW BY LEGAL HAS DETERMINED THAT THIS REQUEST VIOLATES THE RESTRICTIONS.
THE PROPERTY IS DE RESTRICTED TO ONE RESIDENCE PER TRACT.
IT CANNOT BE PLOTTED AS AN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT MET ALL THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
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NO VARIANCES REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS PLAT.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
OKAY, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 27 PARK PLACE PARTIAL REPL NUMBER SIX IS OPEN.
UM, I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 27 PARK PLACE PARTIAL REPL NUMBER SIX, HEARING NO RESPONSE.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AS YOU SEE IS TO DISAPPROVE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE.
IS THERE A SECOND? VICTOR? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRY 1 27 IS DISAPPROVED.
1 28 ITEM 1 28 PARK PLACE PARTIAL REPLANT.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE CITY AT THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF KINGSLEY AND DOVER STREETS.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REPLANT IS TO CREATE ONE UNRESTRICTED RESERVE.
REVIEW BY LEGAL HAS DETERMINED THAT THIS REQUEST VIOLATES THE RESTRICTIONS THE PROPERTY CANNOT BE PLATTED AT AS IN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE.
THE PLA APPLICANT HAS MET ALL THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS PLANT.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE THE PLANT SUBJECT TO CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES WITH THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 28, WHICH IS PARK PLACE PARTIAL REPL NUMBER SEVEN IS OPEN.
DOES ANYONE WANTED TO SPEAK ON 1 28? IF NOT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE THE PLAT.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION BALDWIN? IS THERE A SECOND? JONES? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR OF MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM ONE 30, ROSEWOOD ESTATE PARTIAL WE NUMBER TWO.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN HOUSTON CITY LIMIT EAST OF HOMESTEAD ROAD AND NORTH OF LANE ROAD.
THE PURPOSE OF THE WE PLA IS TO CREATE TWO SINGLE FAMILY LOT.
NO VARIANCES ARE BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM AND ALL THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS WHERE MET REVIEWED BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THE PROPOSED WE PLA WILL NOT VIOLATE ANY RESTRICTION ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILES SEPARATELY.
THAT RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITION THAT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS IN ADVANCE.
MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU PLEASE HIT THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ONE 30 ROSEWOOD ESTATES IS OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ONE 30 HEARING NO RESPONSE.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS IS THEIR DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION MOTION CLARK SECOND MODEST.
ITEM 1 31 IS SHEPHERD OAKS PARTIALLY PLAT NUMBER TWO, THE SIZE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST INTERSECTION OF JANET AND BRICKMAN STREETS AND HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS.
THE REASON FOR RE PLAT IS TO CREATE NINE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THIS PLAT WAS DEFERRED AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION PER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
STAFF HAS COORDINATED WITH HOUSTON PUBLIC WORKS, UH, CITY TRACK ENGINEER AND TRANSIT DRAINAGE OPERATION STAFF CONCERNING THE SAFETY OF THIS PROPOSAL IN RELATION TO PEDESTRIAN AND AND TRAFFIC ISSUES, STAFF LEARNED THAT EACH SCHOOL DETERMINES AND MANAGES THEIR TRAFFIC PLANS FOR DROP OFF AND PICKUP.
THERE ARE NO REGULATIONS FOR DISTANCE OF CURB CUTS OR DRIVEWAY DESIGN IN RELATION TO AN INTERSECTION NEAR A SCHOOL.
IN HOUSTON'S INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN MANUAL.
HOUSTON PUBLIC WORKS STAFF INDICATED THAT DURHAM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TRAFFIC WOULD BE IMPACTED BY RESIDENTIAL HOMES BUILT ON THE EAST SIDE OF BRICKMAN.
IF PARKING IS ALLOWED ON THE ROADWAY DURING THE SCHOOL'S INTAKE AND DISMISSAL DURING
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DROP OFF AND INTAKE.THERE ARE NO PARKING SIGNS DURING THE DROP OFF AND PICKUP TIMES.
THE PROPOSED FRONT LOADER LAYOUT PROPO DOES POSE.
IT POSES POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUES TO PEDESTRIAN AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS, HOWEVER, THEY LAY AS PROPOSED MEETS THE RULES.
WE REACHED OUT TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT PROPOSING A SHARED DRIVEWAY AND HE INDICATED THAT THE DEVELOPER PREFERRED THIS DESIGN.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS PLAT.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS, REJECT IT.
LEGAL HAS REVIEWED THE ITEM AND IT DOES NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACEBOOK PLAT.
ARE THOSE FILED SEPARATELY? STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAID PER TO CBC 1 0 1 FARM CONDITIONS.
STAFF RECEIVED ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM, LAST POINT OF COMMISSION CONCERNING TRAFFIC ISSUES AND SAFETY OF CHILDREN WALKING TO SCHOOL AND HAS ALSO RECEIVED ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, UH, DURING THIS LAST, UM, TWO WEEKS TIME CONCERNING TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND CHILDREN TRAVELING TO SCHOOL WITH THIS LAYOUT.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES COMMISSION, YOU MAY CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 1 31 IS CONTINUED.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, WITH US TODAY TWO REPRESENTATIVES OF THE APPLICANT.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL MR. UH, SALMAN.
MY NAME IS SALMAN MRAAH WITH MOMENTUM ENGINEERING.
WE ARE, UH, APPLICANT, UH, ENGINEERS AND WE HAVE FILED THE PLAT AND ASSESSED STAFF SAID THAT, UH, THE PLAT MEETS ALL CHAPTER 42 REQUIREMENTS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO STICK WITH THE SAME SCHEME, WHICH WE
ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER? OKAY.
AND, AND SO, AND YOU UNDERSTAND OUR POSITION IS THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T LIKE THESE FRONT LOADERS AND THIS IS A WHOLE BLOCK OF THEM.
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT FOR US, THIS IS A SHALL PROOF ITEM.
BUT I GUESS THERE MAY BE SOME COMMISSIONERS THAT WANNA FIND OUT WHAT, WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO BUILD FRONT LOADERS? W WHY, WHY, WHY? I AM JUST THE ENGINEER, SO I'M NOT
YOU'RE GONNA PERHAPS, UM, OUR NEXT SPEAKER CAN, CAN ADDRESS THAT.
BUT LET ME SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
IF I WANNA LOOK AT, UM, EXHIBIT WE HAVE EVERYBODY IN THAT STREET HAS THE SAME, UH, SCHEME, WHICH WE ARE DOING.
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD PROJECTOR.
HTV PLEASE SWITCH TO OVERHEAD.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED ALL THAT, SIR.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP YOU.
SO, I MEAN, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET THE VOTES THAT ARE NECESSARY.
BUT YOU UNDERSTAND WE ARE LOOKING AT ANY WAY WE CAN TO STOP THIS BECAUSE WE TRULY ALSO DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SAFE.
AND WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT IT'S A HAZARD TO THE SCHOOL CHILDREN.
AND WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME RIGHT OF WAY LEFT OVER FOR GUESTS PARKING ON THE PUBLICLY OWNED RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT WE CAN TO TRY AND MODIFY THE RULES IN THE FUTURE UNTIL THEN, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT IF IN FACT, SOMEONE IS HURT BACKING OUT OF THIS DRIVEWAY IN THE MORNING.
SO, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER.
AND SO WE JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, WE RECOGNIZE A HAZARD AND WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT WE CAN TO TRY AND SOLVE IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENT? COMMISSIONER ROSENBERG? TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER FROM A PERSONAL OPINION, UM, MY DAUGHTER GOES TO SCHOOL JUST LIKE THIS AND HAVE TO DROP HER OFF EVERY MORNING.
UM, AND PEOPLE ARE BLOCKING ALL THOSE DRIVEWAYS.
AND SO THIS POTENTIALLY COULD IMPACT THE DEVELOPER AND THE SELLER'S ABILITY TO SELL THEIR HOUSE.
AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TELL YOU IS THE COMMUNITY HAS COME AND ASKED YOU TO CONSIDER SOMETHING ELSE.
WE PERSONALLY ARE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER SOMETHING ELSE.
WE BELIEVE IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EVERYBODY.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD TAKE THAT MESSAGE BACK.
COMMISSIONER GARZA, CHIEF GARZA.
UM, PARDON MY VOICE AND I APOLOGIZE AGAIN.
JUST, UM, JUST TO REITERATE WHAT THE OTHER TWO COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID.
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I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY.HOWEVER, AS CO-CHAIR OF BELIEVABLE PLACES THIS COMMITTEE, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE WANNA DO IS ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE WANT TO PUSH FOR ALTERNATIVES TO FRONT LOADERS.
AND, UM, THIS, UM, UH, THIS APPLICANT HAS, THIS IS HIS THIRD APPLICATION HERE, WHERE THERE ARE ONLY FRONT LOADERS AND THERE ARE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD WITHOUT LOSING PROPERTY, WITHOUT LOSING SPACE.
UH, SOMETHING THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAFER FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, AS OUR OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID, YES, YOU ARE MEETING CHAPTER 42, WE WOULD AS A COMMISSION.
AND, UM, WELL, LET ME PULL BACK.
UM, I WOULD AS A COMMISSIONER, UH, ADVISE YOU TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN AND SEE IF YOU HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVES.
THREE DRIVEWAYS WOULD BE BETTER THAN HOWEVER MANY YOU HAVE.
UM, THAT WOULD ENSURE SAFETY, IT WOULD ALLOW PARKING AND IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMISSION, I THINK WOULD LOOK UPON AND BE GRATEFUL FOR.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE APPLICANT.
WHO IS, UH, MEME? IS IT? UM, KAPU.
OKAY, WE'LL LET HIM FINISH AT THE END.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRIS BECK.
UM, I THINK THE ISSUES ADDRESSED INSERTING DRIVEWAYS, UH, INTO INTERSECTIONS AROUND SCHOOLS.
PRIMARY WALKING GATES HAS BEEN THOROUGHLY, UH, ANALYZING.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND ANALYZING THE SAFETY OF THESE KIDS.
UH, TO RESPOND TO THE ENGINEER'S COMMENTS, THE DEVELOPMENT IMMEDIATELY OF THE SOUTH IS ACTUALLY USING AN INTERNAL DRIVEWAY.
AND THE ONE FURTHER TO THE SOUTH THAT ARE FRONT LOADERS ARE NOT THE PICKUP DROP OFF INTERSECTION OF THE SCHOOL.
SO THIS IS NOT AN EXACT MIRROR OF THE OTHERS.
THIS IS DIRECTLY IMPACTING CHILDREN'S SAFETY.
UH, YOU HAVE SPEED HUMPS, YOU HAVE OTHER ISSUES THAT THIS WILL ALSO IMPACT.
THE CITY JUST REBUILT THIS STREET LESS THAN THREE YEARS AGO TO INCLUDE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.
SO THEY'RE NOT IMPACTED BY IMPACTING STUDENTS.
AND I'M JUST, UH, I'M SAD TO SEE, UH, SUCH A DANGER BEING INTRODUCED THAT IS VERY UNNECESSARY AND NOT NEEDING TO BE INTRODUCED AS IT AS IT'S PRESENTED.
THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH US ON THIS, MR. DR. BECK.
I WISH WE, UM, WE HAD A BETTER RESULT, BUT, UH, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME NEW REGULATIONS THAT, UH, THAT'LL MITIGATE THIS PROBLEM A LITTLE BIT IN THE FUTURE.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? UM, OKAY, THEN THE FINAL SPEAKER IS MEME.
UM, I, I CAN'T QUITE READ THE HANDWRITING.
DEAR COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, I'M A, UH, INVESTOR FOR THIS PROPERTY.
I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, WE COMMITTED TO ENSURING THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND OUR DEVELOPMENT IS MEETING THE CITY, CHAPTER 43 REQUIREMENTS.
AND OUR NEIGHBOR, UH, DEVELOPMENTS ALSO USE FRONT LOADING GARAGE LIKE OURS JUST TWO MONTHS AGO, ONE OF THE, OUR NEXT DOOR, UH, PROPERTY, UH, THE, UH, THE FRONT LOADER OR APPROVED, UH, BY CITY.
AND WE FEEL THAT OUR DEVELOPING IS BEING UNFAIRLY TARGETING, EVEN THOUGHT IT'S MEETING THE CITY'S CHAPTER TWO REQUIREMENT.
YEAH, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
YOUR DEVELOPMENT AS PROPOSED MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF CURRENTLY OF CHAPTER 42.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? COMMISSIONER SEGLER? I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
DID YOU SAY THAT AFTER TRAFFIC REVIEWED IT, THEY, THEY, YOUR STAFF'S OPINION WAS THAT IT WAS NOT SAFE? YES.
THAT THERE WERE POTENTIAL OKAY.
SAFETY ISSUES DID AND, UM, ALSO WE STAFF WANTED TO ADD THAT EX HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
THANKS MS. FL, CAN YOU COME BACK? STAFF ALSO WANTED TO ADD THAT THEY CAN PERFECTLY, UH, DO A SHARED DRIVEWAY OFF OF JANICE AND THEN THEY HAVE MORE BUILDABLE AREA AND THEY COULD USE, UM, THE ACCESS FROM JAN AND THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY FRONT LOADERS ON BRINKMAN.
AND WE SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THE, THE NINE LOTS BECAUSE IT MEETS THE RULES.
CAN THE APPLICANT COME BACK UP, PLEASE? OH, SURE.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE ONLY FOR SEC.
I THINK, UH, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT HEARING, HEARING THAT STAFF THINKS IT'S UNSAFE.
I, I AM CURIOUS WHAT IS YOUR REASON FOR PURSUING IT? THE, THE WAY
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YOU ARE.WHERE THERE THE SAME NUMBER OF LOTS MORE BUILDABLE SPACE.
UM, JUST KNOWING THE NIGHTMARE BEING A MOM OF THREE.
THE NIGHTMARE OF FRONT LOADERS WHEN YOU'RE IN A CARPOOL SITUATION THAT YOUR FUTURE OWNERS COULD HAVE.
ACTUALLY JUST OUR NEXT DOOR, AS I TRIED TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THOUGH, BECAUSE YOU ARE AT THE INTERSECTION, WHICH I THINK IT'S A, IT, IT IS DIFFERENT TO ME BECAUSE OF THE, UM, T INTERSECTION.
WE JUST TRYING TO CATCH THE SAME, UH, UP LOOKING FOR THE OLD WAY BECAUSE IF WE PUT THE SHARED DRIVEWAY THERE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR ISSUES BECAUSE THE SHARED DRIVEWAY ALSO USED TO, UH, BACK WHEN DRIVE THE CAR, THE WHEN COMES OUT FROM THE DRIVEWAY, IT NEEDS TO BE COME BACK AGAIN FOR THE DRIVEWAY IN THE GARAGE.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE, UH, THE LAST TIME THE, UH, WE GET SOME REQUIRE ADVICE, WE CAN MERGE THE, UH, DRIVEWAYS FOR THE, INSTEAD OF TWO.
WE CAN MAKE THE ONE IT MEANS TOTAL FOUR DRIVEWAY.
I MEAN, UH, SO IF YOU MAKE IT TOGETHER, IT SHOULD BE THE LONG AND THE VERY WHITE, UH, DRIVEWAY.
SO, UH, ALL THE PEOPLES, UH, PREFER TO EASILY TO BUY THIS KIND OF FRONT LOADER, UH, PLACE.
OF COURSE, I HAVE A CHILDREN ALSO, I DON'T WANNA DAMAGE OUR NEIGHBOR OR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT, UH, NOW THE, OR FOR NOW IT'S I THINK 10 TO 15, UH, FRONT LOADER HOMES THAT THERE AND ONE OF THE FRONT LOADER HOMES JUST BEHIND THE EXIT, THE GATE FOR THE, THE SCHOOL.
IF IT'S NOT DANGEROUS, IT'S MINE IS WILL PROB ABSOLUTELY NOT DANGEROUS.
BUT IF IT'S DAN, UH, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH, IT'S MY SECOND LANGUAGE.
MAYBE I CANNOT EXPLAIN VERY WELL.
I, I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC REASON, BUT ALL THE PEOPLES IS, UH, PREFERRING THE FRONT LOADING AT MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT'S, I BELIEVE I CAN EASILY TO SELL AND EASY TO BUILD.
SO THAT'S WHY I PREFER TO GO WITH THIS, TO BE HONEST.
YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF HAD ME UNTIL, UM, THE LAST PART THERE.
SO THE REASON IS JUST BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES IT.
AND I DO THINK WHILE YOU DO MEET CHAPTER 42, AND I AM A BIG PROPONENT AND THESE GUYS WILL TELL YOU THAT I FIGHT ALL THE TIME, THAT WHEN WE MEET CHAPTER 42 THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL, THAT WE, IT'S A SHALL APPROVE AND WE MOVE FOR IT.
AND I VERY RARELY SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST, UH, SHALL APPROVES.
THIS ONE UPSETS ME A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU'RE BASING IT ON JUST, I HAVE THE RIGHT, EVERYBODY ELSE DOES IT.
BUT YET THEY KEEP TELLING YOU THAT IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE FOR CHILDREN.
AND THEY PROVIDED A LAYOUT FOR YOU THAT SHOWED YOU THAT YOU HAVE MORE BILLABLE SPACE WITH A SHARED DRIVEWAY.
AND, AND THE THING ABOUT BACKING UP INTO A SHARED DRIVEWAY KIND OF DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
YOU HAVE TO BACK UP NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE BACKING UP INTO CHILDREN YOU'RE GONNA BE BACKING UP INTO A SHARED DRIVEWAY.
SO WHILE I CAN'T TELL YOU YOU CAN'T DO THIS, THIS ONE DOES UPSET ME, AND I'M A DEVELOPER AND I DON'T GET UPSET.
AND I WOULD ASK YOU, EVEN IF YOU GET APPROVAL TODAY, YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.
THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE YOU ARE AT A T INTERSECTION WHERE ALL THE KIDS CROSS THE STREET.
AND SO IF IT WORKS, I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST NOT BECAUSE YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT FROM YOUR HEART AND FROM THE, THE GOODNESS AND SAFETY POSITION OF OUR KIDS TO RECONSIDER IT.
IF I BELIEVE I WILL REALLY, UH, SAFETY, UH, UH, UH, SAFETY REASON, BECAUSE JUST MY NEXT DOOR WILL BE THE SAME.
SO IF, LET ME SAY, LET ME MAKE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ONE, THE OTHER ONE IS ALSO THE SAME SAFETY REASON.
BUT, BUT IF, IF SOMETHING IS DONE, WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR WHETHER IT'S WRONG, JUST BECAUSE IT'S DONE DOESN'T MEAN IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S MY COMMENT.
AS AN ENGINEER, WE SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
AND ACTUALLY, I TALK, I'M GONNA TALK TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AFTER THIS APPROVAL, WE MIGHT COME BACK AND REVISE THE SCHEME INTERNALLY.
SO IT'S, IT'S A, UH, APPROVED ITEM, BUT WE WILL ACTUALLY GIVE A CONSIDERATION AFTER, AFTER THE MEETING.
I'LL JUST WAIT ONE MORE TIME FOR, YOU KNOW, I, I'M IN REAL ESTATE.
IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THAT STREET SCAPE OF JUST DRIVEWAY, YOU KNOW, GARAGE DOOR VERSUS A BEAUTIFUL FRONT ELEVATION LIKE IN SAN FRANCISCO WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE AN ALLEY, THAT ELEVATION IS FAR MORE DESIRABLE WITH A CUTE FRONT YARD.
YOU COULD HAVE A LITTLE FENCED AREA THERE.
I'M TELLING YOU, YOU COULD MAKE THEM SO ATTRACTIVE COMPARED TO THE TYPICAL TWO STORY GARAGE DRIVEWAY THING THAT'S
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ALL OVER SUBURBIA, THAT PEOPLE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, HATE.I'M THINKING THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE BEAUTIFUL HOMES IN A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S VERY WALKABLE, ADJACENT TO A SCHOOL THAT WOULD BE MORE SAFETY WITH ONLY ONE CURB CUT OFF OF JANICE.
THERE'S A WIN FOR YOU THAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE, LIKE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO, TO SEE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING REALLY AMAZING.
I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD THEN GET BEHIND YOU SO MUCH MORE.
UM, DO WE, I KNOW WE HAVE TO HAVE REASONS ON SHALL APPROVE ITEMS TO DENY, BUT IF SAFETY COULD BE ONE OF THE REASONS OR NO, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO POINT TO SOMETHING SPECIFIC IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT SAYS YOU WOULD GIVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO DENY AN UNSAFE DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE THAT.
MAYBE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT.
ANY, UM, LET, AND I, WE ARE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO, UH, LET ME GO AHEAD AND JUST SAY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE CHAT? I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE LISTENING WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 31 SHEPHERD OAKS HEARING? NO RESPONSE.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED NOW.
WE'LL RETURN, UH, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS GET STUCK, UH, IN, IN WHAT IS SHALL APPROVE AND THE RULES ON THE BOOK.
UH, EVEN OUR ATTORNEY SAYING THAT THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC ABOUT IT, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE AND SOMEHOW TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN UPDATE OUR, OUR RULES SO THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY CLEAR, YOU KNOW, HOW WE DEAL WITH SUCH SITUATIONS THAT, UH, ARE IN THE LONG RUN, NOT GOOD AND UNSAFE, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE RULES ON THE BOOKS.
AND, AND I KNOW WE'RE, UM, WORKING ON THIS IN, UM, THE LIVABLE SPACES COMMITTEE, BUT IT'S ALSO THE SAFETY ISSUE, NOT JUST THE FRONT LOADER ISSUE.
AND SO IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE IT NEEDS TO PROBABLY BE ELEVATED AROUND SCHOOLS, SOME SET OF GUIDELINES, UM, BECAUSE THIS JUST, THIS IS WRONG.
UM, BUT THERE ARE THE TWO, I MEAN, I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO GET BLOGGED DOWN AND LONGER WITH THE BIGGER ISSUE OF SHARED, OF SHARED DRIVES VERSUS FRONT LOADERS.
AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ZERO IN ON BEFORE WE COME WITH A FINAL PRODUCT.
I, I AM HEARTENED BY SOME INDICATION FROM THE APPLICANTS THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS AND WE REALLY WOULD URGE THEM, PLEASE, PLEASE, TO DO THAT.
UM, ANY, FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? JUST FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANT TO ADD THE TERM.
IT'S NOT JUST SAFETY, IT'S IT'S LIFE SAFETY.
AS YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S JUST SAY WHAT IT IS.
IT'S NOT, UM, A MINOR ISSUE WE'RE CONSIDERING, BUT IT'S CLEARLY CHILDREN.
WE ARE PUTTING UP ALL TYPE OF SIGNALS AND FLAGS THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE, WELL, IT'S NOT UNIQUE.
IT HAPPENS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT WE REALLY NEED TO RESPECT THIS LIFE'S SAFETY ISSUE.
AND I, I ALSO AGREE THAT IT KIND OF SUCKS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY LEGAL, UH, RECOURSE HERE.
UM, I HAVE AN ETHICAL REASON AND I'M JUST LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW I WILL NOT VOTE FOR IT TO COME GET THE POLICE.
SO I KNOW WE CAN'T MAKE A MOTION TO DENY, BUT I'M JUST LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW TO CONSIDER, UM, I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT AND IF THAT INCLINE GIVES ANYBODY ELSE THE SAME MOTIVATION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? WELL, WE KNOW THIS USUALLY COMES DOWN TO ME MAKING THE, THE TOUGH ONE.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE IT ANYMORE THAN YOU GUYS DO.
I DON'T HAVE AS HARSH A FEELINGS OVER FRONT LOADERS AS, AS EVERYONE ELSE DOES 'CAUSE THERE'S PROS AND CONS FOR EVERYTHING.
BUT I DO HAVE A, AN ISSUE WITH SAFETY FOR CHILDREN.
SO THIS ONE IS TOUGH, BUT IT DOES MEET OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS AND THEIR BYLAW.
WE ROSE OUR RIGHT HAND AND SAID WE WOULD FOLLOW THE, THE LAW WITH CHAPTER 42.
AND SO I'M GONNA MAKE THAT MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
COMMISSIONER GARZA IS THE SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER ROSENBERG IS OPPOSED MADAM CHAIR.I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THEY CAN, UM, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT, SO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A FINAL PLAT SO THEY CAN COME BACK WITH A FINAL PLAT WITH THE SHARED DRIVEWAY DESIGN KEEPING THE SAME NUMBER OF LOTS.
OKAY, WELL, AND IF THAT HAPPENS, WE LET US KNOW.
YES, WE WILL
UM, WITH THAT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 1 32 TIMBERMAN ESTATES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, SUSTAIN MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM 1 32 IS TIMBERMAN ESTATES.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS WEST ALONG HILLIS STREET, SOUTH OF TWELL ROAD AND WEST OF MESA DRIVE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RE PLAT IS TO CREATE TWO NARROW FRONT LOADING SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIS REQUESTS FOR THIS ITEM AND THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
THE PLAT WAS DEFERRED LAST CYCLE PER APPLICANT REQUESTS AS THEY CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS FOR THE PROPERTY.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THE PLA WILL NOT VIOLATE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLA OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY, BUT MUST ADDRESS REQUIRED DEED RESTRICTED EASEMENTS CAUSING A POTENTIAL NEED FOR THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDS A SECOND DEFERRAL PER APPLICANT REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE LAYOUTS FOR THE PROPERTY.
MADAM CHAIR FOR PLEASE THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE UH, PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 32 TIMMERMAN ESTATES IS CONTINUED.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON TIMMERMAN ESTATES? 1 32.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER MOTION BALDWIN BALDWIN.
IS THERE A SECOND JONES? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE SUCH IS LOCATED IN HOUSTON CITY LIMIT EAST OF ELLA BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF GULF BANK ROAD.
THE PURPOSE OF THE WE PLA IS TO CREATE TWO SINGLE FAMILY LOT.
NO VARIANCES ARE BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
THE APPLICANT DID NOT MEET THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT AND REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THE PROPOSED VPL WILL VIOLATE APPLICABLE DATE RESTRICTION THAT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN ADVANCE.
AND THAT RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE THE PLOT.
MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU PLEASE AT THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 33 WINTER BAY ESTATES IS OPEN.
UM, I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 33 WINTER BAY HEARING? NO RESPONSE.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE BECAUSE OF NOTICE IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO DISAPPROVE? MODEST? IS THERE A SECOND CLARK? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 1 34.
ITEM 1 34 IS WYNNWOOD PARTIAL RELA NUMBER FIVE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS EAST ALONG WYCLIFFE DRIVE WEST OF BRIMORE ROAD AND NORTH OF INTERSTATE 10.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REPL IS TO CREATE SEVEN NARROW FRONT LOADING SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTS WITH THIS ITEM AND THE PLAT HAS PLAT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL IS STILL UNDERGOING AND ADDITIONAL TIME IS REQUIRED TO ALLOW FOR PROPER REVIEW.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCE COMMENTS WITH THE APPLICATION.
SA RECOMMENDATIONS DEFER THE PLAT FOR TWO WEEKS TO ALLOW FOR CONTINUED LEGAL REVIEW.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 34 REN WOOD PARTIAL REPL NUMBER FIVE IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON 1 34 REN WOOD HEARING? NO RESPONSE.
UH, THE PUB, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER.
IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER THE ITEM AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION SIGLER THERE SECOND JONES.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 1 35.
ITEM 1 35 IS YOAKUM GARDENS PARTIAL REPL NUMBER THREE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS SOUTHWEST OF THE INTER, UM, SORRY, WEST ALONG MARNE STREET, UH, NORTH OF LEY BOULEVARD AND EAST OF BINGLE ROAD.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RE PLAT IS TO CREATE EIGHT SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND TWO PARKING RESERVES ALONG A SHARED DRIVEWAY.
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WITH THIS ITEM AND THE PLAT HAS MET IN ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THE PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE RECORDED PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS APPLICATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CBC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 35 YOAKUM GARDENS IS OPEN.
DOES ANYONE WANNA SPEAK ON 1 35 HEARING NO RESPONSE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? VICTOR SECOND CLARK.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION? OH, THE MOTION CARRIES.
[d. Subdivision Plats with Variance Requests (Aracely Rodriguez, Geoff Butler, and Devin Crittle)]
I'M SORRY.ITEM 1 36 INDIAN SPRINGS SECTION ONE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN HOUSTON, ETJ IN HARRIS COUNTY WEST OF LAKE HOUSTON PARKWAY.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO NOT EXTEND OR TERMINATE SERVER MOON, A LOCAL STREET WITH THE CUL-DE-SAC.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE PLA CHAPTER 42 STANDARDS AND TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE REVISED INFORMATION BY NEW WEDNESDAY.
STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN ADVANCE AND THEY CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? UM, I HAVE NO ONE WHO'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE CHAT IF THERE'S NO ONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 36? UM, AND THERE IS NO DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER BALDWIN BALDWIN? IS THERE A SECOND CLARK? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM 1 37, ITEM 1 37 LEFT COURT.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN HOUSTON CITY LIMIT IN ACRES HOME NORTH OF TEWELL ROAD AND EAST OF TC JESTER BOULEVARD.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TRUE VARIANCES.
ONE IS TO NOT PROVIDE A NORTH SOUTH PUBLISHED STREET AND SECOND TO ALLOW A 15 FOOT BORDERLINE ALONG MAY TWELL ROAD THAT IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REPL TWO LOT OUT OF HIGHLAND HEIGHT SUBDIVISION TO DEVELOP 46 LOTS WITH SHARED DRIVEWAY AND TYPE TWO PA HIGHLAND HEIGHT SUBDIVISION WAS PLOTTED IN THE 1920S WITH MOSTLY ONE ACRE NARROW LOT AND FEW NORTH SOUTH PUBLISHED STREET.
MOST OF THE STREET IN THIS AREA ARE OPEN DISH WITH NARROW PAVEMENT AND ROADSIDE DISHES ON BOTH SIDES.
FROM 2016, MORE THAN 2,400 NEW SINGLE FAMILY LOTS HAD BEEN CREATED IN THIS AREA.
SO THIS WITH DEVELOPMENT TREND IS CREATING SERIOUS MOBILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY CHALLENGES.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO DEVELOP A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO IMPROVE THE STREET NETWORK AND TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GROW SUSTAINABLY WITHOUT THE MOBILITY.
STUDY PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN GRANTING VARIANCES TO NOT PROVIDE NORTH SOUTH RIGHT OF WAY OR PUBLIC STREET.
UM, A 50 BECAUSE THE 50 FOOT RIGHT OF AWAY WILL MAKE A 70 FEET WIDE LOT ON DEVELOP.
HOWEVER, THE MAJOR INSTRUCTED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT A MOBILITY STUDY TO ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
EARLY THIS YEAR, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORK AND A CONSULTANT TO CONDUCT A MOBILITY STUDY IN THIS AREA.
THREE PUBLIC MEETING HAD BEEN HELD TO DISCUSS THE MOBILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY CHALLENGES WITH THE RESIDENT AND RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE BASED ON THE PUBLIC INPUT DURING THE MEETING LAST NIGHT, THE RESIDENT VOICED THEIR STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED NORTH SOUTH STREET NETWORK.
SO ACCORDING TO THE MOBILITY STUDY, THE NORTH SOUTH STREET THROUGH THE SITE IS NEEDED TO IMPROVE MOBILITY, ACCESSIBILITY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE AREA.
SO THE DISTANCE ALONG THE BLOCK IS ABOUT 3060 FEET.
SO A NORTH SOUTH PUBLIC STREET IS NEEDED THROUGH THE PROPERTY TO ADDRESS MINIMUM INTERSECTION FACING REQUIREMENT.
THE GRANTING OF THE VARI TO NOT
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PROVIDE A STREET WILL BE DETRIMENTAL AND WILL NOT MEET AND PRESERVE THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE.ALL TRAFFIC WILL BE ADDED TO THE P STREET.
IT WILL HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND IT WILL NOT PROVIDE AN ADEQUATE ASSET TO EMERGENCY SERVICES.
FAILING TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE STAFF COORDINATED WITH THE APPLICANT AND SUGGESTED TO DEDICATE A 40 P RIDE PUBLIC STREET INSTEAD OF 50.
THE 40 P RIDE RIGHT OF WAY WILL STILL BE ADEQUATE TO ACCOMMODATE TWO VEHICLE LANES, LANDSCAPE AND SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDE.
THIS CROSS SECTION HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY PUBLIC WORK BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HAS 180 FEET FRONTAGE ALONG TWELL AND PAUL QUEEN DEDICATING THE 40 FEET RIGHT AWAY WOULD NOT DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT'S RIGHT TO DEVELOP THE SITE.
SO THE APPLICANT CLAIM HARDSHIP IS SELF-IMPOSED.
THE APPLICANT ALSO REQUESTED A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A 15 FOOT BUILDER LINE ALONG TEWELL ROAD.
AT THIS TIME, IT IS PREMATURE TO EVALUATE THIS VARIANT REQUEST BECAUSE THE PROPOSED DESIGN WILL BE GREATLY AFFECTED, BUT THE REQUIRED NORTH SOUTH PUBLIC STREET, UM, THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WAS ASKED TO IDENTIFY THE PROPOSED WATER METER EASEMENT, AND IT IS LOCATED AT THE NORTH AND RIGHT CORNER OF THE BOUNDARY.
HOWEVER, IF THIS LOCATION OF THE WATER METER EASEMENT DOESN'T MEET THE IDM REQUIREMENT, THE APPLICANT WILL STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THE WATER METER EASEMENT BY SEPARATE INSTRUMENT AT PERMITTING STAGE.
SO OVERALL, THE PUBLIC STREET IS NEEDED TO IMPROVE MOBILITY, ACCESSIBILITY, AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND FOR THESE REASONS, THAT RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENY THE REQUEST OF VARIANCES AND DISAPPROVED THE PLA THAT DID RECEIVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT EVENT.
AND THEY, AND THAT PERSON IS AGAINST THE VAN REQUEST AND IS IN SUPPORT OF HAVING THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTION AT THIS LOCATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. RODRIGUEZ? WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS.
IF NOT, UM, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS, UH, THE APPLICANT.
MS. RODRIGUEZ, CAN YOU SCOOT OVER A LITTLE BIT SO SHE CAN OKAY.
UM, I HAD A COUPLE OF EXHIBITS THAT I'M GONNA BE REFERRING TO, SO I KNOW YOU HAD ISSUES, SO IF YOU NEED 'EM THEN I CAN SHOW THEM TO YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS MARY VIRE WITH THE INNER FIELD GROUP.
EXHIBIT ONE THAT I HAVE WAS RECENTLY PRESENTED TO YOU SHOWING A POTENTIAL THROUGH LEXINGTON COURT, UH, PARTY STREET THROUGH LEXINGTON COURT.
DRAWINGS SHOW CARVER STREET EXTENDED SOUTH IN THE LOCATION WHERE A TRACT HAS NOT BEEN SUBDIVIDED.
THIS LOCATION DOES NOT APPEAR TO CONFLICT WITH ALREADY APPROVED RE PLATS CURRENTLY SHOWN ON PLA TRACKER AND ALLOW THE CITY TIME TO UPDATE CONSOLIDATED TRANSPORTATION, UH, MAPS TO ALERT ANY FUTURE DEVELOPERS.
MS. AL, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU A SECOND? CAN WE GO AHEAD AND GET HER EXHIBIT UP? UHHUH
HIGHLY SWITCHABLE SWITCHED TO THE CAMERA.
THAT WAS THE MAP THAT I SAW THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU AND I WANTED TO SHOW YOU.
WE KIND OF DID A ROUGH DIAGRAM OF WHAT IS SHOWN ON PLA TRACKER AND WHERE CARVER IS AND WHAT THE LOCATION, IF THEY WERE TO COME STRAIGHT DOWN THE EXHIBIT THAT WAS, UH, PRESENTED TO YOU BEFORE.
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS, UH, WHERE WE SHOW THAT LOCATION WHERE THAT STREET CAN JUST COME AND CONNECT TO WESTWELL.
UM, CONTINUING, IF YOU DON'T MIND, GO AHEAD.
UH, CHAPTER 42 1 28 STATES THAT EACH LOCAL STREET, UH, THAT INTERSECTS WITH A STREET THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF SUB SUBSECTION B BEING AT LEAST 1400 FEET.
LEXINGTON COURT IS APPROXIMATELY 1,095 LINEAR FEET FROM BERTELLI LIEN, UH, CHAPTER 42.
AND MAYBE LEGAL CAN HELP US WITH THIS.
IN, IN ESSENCE, STATES PROPERTIES TO BE DEVELOPED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES THAT DISCOURAGES THROUGH TRAFFIC WHILE MAINTAINING ADEQUATE ASSET ACCESS AND TRAFFIC MOVEMENT FOR CONVENIENCE CIRCULATION WITHIN A SUBDIVISION, WHICH INCLUDES EMERGENCY RESPONDERS.
LEXINGTON COURT PROVIDES AN ACCESS, UM, PATTERN THAT DISTRIBUTES TRAFFIC EVENLY ALMOST BETWEEN PAUL QUINN AND WEST TIDWELL
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TIME.MAY I CONTINUE? MAY I COME? OH YEAH.
LEXINGTON PROVIDES A SEVEN FOOT SIDEWALK, FOUR FOOT PEDESTRIAN BUFFER, UH, THREE INCH CALIBER TREES FOR AN OVERALL 15 FOOT PEDESTRIAN REALM.
IT'S ALSO DEDICATING, UH, TO WHITEN PAUL QUINN TO THE NORTH.
WE HAVE HEARD CONCERNS FROM NEIGHBOR, UH, NEIGHBORS OVER THE YEARS THAT THROUGH STREETS INCREASE THE POSSIBILITY FOR CRIME.
NEIGHBORS HAVE, UM, ALSO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE.
A THROUGH STREET WILL TAKE AWAY FROM LEXINGTON COURT'S GREEN SPACE.
LEXINGTON COURT WILL SUBMIT PLANS TO THE CITY OF HOUSTON, A PERMIT DEPARTMENT THAT WILL MEET REQUIREMENTS FOR DRAINAGE DETENTION AND UTILITIES.
WE REQUEST THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER THE CONS OF A STREET THAT ENCOURAGES THROUGH TRAFFIC, WHICH WILL NOT CREATE A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT, BUT IT IN TURN CREATES A SIGNIFICANT HARDSHIP FOR AN UNEXPECTED DEVELOPER AND POSSIBLY FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS OF LEXINGTON COURT, UH, TO APPROVE BOTH VARIANCES.
QUESTIONS FOR MS. VIAL? THANK YOU.
UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ALSO REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
IT'S MIKE, UH, KAMI, UH, Q-A-D-D-U-M-I.
I'M WITH THE INTER FIELD GROUP.
UH, GREETINGS TO YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE, UH, COMMISSION.
UH, UH, THE, THE ISSUE ON HAND, I BELIEVE IS THE ACCESS BETWEEN TWO STREETS.
ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SU OF THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS TC JESTER, WHICH IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, AND THEN ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS A LOCAL STREET, PAUL QUINN.
NOW THE, UH, THE WHAT THE PLANNING, WHAT THE, WHAT THE, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS TALKING ABOUT IS EXTENDING A STREET BETWEEN THESE TWO, BE BETWEEN THESE TWO STREETS THAT ARE EAST AND WEST, EXTENDING A STREET THAT IS NORTH SOUTH.
AND WE REALLY QUESTION THE, THE, UH, THE VI THE, THE REASON AS TO WHY THAT SHOULD BE PROVIDED IN VIEW, IN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT WE DO NOT REALLY THINK THAT TRAFFIC CREATE, THAT, THAT THAT ACCESS BETWEEN THESE TWO STREETS IS NECESSARY FOR ANYBODY IN THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION IN THE OVERALL AREA.
WE HAVE A SUBDIVISION SOUTH OF THE TC JESTER, WHICH HAS A STREET WITHIN THAT 3000 FOOT DISTANCE THAT PLANNING COMMISSION IS TALKING ABOUT.
UM, AND, UM, AND, AND THE, THAT SUBDIVISION BASICALLY, OR THAT STREET CONNECTS TO A TC JESTER.
SO ANYBODY FROM THAT SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH CAN ACCESS ANYWHERE TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST USING, UH, A TC JESTER WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING TO GO UP TO PAUL WIND, WHICH IS A LOCAL STREET.
THE DEVELOPMENTS BETWEEN TC JESTER AND, UH, OR, OR THE, THE TRACKS AND THE DEVELOPMENTS BETWEEN TC JESTER AND PAUL QUINN.
WE HAVE TC JESTER TO THE EAST WEST TIDWELL.
UM, THE, UH, THEY BOTH, THEY FRONT ON BOTH STREETS AND THE TRAFFIC FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE, FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL AS THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, PRETTY MUCH HAS SPLIT TRAFFIC.
HALF OF IT GOES TO PUT TO, TO, TO, UH, TO, UH, UH, WEST TED.
WELL, AND HALF OF IT GOES TO PAUL QUINN.
THEREFORE, WE DON'T REALLY SEE ANY COMPELLING REASON THAT THERE SHOULD BE A CONNECTOR BETWEEN THESE STREET, BETWEEN THESE STREETS.
ON THE CONTRARY, IT'S CREATING A, A, A BASICALLY A VERY NARROW STREET.
THE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS SUGGESTING A 40 FOOT RIGHTAWAY, WHICH IS AN NARROW STREET, AND IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH ESSENTIALLY A RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT ON BOTH SIDES.
SO WE DON'T REALLY THINK THAT THE INTRODUCTION OF THAT ELEMENT IN THAT AREA IS NECESSARY.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA REALLY HELP THE OVERALL TRAFFIC BECAUSE THE, THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC PATTERN DOES NOT REALLY REQUIRE, UH, DESPERATELY THAT CONNECTION.
LET ME ASK IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN, IN FULL DISCLOSURE.
SO
I GUESS, MIKE, MY THING IS THOSE TRACKS OF LANDS ON PAUL QUINN ARE GOING TO BE MULTIPLE UNITS.
THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE UNITS, AND AS THE STAFF MENTIONED, YOU HAVE 2,400 OVER WHATEVER TIME PERIOD.
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TRACKS ON PAUL QUINN, AS THEY DEVELOP, ARE GONNA BE 17 MORE TOWNHOUSES ON EACH OF THOSE PARTICULAR TRACKS.I VOTED AGAINST SOME OF THESE DEALS BECAUSE YOU PENALIZE THE PROPERTY OWNER, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE SMALL, AS I MENTIONED NOW, NOW THAT HE HAS A LARGER TRACK OF LAND, WE TEND TO GRAB IT FROM THE LARGER TRACKS OF LAND THAN WE DO THE SMALLER TRACK LANDS, WHICH MAY BE AN UNFAIR BURDEN.
UH, I'M JUST, JUST POINTING THESE THINGS OUT OR WHATEVER.
BUT I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE REASON WE THINK WE NEED IT, AS PAUL QUINN DEVELOPS INTO MORE TRACKS, THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET SOUTH TO TIDWELL AND THEN SOUTH TO ROSLYN OR SOUTH TO SOMEPLACE ELSE.
SO THAT MIGHT BE THE COMPELLING REASON WHY WE WOULD NEED THE STREET.
THE 40 FEET WIDE IS THE TYPICAL HEIGHT STREET OR WHATEVER THAT'S THE SAME AS HARVARD OR OXFORD OR ANY OF THESE OTHER SORT OF POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE.
IT'S A TYPICAL STREET THAT WE HAVE.
BUT I DO THINK COMMISSIONER CAN LONG BE HEARD.
I I'M WHAT? NO, I I JUST THINK IT COULD BE AN UNFAIR BURDEN.
DO, DID YOU CALCULATE BETWEEN THE, THE AMOUNT OF WIDE AWAY THAT YOU'RE DEDICATING TO PAUL QUINN AND THE NEW STREET, IS THAT, HOW MUCH LAND WOULD THAT BE? WHAT KIND OF TAKING WOULD IT BE? 17%.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANNA DO.
AND, AND THE, AND THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN MARCH OF 2020, AND THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO HINT, UH, UH, UH, ANYWHERE IN ANY, IN ANY PUBLISHED RECORD SHOWING THAT A PROPOSED STREET WAS GOING TO BE, UH, SUGGESTED IN THAT AREA.
AND, AND, AND WHAT MARY SUGGESTED EARLIER IS THAT WE THINK THERE IS A, A BETTER ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS THE STREET, UH, WHICH IS CARVER.
UH, THE CARVER NOW IS NORTH OF MANSFIELD, WHICH IS THE NEXT STREET NORTH OF, UH, PAUL QUINN.
SO YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT, UH, WEST, UH, UH, WEST TIDWELL, YOU, PAUL QUINN, AND THEN GOT MANSFIELD.
THE, THE CARVER CAN CONNECT ALL THESE THREE, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT IT WOULD BE ABOUT MAYBE, I THINK 3, 4, 500 FEET, UH, EAST OF OUR SUBDIVISION.
WE'LL ASK STAFF TO RESPOND TO THAT THEN.
AND IF SOMEONE CAN SHOW US WHERE CARVER IS, THIS SIDE CAN'T FIGURE THAT OUT.
YEAH, LET US, LET US LET STAFF DO THAT.
AND I'M GONNA GO AHEAD THEN, UM, AND CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER.
WHO IS BILL? UM, IS IT UPAC? WHO IS THE DEVELOPER? DID I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY? SORRY IF I DIDN'T.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS BILL AK AND I AM THE DEVELOPER FOR THE PROJECT BEING PRESENTED TODAY.
AND I'M PRESENTING MYSELF BEFORE YOU TO, UH, REQUEST THAT YOU STRONGLY CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS PLA APPLICATION.
THE PUBLIC STREET PLANNING ONCE WILL HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON MY PROJECT.
THIS IS NOT MY FIRST PROJECT IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON, AND I AM INTENT TO CONTINUE BUILDING IN THE CITY.
HOWEVER, I NEED YOU TO WORK WITH ME ON THIS MAJOR ISSUE.
AS YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY CHANGES, CHANGES THAT THE DEVELOPER MUST ABSORB.
AND I AM PLAN MY PROJECTS VERY CAREFULLY.
I UNDERSTAND THE CITY HAS CERTAIN RULES IN THE PLACE, IN PLACE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
THERE IS A GREAT RISK AND TIME THAT GOES INTO PLANNING AND NEW PROJECT.
AS A DEVELOPER, I WANT TO ALSO CREATE BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAN BE ENJOYED BY FUTURE RESIDENTS.
I AM FINE WITH CONTINUOUS CHANGE BY BUILDING DESIGN, BUT WE NEED THE CITY TO PROVIDE MORE NOTICE ONE PROPOSING TO ADD, TO ADD TREATS.
I UNDERSTAND A REVISED MAP WAS RECENTLY PRESENTED AT A PLANNING COMMISSION AND IS BEING CONSIDERED NOW AFFECTS MY PROJECT.
I PURCHASED THE LAND IN MARCH, 2022 AS A BUYER OUTSIDE WHAT IS LISTED IN MY TITLE COM COMMITMENT BY LAW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I COULD PLAN FOR A STREET THAT THE CITY IS NOW CONSIDERING PLANNING HAS BEEN PRESENTED WITH AN ALTERNATIVE TO CONSIDER TO PUT A TRUE STREET IN OTHER LOCATION.
CONSIDERING THAT LOCATION COULD POSSIBLE GIVE THE CITY TIME TO NOTIFY THAT PROPERTY OWNER TIME, I REQUEST THAT PLEASE APPROVE THIS VARIANCE REQUEST.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. C**K? THANK YOU.
OKAY, WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER.
JUST WANNA MAKE A SIMPLE COMMENT.
UM, THE CITY DOES BUILD STREETS, SO WE DEPEND ON THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO DO THAT.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE I KNOW HAVE GONE TO THE PLANNING AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENTS AND BEGGED THEM FOR A
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40 FOOT WIDE STREET.SO FOR, FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO APPROVE, THAT IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES AND HOW MANY PROJECTS THIS WOULD'VE BENEFITED IN MY OPINION.
SO, UM, YOU MAY, HOWEVER THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD TODAY, UM, I STILL ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS.
UM, THE NEXT SPEAKER I THINK IS VIRTUAL.
CHRIS BECK, O-C-H-T-E-R-B-E-C-K.
THANK YOU MR. MAY AT SOME POINT.
UH, ACTUALLY, UH, WHEN I DECIDED TO PURCHASE THIS LAND, UH, I DID SOME RESEARCH AND AROUND FIVE YEARS AGO, DEVELOPMENT STARTED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND AFTER THAT I DID SOME SEARCH.
IS THERE ANY OTHER, UH, ISSUE OR POTENTIAL ISSUE? AND AS I MENTIONED DURING THE TITLE COMMITMENT CLOSING PROCESS, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.
NOW WITH THIS, UH, UH, ISSUE, I AM REALLY GETTING VERY FINANCIALLY HARD TIME BECAUSE OF THE UNEXPECTED THINGS WOULD BE REALLY VERY GREAT IF SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT STARTING IN ANY COMMUNITY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPERS TO KEEP THEM SAFE.
ANY KIND OF RECOMMENDATION OR SOMETHING IF YOU PUT ON THE MAP, WE CAN CONSIDER ACCORDING TO WITH THIS POTENTIAL RISK.
MR. BECK, ARE YOU THERE? I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE WRONG ITEM.
SA MR. SANDIN, ARE YOU THERE? MR. HELLO? OKAY.
MR. SANDIN DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE PRESENT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
AND IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 1 37, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, CONSIDER AMONGST OURSELVES.
BUT, UM, MS. RODRIGUEZ, CAN YOU SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE CARVER STREET ISSUE WHERE THAT IS? IT'S IF YOU, IF YOU PULL UP THE STUDY MAP, YOU CAN SEE CARVER ON THE STUDY MAP.
I THINK JOHN HAS ALSO DRAWN IT ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU ALL TO SEE.
CARVER STREET IS A, A LOCAL IS A COLLECTIVE STREET ON A MAJOR THOROUGH OF AIR FREEWAY PLAN.
UH, FURTHER NORTH AND THE RIGHT OF AIR DOESN'T EXIST, UM, FOR FIVE BLOCKS.
AND, UM, AS CHAPTER 42 CLEARLY INDICATES THAT THE, WE DON'T ENCOURAGE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC.
SO WE ARE FIGURING OUT THROUGH THE MOBILITY STUDY WHAT THE STAFF HAS DONE, MEETING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOING OUT AND FIGURING OUT IS WHERE CAN WE PUT THE STREETS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE CUT THROUGH.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE SOME CHANCES TO GET THE STREET.
THIS AREA HAS BEEN CHALLENGED IN HOW AND WHERE A STREET COULD BE PLACED.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, CARA, IF YOU, JOHN, IF YOU'LL REMOVE THAT FOR A SECOND, THERE IS NO RIGHT OF A UNDER THAT BLUE LINE THAT JOHN HAS DRAWN.
SO NOW JOHN, IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO THE UH, MOBILITY STUDY EXHIBIT, THAT IS WHERE WE EVALUATED THAT.
WE EVALUATED EXTENDING CARVER.
HOWEVER, THE WAYS WHERE THE LAND IS EITHER COMBINED OR THERE ARE OTHER SUB STREETS, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT LOOKED INTO IT AND THEN CREATED THAT MAP.
I JUST ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY ONE POINT THAT WITHOUT THE MOBILITY STUDY, PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE CHAPTER 42 ALREADY STATES THAT A STREET IS REQUIRED WITHIN 1400 FEET OF ANY STREET INTERSECTION.
SO THIS BLOCK, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BLOCK IS ABOUT 3,400.
I MAY BE WRONG ON THE EXACT DIMENSIONS, BUT IT'S AROUND 3000 FEET.
SO A STREET IS REQUIRED THAT IS PUBLISHED IN THE ORDINANCE.
SO IT IS NOT JUST THAT MOBILITY PLAN IS REQUIRING, THE STREET MOBILITY PLAN IS NOT REQUIRING, THE STREET MOBILITY PLAN IS GUIDING US WHERE A STREET COULD HAPPEN.
SO I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW, UH, THE STANCE ON THAT.
AND IF I CAN RESPOND, I MEAN, YEAH, CLEARLY IF THERE WAS NO MOBILITY PLAN, THERE'D STILL BE A CHAPTER 42 REQUIREMENT FOR A STREET THROUGH THIS, THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I DO APPLAUD THE DEPARTMENT FOR GOING TO THE TROUBLE TO DEVELOP THE MOBILITY PLAN IN AN AREA WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM.
AND MAN, IN THE DAYS OF DISASTER, HURRICANES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS, MOBILITY AND ACCESS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT WHERE WE'RE BUILDING DENSER COMMUNITIES.
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THIS IS IMPORTANT AND IT'S SURE BETTER TO DO IT BASED ON A PLAN IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE GET THERE, THEN TRY TO PIECEMEAL IT.IT DID CREATE SOME CONFUSION NOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF THE NATURE OF TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING BETTER.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, BUT I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE HAD SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THE MOBILITY PLAN.
UM, BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT THE ISSUE.
THE ISSUE HERE IS CHAPTER 42 RIGHT NOW.
THIS NEEDS A VARIANCE IN ORDER TO BE APPROVED.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF CAN ON THAT BALBOA, DOES IT REALLY GO, DOES IT EXIST OR IS IT JUST RIGHT OF WAY? IS THERE REALLY A STREET THERE TO THE LEFT? IS THAT THE FIRST CUT THROUGH ALL THE WAY TO MANSFIELD TO THE LEFT OF THE TRACK? ALBOA? YEAH, I THINK THE FULLY SOLID LINE, THE RIGHT OF FACE THERE, BALBOA BALBOA DOES EXIST.
BALBOA DOES EXIST AND IT'S PAVED.
AND IS IT 40 FEET WIDE? NO, THE STREETS HERE ARE 50 FEET WIDE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. MAAR? OKAY.
UM, WELL WITH THAT, WE UM, ARE LOOKING AT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS TO DENY THE VARIANCE AND DISAPPROVE THE PLAT.
CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO APPROVE THE PLAT WITH THE 40 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY WITH THE DEDICATION WHERE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND HAVE MORE EXPENSE AND ALL THAT.
IS THAT AN OPTION OR DENIAL IS OUR ONLY OP ACCEPTANCE OR DENIAL IS OUR ONLY OPTION.
IF THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO DO 44 RIGHT AWAY, UM, THEN THAT WOULD BE A NEW VARIANT REQUEST.
SO WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK ANYWAY.
ANY DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION? NO, I'M SORRY.
IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, UM, THEN I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
IS THERE A SECOND? ALL ALLMAN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
COMMISSIONER JONES AND COMMISSIONER BALDWIN.
BUT THE MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION CARRIES.
OKAY, THAT WILL TAKE US TO ITEM 1 38 MANSFIELD LIFE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ALONG MANSFIELD STREET, BETWEEN WHEATLEY STREET AND SEABROOK STREET AND THE ACRES HOME AREA JUST EAST OF THE PREVIOUS PRESENTED PLAT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO EXCEED LOCAL INTERSECTION SPACING ALONG MANSFIELD STREET.
BY NOT PROVIDING A NORTH SOUTH STREET STAFF IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A 30 SINGLE FAMILY LOT PRIVATE STREET DEVELOPMENT ALONG MANSFIELD STREET.
THE PROPERTY IS A REPL OF TWO LOTS FROM THE HIGHLAND HEIGHTS ANNEX SUBDIVISION PLATTED IN 1920.
THE CURRENT INTERSECTION SPACING ALONG MANSFIELD STREET IS ROUGHLY 4,200 FEET BETWEEN WHEATLEY STREET AND SEABROOK STREET.
AT THIS DISTANCE, THREE NORTH SOUTH STREETS ARE REQUIRED.
CURRENTLY THERE'S AN EXISTING STU ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY OF THE BLOCK ON, EXCUSE ME, CURRENTLY THERE'S AN EXISTING STUB STREET ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY CALLED PHILLIPS STREET.
CALLED PHILIP STREET MEASURING FROM PHILIP STREET EAST TOWARDS WHEATLEY.
THIS DISTANCE EXCEEDS 2,600 FEET, WHICH IS ENOUGH FOR A MAJOR FAIR FARE.
AND THIS IS A LOCAL STREET CONSIDERING THE LOCATION OF PHILIP STREET.
THE PLAT IS NOW IN THE CENTER OF THE BLOCK AND IS IN A PRIME LOCATION TO, TO PROVIDE A STREET CONNECTION.
THE PLAT HAS 150 FEET OF FRONTAGE ALONG MANSFIELD STREET AND IS ROUGHLY 550 FEET DEEP.
STAFFS BELIEVES THERE ROOM, THERE'S ROOM TO PROVIDE A 40 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY AND STILL HAVE REASONABLE USE OF THE REMAINING 110 FEET.
ALSO, THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH ALSO OWNS TWO ADJACENT TRACKS THAT CAN BE REDEVELOPED TO MAKE THE FINAL CONNECTION TO PAUL QUINN STREET, I MYSELF, ALONG WITH MEMBERS OF THE A ACRES HOME MOBILITY STUDY, HELD A THIRD MEETING IN THE, IN THE AKER HOME MULTI-SERVICE FACILITY CENTER.
THERE WE DISCUSSED RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADDRESS MOBILITY, MOBILITY CHALLENGES IN THE AREA AND HELP PROVIDE SOLUTIONS WITH THE COORDINATION OF RESIDENTS IN THE ACRE HOME AREA.
WE'VE WORKED ON THE MAP TO HELP IDENTIFY LOCATIONS OF POTENTIAL BIKEWAYS RIGHT
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OF WAY, IMPROVEMENTS, SIDEWALKS AND STREET CONNECTIONS.SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE DISCUSSED WAS LEXINGTON COURT, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED BY ARACELLI.
AND THIS PROJECT THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, LIKE MANY OTHERS IN THE AREA, DEVELOPERS ARE SUBDIVIDING THE ONE ACRE TRACKS AND CREATING 20 TO 30 SINGLE FAMILY UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.
THIS TREND CAN HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, VEHI, VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, AND A COMMUNITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE.
OVERALL, THE GROUP WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE MAP AND THE EXHIBITS THAT IDENTIFIED THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
THE SUBJECT SITE FALLS WITHIN AN AREA IDENTIFIED FOR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND STAFF HAS SUGGESTED A PARTIAL DEDICATION OF THE ROADWAY IN LIEU OF PROVIDING THE FULL 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT IDENTIFIED A HARDSHIP AS TO WHY THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY CANNOT BE DEDICATED AS PRESENTED STAFF'S JUSTIFICATION, JUSTIFICATION FOR NOT SUPPORTING THE VARIANCE INCLUDES THE EXCESSIVE BLOCK LENGTH ALONG MANSFIELD STREET.
THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD STILL HAVE REASONABLE USE AFTER THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS ALSO OWN MULTIPLE TRACKS, WHICH INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD OF REDEVELOPMENT AND THE MOBILITY STUDY.
AND FINALLY, THE MOBILITY STUDY HAS ALSO IDENTIFIED THIS PLATTED AREA FOR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENY THE REQUESTED VARIANCE AND DISAPPROVE THE PLAT.
UH, STAFF WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER OFFICE HAS RECEIVED, UH, NUMEROUS COMMENTS, UH, EXPRESSING CONCERNS OVER THIS PROJECT.
AND, UH, STAFF HAS ALSO RECEIVED ADVANCED COMMENTS, NOT IN SUPPORT AS WELL.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, MADAM CHAIR.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CRIDDLE? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN? I'M, I'M JUST STUDYING THIS ISSUE LOT.
IS THERE IN THE ORDINANCE? ANYTHING ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE LAND? A SECOND.
HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THERE'S A 75 FOOT WIDE TRACK SOUTH OF THERE, WE WOULDN'T WANT 60 FOOT OF RIGHT OF AWAY OF HIS 75 FOOT TRACK.
BUT IS THERE A, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS A PERCENTAGE IS GOOD? I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I VOTED AGAINST THE LAST ONE.
I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ASK OUR LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE AND I'LL DEFER TO STAFF.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC IN THE ORDINANCE, NOR WOULD THERE BE WHAT STATE LAW REQUIRES.
AND I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I ALMOST BROUGHT THIS UP ON THE LAST ITEM.
UM, THE, YOU KNOW, ANY EXACTION OR REQUEST FOR DEDICATION OF RIGHT OF WAY HAS TO BE PROPORTIONAL TO THE IMPACT THAT IS GOING TO BE PUT ON THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO NO, WE CAN'T GO WANT THE WHOLE A HUNDRED FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY FROM A SMALLER TRACK.
THAT WOULD BE DISPROPORTIONATE, BUT THAT WOULD BE DISPROPORTIONATE.
THE CITY ENGINEER IS CHARGED WITH MAKING THOSE DETERMINATIONS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
SO AS THEY, THEIR DEPARTMENT EVALUATES PLATS OSTENSIBLY THAT IS HAPPENING.
IF AN, IF AN EXACTION LIKE THAT, AND I THINK ON THE LAST REQUEST TOO, FOR THE DEDICATION OF LAND FOR PAUL QUINN WAS NOT DISPROPORTIONATE IN, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD TO THE, TO THE IMPACT THAT 46 LOTS WERE GONNA PUT ON.
I DIDN'T COUNT THIS ONE, BUT, UM, YOU, YOU NEED TO, TO BEAR THAT IN MIND.
SO, NO, IT'S NOT IN OUR CODE, BUT IT'S IN, IT IS IN STATE LAW.
IT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE AND THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS VERY CAREFUL AND AWARE OF.
AND I THINK SOME OF STAFF IN PARTICULAR CAN TELL YOU I'VE HARPED ON THAT MANY TIMES.
SO THEN BACK TO THIS ONE VERSUS THE 28 FEET, IS THERE A CALCULATION OF WHAT THE 40 FOOT WOULD BE COMPARED TO THE 28 FEET? BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY GIVEN UP A FAIR AMOUNT OF ROAD, I MEAN, WAY, SO THAT'S 12 MORE FEET OUT OF 150 FEET, RIGHT? JUST ROUGHLY.
UM, IT'D BE 60 40 FEET OUT OF ONE 50 IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL ACTUALLY RE OR HE OR SHE WOULD REDESIGN IF THE, IF THEY DID MOVE FORWARD WITH PROVIDING THE DEDICATION, THERE'S A A HIGH CHANCE THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO REDESIGN AND IT'S NOT 100% SURE THAT THEY'LL KEEP THAT, THAT PRIVATE STREET.
IF THEY DO HAVE TO PROVIDE A, A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK.
IF WE COULD ASK THAT QUESTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. CRIDDLE? OKAY, THEN I WOULD CALL ELIZABETH GARCIA WHO IS HERE AND IT'S G-A-R-C-I-A OR THE CLOSED CAPTION.
PLEASE SWITCH TO THE OVERHEAD CAMERA.
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OKAY, GO AHEAD MS. GARCIA.UH, MY NAME'S ELIZABETH AND I'M HERE, UH, ON BEHALF OF, UH, PROSPERITY HOMES.
IT MIGHT TAKE MORE THAN TWO MINUTES, SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.
UM, THE AREA WHERE THE PROPOSED PLAT IS LOCATED IS SURROUNDED BY TWO MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS, WHEATLEY STREET AND WEST TIDWELL ROAD.
THERE ARE ALSO TWO COLLECTOR STREETS, SABRA STREET AND DESOTO STREET.
THESE STREETS CREATE A LOOP SYSTEM IN THE AREA THAT PROVIDES ADEQUATE VEHICLE TRAFFIC, CIRCULATION, AND GOOD STREET CONNECTIVITY IN THIS AREA.
THE DISTANCE FROM WHEATLEY TO STREET TO CBRA STREET IS APPROXIMATELY 4,200 FEET.
TRAFFIC CIRCULATION ALONG MANSFIELD STREET AND PAUL QUINN STREET IS DIRECTED EITHER TO WHEATLEY STREET OR TO CBRA STREET ALREADY.
UH, A STREET CONNECTION BETWEEN MANSFIELD AND PAUL QUIN WILL RETURN VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TO EITHER WHITLEY OR CBRA STREET AGAIN.
FURTHERMORE, IF THE GOAL IS TO CREATE CONNECTIONS TO OTHER STREETS NORTH AND SOUTH, AT THE POINT THE MOST EFFECTIVE CONNECTIONS ARE MARKED HERE IN GREEN AND PINK.
IF YOU SEE, UM, HERE, YOU, YOU SEE A GREEN UC AND GREEN, THE EXISTING DEDICATED STREETS, WHICH COULD SERVE AS POSSIBLE NORTH AND SOUTH CONNECTOR STREET SERVING.
THE INTENT AND GENERAL PURPOSE OF CHAPTER 42 ALSO MARKED ARE THE POSSIBLE CONNECTOR STREETS AND TO CONSIDER THESE WOULD MAKE THAT POSSIBLE FLOW FROM WEST TIDWELL THROUGH PAUL QUINN ALL THE WAY UP TO MANSFIELD.
OTHER SMALLER POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS SHOWN ARE TWO CONNECTIONS FROM PAUL QUINN TO MANSFIELD.
TWO POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS FROM MANSFIELD TO DESOTO.
WE HAVE REVIEWED THE WHOLE AREA AROUND OUR SITE TO TRY AND CREATE A CLEAR VISUAL TOOL FOR YOU TODAY.
THIS PLOT OF LAND WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT OPTION IF WE HAD A STREET TO STREET CONNECTION.
IT'S JUST A ONE, A ONE WAY IN AND A ONE WAY OUT TIME.
CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND WRAP UP PLEASE? OKAY.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS SIMILAR TO OTHERS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN RECORDED.
THERE ARE ALREADY SIX PROJECTS WITH PRIVATE STREETS DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECORDED ON THE SAME BLOCK.
THEREFORE PROPOSED PLAT IS LOCATED TO CONTINUE REQUESTING THIS MAY OVERSATURATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH TOO MANY DEAD END STREETS.
AND WE ALSO ON THE SITE ADJACENT TO WEST PROPOSED PLAT, COULD BE GOOD LOCATION FOR THE NORTH AND SOUTH CONNECTION.
AND I'LL END HERE JUST BY SHOWING THE LAST ONE.
WE THINK THIS WOULD BE A BETTER PROPOSAL INSTEAD OF OURS BECAUSE OURS IS SMALLER AND IT'S NOT GONNA CONNECT NORTH AND SOUTH TO ANYBODY.
IT'S JUST GONNA REROUTE TRAFFIC BACK TO THE WEST OR TO THE EAST.
SO BECAUSE THERE IS ALREADY EXISTING, UH, PRE-ESTABLISHED STREETS, WE JUST BELIEVE YOU SHOULD CONTINUE THOSE CONNECTIONS AND ALLOW US TO CONTINUE OUR SMALLER PROJECT.
AND LET ME SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS.
UM, SO WE WILL RETURN, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENY THE VARIANCE AND DISAPPROVE THE PLAT OR DID YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, GO BACK TO THE OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WE'LL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THE MEETING.
GET HOPE YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.
UM, OKAY, SO QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, SO ON THAT LAST OPTION OF TYING INTO SOME OF THE EXISTING, YOU KNOW, SUBSTITUTES THERE, WHAT IS THE, UM, UM, CONSIDERATIONS ON THAT? JOHN? CAN YOU, UH, SHOW A SLIDE THAT, UH, SHOWS A AERIAL, EITHER AERIAL VIEW OR THE, UM, STREET NETWORK MM-HMM
UH, SHOW THIS SLIDE WITH THE POTENTIAL, UH, CONNECTIONS.
UH, CAN YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHICH, UM, WHICH STUFF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN REFERRING TO, UM, THE LAST PROPOSAL BY THE APPLICANT? UM, TYING INTO, I CAN'T SAY SO PHILIP, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PHILLIPS? IT'S PROBABLY HARD TO SEE WHATEVER, AND THEN WE CAME DOWN AND KIND OF TIED IN.
SO YEAH, SO THE STREETS DON'T, AS WE'RE GETTING THE DEDICATION, UH, THE STREETS DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE ONE CLEAN DEDICATION FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, UH, BECAUSE WE GET THE, GET THE
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PLATS, UH, SPORADICALLY.WE'RE PRETTY MUCH GETTING THE DEDICATION WHEN WE CAN.
AND, UH, WE DID LOOK INTO THIS IF THERE WAS GONNA BE A, A OFFSET ISSUE, UH, SO THERE'S A LOCATION THEY CAN PUT IT THAT DOESN'T CREATE A OFFSET ISSUE.
BUT, UH, JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, IT AS TO GET TO DEDICATION, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXACTLY FLUSH WITH THE NORTHERN, UH, BLOCK FACE.
AND I THINK, UM, I GUESS I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT TO APPLICANTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU IS, AND I, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE, UM, CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, CURRENT ADEQUATE CIRCULATION, ALL THAT.
UM, BUT THE COMMISSION HAS TO THINK ABOUT 5, 10, 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, RIGHT? AND SO WE DON'T, I, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THINGS CURRENTLY ARE ADEQUATE.
UM, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING TODAY ON THE PREVIOUS ONE.
ON THIS ONE, IT'S LIKE, WHAT IS IT GONNA LOOK LIKE 10 YEARS FROM NOW, RIGHT? MM-HMM
AND, UH, JUST TO ADD TO TO THAT, WE, IN OUR ANALYSIS WE DID, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING PHILIP STREET WOULD BE EXTENDED, UH, THERE'S STILL EXCESSIVE SPACING BETWEEN THAT, THAT PHILIP STREET STUB AND WHEATLEY.
UH, THAT'S STILL AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT, UM, EVEN CONSIDERING THAT STUB STREET TO BE EXTENDED.
SO, UM, A, A FEW THINGS WE DID CONSIDER WITH THAT.
AND COMMISSIONER HEZ, UH, IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN PULL THAT EXHIBIT? UM, THIS PREVIOUS SPEAKER HAD UP WITH ALL THE STUB SPEED.
IT WAS WHAT THE UH, I DON'T THINK SO.
APPLICANT HAD OH, OH, OH HT VH TWO V PLEASE SWITCH BACK TO THE OVERHEAD.
CAN I SPEAK UP? WAIT, IF, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, WE CAN BRING HER BACK.
UM, I THINK WHAT YOU, I DON'T THINK YOUR MIC'S ON.
SO, SO BACK TO THE APPLICANT'S QUESTION, RIGHT? THE STREETS IN GREEN AND YOU MENTIONED IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CONTINUOUS, RIGHT? MM-HMM
AS LONG AS THERE IS A PATH NORTH, SOUTH.
SO THERE ARE THREE STREETS NORTH OF, UM, WHAT STREET IS THAT? MANSFIELD.
AND THERE, THERE ARE A COUPLE THREE SOUTH OF THAT.
SO THE ONE, THE THREE NORTH OF MANSFIELD.
COULD YOU JUST REPEAT WHY? UH, NO.
UM, SO TIDWELL, RIGHT? UH, FROM TIDWELL TO MANSFIELD, UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING GOING UP, UM, CONTINUING FROM EY MM-HMM
AND THEN DOING A JOG, RIGHT? SO BASICALLY SAYING, HEY, PUT THE BURDEN ON SOMEBODY ELSE.
UM, WHAT WAS YOUR ARGUMENT AGAINST THAT OPTION? UH, AS WE SPEAK, WE DON'T HAVE A, A SUBDIVISION PLAT MM-HMM
SUBMITTED FOR THAT, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAT, A ACTIVE PLAT TO DEFINITIVELY SAY IT'S GOING TO BE AT THAT EXACT LOCATION.
AND NO ONE KNOWS WHEN THERE MIGHT BE AN IMPROVEMENT.
WE MAY LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY FOREVER IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T GET IT NOW.
AND CAN I, IF, IF SOMEBODY CAME BACK WITH A PLAT ON A SINGLE PARCEL, THERE WOULD BE NO OPPORTUNITY TO DEMAND THAT BECAUSE OF THE CALCULATION WOULD BE TWO.
AND THAT WAS FACTORED INTO THE MOBILITY, THE, UH, THE EXHIBIT THAT YOU SAW EARLIER THAT WAS FACTORED INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, SO FINDING TRACKS THAT HAVE MULTIPLE OWNERS THAT ARE LARGER WITH A MORE LIKELIHOOD OF REDEVELOPING COMPARED TO A, A MUCH SMALLER, YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP PUSHING IT DOWN.
COMMISSIONER ROSENBERG, UH, MRS. CAN THIS BE DEFERRED? NO.
YEAH, WE MAY, I FEEL, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAVING TO BEAR THIS FULL UNEXPECTED BRUNT, UM, ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS UNKNOWN, THEIR CIVIL ENGINEER COULD HAVE MAYBE LOOKED INTO THIS.
UM, BUT I GUESS THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO FIGURE THIS OUT, OUR BENEF UM, OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO? I KNOW IF WE, IF WE REJECT IT, THEY START THE WHOLE PROCESS OVER AGAIN AND, AND DO ALL OF THAT STUFF, UM, IS THERE ANY THING WE CAN DO TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE TIME, FIGURE THIS OUT? WE CAN'T, IT'S, THIS HAS BEEN DEFERRED TWICE, SO IT'S BEEN FOR US THIRD TIME.
THERE'S REALLY NOT, TO CLARIFY, THIS IS PART OF THE CHAPTER 42 REQUIREMENTS.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING A VARIANCE.
IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS SPRUNG ON THEM.
IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE ABOUT MOBILITY STUDY.
HAVE A ROUGHLY A 4,000 FOOT BLOCK, ACTUALLY.
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DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER ALLMAN.SO THE, WHERE THEY'RE SHOWING THE DEVIATION, LIKE THE MM-HMM
TO THE, UM, WHAT DIRECTION IS THAT? I'M, YOU'RE ACTUALLY EAST OF, EAST, WEST.
IT'S THE SITE IS EAST OF IT'S WEST, IT'S WEST OF THEIR TRACT.
THAT TRACT LAND IS WIDER THAN THEIR AT TRACT LAND, IS THAT CORRECT? POP? UH, BASED UPON WHAT THE, I DON'T HAVE THAT DIMENSION RIGHT OFF THE, OH, OFF THE, WELL, I GUESS WE CAN SAY YES, I'M LOOKING AT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE CONVERSATION.
WELL, NO, BUT I, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE YEAH.
VISUALLY YES IT IS VISUALLY, VISUALLY IT SEEMS IT APPEARS, YEAH, BUT YOU DON'T, BUT YOU, YOU'RE NOT SURE.
UM, SO THAT TO ME WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION.
SO COMMISSIONER BALDWIN, NOT TO HARP ON THIS, THESE ROADS THAT GO NOWHERE, THE LIKELIHOOD IS THAT YOU WILL NEVER GET ANYTHING SOUTH OF THIS, RIGHT.
WITH THOSE SMALL LITTLE TRACKS OF LAND.
I MEAN, MAYBE SOMEONE CONSOLIDATES FOUR OF THEM.
I MEAN, THE LIKELIHOOD IS THAT THEY ARE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED.
WE REALLY PROBABLY NEED TO KNOW THAT.
WELL, THE TWO DIRECTLY SOUTH HAVE AJ HAVE A COMMON OWNERSHIP.
THE TWO DIRECTLY SOUTH, UH, DOES HAVE COMMON OWNERSHIP.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT, THAT A LOT OF WHAT THIS STUDY IS LOOKING IS INTERNAL CIRCULATION.
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE FROM ONE SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU LIVE ON MANSFIELD AND YOUR FRIEND LIVES ON PAUL QUINN OR YOUR KID NEEDS TO GO GET, YOU KNOW, PLAY WITH A FRIEND ON, UM, DESOTO IS, HOW DO YOU GET, YOU KNOW, IN IMPROVE INTERNAL CIRCULATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? RIGHT NOW? YOU, YOU, YOU'VE GOTTA GO ALMOST A MILE TO GET AROUND.
SO, SO PART OF WHY YOU SEE, AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT RIGHT HERE, BUT THE, THE PROPOSAL, THE PROPOSED CONNECTIONS IN THE STUDY ARE REALLY JUST LOOKING AT INTERNAL NEIGHBORHOOD CIRCULATION.
WHERE IN A LOT OF OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WE'VE GOT GRID STREETS.
LIKE IN THE HEIGHTS OR MONTROSE WHERE YOU CAN JUST GET AROUND EASILY.
BUT IN THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST DEVELOPED DIFFERENTLY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT NOW.
IT'S SOMEBODY, IT'S GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE.
WE THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS GONE TO DEAL WITH STAFF.
CAN HCV SHARE TEAM SHARED A TEAMS? SORRY ABOUT THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO WE HAD A, A, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DID A WORKSHOP FOR THE COMMISSION.
SOME OF YOU WEREN'T, WEREN'T HERE THEN, BUT THERE WAS A, I'LL NEVER FORGET THIS VERY COMPELLING, UH, PRESENTATION.
TOTALLY DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ABOUT THE GALLERIA AND HOW THE GALLERIA, YOU KNOW, HAD, WE'D ABANDONED STREETS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE SPENDING, YOU KNOW, THE POWERS THAT BE IN THE GALLERIA AREA SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON MOBILITY FOR THAT AREA BECAUSE IT LACKS A GRID.
AND IT'S, AGAIN, AS, AS COMMISSIONER MAR SAID, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT IT IS TODAY, IT'S ABOUT WHAT IT IS, FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS.
AND THIS IS, THIS AREA IS ABOUT TO, YOU KNOW, BE DEVELOPED.
SO, UH, AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.
ANY FOR COMMISSIONER ALLMAN? UM, YEAH, MY COMMENT THAT I MADE PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THIS, THE TRACK TO THE EAST OF, IF OUR TRACK, UM, AND HOW SEEMINGLY IT WAS WIDER, BUT THEN ALSO TO THE SOUTH IS THE CONSIDERATION THAT, THAT THOSE TWO THAT WENT DOWN TO THE SOUTH IS, IS MORE APPROPRIATE THAN, UM, WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING ON THEIR EXHIBIT.
SO IF, IF WE HAD A PLAT IN FOR BOTH YEAH.
OF THESE SIMUL SIMULTANEOUSLY, WE, WE'D HAD A, WE'D HAVE A LITTLE MORE WIGGLE ROOM TO CONSIDER.
UM, BUT SINCE THIS IS, THIS IS THE PLOT THAT WE YEAH, WE DO HAVE, UM, TO ADDRESS INTERSECTION SPACE AND, AND THE TWO TRACKS TO THE SOUTH, AS YOU SAID, ARE IN ONE COMMON OWNERSHIP.
AND SO THAT PROVIDES YES, MA'AM.
UM, SO THE, THE TWO TRACKS, THE, THE, THE PLOT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ONE OWNERSHIP, THE TWO, THE TWO TRACKS TO THE SOUTH ARE A DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP, DIFFERENT, BUT TWO, THEY OWN TWO PIECES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AGAIN IS TO DENY THE REQUESTED VARIANCE AND DISAPPROVE THE PLAT.
UM, IS, DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSIONS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? VICTOR? IS THERE A SECOND? MAD? ALL THOSE IN
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FAVOR SAY AYE.OPPOSED A COMMISSIONER BALDWIN VOTES? NO, BUT THE MOTION CARRIES.
UH, THAT WILL TAKE US TO ITEM 1 39.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF HOUSTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM 1 39 IS MORTON 180 TRACK GENERAL PLAN.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE WALLER COUNTY ETJ, BETWEEN CLAY AND MORTON ROADS WEST OF PITTS.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A GENERAL PLAN OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG PUBLIC STREETS AND IS MAKING TWO REQUESTS.
ONE, A VARIANCE TO EXCEED INTERSECTION SPACING ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
AND TWO, A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO EXCEED INTERSECTION SPACING ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DEFERRAL FOR FURTHER STUDYING AND REVIEW OF THE ABUTTING STREET SYSTEM.
WE'VE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED WRITTEN COMMENT IN THIS ITEM.
AND THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
I AM SORRY I WAS DISTRACTED THERE FOR A MOMENT.
DID THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? IT DID.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? OKAY.
AND THIS IS IN WALLER COUNTY, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH.
I DON'T HAVE ANYONE, UM, WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE CHAT.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER.
IS THERE, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER MOTION CLARK SECOND JONES.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS.
[f. Reconsiderations of Requirement (Geoff Butler)]
WE GO TO ITEM ONE 40 UNDER RECONSIDERATION OF REQUIREMENTS, DEVON SHEAR PARK.AND MR. BUTLER, DID YOU TALK TO THE, UH, THE LADY WHO WAS STANDING, DID SHE WISH TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING OR I WANT TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING? MA'AM, WHAT WAS JUST, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS THAT? TRYING FIGURE OUT.
NO, IT'S NOT GONNA BE HEARD ON TEAMS. OKAY.
WE'RE, YES, IT WAS DISAPPROVED.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T MISSING SOMETHING.
ITEM ONE 40 IS DEVONSHIRE PARK.
THIS ITEM HAS BEEN DEFERRED AT THE PREVIOUS TWO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HARRIS COUNTY ETJ, SOUTH OF LUTA AND NORTH OF CYPRESSWOOD.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SUBDIVISION OF SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ON PUBLIC STREETS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING RECONSIDERATION OF THE REQUIREMENT, UH, SO THEY COULD EXCEED INTERSECTION SPACING STANDARDS BY NOT EXTENDING CANTERBURY WAY THROUGH THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY STAFF IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HARRIS COUNTY ETJ, AND IS SURROUNDED BY AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
THESE SUBDIVISIONS WERE RECORDED WITH SUB STREETS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT TRACT, WHICH ARE REQUIRED TO BE EXTENDED.
TO COMPLETE A CONTIGUOUS STREET SEGMENT, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A VARIANCE TO TERMINATE THE SOUTHERN PORTION WITHOUT A CUL-DE-SAC.
THIS WOULD RESULT IN MORE CIRCUITOUS ROUTE AND ADDED CONGESTION AS SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC WOULD BE DIVERTED NORTH.
THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY HARRIS COUNTY MUD NUMBER 1 0 4, AND THE APPLICANT IS PURSUING ANNEXATION.
STAFF CONTACTED THE MUD DURING THE DEFERRAL PERIOD WHO ASSERTS THAT THEY WISH TO SEE THE VARIANCE GRANTED TO REDUCE TRAFFIC AND SPEEDING GENERATED FROM THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
HOWEVER, STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST WOULD MAKE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS WORSE AS RESIDENTS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION WOULD HAVE A LONGER ROUTE TO GET TO POINT SOUTH, REQUIRING THAT BOTH CONNECTIONS BE MADE WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE DIRECT FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND REDUCED CONGESTION.
HARRIS COUNTY HAS EXPRESSED NO OBJECTION, OBJECTION TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDS DENYING THE VARIANCE BUT APPROVING THE PLAT PER THE CPC ONE ONE FORM CONDITIONS.
STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO ADVANCE WRITTEN COMMENT IN THIS ITEM.
AND THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
QUESTIONS FROM MR. BUTLER? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 40.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE CHAT.
UM, IF NO ONE WISHES TO SPEAK ON IT, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN TO DENY THE VARIANCE AND APPROVE THE PLAT.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? IS THERE A MOTION THEN FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
BASED UPON THE FACT THAT HARRIS COUNTY HAD NO OBJECTION TO THE RECOMMENDATION, SECOND ALLMAN, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS TO DENY THE VARIANCE, BUT APPROVE THE PLAT IS, IS APPROVED.
ITEM 1 41 IS HIGHLAND MEADOWS MOBILE HOME PARK, SECTION ONE.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HARRIS COUNTY ETJ, NORTH OF ALDINE MALE ROUTE IN SOUTH OF LAUDER.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING RECONSIDERATION OF REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW FOR A CUL-DE-SAC WITH A 50 FOOT RADIUS AS OPPOSED TO THE REQUIRED 60.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DEFERRAL PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
WE'VE RECEIVED NO ADVANCE WRITTEN COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
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OKAY.ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BUTLER? STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 41? NO.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER.
IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION SIGLER? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
THIS ITEM WAS DEFERRED AT THE PREVIOUS TWO MEETINGS.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN HOUSTON'S CORPORATE LIMIT ALONG REYNA STREET, EAST OF BENGAL, NORTH OF PINE MOUNT.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SUBDIVISION OF 50 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG TYPE TWO PAES.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING RECONSIDERATION OF THE REQUIREMENT TO DEDICATE FIVE FEET OF WIDENING TO REYNA STREET, A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
STAFF IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ALONG REYNA STREET, WEST OF THE FOREST WEST SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
REYNA IS A PUBLIC STREET WITH AN OPEN DITCH ASPHALT ROADWAY MEASURING BETWEEN APPROXIMATELY 12 AND 20 FEET WIDE.
THE SITE IS OPPOSITE OF MULTI-USE, ATHLETIC COMPLEX THAT ALSO USES RAYNA FOR ACCESS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO WIDEN RENA BY FIVE FEET IN ORDER TO MEET THE STANDARD FOR PUBLIC STREETS THAT INCLUDE USES OTHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
DURING THE DEFERRAL PERIOD, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A SITE PLAN AND TWO ELEVATION SAMPLES.
THEY HAVE CLARIFIED THAT THEY INTEND TO SITUATE THE UNITS FACING RENA STREET, USE A SEMI OPAQUE FENCE AND INCLUDE WALKUP ACCESS.
THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK AS OPPOSED TO THE REQUIRED FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK AND WILL MAKE SPOT REPAIRS AND WIDENING TO THE EXISTING ROADWAY BETWEEN THEIR DRIVEWAY AND THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
WHILE THIS CLARIFICATION IS HELPFUL IN UNDERSTANDING THE APPLICANT'S IMPACT, UH, THIS APPLICATION'S IMPACT ON THE PEDESTRIAN ON THE PUBLIC REALM, IT DOES NOT SUPPORT THE ASSERTION THAT THE UNIQUE SITE CONDITIONS JUSTIFY GRANTING THIS REQUEST.
IN ADDITION, THE SITE IS BOUND BY THREE ADDITIONAL 50 FOOT RIGHTS AWAY THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNAPPROVED.
THE APPLICANT HAS CHOSEN TO LIMIT ACCESS TO THE SITE TO RAINA RATHER THAN IMPROVE THESE STREETS.
THIS WOULD DIRECT ALL TRAFFIC TORENO, WHICH ALSO PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE NEARBY ATHLETIC COMPLEX.
THERE ARE TWO PROPERTIES UNDER COMMON OWNERSHIP WITH APPROVED PLAS THAT COULD BE SERVICED BY ONE OF THESE STREETS.
DALE FEATURES A SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION WITH PINE MOUNT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR SAFE ACCESS AND CIRCULATION STAFF FINDS US A REQUEST TO NOT MEET THE INTENT OF RIGHT OF WAY WIDENING SECTION OF CHAPTER 42 AS IT WOULD DIMINISH AN ALREADY SUBSTANDARD CONDITION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENYING THE VARIANCE BUT APPROVING THE PLAT PER THE CPC ONE ONE FORM CONDITIONS.
STAFF HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS ADVANCED WRITTEN COMMENTS IN THIS ITEM, NOTING TRAFFIC, CIRCULATION AND ACCESS CHALLENGES TO THE SITE.
THE NEAR NORTHWEST MANAGEMENT DISTRICT HAS ALSO EXPRESSED THAT THEY ARE NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST TO THE IMPACT ON ACCESS AND CONNECTIVITY.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS AND I'M LOOKING AT, WE HAVE, I THINK THERE HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 20 OR 30 SPEAKERS WHO AREN'T, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT SPEAKING, BUT WHO REGISTERED THEIR DISAPPROVAL.
UM, UM, AND ALSO FOR ALL THE SPEAKERS, I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHETHER YOU SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, SO YOU'LL HAVE TO BE HONEST.
IF YOU'VE SPOKEN BEFORE, YOU ONLY GET ONE MINUTE.
BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE POLICING THAT TOO CAREFULLY, BUT, SO WE'LL JUST GO HERE.
UM, SO THE FIRST SPEAKER I HAVE IS, UM, I'M CALLING THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP HERE.
I HONESTLY PLAN FOR MY MINUTES WORTH, SO, OKAY.
IN THE LAST MONTH, I'VE OBSERVED THE REVERENCE CITIZENS OF HOUSTON HOLD FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM AKERS HOMES TWO WEEKS AGO, WHICH OF WHICH YOU'VE BEEN SPEAKING WAS SPEAKING FROM REVERENCE.
I'M NOT NAIVE AND FAR FROM CONSERVATIVE.
THERE IS PROGRESS AND PROFIT, BUT I TAKE EXCEPTION WHEN I HEAR THE DEVELOPER STATE THE TRAFFIC.
AND SO SAFETY ON REYNA AND ARBOR VITA IS NOT HIS ISSUE.
THE AESTHETIC INTIMIDATION OF THE NEED TO BUILD HIGHER, TO MITIGATE LOSSES.
I TAKE EXCEPTION THAT HE HAS ASKED FOREST WEST TO PAY HALF THE PRICE FOR THE ESSENTIAL ACCESS BECAUSE DEVELOPERS NEED TO MAKE MONEY.
THERE IS PROGRESS AND PROFIT, BUT NONE OF THE EXPENSE OR THE SAFETY OF THE STABILITY OF EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? GOOD JOB.
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UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JAMES ERN, M-A-T-T-E-R-N.IT'S, IT WOULD, UH, LOWER OUR SUBDIVISION OR TO ADD 50 OR A HUNDRED MORE VEHICLES GOING IN AND OUT OF IT EVERY DAY BECAUSE THEY'D BE FORCED TO TURN ON ARBERY VITA TO GO TO PINE MOUNT, WHICH HAS NO TRAFFIC LIGHT.
AND THE CITY CANNOT PUT A LIGHT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY TOO MANY LIGHTS ON PINE MOUNT.
IT'S BEEN APPROACHED BEFORE, AND WITH PEOPLE HAVING TO MAKE A LEFT ON PINE MOUNT, IT WOULD BACK TO TRAFFIC BACK UP TO ARENA.
SO THE CARS WOULD CUT THROUGH OTHER STREETS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRY TO WORK THEIR WAY OVER TO ANOTHER EXIT.
THERE'S ONLY FOUR EXITS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE'S OVER 600 HOUSES.
PLUS WE SERVICE A BALLPARK, AND BY THEM CUTTING OVER, THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN CUT OVER, THEY'D HAVE TO RUN BY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THE CENTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH UNLOADS AND LOADS CHILDREN ON THE STREET.
I TRIED TO DRIVE THAT WAY MYSELF WHEN THEY COMING BACK FROM THE LOCAL GROCERY RATHER THAN ENTERING MONT.
THE PEOPLE DROP, THEY HAVE A A BUS ROOM TO DROP THEIR KIDS, HALF OF 'EM DROP THEIR KIDS ON THE STREET.
THE KIDS AREN'T READY TO GET OUT.
THEY GOTTA PUT THEIR SHOES ON, THEY GOTTA GET THEIR LUNCH MONEY.
IT WOULD ADD WAY TOO MUCH TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
INTRODUCE ANOTHER A HUNDRED CARS TO RENA STREET OR 50.
ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LEE EDWARDS.
IS LEE EDWARDS HERE? DON'T THINK SO.
AND, UH, SEAN? NO, I'M, I'M HERE.
I JUST WANNA REITERATE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS SAYING.
UH, IF THEY USE RAINA AS THEIR ONLY ENTRANCE AND EXIT, IT IS GONNA INCREASE TRAFFIC IN OUR ALREADY CLOSED OFF SUBDIVISION AND WITH NO LIGHT ON ARBOR BATTALION PINE MOUNT, IT'S ALREADY DANGEROUS TRYING TO CROSS THERE.
I ALMOST HAD A WRECK COMING ACROSS THIS MORNING, AND IT, IT'S JUST, THERE'S NO REASON FOR HIM NOT TO USE LUMBER.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S A FINANCIAL DIFFICULTY FOR HIM, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, NOT US.
AND, UH, THREATENING US WITH PUTTING UP TALLER BUILDINGS IF HE HAS TO DO THE RAINA STREET VARIANCE.
I DON'T LIKE DEVELOPERS THAT THREATEN US.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY NICE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, SINCE 1970.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MS. EDWARDS.
UM, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SEAN JZ.
K-U-B-I-C-K-I, MS. KKI NOT PRESENT.
UH, I'M A LIKE MOST OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN HERE, I'M A RESIDENT OF FOREST WEST.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR A DECADE.
UM, JUST AS A PERSONAL ANECDOTE, I GREW UP IN A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE CITY LIMITS OF HOUSTON, UH, JUST NORTH OF GREENSPOINT MALL BEFORE IT BECAME GUNS POINT.
AND, UH, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP THERE, THERE WAS NO ENTRANCE, UH, FROM GREENS POINT DRIVE.
THERE WAS A SINGLE ENTRANCE AND EXIT THAT WENT ON TO I 45 NORTH WHEN THEY OPENED THE, UH, ENTRANCE FROM GREENS POINT DRIVE, WHICH ALLOWED ACCESS TO THE MALL AND TO OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.
THE TRAFFIC BECAME A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE PEOPLE USED IT A PASS THROUGH TO GET THROUGH TO I 45.
AND AS A RESULT, UH, THE CITY ACTUALLY HAD TO ASSIGN TRAFFIC COPS TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT AREA.
THERE WOULD BE TRAFFIC LINED UP FOR 15, 20 MINUTES.
PEOPLE WERE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING OUT, UH, OF THEIR, OF THEIR HOUSES ALONG THE STREET.
AND ALTHOUGH THIS IS NOT EXACTLY AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON, IT DOES FEEL SIMILAR IN THAT ALREADY ON RAINA, ON DAYS WHEN THERE ARE ARE, UH, BALL GAMES, UH, AT THE BALL FIELD, WHICH HAPPEN IN THE EVENINGS AS WELL AS ON THE WEEKENDS, IT CAN GET PRETTY CROWDED AND PEOPLE DON'T EXACTLY DRIVE SLOW, UH, DOWN RAINA.
AND I FEAR THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.
LOTS OF PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS AND THEIR CHILDREN, AND I WORRY THAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF WITH A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS THAT FORCES EVERYONE DOWN RAINA TO ARBOR
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF SERIOUS TRAFFIC, PARTICULARLY IN THE EVENINGS WHEN THERE ARE, UH, PEOPLE AT THE BALLPARKS.
AND, UH, IT JUST, AND TO REITERATE SOME OF WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, I AM A LITTLE FRUSTRATED WITH THE DEVELOPER WHO BASICALLY SAYS, LISTEN, IT'S GONNA COST US TOO MUCH MONEY, SO WHY
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DON'T YOU GUYS CHIP IN? I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CHIP IN TO FIX A PROBLEM THAT SOMEBODY DIDN'T BUDGET FOR.ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BULKY? UM, OKAY.
THAT IS, THOSE ARE THE, OH, OKAY.
WE'VE GOT SOME SPEAKERS IN THE CHAT.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS SYLVIA REYES.
MS. REYES DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE PRESENT.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SPENCER REDDICK.
WHAT WAS THE FIRST NAME? SPENCER.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN GO RIGHT AHEAD.
UM, I THINK A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE STATED MOST OF MY CONCERNS WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BUT ANOTHER ONE THAT PERHAPS ISN'T NECESSARILY INTERTWINED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS THE ADDITIONAL WATER RUNOFF THAT MIGHT OCCUR IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I BELIEVE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF DETENTION.
AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY ON PROVIDED SITE PLAN, AND I KNOW UNDER UNDERGROUND DETENTION IS, UM, FEASIBLE, BUT, AND I DON'T KNOW THE FINISHED FLOOR AND LIKE ELEVATIONS AND THE GRADES AND SUCH THAT THE SITE PLAN PROPOSES, BUT AN AN ADDITIONAL CONCERN WOULD BE ADDITIONAL WATER RUNOFF FROM THIS AREA THAT HAS A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER INTO VENUS STREET AND THOSE OTHER AREAS.
ARE YOU, WAS THAT, ARE YOU FINISHED? YES, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THAT, UH, THAT, THAT WAS MY ONLY OTHER ADDITIONAL CONCERN.
AND JUST IN RESPONSE TO THAT, THERE, THE PROJECT DOES HAVE TO HAVE DETENTION OR IT'LL BE EVALUATED, BUT THAT HAPPENS, UH, THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UM, IN THE PERMITTING STAGE.
SO IF AND WHEN IT GOT BUILT, THEN THOSE REVIEWS WOULD HAPPEN BY HOUSTON PUBLIC WORKS.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'D SEE ON THE PLAT AT THIS POINT.
UH, THE, WHO'S OUR NEXT SPEAKER? THE FINAL SPEAKER IS TONY ALIGO, A-L-I-G-O.
CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN GO RIGHT AHEAD.
UH, I'M A RESIDENT OF FOREST WEST AS WELL.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE UNDUE, JUST THE ADDED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD HAPPEN ON OUR BRAVADA AND RE NOW WOULD BE REALLY UNACCEPTABLE FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S ALREADY THERE BECAUSE OF THE OAKS DADS CLUB PARK THAT IS APART, NOT EVEN APART, IT'S ADJACENT TO OUR HOA AND, UH, I FIND IT VERY ODD THAT LUMBER DALE, UH, ON THIS MAP HERE IS EVEN SUGGESTED BECAUSE THAT IS COMPLETELY NOT A, A STREET THAT EXISTS AT ALL.
IT MAY BE CUT AWAY IN THE CONCRETE, BUT IT, IT DOESN'T EXIST.
POPPY DOESN'T EXIST EXCEPT AS A PARKING LOT.
UH, AND THE RAINA, WHICH, UH, WHICH ACTUALLY EXISTS JUST BELOW THAT LITTLE SUBDIVISION THERE TO THE WEST OF THE SITE, UH, IT IS ALSO PARTIALLY DEVELOPED.
UM, THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER ACCESS PLACES THAT THE DEVELOPER COULD USE, UH, INSTEAD OF USING OUR COMMUNITY AS THE ONLY ACCESS TO HIS 50 UNITS.
UM, AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE SHOULDN'T BE PLACED THE UNDUE BURDEN OF HAVING TO PAY FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND HIS CUT THROUGHS, UM, AT ALL BE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ASK FOR HIM TO BUY THIS PLOT OR BE THERE.
SO HE NEEDS TO BE THE ONE TO, TO DEVELOP IT, IMPROVE IT.
THANK YOU MR. OLIGO, APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAT.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO, UH, WE MISSED WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 42 PARK AT PINE MOUNT.
THEN WITH THAT, WE WILL TURN TO, UH, DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AS YOU KNOW, IS TO DENY THE REQUESTED VARIANCE.
IF, IF I, IF I MAY, THERE, UM, ONE OF MY, UH, UH, FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, THE, HER NAME IS LENA AND THAT SHE, SHE CONTACTED THE CHAT FOR THIS JUST BEFORE I DID AND, AND ASKING TO SPEAK.
CAN YOU TELL ME HER LAST NAME? UH, LEAH.
LEIA, WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME, PLEASE? KAUFMAN.
IS IT K-A-U-F-M-A-N? UH, TWO FS? CORRECT.
THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD ADD, 'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS IN THE CHAT, IS THAT THERE'S
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A LIBRARY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WOULD, ALL OF THIS TRAFFIC WOULD BE FORCED, UM, AT, TO EXIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO THE LIBRARY.UM, I HAVE A LOT OF SMALL KIDS AND WE WALK TO THE LIBRARY AS DO A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND THIS AREA.
SO AGAIN, FORCING 50 50 HOUSEHOLDS, TRAFFIC RIGHT BY THE LIBRARY WOULD REALLY, I THINK IT WOULD AFFECT SAFETY VERY NEGATIVELY.
SO JUST ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT WASN'T RAISED THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, AND THEN I DID PUT IT IN THE CHAT, BUT ALL OF THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, SINCE THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT BE CONNECTED TO US FROM AN HOA PERSPECTIVE, IT'S, I, I JUST DON'T LIKE THAT THEY WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON US, LIKE ALL OF THEIR TRAFFIC WOULD FLOW THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE AREN'T CONNECTED HO ADMINISTRATIVELY, SO THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD REALLY EVEN WORK TOGETHER.
SO I JUST REALLY STRONGLY AGAINST THE VARIANCE.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, WE'RE, WE'RE BACK TO DISCUSSION.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENY THE VARIANCE BUT APPROVE THE PLOT.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN THAT CASE? MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND, MA? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[Platting Activities g - i]
GH AND I.I, I NEED TO, I NEED TO STEP AWAY FROM THE MEETING.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SECTIONS G AND I AS ONE GROUP.
SECTION G EXTENSIONS OF APPROVAL CONSIST OF ITEMS 1 43 THROUGH 1 49 SECTION H.
NAME CHANGES CONSIST OF ITEM ONE 50 AND SECTION I CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE CONSIST OF ITEMS 1 51 AND 1 52.
THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REQUESTS THE APPROVAL OF ALL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SECTIONS G, H AND I.
THERE ARE NO ITEMS TAKEN OUT OF ORDER PER STAFF AND NO CHANGES IN RECOMMENDATION.
IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL FOR ALL ITEMS IN SECTIONS GH AND I? MOTION CLARK.
IS THERE A SECOND? JONES? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS. SECTION K DEVELOPMENT
[k. Development Plats with Variance Requests(Ramon Jaime-Leon)]
PLOTS WITH VARIANCE REQUESTS.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM ONE FIFTY THREE TEN TWO FIFTY ONE BRIDGELAND LANE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BRIDGELAND LANE AND STANFORD COURT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES, UH, TO ALLOW A REDUCED ZERO BUILDING LINE AS, UM, UH, SORRY, TWO, ALLOW A REDUCED ZERO FOOT BUILDING LINE, UM, OPPOSED TO THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED 10 FOOT BUILDING LINE ALONG STANFORD COURT FOR A NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
TWO, TO NOT TO PROVIDE A RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ALONG BRIDGELAND LANE AND EXISTING, UH, 28 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY STAFF IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUESTED VARIANCE.
THE LOT IS WITHIN THE COMMON AREA.
COURT HOMES, UNRECORDED, PLAID, WESTWAY SECTION ONE WITH NO BUILDING LINES ALONG BRIDGELAND LANE AND STANFORD COURT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
THE, THE PROPOSED NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IS IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS MOST OF THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES ARE LOCATED LESS THAN FIVE FEET FROM STANFORD COURT.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS AFFECTED BY THE WATSON GRINDING AND MANUFACTURING EXPLOSION IN, UH, LAST YEAR, UH, SORRY, 2020.
AND DUE TO, DUE TO THE EXTENSIVE DAMAGE, THE RESIDENTS, THE RESIDENCE RECONSTRUCTION EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE RECONSTRUCTION AFTER CASUALTY.
UNDER CHAPTER 42, THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE SAME LOCATION AS PREVIOUS STRUCTURE.
IN ADDITION, THE RIGHT OF WAY PAVING EXCEEDS THE PAVING REQUIREMENTS FOR LOCAL STREET STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE REQUESTED VARIANCE TO ALLOW A REDUCED BUILDING LINE OF ZERO FOOT ALONG STANFORD
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COURT AND NOT TO DEDICATE RIGHT AWAY ALONG, UM, BRIDGELAND LANE.UM, STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. JAIME LEON? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 53.
UM, SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THEN IS TO APPROVE, IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? CLARK? IS THERE A SECOND? SIGLER? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
YOU OKAY? WELL, DID WE VOTE? YEAH.
WE NEEDED YOU TO SIGN UP WHEN YOU CAME IN, BUT GO RIGHT AHEAD.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME? UM, MY NAME IS JULIANA BATO.
AND I AM THE, WELL, I USED TO BE THE HOMEOWNER BEFORE THE, UM, WATSON EXPLOSION.
UH, SO I, WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS.
UM, FOR THIS, I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THE, UM, LANGUAGE THAT YOU GUYS USE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT, WHEN IT GETS APPROVED OR DENY.
I CAME HERE TODAY JUST TO FIND OUT IF WE ARE FINALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO REBUILD OUR HOME.
IF YOU LET US, WE JUST VOTED TO LET YOU DO THAT.
CAN, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO REBUILD AND I'M REALLY SORRY FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU.
OKAY, SO DID, DID WE ALL SAY I AND WE NOBODY SAID NO.
UH, SO THAT
[II. Establish a public hearing date of November 10, 2022]
NUMERAL TWO, WHICH IS TO ESTABLISH A PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF NOVEMBER 10TH, 2022 FOR THE FOLLOWING.JACKSON HILL GROVE, MARISOL, SECTION FOUR, SOUTHLAND TERRACE, PARTIAL REPL NUMBER TWO, SUN TARA, SECTION 14 PARTIAL REPL NUMBER ONE TOWN LAKE, SECTION 63, PARTIAL REPL NUMBER ONE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO SET? NOVEMBER 10TH.
IS THERE A SECOND? ALLMAN ALLMAN.
UH, ROMAN NUMERAL THREE IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
HE NO LONGER APPEARS TO BE IN THE CHAT.
SO STAN HORTON IS NOT PRESENT.
UH, WITH THAT, UM, WE DO NOT NEED TO ACT ON ROMAN FOUR BECAUSE COMMISSIONER ALLMAN IS WITH US.
AND A MOTION TO ADJOURN WOULD BE IN ORDER.
THANK YOU ALL AND I THINK THE ASTROS ARE AHEAD THREE TO TWO.
I SAY THAT, BUT I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW.