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COMMISSIONERS.[Call to Order]
AND DALTON WILL BE ABSENT TODAY, AND WE MAY HAVE SOME OTHER ABSENCES AS WELL.UM, COMMISSIONER KANE IS PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY VIA MICROSOFT TEAM, SO I'LL ASK HIM.
COMMISSIONER KANE, CAN YOU CONFIRM YOUR PRESENT AND AUDIBLE? I AM PRESENT.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE ELSE JOINING US.
UM, IF YOU'RE HERE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON A SPECIFIC ITEM, YOU CAN FIND THE FINAL AGENDA WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE.
UM, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT ONE OF THESE LITTLE SPEAKER FORMS, WHICH YOU CAN GET FROM MS. GEISER RIGHT HERE, UM, AND RETURN THAT IF YOU PLAN TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION TODAY.
UM, ALL ADVANCE COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED BY THE DEPARTMENT BY NOON YESTERDAY HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE COMMISSIONER'S PACKETS WITH THE FINAL AGENDA.
WE ASK THOSE OF YOU, AS THERESA SAID, WHO ARE CONNECTED BY PHONE OR COMPUTER TO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU KEEP YOUR DEVICE MUTED UNTIL YOU'RE CALLED ON TO SPEAK AND KEEP YOUR CAMERA OFF AS WELL.
UM, THERE'S ONLY ONE ITEM THAT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM TODAY'S AGENDA AND THERE'LL BE NO OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THAT.
WITH THAT, WE GO TO THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT
[Director’s Report]
DIRECTOR MARGARET WALLACE BROWN.MY NAME'S MARGARET WALLACE BROWN AND I'M SECRETARY TO THIS COMMISSION AND DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
UM, I WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT, UM, EVERY YEAR THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT PRESENTS THE, UM, ORDINANCE AT, UM, THE PROFESSIONAL SURVEYORS EDUCATION FOUNDATION, INC.
UM, IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHARE WITH OUR CUSTOMERS THE, UM, IN INFORMATION ABOUT OUR, ABOUT CHAPTER 42 AND SO FORTH.
UM, TO THIS YEAR'S TRAINING IS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 6TH.
THE PROGRAM IS DESIGNED AS A CONTINUING EDUCATION FOR EXPERIENCED PLANNING PROFESSIONALS, OF COURSE, INSTRUCTORS FROM OUR CITY PLANNING STAFF, THE HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEERING OFFICE AND OTHER AGENCIES WILL PRESENT TOPICS CONCERNING PLA BASICS, CURRENT ISSUES, AND ORDINANCE CHANGES.
UM, YOU MAY CONTACT CHRISTIE OR FRANK AT LAND TECH TO REGISTER BY CALLING 7 1 3 8 6 1 7 0 6 8.
I WANNA LET YOU KNOW ABOUT TWO ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
UM, THE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING TO COMPLETE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR ORDINANCE CHANGES RELATED TO SIDEWALKS AND THE LIVABLE PLACES ACTION COMMITTEE.
PLEASE SEE OUR WEBSITE, UM, FOR WAYS TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THOSE TWO ITEMS. ONE OF THE LIVABLE PLACES PIECES IS THE BUFFERING DRAFT ORDINANCE.
WE WILL UPLOAD THE MOST RECENT, THE, THE MOST UPDATED VERSION OF THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR OFFICIAL PUBLIC COMMENT STARTING SEPTEMBER 29TH.
AND WE WILL ALSO PRESENT TO THIS DRAFT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT MEETING.
I REQUEST THAT YOU ALL REVIEW AND PROVIDE COMMENTS THROUGH THE SURVEY AT THAT TIME.
PROPOSED CHANGES INCLUDE GARAGE SCREENING, LIGHTING FIXTURES, DUMPSTER, AND BULK CONTAINER SCREENING, AS WELL AS PROPOSED DIS DISTANCE SEPARATION STANDARDS FOR HIGHRISE AND MID RISES TALLER THAN 65 FEET.
THE, UM, CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED A CONTRACT FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR TO REBUILD OUR PLAT TRACKER SYSTEM, BOTH, UM, PLAT TRACKER AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRACKER.
PLA TRACKER IS APPROXIMATELY NINE YEARS OLD AND, UM, LIMPING ALONG, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE, UM, YOUR ACCESS TO IT WELL INTO THE FUTURE.
WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THIS CONTRACT, UM, REALLY ANY DAY NOW AND EXPECT THAT IT WILL BE ONLINE, UM, WITHIN NINE TO 12 MONTHS.
WE, UM, WE WILL WORK WITH MANY OF YOU TO ACTUALLY TO DESIGN IT AND DESIGN THE INTERFACE FOR YOU, UH, MAKING SURE THAT IT IS BOTH, YOU KNOW, BETTER INTERFACE, FASTER, QUICK, YOU KNOW, EASIER AND, UM, MORE FLEXIBLE FOR YOUR NEEDS.
UM, IN CLOSING, I WANNA WISH OUR CHAIRMAN, MARTY STEIN, A HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND WISH HER A FESTIVE EVENING TONIGHT CHEERING ON THE ASTROS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT MARTY'S BIRTHDAY, YOU CAN CALL THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AT (832) 393-6600, OR YOU COULD CALL THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PLANNER OF THE DAY AT 8 3 2 3 9 3 6 6 2 4.
AGAIN, OUR WEBSITE IS HOUSTON, TEXAS, IS HOUSTON PLANNING.COM.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? UM, THE NEXT ITEM
[Approval of the September 1, 2022 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes]
ON OUR AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 1ST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES, WHICH ARE IN YOUR PACKET.IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOTION TAHIR.
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THE MOTION CARRIES.UM, AND I'M GONNA RECOGNIZE COUNSEL,
[Additional Item]
UH, COUNT, UH, COMMISSIONER TAHIR FOR APPOINT OF PERSON PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.THANK YOU, UH, MARTY AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
UM, UH, IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO HAVE INTERNS, UH, DO ASSIGNMENTS OR PROJECTS FOR ME EVERY SUMMER.
AND THIS YEAR I HAD A WONDERFUL INTERN WHO WENT THROUGH UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON'S HONORS PROGRAM, IS NOW AT UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, AND HE PLANS TO BE AN ATTORNEY AND, UH, HE PICKED THE SUBJECT OF SIDEWALKS AND HE'S DOING VERY THOROUGH RESEARCH.
UM, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT IF WE ALLOW YOUNG PEOPLE TO ATTEND OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS AND THEY GET TO KNOW THE MUNICIPAL ISSUES, UH, THEY WILL TURN OUT TO BE BETTER LEADERS.
AND I TRY TO PICK STUDENTS WHO I THINK YOU WILL SEE IN FUTURE, I'M SURE, AS, AS, AS LEADERS IN THIS CITY AND THIS REGION.
SO IT'S MY GREAT PRIVILEGE TO, UM, UH, INTRODUCE REMAN HASIB.
UH, REMAN HAS COME ALL THE WAY FROM AUSTIN.
HE ACTUALLY TOOK OFF, UH, FROM HIS CLASSES TODAY AND HE GOT HIS SPECIAL PERMISSION TO COME HERE.
REMAN, CAN WE HAVE YOU ON THE PODIUM? YEAH.
JUST COME FORWARD FOR A SECOND.
HELLO? HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.
HELLO, MY NAME IS ROE AND I'M CURRENTLY A THIRD YEAR STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN, STUDYING GOVERNMENT AND PHILOSOPHY.
I WANT TO THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK NOT ONLY IN FRONT OF YOU ALL, BUT TO THE PEOPLE OF HOUSTON.
THE ISSUE AT HAND IS ONE OF GREAT IMPORTANCE, AND IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT WE MAKE THE CORRECT DECISION FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ALL HOUSTONIANS.
I ALSO WANNA THANK THE CITY OF HOUSTON FOR CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF CAN APPROACH PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND INTERN UNDER THEM.
I WANT TO STRESS TO ALL OF THE YOUTH IN HOUSTON THAT YOU CAN MAKE A CHANGE IN YOUR CITY, BUT THAT CHANGE STARTS WITH INITIATIVE.
I DECIDED TO TAKE INITIATIVE WHEN I SAT IN MY FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN JUNE 23RD OF THIS YEAR.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE SIDEWALK FUND MENTIONED IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MEETING SPARKED INTEREST IN ME, AND I WENT TO MR. Z TAHER ASKING IF I COULD WRITE A RESEARCH PAPER ABOUT THE SUBJECT IN THE ASIS INTERN.
I FOCUS MY RESEARCH SPECIFICALLY ON THE SIDEWALK IN LU AND FOCUSED ON THREE GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT WILL SEE GREAT BENEFITS FROM ADMINISTERING THE FEE PEOPLE THAT WALK TO WORK K THROUGH 12 STUDENTS AND THE DISABLED POPULATION OF HOUSTON.
ALTHOUGH I GO ON TO LIST A FEW MINOR SETBACKS THAT MIGHT, MIGHT OCCUR AS A RESULT OF THE IN LIEU FEE, I ULTIMATELY CONCLUDE THAT THE OVERALL BENEFITS OF THE FEE OUTWEIGH THE HARMS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT I WILL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE AS A PUBLIC SPEAKER WHEN THESE AMENDMENTS COME IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
SOMETHING I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO.
THIS WAS A DELIGHTFUL EXPERIENCE RESEARCHING THIS TOPIC, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THIS ISSUE IN THE COMING MONTHS.
WE REALLY, IT, IT'S HEARTENING TO US TO HAVE PEOPLE OF YOUR TALENT, FUTURE LEADERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN URBAN PLANNING, AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POLICY AREA, AND WE, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND THANK COMMISSIONER TAHIR FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH HE, HE HANDLES ON HIS OWN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES.
AS A UT LAW GRAD, I INVITE YOU TO COME WORK FOR US IN THE OFFICE ONCE YOU START THERE.
YOU HAVE A JOB, RIGHT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[Platting Activities A & B]
THAT WE GO TO ROMAN NUMERAL ONE PLATTING ACTIVITY.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SECTIONS A AND B ARE PRESENTED AS ONE GROUP, WHICH INCLUDES CONSENT AND REPLANT ITEMS NOT REQUIRING NOTIFICATION.
SECTIONS A AND B ARE, ARE ITEMS ONE THROUGH ONE 17 SECTION A.
CONSENT ITEMS ARE NUMBERS ONE THROUGH 66 AND SECTION B REPLANT ITEMS ARE NUMBER 67 THROUGH ONE 17.
NO ITEMS NEED TO BE TAKEN OUT OF ORDER AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS MADAM CHAIR, IF THERE ARE NO INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REQUESTS THE APPROVAL OF ALL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSENT AND REPLANT ITEMS NOT REQUIRING NOTIFICATION.
COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS IN SECTIONS A AND B WE NEED TO CONSIDER SEPARATELY? COMMISSIONER SIGLER? UM, YES.
MADAM CHAIR, ITEMS ONE THROUGH 4, 7, 8, 17, 18, 30, 41, 76, 77, AND 83.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO TAKE
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SOMETHING SEPARATELY? UM, IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING OR WITH US TODAY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS? UH, FROM ITEM ONE TO ITEM ONE 17? HEARING NONE, WE'LL PROCEED WITH VOTING ON THE CONSENT ITEMS AND I, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK.COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? HI, MY NAME IS GEORGE FRY.
AND WHAT ITEM ARE YOU SPEAKING ON? UH, ITEM 19 AND 20.
ELLA TIMBER GROVE ARE THE TWO.
LET ME ASK STAFF, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM YOU ON THIS OR NOT? I MIGHT ASK YOU TO WAIT ONE SECOND.
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF LAN, MEMBERS OF PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER, SORRY, 19
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19 IS ELLA GROVE AND 20 IS ELLA TIMBER STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, 19 IS APPROVED, UH, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS LISTED AND 20 IS TO DEFER FOR CHAPTER 42 STANDARDS.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS WAS, UH, A VARIANCE ITEM.
BOTH OF THESE WERE, AND THE PRELIMINARY PLANS WERE APPROVED SOMETIMES IN NOVEMBER BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THESE TWO APPLICATIONS ARE FINAL PLOTS OF THE SAME APPLICATION THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, IN NOVEMBER.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT, THEY'RE PROPOSING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON PRIVATE STREETS AND SHARED DRIVEWAYS.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ONE, UH, OF THE NORTHERN PROJECT IS TO APPROVE BECAUSE IT MEETS ALL CHAPTER 42 REQUIREMENTS.
THE ONE TOWARDS THE SOUTH THAT IS AT, UH, ELLA AND 12TH STREET, UH, IS ELLA TIMBER GROVE.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING DEFERRAL BECAUSE THEY, THE TYPE TWO PAES DON'T MEET THE IDM STANDARDS AND THERE ARE CERTAIN PARKING THAT MAY BE FALLING ON TOP OF, UM, SIDEWALK EASEMENT.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING DEFERRAL TO WORK THOSE THINGS OUT WITH THE APPLICANT.
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CALL THE SPEAKER? OKAY, THANK YOU.
OKAY, MR. FRY, ARE YOU STILL THERE? YES, I AM.
UH, I'D LIKE TO, IN THE PAST THIS, THESE TWO WERE CONSIDERED THE SAME APPLICATION.
UH, WE, WE WENT TO CITY HALL AND WE WENT TO THE VARIOUS, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MULTIPLE TIMES IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER LAST YEAR, AND HIGHLIGHTED THE SIMILARITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS AND EVEN PLANNING HAS CONSIDERED THEM THE SAME.
SO I WOULD, UH, REQUEST AGAIN THAT THESE BE CONSIDERED ONE, ONE APPLICATION AS PART OF THE VARIANCE.
THERE WAS TALK OF, THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, AND THAT WAS BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE TWO LOTS COMBINED EXCEED A HUNDRED UNITS AND THAT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, AFTER MULTIPLE REQUESTS TO BOTH PUBLIC WORKS AND PLANNING, AND EVEN OUR CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE STILL IN THE DARK AS FAR AS WHAT THE RESULTS OF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY WERE, AND THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO IMPACT HOW THIS WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
IN ADDITION, ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S UNCLEAR.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A VISIBILITY TRIANGLE THAT'S MARKED IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ELLA GROVE WOOD.
UH, IT'S NOT SHOWN HERE, BUT THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION OF ADDING A THREE FOOT RETAINING WALL AND LIFTING THE ENTIRE, UH, THE ENTIRE BLOCK UP THREE FEET OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN AS PART OF, UH, SECTION 42, 1 60 ONES A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN, IN OBSTRUCTING VISIBILITY UP TO 20 FEET.
THERE'S ALSO A GATE SETBACK IN ADDITION TO THE PAE THAT WAS MENTIONED THERE.
UH, NOT MEETING IDM GATE SETBACK ON MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
WE, WE, WE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, NUMEROUS TIMES AND REQUESTED THAT CHAPTER 42, SECTION 1 45 A SEVEN B, UH, ENFORCED WHERE THE GATE SETBACK OFF OF ELLA IS 25 FEET AS SHOWN.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT EXPLICIT, BUT IT WOULD BE IMPLIED TO LOOK AT IT THAT THE GATE IF PLACED, WOULD CUT OFF THE ACCESS OF ONE, UH, OR I'M SORRY, TWO OF THE UNITS, UH, AS ALREADY I THINK DEPUTY, THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT THE, THE TURNAROUND, THE, UH, THE PAE WAS INSUFFICIENT FOR THE, THE, UH, IDM AND AT 300 FEET IS SOMEWHAT EXCESSIVE.
IT RAISES CONCERNS FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT BEING ABLE TO GET IN AND ABOUT.
THERE'S, UH, WE HIGHLIGHT AND AS, AS YOU NOT, YOU HIGHLIGHTED AS WELL, IT'S SHOWN IN THIS, THIS APPLICATION THAT THE PARKING PLACE, THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING PLACES THAT ARE REQUIRED ALONG THE SOUTHERN EDGE DO NOT FIT WITHIN THE RIGHT OF, UH, WITHIN THE, THE ALLOTTED SPACE AND TAKE UP THE SIDEWALK.
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I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT TIME EXPIRED.UM, CAN YOU WRAP UP IN ONE SENTENCE PLEASE? YEAH.
UH, SO THERE'S, THERE'S EIGHT VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE MADE IT THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS.
MANY MORE HAVE BEEN HIGHLIGHTED.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL VIOLATIONS PER SECTION 42 80 3D THAT, UH, THAT CONTINUE TO EXIST.
AND SO WE, THE COMMUNITY VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED THE VARIANCE LAST YEAR.
AND SO WE, WE CONTINUE OUR CONCERNS.
UM, MS. MATER, DO YOU, CAN YOU HELP US RESPOND THROUGH SOME OF THAT? I THINK I CAN, WE CAN START BY SAYING IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO COMBINE THE TWO APPLICATIONS AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BOTH, BOTH THESE APPLICATIONS, UH, ARE SUBDIVISION PLATS.
UH, UNDER CHAPTER 42, EACH SUBDIVISION PLAT STANDS BY ITS OWN, ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE RELATED AND DURING OTHER PROCESSES, BUT TODAY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SEPARATE TWO ITEMS. UH, CHAPTER ITEM 19 AND 2019 MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 42, WHICH IS UNDER YOUR PURVIEW.
AND THAT IS WHY THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE ITEM 20 IS DEFERRED FOR CHAPTER 42 REASONS, I'LL JUST CLARIFY THAT REASON.
THOSE REASONS DO NOT, UH, PERTAIN TO THE LENGTH, UH, LENGTH OF THE PAE BECAUSE THAT IS ALLOWED TO BE 300 OR MORE.
UH, THE, THE QUESTION IS THE T TURNAROUND AT THE END, UH, WHERE IT IS HIGHLIGHTED ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE WILSON IS TRYING TO HOVER HIS MOUSE.
UM, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, THE IDM STANDARDS IN CHAPTER 42 REQUIREMENTS.
UH, GEORGE DID MENTION A LOT OF OTHER ASPECTS.
MOST OF THAT HAS TO BE DEALT AT THE PERMITTING STAGE, NOT DURING THE PLANNING AND PLAT STATE.
SO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS A, WAS NOT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
IT WAS ONE OF THE APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS TO BE CHECKED AT PERMITTING.
AGAIN, IT'LL NOT HAPPEN DURING THE PLATTING PROCESS, BUT IT'LL HAPPEN IF IT IS NEEDED, IT'LL HAPPEN DURING PERMITTING PROCESS.
AND THAT, I WAS TRYING TO PULL UP THE CPC 1 0 1, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH THE CONSTITUENTS IF THEY WANT TO HAVE IT.
UH, HOWEVER WE WERE TRYING TO SHARE IT AND I'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET IT UP.
UM, VISIBILITY TRIANGLE AND THE RETAINING WALL, AGAIN, IT IS, UH, UH, IT IS ALLOWED TO BE BUILT.
WE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST TIME.
UM, IT IS ALLOWED TO BE BUILT BECAUSE IT IS UNDER 36 INCHES.
IT IS ALLOWED TO BE BUILT WITHIN THE VISIBILITY TRIANGLE AND IT'LL, IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE DETENTION.
HOWEVER, I'M NOT THE RIGHT PERSON.
SO THERE ARE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, TEAM IS HERE.
UM, WE CAN CALL UPON AMID WHO CAN AMIT GALI, HE'S WITH PUBLIC WORK CITY, CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE OR SUE HAIL.
UM, TO ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS RELATED TO RETAINING WALL AND, UH, AND ANY OF THE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS.
I, I THINK SINCE THIS IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE PROBABLY UN UNLESS COUNT, UH, COMMISSION WANTS TO CALL ON ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS, WE SHOULD MOVE ON.
BUT I, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE BEST THAT AT THIS POINT, MR. FRY, YOU NEED TO START TO DEAL WITH PUBLIC WORKS IN TERMS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ACTIVITIES REGARDING THE PLATS.
THIS, THIS WILL CONCLUDE OUR ACTIVITY WHEN ASSUMING WE DEFER ONE OF THEM, BUT AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DONE AT THIS LEVEL.
WELL, AND AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS DOESN'T APPROVE ANY OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED ITEMS. THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL NOT BE DUE UNTIL IT GOES TO THE PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PERMITS.
THE RETAINING WALL, WHILE IT'S ALLOWED, WE'RE NOT, WE ARE NOT APPROVING THAT OR DISAPPROVING THAT, THAT'S NOT IN OUR PURVIEW.
ALL OF THOSE ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE PLAT ITSELF ARE HANDLED AT A DIFFERENT STAGE.
AND I JUST WANT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, FOLKS TO ALL UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT, NOT LISTENING TO YOU.
THAT'S JUST NOT IN OUR PURVIEW.
AND SO WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN MOST OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN FRONT OF US.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON ITEMS 19 AND 20? IF NOT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO, UM, THE REST OF THE AGENDA.
UM, WE WILL, WE CAN VOTE ON ALL ITEMS IN SECTIONS A AND B, SAVE AND ACCEPT FOR ITEMS ONE ONE THROUGH 4 7 8, 17, 18, 30, 41, 76, 77, AND 83.
UM, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THOSE ITEMS? MOTION JONES.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FOR PERLE.
AND THEN ON THE REMAINDER, WHICH WILL BE ONE THROUGH 4 7 8 17, 18, 30, 41, 76, 77
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AND 83.IS THERE A MOTION? THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE WHO'S TRYING TO TALK, BUT SHE'S BEING MUTED.
WE CALLED FOR SPEAKERS AND, AND THAT SHE, NOBODY RESPONDED.
LET ME FINISH THE VOTE AND WILL HEAR FROM HER IF SHE WANTS TO SPEAK.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE REMAINDER DISREGARDING ONE OF THESE ITEMS? OKAY.
MA, IS THERE A SECOND? VICTOR? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WHO IS THE SPEAKER PLEASE? HELLO, CHAIR STEIN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN C GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME.
UH, SPEAKING TO ITEMS 19 AND 20, UH, MY NAME IS TRACY RILEY.
I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE TO SPEAK.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE, ESPECIALLY TO CHAIR WALLACE BROWN.
HE SUPPORTED THE TRAFFIC STUDY LAST TIME AND, AND JUST TO ALL OF YOU COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTANDING AS CLARK CHAIR CLARK MENTIONED THAT WHILE THINGS ARE NOT IN YOUR PURVIEW, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN PRESENTED AS ONE PLAT PREVIOUSLY AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY, OR ONE ITEM I SHOULD SAY PREVIOUSLY AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS AGREED UPON BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND THE WAY THAT THE ITEM WAS SET UP IN THE SYSTEM TO KIND OF MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS AS A PARENT OF FOUR CHILDREN WHO ATTEND THE SCHOOL AND A THRIVING COMMUNITY FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT.
I JUST WANNA SPEAK TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WHILE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOU'RE BOUND BY THE STATE AND YOU ONLY HAVE CERTAIN ITEMS IN YOUR PURVIEW.
PLEASE KNOW THAT SEPARATING THESE TWO IS SUCH A DEFEAT TO THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY OR WE FEEL IS SUCH AND IN YOUR EXPLANATIONS GOING FORWARD FROM STAFF, I THINK SAYING, WELL THIS IS DIFFERENT WHILE WE'VE HAD TO FIGHT SO LONG.
AND THAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE ABLE TO WORK AROUND PROCESS AND THEORY TO SOMEONE WITHOUT THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.
IT FEELS AS THOUGH CITIZENS AREN'T BEING SUPPORTIVE WHEN WE SAID, HEY, WE DON'T HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT WE CAN PASS ONE BECAUSE IT LOOKS OKAY TO CHAPTER 42 WHEN WE KNOW WHEN ELLIOT SMITH PRESENTED LAST TIME BECAUSE HIS WIFE WAS KILLED IN A CROSSWALK.
IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE HAVING THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES AS DEVELOPERS.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN, THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS STILL IN REQUIREMENT OF PERMITTING.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THESE ARE GONNA BE BUILT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW OR TOMORROW, BUT AS A CONDITION OF THE PERMIT, THE TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED.
AGAIN, THE
SO IT MAKES IT CLEAR TO EVERYONE WHAT WAS AT ON THE CPC 1 0 1.
THE REQUIREMENT WAS COORDINATE WITH CITY ENGINEER TO PERFORM A TRAFFIC, ANA TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IN ORDER TO ASSESS THE IMPACT OF THE PROJECT DURING PERMITTING STAGE.
SO YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER BALDWIN, IT WAS A CONDITION OF THE PLAT.
IT IS A CONDITION OF THE PLAT FOR PERMITTING.
FOR PERMITTING BECAUSE THAT IS THE CCPC 1 0 1 CONDITIONS ARE OFTEN AN FII TWO ALSO THE APPLICANT THAT THIS IS COMING DOWN THE LINE FOR YOU AND IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT BY 42, CHAPTER 42 THAT WE CAN IMPOSE.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S AN FII FOR THE APPLICANT TO DO IT PRIOR TO PERMITTING.
AND THEY HAVE TO ASSESS IF IT IS NEEDED OR NOT.
IT IS, AGAIN, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DETERMINE.
ONE MORE POINT OF CLARITY SURE.
IS THAT ON BOTH 18 AND 19, THAT CONDITION, SO THEY COULDN'T BUILD 19, 19 20, SORRY.
THEY CAN'T BUILD 19 WITHOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THEN BUILD 20 WHERE THE TRAFFIC STUDY KICKS IN.
'CAUSE THAT'S THEIR CONCERN IS THAT THEY COULD BUILD ONE HALF OF THIS WITHOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
BUT THAT IS NOT A CORRECT STATEMENT.
THEY WOULD, IT'S A CONDITION OF BOTH PLATS.
IT IS A CONDITION OF BOTH THE PLATS AND THAT IS ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU ALL TO SEE.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY, THEN I BELIEVE WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA.
UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD NOTE THAT, UM, COMMISSIONERS HEI AND SIGLER ABSTAINED ON THAT, UM, THAT FIRST VOTE ON THE, THE BALANCE MINUS, OR I'M SORRY, ON THE REMAINDER ITEMS. THANK YOU.
CHAIR NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH ARRIVED AND I WAS HERE FOR BOTH OF THOSE FOLKS.
AND ALSO NOTE, DID COMMISSIONER HEINZ ARRIVED? COMMISSIONER RIS PERLE ARRIVED AND COMMISSIONER SMITH ARRIVED.
SO WE YOU DON'T, YOU NO LONGER GET THE ATTENDANCE GOLD STAR OVER THERE.
AND THERE'S COMMISSIONER KANE.
[c. Replats requiring Public Hearings with Notification (Dorianne Powe-Phlegm, Devin Crittle, and John Cedillo)]
ON, UH, SECTION C, PUBLIC HEARINGS REQUIRING NOTIFICATION.MS. FLM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM ONE 18 IS CLAREMONT PLACE, SECTION ONE PARTIAL RE PLA NUMBER 11.
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WEST ALONG DENTON STREET, BETWEEN WOODLAND AND LOWER COPY ROADS AND HOUSTON'S CORPORATE LIMITS.THE REASON FOR RE PLAT IS TO CREATE SIX SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
STAFF ASKED THE APPLICANT WOULD HE CONSIDER A SHARED DRIVEWAY LAYOUT FOR THIS PLAT.
THE APPLICANT RESPONDED THAT THE OWNER PREFERRED THE LAYOUT AS IT IS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS PLAT.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
LEGAL REVIEW FOR THIS ITEM IS PENDING.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS DEFERRED THE PLAT FOR LEGAL DEED RESTRICTIONS.
REVIEW STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM ONE 18 CLAREMONT PLACE, SECTION ONE IS OPEN.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE CHAT? IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ONE 18? IF NOT, UM, WE WILL SEE IF THERE'S A MOTION TO DEFER AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNLESS THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A SECOND? CLARK? CLARK.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE ITEM IS DEFERRED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED.
ITEM ONE 19 IS MCFALL COURT PARTIAL RE PLAT NUMBER THREE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WEST ALONG ENETT STREET, WEST OF INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 45 AND HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS.
THE REASON FOR RE PLAT IS TO CREATE THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS, THIS PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT PER THE CBC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ONE 19 MCFARLAND COURT IS OPEN.
I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED IN ADVANCE.
ANYBODY IN THE CHAT? ANYONE LISTENING WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ONE 19 HEARING? NO RESPONSE.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLATS SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS IS THEIR DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER SMITH MI MS. POPLE, I BELIEVE THE COLOR DESIGNATIONS IN A MAP IN OUR MATERIALS INDICATES THIS IS IN THE FLOODWAY, CORRECT? YES, IT IS IN THE FLOODWAY.
A PORTION OF IT'S IN THE 100 YEAR, UM, FLOOD PLAIN AND 500 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN.
IT'S, AND ALL APPROPRIATE NOTES AND CAUTIONS AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS ARE PART OF THE CPC 1 0 1? YES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE A MOTION? MA? IS THERE A SECOND? CLARK? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
YEAH, JUST UPDATE OUR RECORDS.
THERE'S SOMEONE TRYING TO SPEAK.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM ONE 20 IS NEW AND MANOR PARTIAL REPL NUMBER 29.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS AT THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF KERRWOOD LANE AND HOSKINS DRIVE EAST OF BAYLOCK ROAD AND NORTH OF LEY BOULEVARD.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RE PLAT IS TO CREATE SIX, UH, FRONT LOADING, UH, SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED.
THE PLAT WAS DEFERRED IN THE LAST CYCLE TO ADDRESS CONCERNS WITH DENSITY AND LOT COVERAGE, LOT SIZE COVERAGE IN THE DEFERRAL.
THE NOTIFICATION SIGN WAS NOT UPDATED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THE PLAT WILL NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACEBOOK PLAT.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS APPLICATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE THE PLAT FOR FAILURE TO MEET NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU PLEASE THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ONE 20 NEW AND MANNER PARTIAL REPL NUMBER 29 IS CONTINUED.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THE CHAT.
ANYONE LISTENING WANNA SPEAK ON ONE 20 NEW AND MANNER HEARING NO RESPONSE.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE FOR, UM, IMPROPER NOTICE.
UM, IS THERE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? OKAY.
ITEM 1 21 IS NORTH CHURCH RESERVE.
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SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF KATY FORT BEND ROAD AND STATE HIGHWAY 99 GRAND PARKWAY AND HOUSTON'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION IN HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS.THE REASON FOR REFL IS TO CREATE ONE UNRESTRICTED RESERVE.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A VARIANCE FROM FOUR TWO DASH 1 93 TO RELA A PORTION OF A GREEN BELT OPEN SPACE RESERVE INTO AN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE.
THE SITE IS A RELA OF A GREEN BELT RESERVE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN AND AN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE NORTH OF THE GREEN BELT RESERVE HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE.
THAT WAS CREATED WITH THE CINCO RANCH METAL PLACE.
SECTION FOUR PLAT RECORDED IN 1995 AND A PORTION OF A COMMERCIAL RESERVE SOUTH OF THE GREEN BELT RESERVE HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE THAT WAS CREATED WITH THE FALCON LANDING SUBDIVISION IN 1998.
LEGAL IS REVIEWING THE SEPARATELY FILED DE RESTRICTIONS AND HAS REQUESTED TIME TO FURTHER REVIEW THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A DEFERRAL.
WE HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER OF PROTEST FROM THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE GREEN BELT RESERVE.
THEY HAVE VOTED, THEY HAVE VOICED, I'M SORRY, CONCERNS ABOUT DEED RESTRICTION VIOLATIONS AND WOULD LIKE FOR THE GREEN BELT AREA TO REMAIN AS IT IS BECAUSE THIS IS A REPLAY OF RESERVE AND NOT A LOT THE PROTEST THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US PER LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
CODE 2 1 2 0.015 C IS NOT A LEGAL PROTEST PER THE STATUTE THAT WOULD REQUIRE SUPER MAJORITY VOTE.
THE PROTEST LETTERS ARE PART OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.
UM, IN THE APPENDIX POSTED ONLINE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE PLAT PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
MADAM CHAIR, IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 21 NORTH CHURCH RESERVE IS OPEN.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS WITH US HERE IS MICHAEL WILSON.
JUST COME, YEAH, COME FORWARD.
UH, MY NAME IS MICHAEL WILSON.
I LIVE AT 1210 MAXELL LANE AND I AM ONE OF THE HOMES THAT AND JASON AT JASON ADJOIN THE PROPERTY.
UH, MY NEIGHBOR AND OTHER NEIGHBORS, WHICH SIGNED THAT LETTER, UM, BOUGHT HOMES THERE BACK IN THE 19 95, 97, 97 ON.
AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT WAS A GREEN BELT.
IT WAS OWNED BY, UM, CINCO RANCH, AND IT WAS GONNA BE A GREEN BELT AND A NICE BUFFER FOR US BETWEEN THE GRAND PARKWAY AND OUR HOMES.
UH, THAT PROPERTY BELONGED TO CINCO RANCH UNTIL 2011 WHEN IT WAS, UH, ACQUIRED BY THE CHURCH FOR $10.
UM, THAT THAT DEED WITH WARRANT WITHOUT WARRANTY STIPULATED THAT THEY NEEDED TO CLEAN THAT PROPERTY.
THEY NEVER CLEANED THE PROPERTY.
HOMELESS PEOPLE WERE LIVING THERE.
AND IN 2019, WE HAD, WE FOUND OUT THAT THE CHURCH ACTUALLY OWNED THE PROPERTY.
UH, WE HAD NEVER BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THE, THAT THE PROPERTY HAD TRANSFERRED, UH, OWNERSHIP.
AND, UH, WE APPROACHED THE CHURCH AND SAID, LOOK, THERE'S HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVING THERE.
SO THEY WENT AND CLEANED IT UP, BUT THEN THEY PUT IT UP FOR SALE.
NOW THEIR STATEMENT OF FACT IN, IN THEIR VARIANCE REQUESTS STATES THAT THEY PURCHASED THE LAND SO THAT THEY COULD EXPAND THEIR CAMPUS AND ALSO FOR RELIGIOUS AND INSTITUTIONAL PURPOSES.
WELL, THEY'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WITH THAT PROPERTY.
AND IT WASN'T UNTIL WE TOLD THEM, PLEASE CLEAN IT UP, THAT THEY DECIDED TO PUT IT UP FOR SALE.
AND WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED THAT SOMETHING WILL BE BUILT THERE ASIDE FROM A GREEN BELT, ASIDE FROM A PARK OR SOME KIND OF ATHLETIC, UH, FACILITY.
AND IT'S GONNA BRING DOWN OUR VALUE OF OUR HOMES AND IT'S GONNA CREATE A NUISANCE FOR US.
AND I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT A LEGAL PROTEST BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE ALL THE PROPERTIES, UH, THAT ARE JOINING IT WITHIN 200 FEET SIGN SAYING WE PROTEST THIS.
THE, IT'S A, IT'S A CALCULATION AND I, I COULDN'T EXPLAIN IT IF MY LIFE DEPENDED ON IT, BUT THE PROTEST COUNT, IT JUST INVALIDATES THE REQUIREMENT OF A SUPER MAJORITY OF OUR VOTE.
ALL THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL THAT'S IMPACTED.
IT DOESN'T VALIDATE IT, IT REQUIRES, DOESN'T IT WOULD REQUIRE US TO HAVE, I MEAN, I KNOW WHERE IT PROBABLY IS NOT GONNA MATTER.
THE SO YOUR PROTEST IS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSIONERS.
THE CONDITION THAT 75% OF US VOTE A CERTAIN WAY DOES NOT KICK IN BECAUSE OF YOUR PROTEST, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN YOUR PROTEST ISN'T BEING CONSIDERED.
DO YOU WANNA TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS PROGRAM PROLEM? IT WAS
SO THE STATE LAW STATES THAT, UM, 20% OF THE PERSONS WHO, UM, WHO LIVE WITHIN THE ORIGINAL PLAT, UM, 20% OF THE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE LAND OF THE, UH, OF 200 FEET OF THE PLAT CAN PROTEST.
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THEN IT, IT WOULD REQUIRE 75% OR 75 OR THREE FOURTHS, SAME THING.SUPER MAJORITY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO, UM, VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE PLAT IN ORDER FOR THE, UM, GRANT FOR THE VARIANCE TO BE GRANTED.
HOWEVER, IN THE SAME, UM, STATE LAW PROVISION, IF IT'S NOT A REPL OF A LOT, IF IT'S A RELA FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN A SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEX, THEN UM, IT DOESN'T, IT IT IS, IT IS NOT REQUIRED.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
SO THIS A SO THE WOULD BE A SIMPLE MAJORITY COULD PASS OR VOTE UP OR DOWN VERSUS THREE-FOURTHS BEING REQUIRED TO APPROVE THE PLA.
IF, IF, IF IT MEANT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FORMAL PROTEST, IT WOULD, YOU WOULD REQUIRE 3 3, 3 FOURTHS.
THREE, THREE FOURTHS OF THE, OF THE VOTING COMMISSION.
IN THIS CASE IT WOULD ONLY TAKE A MAJORITY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE, MAKE THE THRESHOLD.
LET US FOCUS ON SOME OF THE OTHER REASONS THAT WE'RE DEFERRING AT THIS POINT.
WE, WE DO HAVE SOME, UM, SOME QUESTIONS THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE DEFERRING AT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, BUT I THINK WE ALSO HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, CORRECT? YES.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO DEFER AT FIRST, BUT LEGAL HAS, IS IN PROCESS OF REVIEWING IT, AND THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND THEY ASKED TO, FOR IT TO DEFER FOR THEY COULD, UM, LOOK AT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS AT PLAY HERE THAT THIS ISN'T A DONE DEAL AT.
SO, UM, LET ME GO AHEAD AND CALL THE OTHER SPEAKERS AND SEE IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ELUCIDATE A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT THE PROCESS IS GONNA BE.
AND THANK YOU MR. WILSON FOR BEING HERE.
UM, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS, MAY I JUST ADD ONE MORE THING TOO? PARDON ME? MAY I JUST ADD ONE MORE COMMENT, SIR? UH, DID HE, DID HE GET, DID HE HAVE ANY TIME LEFT ON HIS TWO MINUTES? I'M SORRY, I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION.
I, I JUST WANT TO MENTION AGAIN THAT THE STATEMENT OF FACT SAYS THAT WHAT THEIR INTENTION WAS TO EXPAND THEIR CAMPUS, BUT THEY'VE NEVER HAD THAT INTENT.
AND IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE WE TOLD HIM THEY GOTTA CLEAN IT UP, THAT THEY PUT IT UP FOR SALE.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY TRUTHFUL WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
OKAY, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SARAH, UH, ES G-E-R-D-E-S.
MS. ESS, ARE YOU HERE OR SHE'S ONLINE.
MS. ESS, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I CAN.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN GO RIGHT AHEAD.
SO, UM, SARAH TI THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.
I AM HERE TO RAISE A PROTEST ON BEHALF OF THE, THERE'S MY CAMERA.
I'M HERE TO RAISE A PROTEST ON BEHALF OF THE SINGLE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNER PROPERTY ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE RESIDENTIAL ASSOCIATION FOR THOSE RESIDENCES THAT BACK UP AGAINST THIS PROPERTY.
I'M ALSO HERE TO RAISE A PROTEST FOR THE CINCO LANDSCAPE ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE ASSOCIATION FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS WELL.
UM, BOTH ASSOCIATIONS ARE STRONGLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE.
WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS DEED TO THE CHURCH, THE CHURCH BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY SUBJECT TO A REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE MAINTAINED AS AN OPEN SPACE.
AS SUCH WAS PROMISED TO THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS WHO BUILT THEIR HOUSES THERE AND RELIED UPON THE REPRESENTATIONS DURING THE PURCHASE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, WE'RE ALSO IN PROTEST, AS WAS ALREADY MENTIONED, THE ENTIRE APPLICATION SITES THAT THIS, UM, VARIANCE IS BEING SOUGHT FOR INSTITUTIONAL AND CHURCH USE.
AND THE CHURCH IS RECENTLY ISSUED A LETTER OUT TO THE COMMUNITY EXPLAINING THAT THEY ARE INTENDING ON SELLING THE PROPERTY AND DID PUT A FOR SALE SIGN UP, UM, THE INFORMATION OF WHICH I'VE ALREADY SENT ON, UM, TO Y'ALL FOR REVIEW.
SO I'M SIMPLY HERE TO LODGE THAT PROTEST ON BEHALF OF BOTH PROPERTY ASSOCIATIONS, WHICH ARE BOTH INVOLVED WITH THIS PROPERTY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? CAN WE JUST GET CLARITY THAT THE STAFF OR LEGAL HAS A COPY OF THE DEED THAT MIGHT MENTION THIS RESTRICTION? IS THERE SUCH A DEED? I'LL ASK A LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE IF THEY HAVE ONE.
HAVE THEY SHARED I I UNDERSTAND THAT, I KNOW WE'VE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION ON THIS ONE BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, UM, REGARDING THIS.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE, UH, AND WE'LL VERIFY THE PROTEST MATTER AS WELL.
SO, COMMISSIONER ABRAHAM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CALLER.
I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
AND SO DOES THIS PROPERTY FALL WITHIN YOUR, UH, YOUR ABILITY TO RESTRICT USE ACCORDING TO YOUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS? UH, GREAT QUESTION.
SO I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF TWO ASSOCIATIONS.
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THE FIRST IS A CINCO RESIDENTIAL.UM, SO THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT FALL WITHIN THE CINCO RESIDENTIAL JURISDICTION, BUT IT, ALL OF THOSE RESIDENCES THAT BACK UP TO THIS PROPERTY, UM, ARE PART OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND WERE PROMISED THAT THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY WOULD REMAIN OPEN FOR RECREATIONAL USE.
I ALSO REPRESENT CINCO LANDSCAPE, AND THIS PROPERTY DOES FALL WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THAT ASSOCIATION.
UM, SO THE, THE RESTRICTIONS THEMSELVES DO NOT PROHIBIT THE USE.
HOWEVER, THERE'S NOTHING IN THESE RESTRICTIONS THAT ALLOWS FOR THE REPLANTING OF AN OPEN SPACE INTO A UNRESTRICTED COMMERCIAL SPACE, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT THAT PROPERTY, WHEN ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED BOTH THE GREEN PORTION IN THE RED TRIANGLE ABOVE OR SOLD WITH RESTRICTIONS REQUIRING RESIDENTIAL USE BY THE DEVELOPER.
SO THIS REPL INCLUDES A VARIANCE REQUEST, AND THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT'S ASKING.
I'M, I'M WILLING TO MOTION TO, TO GRANT STAFF, UH, MORE TIME TO LOOK INTO THIS FARTHER, BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU'RE ASKING US TO GO BEYOND YOUR REGULATIONS AND TO CONSIDER, UH, THIS WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE CALLING TO BE, TO BE A BURDEN ON PROPERTY OWNERS.
YOU'RE ASKING US TO GO BEYOND THE REGULATIONS AND TO NOT GRANT THIS, THIS REQUEST AS, AS PER THE APPLICANT.
I'M ASKING THAT THE CONTENT OF THE DEEDS BE RECOGNIZED AS WELL, WHICH I, I FORWARDED ONTO THE COMMISSION BECAUSE OF THESE PROPERTIES WERE ALL SOLD WITH RESTRICTIONS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS OFFERED BY THE DEVELOPER TO THESE HOMEOWNERS WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR PROPERTY SURROUNDING THIS.
SO, AND, AND IF YOU'RE WELCOME, OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT DETERMINES THAT THIS DOES VIOLATE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
WE WOULD HAVE NO, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO APPROVE IT, OF COURSE.
UM, OKAY, LET ME FINISH WITH THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
THE NEXT ONE I HAVE IS, UH, MELINDA, UH, J IS IT CHESKY KY? OKAY, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
UM, THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY APOSTLES SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE A SITE FOR RELIGIOUS AND IN INSTITUTIONAL PURPOSES.
YET ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT THEY SENT ME, THEY SAID THE LAND WILL BE SOLD TO A DEVELOPER WITH THE SPECIFICS OF THE BUSINESS TO RECITE IS UNKNOWN.
THIS UNKNOWN BUSINESS IS GOING TO CAUSE NOISE, POLLUTION AND CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS, AND MAKE THE BUILDING OF THE SOUND WALL THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED ALONG THE FEEDER OF 99.
UM, ANY BUSINESS ON THIS TRACK WILL INEVITABLY BRING NOISE, POLLUTION AND RODENT INFESTATION FROM ANY NEIGHBOR FROM ANY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
FOR MANY DUMPSTERS, WE CAN ONLY ASSUME BASED ON ALL THE BUSINESSES ON 99, THAT THIS WILL BE SOLD TO A RESTAURANT.
THE DUMPSTERS THAT WILL BE FILLED WITH FOOD WASTE WILL ATTRACT MENT TO OUR YARDS WHERE OUR CHILDREN PLAY.
AND INSIDE THE SURROUNDING HOMES, THERE IS NO NEED FOR MORE BUSINESSES IN OUR AREA.
DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE CHURCH, THERE IS A STRIP CENTER THAT IS A CONSTANT ROTATION OF BUSINESSES GOING OUT OF BUSINESS AND REOPENING BACK UP.
THIS WILL HAPPEN TO WHATEVER BUSINESS THAT OPENS THERE.
SO EVERY YEAR WE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH A NEW BUSINESS COMING IN AND MAKING CHANGES, CONSTRUCTION, NOISE, DEBRIS, FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER.
WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSES, WE WERE TOLD THE LAND WAS RESTRICTED AND PER CITY CODE ORDINANCES, NOTHING COULD BE BUILT THERE.
OUR BUSINESS COULD NOT BE BUILT THERE.
WE WILL NOT ONLY LOSE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT OUR RESALE VALUE WILL PLUMMET.
ACCORDING TO THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH'S WEBSITE, THEY HAVE OVER $400 MILLION IN TRUST ASSETS, 11 BILLION WITH A B IN CLERGY RETIREMENT FUNDS, AND ANOTHER 4.5 BILLION WITH A B AMONG THEIR PARISHES AND DIOCESE.
THIS WILL BE A DROP IN THE BUCKET FINANCIALLY FOR THEM, BUT IT WILL PROVE TO BE A VERY LARGE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP ON THE HARDWORKING RESIDENTS WHO ARE USING THE EQUITY BUILT UP IN THIS HOME AS OUR RETIREMENT PLANS.
UM, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PAMELA PELTON.
I'M ACTUALLY JUST GONNA ECHO EVERYTHING EVERYBODY ELSE SAID.
IT SEEMS TO BE A BIG DISCREPANCY ON THE PAPERWORK THAT I'VE SEEN THAT THE CHURCH IS TELLING US THROUGH YOUR NOTIFICATION THAT THEY WANNA EXPAND THEIR CAMPUS, BUT YET IT HAS BEEN FOR SALE.
AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO THAT REALTOR MYSELF TWO YEARS AGO, THAT THEY WANT TO SELL THAT TO GET A LITTLE MONEY FOR THE CHURCH.
SO NOT TO THROW OUT ANY PUNS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF BAD FAITH GOING ON HERE BETWEEN US AND THE CHURCH.
SO WE DO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO TAKE IT UPON OURSELVES, MICHAEL AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT ABOUT CLEANING IT UP AND LAST YEAR BEFORE THE FREEZE, WHEN HE FOUND THAT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE OUT THERE, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT STARTED IT.
SO THEY SAY THEY, THEY OWN IT, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT, BUT IT TOOK AN INSTANCE LIKE THAT FOR THEM TO GO CLEAN IT UP.
SO WE JUST, UH, ECHO AND EVERYBODY ELSE, WE
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JUST REALLY HOPE THAT Y'ALL SAY NO.THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 21 NORTH CHURCH RESERVE? NOBODY IN THE CHAT.
UM, LET'S TURN TO THE COMMISSION.
SINCE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT ANYONE, ANYBODY WANTS TO ASK FOR OR MAKE A COMMENT? I WOULD ASK IF THE APPLICANT'S PRESENT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.
I'D BE INTERESTED IN, IN HEARING, UH, FROM, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON OR WHAT'S INTENDED.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? DO WE KNOW? I, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE DO MS. POLAND, DO WE KNOW IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE OR, OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT STAFF ALSO HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
WE WERE NOT AWARE, UM, THAT THE PROPERTY WAS GONNA BE SOLD.
UM, THE STAFF, I MEAN, THE VARIANCE REQUEST CAME UP, ALL THE INFORMATION, THE VARIANCE REQUEST DID TALK ABOUT THE CHURCH EXPANDING, UM, THE CHURCH CAMPUS.
SO, UH, NORMALLY WE WOULD, UH, REQUEST THAT, UH, THEY WOULD RESTRICT THE PROPERTY TO, UM, TO CHURCH RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONAL USE.
WE TALKED TO THE, WE TALKED TO THE, UH, APPLICANT ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN THAT'S WHEN HE DISCLOSED TO US THIS WEEK THAT, UH, THIS PROPERTY IS GONNA BE, UH, RECOMMENDED TO BE SOLD.
SO WE HAVE WORK TO DO IN ADDITION TO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
UM, IF NO ONE ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS AND THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION, UH, TO DEFER THE ITEM AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING? THANK YOU, ABRAHAM.
IS THERE A SECOND? JONES? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
UH, SO FOR SPEAKERS, WE'LL BE BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND YOU CAN COME BACK AND SPEAK AGAIN.
ITEM 1 22 IS SHEPHERD OAKS PARTIALLY PLAT NUMBER TWO, THE SIZE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST INTERSECTION OF JANET AND BRICKMAN STREETS AND HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS.
THE REASON FOR RE PLAT IS TO CREATE NINE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
STAFF ASKED THE APPLICANT, UM, TO CONSIDER A SHARED DRIVEWAY LAYOUT FOR THIS PROPOSAL, AND THE APPLICANT RESPONDED, THE OWNER PREFERRED THE FRONT LOADERS LOTS INSTEAD, THERE ARE NO VARIANCE REQUESTED WITH THIS PLAT.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
LEGAL REVIEW FOR THIS ITEM IS PENDING.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS DEFER THE PLAT FOR LEGAL DEED RESTRICTIONS.
REVIEW STAFF DID RECEIVE ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM CONCERNING TRAFFIC ISSUES AND SAFETY OF CHILDREN WALKING TO SCHOOL.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 1 22 SHEPHERD OAKS PLAZA IS OPEN.
UH, I'M SORRY, JUST SHEPHERD OAKS PARTIAL REPL NUMBER TWO.
UM, THE SPEAKER I HAVE LISTED IS SUSAN FITZPATRICK.
I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF SHEPHERD OAKS, BUT MY HOUSE BACKS UP TO THE PROPERTY ON BRINKMAN.
AND I HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS OF CONCERN.
ONE, PRIMARILY BEING THE CHILDREN ACROSS THE STREET.
DURHAM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY.
WE HAVE CHILDREN WALKING CONSTANTLY.
WE HAVE PARKING FOR THE PARENTS WHO DO PICKUP, SO THEY'RE TAKING UP A LANE OF TRAFFIC, WHICH LEAVES ONLY ONE OTHER LANE.
MY CONCERN IS, ARE THESE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE PROPOSED, IS THE PARKING GONNA BE IN FRONT OR IS IT GONNA BE IN THE BACK? THAT'S ONE ONE QUESTION WE HAVE.
UM, IF IT'S GONNA BE IN THE FRONT AND THEY'RE PARKING ON THE STREET, THAT LEAVES ONE LANE POSSIBLY FOR AMBULANCES, FIRE TRUCKS.
ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS, OF COURSE, THE DRAINAGE.
RIGHT NOW IT'S A GREEN SPACE WITH THE HOUSE ON IT.
WHAT IS THAT GONNA DO WITH THE DRAINAGE IN OUR AREA? UH, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS THE STREET THE SETBACK IS, IS THERE GONNA BE ENOUGH ROOM FOR CARS TO PARK IN DRIVEWAYS? HAVE THEY REVIEWED THAT WITH ANYONE? UM, WHAT ARE THE DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR THIS LAND? I
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WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING ONLINE THAT REFLECTS SHEPHERD OAKS.IT'S GONNA BE A TWO STORIES OR THREE STORIES.
THERE'S NO PRIVACY FOR OUR BACKYARDS IN CANDLELIGHT PLAZA.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH, WITH US TODAY.
UM, HANG ON ONE SECOND AND JUST LET ME ASK IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
UM, WE ARE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO DEFER IS BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING INTO SOME OF THESE ISSUES, I WOULD SAY, AND WE WON'T GO INTO THE FRONT LOADERS THERE.
IT'S, NOBODY'S GONNA BE ABLE TO PARK ON THAT STREET BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A SERIES OF DRIVEWAYS WITH NOT MUCH OF A PEDESTRIAN REALM.
WE ASK THEM TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO.
AND CURRENTLY THAT'S ALLOWABLE UNDER THE LAW.
UM, THE DRAINAGE WILL BE REVIEWED BY PUBLIC WORKS IN THE, UM, PERMITTING PROCESS, AND THEY WILL HAVE TO, THEY'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE NEW, ALL THE NEW DRAINAGE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE.
UM, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO RESPOND TO IN TERMS OF THE QUESTIONS? WHAT ABOUT THE, HOW MANY STORIES IS IT GONNA BE? WE DON'T REALLY, WE DON'T KNOW.
DO WE KNOW? NO, WE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE CAN CONSIDER.
OUR PLATING IS KIND OF A, JUST WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.
SO IF IT'S THREE STORIES AND THEY CAN LOOK INTO MY BACKYARD IN THE BACK OF MY HOUSE.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS IN CHAPTER 42 AT THIS TIME.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
HOWEVER, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT WILL BE, BUT IT'S UNCLEAR.
SO WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY DEFER IT FOR TWO WEEKS AND WE INVITE YOU TO COME BACK OR AT LEAST WATCH US IN TWO WEEKS.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 22? YES, WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE CHAT.
ARE YOU THERE, MR. OR MS. ERBA SPEAKING? OH, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, WE CAN GO RIGHT AHEAD.
UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE FOR CLARIFICATION.
THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, UH, THAT IS IN THE PROPOSED REPL IS AT DURHAM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF CANDLELIGHT AND BRINKMAN IS THE PRIMARY WALKTHROUGH GATE, UH, OF ENTRY FOR STUDENTS ENTERING THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE WEST SIDE OF BRINKMAN SERVES AS THE STAGING AREA FOR CARS FOR PICKUP, AS WELL AS MULTIPLE SCHOOL BUSES, BOTH SERVING THIS SCHOOL AS WELL AS PICKUP POINTS FOR OTHER LOCATIONS.
I'M HERE TO EXPRESS A, A GRAVE SAFETY CONCERN AS THE REPL PUTS MULTIPLE DRIVEWAYS INTO THAT INTERSECTION, WHICH WOULD THEN HAMPER THE, OR INTERFERE WITH THE CROSSWALKS.
UH, PARTICULARLY THE CROSSING GUARDS, UH, AS WELL AS HAVING FRONT LOAD, UH, WOULD ALSO IMPACT THE NEWLY REDONE BRINKMAN STREET THAT HAS SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES, ENABLING ADDITIONAL ACCESS.
UH, AS WE'VE SEEN TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN THIS AREA, UH, WE'VE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN PEDESTRIANS.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS THIS REPL SHOWS, IT'S GONNA BE CONTINUING.
UH, I AM CONCERNED FOR THE GRAVE SA THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN TRYING TO WALK THERE AS WELL AS INTRODUCING DRIVEWAYS.
BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY, UH, ON TRASH DAYS, TRASH PICKUP DAYS, TUESDAY.
SO FROM MONDAY NIGHT UNTIL, UH, UNFORTUNATELY MO USUALLY THURSDAY MORNING, UH, THERE WILL BE CANS PLACED OUT, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, WHICH WOULD THEN OBSTRUCT THE SCHOOL BUSES AND THE CROSSWALKS, AND PRIMARILY THAT INTERSECTION OF CANDLELIGHT AND BRINKMAN STREET TIME, UH, WHICH WOULD THEN CREATE ADDITIONAL SAFETY HAZARDS.
WE, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS.
UM, AS WE SAID, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THIS ITEM AND, UH, WE INVITE YOU TO KIND OF STAY TUNED AND SEE, SEE WHAT DEVELOPS ON IT.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS WHO WANNA SPEAK ON 1 22 SHEPHERD OAKS? OKAY.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? YES.
COMMISSIONER ROSENBERG, SINCE I, UH, MISSED A COUPLE MEETINGS IN PERSON, JUST IS THERE A, UH, STATUS OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S ANALYSIS OF THE SHARED DRIVE, UM, ORDINANCE CHANGE AND, AND WHAT'S THE RELATIVE PLAN OF THAT COMING TO US? YEAH, I'LL LET, I'LL LET, WE ARE WORKING, WE ARE WORKING ON DRAFT AMENDMENTS RIGHT NOW.
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SHARE WITH YOU THROUGH EMAIL WHAT WE'VE GIVEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE LAST, I THINK IT WAS TWO OR THREE SESSIONS AGO.I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT PRESENTATION TO YOU.
BUT CURRENTLY WE ARE WORKING ON, UM, A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WOULD, UM, CHANGE THE FRONT LOADING AND, UM, SLIGHTLY TO, TO REDUCE THE DRIVEWAY WIDTH AND INCREASE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND INCREASE DRAINAGE POTENTIAL FOR THAT AREA.
UM, AND ALSO SOME CHANGES WITH SHARED DRIVEWAYS
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER ITEM 1 22 AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION? SIGLER? IS THERE A SECOND? AYE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM 1 23 IS SPRING BRANCH ESTATES NUMBER TWO, PARTIAL REPL NUMBER 16.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF HOLLISTER STREET AT THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF MCKEAN DRIVE AND CAROUSEL LANE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RE PLAT IS CREATE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT DOES NOT VIOLATE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT OR THOSE FILED SEPARATELY.
STATUTES OF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION.
YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 23 SPRING BRANCH ESTATES IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 23? HEARING NO RESPONSE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION MOTION CLARK CLARK, SECOND NELSON.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF HOMESTEAD ROAD AND WAYBURN STREET NORTH OF LAY ROAD.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REPLANT IS TO CREATE SIX SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THIS PLAT IS SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL DEED RESTRICTED SETBACKS.
HOWEVER, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE THE PLAT FOR FAILURE TO MEET THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENT.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 24 WAYBURN ESTATES IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING OR HERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 24 WAYBURN ESTATES HEARING NO RESPONSE.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISAPPROVE PER NOTICE.
UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO MOTION BALDWIN? IS THERE A SECOND? VICTOR? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM 1 25 IS SW SPRING PINES ESTATE'S PARTIAL REPL NUMBER 13.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF WHISPERING PINES DRIVE AND FLOWERDALE STREET NORTH OF WESTVIEW DRIVE AND WEST OF ANTOINE DRIVE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RE PLAT IS TO CREATE FIVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS ALONG A SHARED DRIVEWAY.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM, AND THE PLAT HAS MET NO MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
LEGAL, UH, REVIEW BY LEGAL IS STILL ONGOING AND IS YET TO BE DETERMINED, UH, YET TO REACH A DETERMINATION.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS APPLICATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE PLA FOR TWO WEEKS TO ALLOW FOR FURTHER LEGAL REVIEW.
MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU PLEASE THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1 25 WHISPERING PINES ESTATES IS OPEN.
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GOOD AFTERNOON.YOU CAN, YOU, YOU CAN DO BOTH IF YOU WANT, BUT IF YOU WANNA WAIT TILL NEXT TIME, THAT'S FINE.
YEAH, I'LL WAIT TILL NEXT TIME.
UM, THE SECOND SPEAKER I HAVE LISTED AS LARRY PETERS, P-E-T-E-R-S.
MR. PETERS, THAT'S THE TIME FOR NEXT TIME.
AND, UM, KLAUS GUNLOCK, THIS IS ME AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO RESERVE THE TIME FOR THE NEXT TIME FOR THE NEXT HEARING, PLEASE.
AND IT, JUST FOR CLARITY, YOU MAY SPEAK NOW AND IN TWO WEEKS, SO IT'S UP TO YOU.
UM, BUT YOU WILL NEED TO SIGN UP AGAIN NEXT TIME.
YOU HAVE TO CALL IN AGAIN TO SIGN OR COME IN AND DO THIS.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE CHAT? IS THERE ANYONE LISTENING WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 25 WHISPERING PINES? IF NOT, UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER FOR PERLE? SECOND.
1 25 IS DEFERRED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED.
ITEM 1 26 IS YOAKUM GARDENS PARTIAL RE PLAT NUMBER TWO.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE HOUSTON CORPORATE LIMITS WEST ALONG MARNE ROAD, EAST OF BINGO ROAD AND NORTH OF LEY BOULEVARD.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RE PLAT IS TO CREATE EIGHT SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND SHARED RE AND PARKING RESERVES ALONG A SHARED DRIVEWAY.
THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM, AND THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
REVIEW BY LEGAL INDICATES THAT THE PLAT DOES NOT VIOLATE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT.
ARE THOSE FILED SEPARATELY? WE HAVE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS APPLICATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING ON, UH, YOAKUM GARDENS ITEM 1 26 IS OPEN.
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE CHAT.
LEO LOPEZ, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THE, I BELIEVE IT'S LOPEZ CAUSING THE FEEDBACK.
MR. LOPEZ, HE'S CAUSING THE FEEDBACK.
SO, MR. LOPEZ, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
SO HE'S NOT CAUSING THE, OH, CAN YOU SPEAK FOR HIM? YEAH.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT, UM, OH, WAIT, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD FOR US.
WHAT YEAR IS YOUR FIRST NAME? ESPIN.
WELL, THE ONLY CONCERN WE HAVE HERE IS ABOUT, UH, THE DRAINAGE.
UM, WHEN HARVEY HAPPENED, I THINK WE WERE LIKE, UH, FIVE INCHES BEFORE OUR HOUSE GOT FLOODED.
SO BASICALLY THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF THE APARTMENTS BEHIND OUR HOUSE THAT Y CAN SEE THERE, UM, IS NOTHING BUT CONCRETE.
AND BACK THEN IT WAS JUST NOTHING BUT LAND.
SO NOW WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE APARTMENTS OR TOWN HOMES THAT ARE GONNA GET BUILT THERE.
WHETHER IT'S GONNA LIKE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE LONGER FOR, FOR THE WATER TO DRAIN, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TO HAVE DETENTION TO MANAGE ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL FLOW FROM IT.
UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE REVIEWED AND, UM, PERMITTED BY PUBLIC WORKS GOING FORWARD IF AND WHEN THEY EVER BUILD, UM, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT WHEN THEY BUILD THE HOUSES.
SO THEORETICALLY THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, WE HAVE A MR. SAD IS VIRTUAL BECAUSE HE'S RUNNING ALL THE, THE DOCUMENTS FROM THE OFFICE, BUT MAYBE MS.
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MACHO OR SOMEBODY COULD SPEAK TO YOU OR, UH, DO WE, WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM PUBLIC WORKS HERE, RIGHT?UM, WELL STICK AROUND FOR A MINUTE AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET SOMEBODY TO, TO JUST MEET WITH YOU AND EXPLAIN, UM, EXACTLY HOW THE, THE DRAINAGE REVIEW IS CONDUCTED.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
ABOUT PRIVACY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE LIMIT OR THE LEGAL LIMITS THERE? IN THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT? YES.
THERE'S NO HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, BUT DO WE KNOW YEAH.
WE DON'T REGULATE HEIGHT IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON.
DO WE KNOW IF THESE ARE TWO STORY OR THREE STORY TOWNHOUSES? JUST, I'M SORRY, WE GO AHEAD, JOHN.
UH, AT THIS POINT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN CONFIRMATION ON THE HEIGHT OF, OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
UH, JUST THAT IT WILL BE TIME.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER CLARK COULD, UH, MS. MOHER, COULD YOU PROVIDE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE APPLICANT SO THAT MAYBE THIS GENTLEMAN COULD GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM AND MAYBE ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS FOR HIM? THANK YOU.
AND IF I, IF I COULD JUST ADD ESPIN, UM, I, I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT WITH EACH ITERATION OF LAND DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT THE REQUIREMENTS FROM DRAINAGE AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS ARE, ARE MORE STRINGENT, UH, I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OBSERVATION ABOUT DENSITY AND CITIES GROWING AND PRIVACY IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN.
UM, BUT AS CITIES BECOME MORE DENSE, UM, AS THEY GO VERTICAL, UM, THESE ARE ISSUES WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FACE.
UM, I WOULDN'T WANNA MISLEAD YOU THAT THIS COMMISSION OR TOO MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS COULD MITIGATE THAT.
RIGHT? WE COULD BUFFER, BUT I, I DON'T THINK WE COULD MI MITIGATE IT.
GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THE, THE APPLICANT, THE DEVELOPER TO TRY TO FIND OUT, TALK TO THEM ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS IS PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.
UM, AS COMMISSIONER CLARK SUGGESTED, AND WE'LL ASK MS. MACHO TO GET YOU THAT CONTACT INFORMATION FROM MR.
ANYBODY ELSE? I'VE ALSO PROVIDED, I DO HAVE A COMMENT, UM, COMMISSIONER ABRAHAM, AND IT'S RELATED TO MY COLLEAGUES, WELL, MY COLLEAGUE JUST BROUGHT UP.
ALSO, YOUR RESPONSE TO THE, TO THE, UH, TO, TO THE SPEAKER HERE.
UM, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU CONFIDENCE THAT, THAT THE CITY IS GONNA DO ALL IT CAN TO BE ABLE TO REMEDIATE ANY FLOODING OR DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. THIS HAPPENS VERY OFTEN IN FRONT OF OUR COMMISSION.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD STANDARDIZE OUR RESPONSE SO THAT IT DOES REFLECT THE CITY'S POSITION AND OURS AS WELL, SO THAT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T END UP BANDING AROUND DIFFERENT, IT'S HARD BECAUSE IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO OFFLINE? OUR RE AS A FOLLOW UP OR OUR RESPONSE IS SORT OF, IT'S NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT COULD DEVELOP A RESPONSE FOR.
AND THAT WOULD BE, I'D BE HAPPY, I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE ENGINEER'S OFFICE TO SEE IF THEY COULD DEVELOP, I MEAN, THEY'RE ON THE CALL, WE COULD ASK THEM TO RESPOND.
THEY'RE USUALLY HERE, BUT TO EACH APPLICANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE WELL, BUT IT DEPENDS, MAY BE SENSITIVE, SO MAYBE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT EVERY TIME.
BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE US TO GIVE PEOPLE MORE CONFIDENCE THAT, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
WE HAVE A VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH PUBLIC WORKS RIGHT NOW, AND SO PERHAPS THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO ADDRESS HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MAKE, YOU KNOW, MAKE PEOPLE FEEL A LITTLE BIT SAFER ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THE CITY IS DOING SOMETHING, BUT THIS COMMISSION DOESN'T.
WE HAVE SOME VERY STRINGENT DETENTION LAWS NOW.
SO, UM, BUT THE PROCESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS A VERY, VERY EARLY STAGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS PLATTING.
IT'S KINDA LINES ON A MAP AND A LOT OF THE, THE STUFF YOU CARE ABOUT IS GONNA HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
UM, AND IT MAY BE A LONG TIME, BUT IT MAY NOT.
UM, BUT THANK YOU MR. LOPEZ FOR BEING HERE AND PASS ALONG OUR APOLOGIES TO, TO YOUR BROTHER THAT WE COULDN'T CONNECT WITH HIM, BUT YOU DID A GOOD JOB IN HIS, ON HIS BEHALF.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON YOAKUM GARDENS? YES, UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE LEO ON THE PHONE, SO WE GOT HIM TO CALL IN, SO HE IS AVAILABLE.
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LEO ELLIO? YES, MA'AM.I THE PHONE, DO YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN GO RIGHT AHEAD.
MY ONLY CONCERN TOO, AS WELL, IT IS THE PRIVACY TOO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I HAD TO DEAL WITH THE DAKOTA AT BINGO ALREADY WITH THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION.
Y'ALL ALLOWED TO CONSTRUCT IT LOT.
I HAD TO PICK UP A LOT OF BEER BOTTLES, A LOT OF, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS THAT I SHOULD NOT BE PICKING UP BECAUSE I LIVE THERE AND I DO WANNA HAVE THAT CONCERN OUT OF MY HEAD BECAUSE IT IS A BURNING, GETTING UP EVERY MORNING, PICKING UP BOTTLES, PICKING UP THINGS THAT I DON'T EVEN DRINK, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
EVEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION, WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION WAS GOING ON, THAT WAS HAPPENING AND NOW THAT THE FIVE STORES WENT UP, UH, THE REFLECTIONS OF THE, OF THE, WHAT'S IT CALLED, OF THE WINDOWS ARE HITTING UP MY HOUSE SUPER, LIKE HOT, HOT, HOT.
I, I WAS MEASURING THE TEMPERATURES ON TOP OF MY, UH, ON TOP OF MY ATTIC AND IT WAS REALLY LIKE IN ALMOST AT THE 200 LEVELS, LIKE WHAT CAN, WHAT CAN I DO OR WHAT CAN Y'ALL DO TO, TO AVOID THIS STUFF? THE BILLS ARE GOING UP BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND NO ONE, NO ONE IS OUT THERE TRYING TO FIX MY STUFF.
I, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT, TO BE VERY HONEST, THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT AT THIS COMMISSION.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROBLEM IF YOU'RE CLEANING UP IS IF, IF IT'S CLEANUP DURING A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, YOU HAVE A CAUSE TO TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR.
AND I, I, I HAVE, I HAVE PICTURES AND I HAVE, UH, I HAD TO CLEAN MY CAR LIKE EVERY, LIKE EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF THAT CONSTRUCTION GOING RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE.
AND NO ONE HAS BEEN, NO ONE CAME AND NO ONE TOLD ME ANYTHING ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION I KNEW.
AND NOW THAT I, I KNOW THAT THEY WERE GONNA CONSTRUCT NEXT TO ME.
THAT'S WHY IT'S A BIG CONCERN OVER MY YEAH.
WE, WE HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND, AND WE'RE SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY, COMMISSIONER, BUT I WANNA TAKE ACTION AND I, I COULD HEAR IT, BUT MR. LOPEZ, JUST A, AS SOMEBODY WHO KIND OF LIVES IN THE AREA AS WELL, YOU MAY WANNA CONSIDER, UM, 3 0 1 AS AN, UH, OPTION, BUT ALSO YOUR DISTRICT A REPRESENTATIVE.
I KNOW, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PECK'S, UH, TEAM IS TYPICALLY VERY RESPONSIVE WHEN CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, DEBRIS OR WHAT HAVE YOU IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY, THEY TEND TO ADDRESS IT.
SO YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT THAT OFFICE.
CAN LOPEZ, YOU GIMME THAT INFORMATION, HOW CAN INFORMATION ABOUT THAT? MR. LOPEZ? THIS IS STAFF.
I, WE'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION TO YOUR BROTHER AND THEN HE'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU.
I CHAIR, THIS IS JOHNSONVILLE.
I'VE ALSO PLACED MY INFORMATION ON THE CHAT, UH, SO THAT HE CAN ACCESS THAT INFORM.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON, UH, YOAKUM GARDENS? OKAY.
UM, SO STAFF, THIS IS A SHALL APPROVED ITEM THAT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 42.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS LISTED.
SINCE WE HAVE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION? CLARK.
IS THERE A SECOND? MA? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR PUBLIC HEARING SECTION.
[d. Subdivision Plats with Variance Requests (Aracely Rodriguez, Geoff Butler, Tammi Williamson, and Devin Crittle)]
D VARIANCES.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS ITEM WAS DEFERRED AT THE LAST TWO MEETINGS.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE CITY ALONG SHEPHERD AND DURHAM BETWEEN 26TH AND 27TH STREETS.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE FOR THE PURPOSE OF A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A VARIANCE TO CREATE 10 FOOT BUILDING LINES ALONG SHEPHERD AND DURHAM RATHER THAN THE REQUIRED 25 FEET STAFF HAS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE STUDY IS LOCATED ON A BLOCK BOUND BY MAJOR THOROUGHFARES TO THE EAST AND WEST.
THE STUDIES WITHIN THE MEMORIAL HEIGHTS TURS, WHICH PROPOSES PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG SHEPHERD IN DURHAM.
THE APPLICANT ASSERTS THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE TURS ENHANCEMENTS, AS WELL AS OTHER CITY POLICIES INTENDED TO ENCOURAGE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ACTIVITY.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL FEATURE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL ALONG SHEPHERD AND DURHAM WITH PARKING AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE UPPER FLOORS.
THIS WILL ENCOURAGE FIRST FLOOR ACTIVITY, MAKING A SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS, AS WELL AS MITIGATING ANY EFFECTS OF SITUATING THE BUILDING CLOSER TO THE STREET.
THIS WILL ACHIEVE A RESULT SIMILAR TO THOSE ENVISIONED BY THE CITY'S POLICIES TO ENCOURAGE PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
STAFF FINDS US TO THIS REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH SOUND PUBLIC POLICY, AS IS CONSISTENT WITH
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T AND CITY EFFORTS TO ENCOURAGE WALKABILITY.STAFF RECOMMENDS GRANT THE VARIANCE AND APPROVING THE PLAT PER THE CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
WE'VE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED WRITTEN COMMENT IN THIS ITEM.
THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MR. BUTLER? UM, OKAY, SO, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN, DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO'S HERE OR IN THE CHAT WHO WANTS TO SPEAK? NO.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM 1 28? HEARING NONE, UH, PARDON ME, MR. BALDWIN? YES.
WANNA POINT OUT THE COMMISSIONER CANNOT BE HEARD ON TEAMS? I, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT
I THINK FROM THE FIRST WEEK WE SAW IT UNTIL NOW.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK THERE.
UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE VARIANCES AND APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? SECOND.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN HOUSTON CITY LIMIT WITHIN ACRES HOME NORTH OF KEWELL ROAD AND EAST OF TC JESTER BOULEVARD.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 46 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT WITH A SHARED DRIVEWAY AND TYPE TWO PAE TWO VARIANCES ARE BEING REQUESTED.
ONE IS TO ALLOW A 15 FOOT EQUIVALENT INSTEAD OF 25 ALONG TWELL ROAD AND MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND SECOND TO NOT PROVIDE A NORTH SOUTH PUBLIC STREET THROUGH THE SITE.
THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THIS PLAT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BY NO NECK ONEE.
THE STAT RECOMMENDATION IS TO THE FURTHER PLA PER APPLICANT REQUEST.
STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS IN ADVANCE AND THEY CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. RODRIGUEZ? UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK NOBODY IN THE CHAT.
IF THERE'S NO ONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 29 AND THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER? MOTION? CLARK CLARK IS MODEST.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM ONE 30.
ITEM ONE 30 IS LODGE RESERVES.
THIS ITEM WAS DEFERRED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY ETJ, ALONG LODGE, NORTH OF THE GRAND PARKWAY.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SERIES OF UNRESTRICTED RESERVES.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING VARIANCES TO ALLOW THESE RESERVES TO UTILIZE AN EASEMENT FOR ACCESS AND TO NOT EXTEND A SUBSTRATE FROM THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS A SECOND DEFERRAL PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ON A TRACK EAST OF LOOP 4 94.
WITHOUT DIRECT PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY FRONTAGE, THE SITE IS JUST SOUTH OF AN UNNAMED SUB STREET.
THE TRACK TO THE SOUTH WAS RECENTLY PLATTED WITH A VARIANCE TO NOT PROVIDE A NORTH SOUTH STREET.
SO AN EXTENSION OF THE UNNAMED STREET WOULD NOT CROSS FAR BEYOND THE PLAT BOUNDARY.
AS AN ALTERNATIVE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SERIES OF UNRESTRICTED RESERVES ACCESSIBLE BY A 20 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT.
CONNECTING WITH LOOP 4 94 STAFF HAS EXPRESSED CONCERNS ON THE PROPOSED WIDTH OF THE ROADWAY AND COMPOSITION IS THE ME OF, EXCUSE ME, OF THIS MEANS OF ACCESS.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED DEFERRAL FOR MORE TIME TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DEFERRAL PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
WE'VE RECEIVED NO ADVANCE WRITTEN COMMENT AND THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
QUESTIONS FOR MR. BUTLER? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON LODGE RESERVES.
MR. WHAT, WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THE, UH, SECOND DEFERRAL? THEY'VE REQUESTED A SECOND DEFERRAL.
WE, WE'VE GIVEN THEM SOME INSTRUCTIONS OF, OF WHAT WE WOULD SUPPORT AND THEY'RE, THEY NEED A MORE TIME TO WORK ON THAT.
AND THIS IS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
IS THERE ANY, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER, IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER MOTION? HINES.
IS THERE A SECOND? CLARK? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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HELLO.THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN HOUSTON CITY LIMITS SOUTH ALONG MANSFIELD STREET, NORTH OF PAUL QUINN, AND EAST OF SEBER STREET AND ACRE HOME AREA.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 30 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, THREE RESERVES ALONG A PRIVATE STREET AND IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO EXCEED LOCAL INTERSECTION SPACING ALONG MANSFIELD STREET, BETWEEN SEBER STREET AND WHEATLEY STREET.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE PLAT FOR TWO WEEKS PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS FROM THIS ITEM.
AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
SO SORRY, MULTITASKING? YEAH, OF COURSE.
SO WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT YOUR MOTION
I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE CHAT ON 1 31? YOU DO WANNA SPEAK? OKAY.
UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE A SIGNUP SHEET FROM YOU.
DO YOU WANNA COME FOR I DON'T AND I REALLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY TWO ACRES OF OUR PROPERTY WAS RENAMED.
MY NAME IS BAH WILLIAMS PRICE.
OKAY, GO RIGHT AHEAD MS. PRICE.
I RECEIVED, UH, A LETTER FROM THE CITY OF HOUSTON SAYING THAT TWO OF THE ACRES THAT I OWN WILL BE LABELED MANSFIELD LIFE.
AND APPARENTLY WE ARE HERE TO WHO, GIVE SOMEONE WHO WANTS IT, USE OF IT OR WHATEVER, SELL IT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M HERE AND WHY WHAT THIS MEANS.
UM, UM, DO YOU HAVE THE LETTER WITH YOU THAT SAYS THAT YOU CAN, CAN MR. CRIDDLE, WILL YOU TAKE A, A LOOK? LET CLARIFY IF SHE OWNS THE RED BOX.
THIS, THIS SITE LOOK FAMILIAR.
IS THAT, WELL, I LOOKED AT ALL THE MAP, THE MAPS AND THINGS THAT CAME ALONG.
IT REALLY DIDN'T LOOK LIKE SO WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE.
IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE THE
WHERE'S MY HOUSE? RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
IT IT, IT'S MINE AND THEN ANOTHER HALF, AND THEN THOSE TWO, THESE TWO LOCKS HERE.
SO I THINK I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO YOU LIVE NEAR, SO YOU LIVE I LIVE NEXT TO IT.
SO THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR IS TRYING TO, TRYING TO DEVELOP, AND IT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE NOTIFY RESIDENTS, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP MY PROPERTY.
JUST, JUST THEIR PROPERTY, WHICH IS NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED ON, ON THE SCREEN.
SO THAT'S THE PROPERTY THEY'RE TRYING TO, UH, REDEVELOP THE ONE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN, IN RED.
WELL, WE'VE GOT SOME BAD INFO.
SO MS. PRICE, WE, WE SEND OUT A, UM, NOTICE LETTER, MS. PRICE LISTENING.
I'M REALLY TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT THIS IS.
WE SEND OUT A NOTICE LETTER TO EVERYBODY IN A, IN A RADIUS AROUND IT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A, SOMEBODY IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME INTEREST IN IF YOU'RE IN THE AREA, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE TAKING YOUR PROP.
NOBODY CAN TAKE YOUR PROPERTY AND USE YOUR PROPERTY.
WELL, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF, UH, WORKING AND BUILDING AROUND ME AND I NEVER GOT A LETTER LIKE THIS THAT I IDENTIFIED TWO ACRES OF MY PROPERTY.
UM, I NEED TO, SO I CAN GO HOME AND WHOEVER WANTS THIS DONE IT CAN DO WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO DO.
WE ARE GOING TO, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THIS FOR TWO WEEKS TO OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO THAT WILL MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA ACT ON IT PROBABLY TODAY.
SO I NEED TO WORK WITH SOMEONE HERE TO FIND YES, WE'LL GET MR. CRILE IN, IN TOUCH WITH YOU AND THEN I'M TRULY, TRULY GAME.
WE'LL FIGURE IT ALL OUT FOR YOU.
'CAUSE IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL.
WELL, WE'RE GLAD YOU CAME DOWN.
HEY, MS. PRICE, WE HAVE A COMMENT FOR YOU.
UH, THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS TO BUILD 30 AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH 30 UNITS NEXT TO ARE YOU NEXT? IT'S NOT AN APARTMENT.
MULTIFAMILY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE APARTMENTS.
YOU KNOW THE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE CONNECTED.
THERE'S A SITE PLAN, BUT IF I DON'T WANT THEY WANNA 30 UNITS NEXT TO YOU.
HOW CAN SOMEONE BILL ON SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T SAID AT SALE? IF YOU OWN IT, THEY WANT.
SO, SO, SO WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET WITH STAFF.
UH, STAFF IS GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
STAFF IS PLANNING, DEPARTMENT STAFF IS GONNA GIVE YOU THEIR INFORMATION SO THAT YOU COULD, UH, DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.
RIGHT? WE DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THE PROPERTY YOU OWN, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA VERIFY
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THAT.SO I'LL CLARIFY WHAT'S ON, ON.
I KNOW THIS IS VERY, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED AND SOMEWHAT ARCANE.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 31 MANSFIELD LIFE? UM, IF NOT, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE ITEM.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER MOTION? ABRAHAM? THANK YOU.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM 1 32 IS STARSHIP MILLSTONE RV RESORT.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN HOUSTON'S ETJ IN HARRIS COUNTY NORTH OF FM 1960 EAST OF HARDY TOLL ROAD AND WEST OF ALDEEN WESTFIELD ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN UNRESTRICTED RESERVE AND IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO EXCEED INTERSECTION SPACING BY NOT EXTENDING THE TWO PUBLIC STUB.
STREETS OF SILVER BIRCH DRIVE THROUGH THE SITE.
STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THEIR QUEST, WHICH IS A CHANGE OF RECOMMENDATION FROM WHAT IS PRINTED ON THE AGENDA.
IN 2014, THE SAME VARIANCE WAS GRANTED ON A GENERAL PLAN IN WHICH THE SUBJECT SECTION WAS LATER RECORDED.
THIS PROPOSED REPL IS REQUIRED TO READDRESS THE PREVIOUS VARIANCE DUE TO A CHANGE IN USE FROM COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE TO RV PARK.
THE SITE IS BOUNDED ON BOTH THE WEST AND EAST SIDES BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING NOT TO EXTEND NOR TERMINATE IN COL-DE-SAC.
THAT'S SUCH A FUNNY LEGAL THING.
THE TWO SUBST STREETS OF SILVER BIRCH DRIVE ON ITS EASTERN AND WESTERN BOUNDARIES, BUT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY FROM THE WESTERN STUBB STREET.
THE PRIMARY POINTS OF ACCESS WILL BE TO OLD WOODS LANE AND MILLSTONE DRIVE TO THE SOUTH WITH CYPRESS CREEK AND HARRIS COUNTY'S MERCER BOTANIC GARDENS AND ARBORETUM SPANNING MOST OF THE LAND BETWEEN HARDY AND ALD WESTFIELD.
FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS NORTH OF THE SITE IS UNLIKELY AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING THE SITE HAVE GOOD CONNECTIVITY FOR TRAFFIC CIRCULATION WITH MULTIPLE POINTS OF AC ACCESS TO MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
ALSO, THERE IS A FUTURE EAST WEST CONNECTION WITH OLD WOODS LANE AT THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND FEET FROM SILVER BIRCH.
THERE IS AN EXISTING TRAIL NETWORK WITHIN THE MERCER BOTANIC GARDEN SITE THAT EXTENDS NEAR THE NORTHERN PLAT BOUNDARY.
WARRINGTON PARK SUBDIVISION PROVIDES A PUBLIC ACCESS POINT THROUGH THEIR COMPENSATING OPEN SPACE.
THIS DEVELOPMENT IS LIKEWISE PROPOSING A SIDEWALK CONNECTION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, A FIVE FOOT PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY BE PROVIDED TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK WITHIN THE BOTANIC GARDEN SITE.
PENDING COORDINATION WITH HARRIS COUNTY'S, HARRIS COUNTY PRECINCT ONE.
HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THROUGH REQUESTED VARIANCE AND APPROVE THE PLAT SUBJECT TO CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS AND STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THIS CONCLUDES PRESENTATION A THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM MS. WILLIAMSON? UM, DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE CHAT? I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 32 STARSHIP MILLSTONE RV RESORT? I, UH, I HAVE A COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN, I'M STILL UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN WE DON'T KNOW THIS UNTIL WE'RE VOTING ON ITEM 1 32.
WE SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS, THAT THAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS GONNA CHANGE EARLY IN THE MEETING THERE.
WE DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE WAS GONNA WEIGH IN AND THEN LEFT AFTER THEY GOT HERE.
SO I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST, IT'S NOT THAT I'M AGAINST THE STAFF STILL, I'M JUST AGAINST NOTIFYING, CHANGING THE RECOMMENDATION AT FOUR O'CLOCK WHEN I THOUGHT, I KNOW WE SHOULD HAVE NOTED THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
WE DO BECAUSE WE ALWAYS WORRY THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SPEAKERS WHO DECIDED NOT TO COME TODAY.
UM, BUT LET ME JUST GET THE BALANCE.
HAVE WE HAD ANY PUBLIC INTEREST OR LETTERS OR NO, ANY COMMUNICATION ON THIS? PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DEFER UP UNTIL 20 MINUTES BEFORE THE MEETING BECAUSE PRECINCT ONE WAS ACTUALLY REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE MUD, UM, JUST TO GET THEIR POSITIONS ON THINGS AS FAR AS WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD FROM OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH HARRIS COUNTY.
AND WE THINK, DO WE KNOW THAT PRECINCT ONE DID PRECINCT ONE SAY IT'S FINE.
SO WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL RESPONSE BEFORE THE MEETING THAT THEY ARE GOOD TO PROCEED.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE YOU'VE GOT SOME OBJECTIONS REGISTERED HERE AND
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TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT FOR THE FUTURE.IT IS A VALID REQUEST, BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE THEY PROBABLY DO WANT TO GO FORWARD.
SO, UM, ANY ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, COMMISSIONERS SINCE WE'RE ALL HERE AROUND THE TABLE, WE CAN CHAT ABOUT THIS
COMMISSIONER CLARK? I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BALDWIN TYPICALLY ON THESE ITEMS. UM, I DON'T LIKE TO CHANGE THE RECOMMENDATION AFTER THE MEETING EITHER OR EVEN RIGHT BEFORE IT, BUT THERE'S BEEN NO LETTERS OF PROTEST.
NO ONE'S COMMENTED, NO ONE'S QUESTIONED.
NO ONE'S CALLED STAFF, NO ONE'S HERE, NO ONE'S ONLINE.
PRECINCT ONE HAS INDICATED IN WRITING THAT THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF IT.
SO I I JUST THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL ON THIS SUBMITTAL.
SO WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD A PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH IF WE WERE GONNA HAVE COMMENTS AND OBJECTIONS, WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE HEARD.
UM, DOES THAT SOUND OKAY TO YOU, COMMISSIONER SMITH? IT DOES.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS TO GRANT AND APPROVE.
UM, IS THERE A SECOND? CLARK? UH, CLARK.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? THEN NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER BALDWIN VOTED NO.
UM, OKAY, THAT WILL CONCLUDE VARIANCES AND WE MOVE TO SECTION
[e. Subdivision Plats with Special Exception Requests (John Cedillo)]
E.MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER KANE.
I WANNA BE LEAVING THE MEETING.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW.
NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER KANE WILL BE LEAVING.
THE SUBJECT SIDE IS 11.7 ACRE PROPERTY IN THE HARRIS COUNTY EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION NORTH OF GRANT ROAD AND EAST ALONG TOGI ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WITH MULTIPLE RESERVES, INCLUDING COMPENSATING OPEN SPACE WITH 50 FOOT WIDE PUBLIC STREETS AND IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO EXCEED 2,600 INTERSECTION SPACING ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE TELL ROAD STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE PLAT WAS DEFERRED LAST CYCLE TO ADDRESS VARIANCE LANGUAGE AND TO BRING THE COS RESERVE FURTHER INTO COMPLIANCE PER CHAPTER 42 REQUIREMENTS.
INTERSECTION SPACING ALONG MAJOR THOROUGHFARES IS TO NOT EXCEED 2,600 FEET.
THE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONAL REQUEST IS TO ALLOW INTERSECTION SPACING OF 28 60, A 10% DEVIATION FROM THE STANDARD AND IS NOT DISPROPORTIONATE TO CHAPTER 42 REQUIREMENTS.
THE PROPOSED PLAT STILL PROVIDES SUFFICIENT CONNECTIVITY AND PROVIDING INTERSECTION WITHIN THE 260 FOOT, UH, SORRY, 2,600 FOOT MARK WOULD BE IMP PRACTICAL AS THE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED WITHIN THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN.
CONSTRUCTING THE RIGHT OF WAY FURTHER NORTH OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN IS SOUND PUBLIC POLICY AND ENSURES A STRONGER RIGHT OF WAY NETWORK.
THERE HAS BEEN NO ADVANCED COMMENTS FOR THIS APPLICATION AND THE HARRIS COUNTY ENGINEER HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THE A TO THE REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT AND APPROVE THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND APPROVE THE PLA SUBJECT CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CILLO? FIRST STOP.
UM, SO THIS, THIS MAP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE FLOODPLAINS, THE, THE LIGHT BLUE IS THE 100 YEAR AND THE DARK BLUE IS THE FLOODWAY.
CORRECT? ACTUALLY, YOU, YOU, UH, IT IS HARD TO SEE IF THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE HERE.
THERE'S THE BLUE THAT YOU CAN SEE TOUCHING THE PROPERTY.
THE DARK BLUE, THERE'S THE FLOODWAY, AND THEN THIS KIND OF FADED BLUE UP HERE TO THE NORTH IS ACTUALLY OH, I SEE, I SEE, I SEE ABOUT 500 HERE.
OKAY, SO, SO THE LIGHT, SO THE, THIS THIS UH, THIS COLOR, THIS SHADING COLOR THAT GOES THROUGH THISTLE DOWN IS THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN? CORRECT.
NO, THAT'S THE 500 YEAR YEAR I THOUGHT.
ARE WE RIGHT? NO, IT IS THE ONE WHEN I LOOK AT IT ON OUR MAP, YEAH, IT'S 100.
CAN WE HAVE, CAN WE HAVE THESE MAPS KEYED OUT SO THAT WE CAN TELL YOU? SO THE, YOU, YOU WANT LIKE A KEY THAT SAYS BLUE IS, UM, DO WE ALWAYS DO IT THE SAME WAY? 500.
MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A PAGE THAT YOU WOULD STICK IN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA THAT HAS THAT WHAT THEY ARE.
I, YOU KIND OF GET TO KNOW IF YOU LOOK AND AT ENOUGH OF 'EM AFTER A WHILE.
UM, BUT I, I CAN SEE WHERE THAT'D BE CONFUSING IF YOU DON'T LOOK AT THEM EVERY WEEK.
SO, UM, YEAH, WE COULD WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.
ANY OTHER, UM, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON TGE ROAD TRACK? NOBODY IN THE CHAT.
UM, THEN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE VARIANCE AND APPROVE THE PLAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION
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JONES? MODEST.AND WE ARE FLYING THROUGH THIS TO SECTION F
[f. Reconsiderations of Requirement (Geoff Butler)]
RECONSIDERATION OF REQUIREMENTS.THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HARRIS COUNTY ETJ, SOUTH OF LUTA AND WEST OF INTERSTATE 45.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SUBDIVISION OF 49 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG PUBLIC STREETS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING RECONSIDERATION OF THE REQUIREMENT TO COMPLY WITH INTERSECTION SPACING STANDARDS BY NOT EXTENDING A SUBSTRATE THROUGH THIS OTHER BOUNDARY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DEFERRAL FOR FURTHER STUDY AND REVIEW.
STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO ADVANCED WRITTEN COMMENT AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I DON'T HAVE ANYONE.
IF NO ONE WISHES TO SPEAK ON 1 34 STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER.
UM, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION? I I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
GO AHEAD, AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.
IT'S ALSO ON THE, IT'S ALSO ON THE, ON THE PREVIOUS ONE AS WELL.
UM, I, I LIKE TO SEE CONNECTIVITY AND I LIKE TO SEE THAT MAINTAINED.
UM, AND I, I, I THINK OUR CITY DOES AS WELL.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS CONSIDERING IN ALLOWING THEM TO DEVIATE FROM, FROM THIS CONNECTIVITY? WELL, THAT'S JUST THE THING.
WE, WE REQUESTED TO MEET WITH THEM DURING THE DEFERRAL PERIOD TO GET THEM TO CLARIFY WHY THAT CONNECTION CANNOT BE MADE.
BECAUSE YOU WANNA MAINTAIN THE CONNECTIVITY, RIGHT? OKAY.
YEAH, THEY PROBABLY WANT, THAT'S OKAY.
SO I'LL, I'LL MOTION FOR THE OKAY.
THE EXTENSION SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DEFER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND MODEST? UM, I'M SORRY.
NOW I SHOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANYONE OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
WHO MADE THE MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I'M SORRY.
IT IS ABRAHAM AND THANK YOU MA.
1 35 ITEM 1 35 IS PARK AT PINE MOUNT.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN HOUSTON'S CORPORATE LIMIT ALONG RENA STREET, EAST OF BENGAL, NORTH OF PINE MOUNT.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SUBDIVISION OF 50 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG TYPE TWO PAES.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING RECONSIDERATION OF THE REQUIREMENT TO DEDICATE FIVE FEET OF WIDENING TO RENA STREET, A 50 FOOT WIDE RIGHT OF WAY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DEFERRAL PER THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S REQUEST.
STAFF HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS ADVANCED WRITTEN COMMENTS IN THIS ITEM NOTING TRAFFIC, CIRCULATION AND ACCESS CHALLENGES TO THE SITE.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
AH, WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW SPEAKERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BUTLER BEFORE WE GET STARTED? UM, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS WILLIAM DALK.
I'M A 32 YEAR RESIDENT OF RENA STREET.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK NOT ABOUT THE WIDTH OF RENA STREET, BUT THE SPEED ON RENA STREET.
MY PET ISSUE TRAFFIC MOVES TOO FAST ON ARBOR VITA IN RITA FOR SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR, FIVE TO SIX DAYS A WEEK BECAUSE OF THE SPORTS TRAFFIC FROM OAK DAD'S FIELD THAT ARE AT THE DEAD END AT THE END OF RENA.
NOW THE PLAN IS TO ADD 50 OR MORE HOMES, WHICH MEANS A HUNDRED OR MORE CARS AND THEIR FRIENDS ACROSS FROM THE FIELDS WITH NO OTHER ACCESS THAN ARBOR, BYTA AND RENA STREET.
IF YOU DRIVE DOWN A RESIDENTIAL STREET, IT'S HARD TO GET YOURSELF TO GO ABOVE 25 AND FEEL LIKE IT'S SAFE.
I'VE BEEN TO OAKS DADS WITH VARYING RESPONSE.
I DO BELIEVE THEY ARE FOR IMPROVED ACCESS THEMSELVES.
I DO KNOW THAT MOST OFFICIALS THAT I'VE TALKED TO AT OAK DADS, IF I ASKED IF I DROVE OVER 30 MILES AN HOUR IN OAK FOREST, THEY'D AGREED I'D BE PICKED UP REALLY QUICK.
THEY WILL NOT TAKE IT OVER 40 MILES AN HOUR.
I'M SURE THIS IS BUREAUCRATIC.
I'M SURE THEIR HANDS ARE TIED FOR SOME REASON I SUPPORT THE POLICE.
BUT A HUNDRED MORE CARS AT THESE SPEEDS BRINGS MORE DANGER.
UH, I'VE BEEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL RIGHT AFTER THAT, THE PAST, MY CO PAST COUNCIL MEMBER AND I GOT THE OBLIGATORY TRY A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS SEEMED KIND OF BUREAUCRATIC AFTER MY VISIT WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
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FOR YEARS WHEN IT WAS AT THE END OF RAINER STREET AND I COACHED SOCCER AT CLIFTON MIDDLE SCHOOL.BLOCKING OFF RAINA WOULD BE OUR BEST OPTION, MINUS THIS.
WE DO NEED MORE ACCESS FROM PINE MO AND CERTAINLY ADDED SAFETY MEASURES TO MITIGATE THE DANGERS ON OUR BRAVADA AND ARENA TIME.
UM, MR. PECK, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE REST OF THE SPEAKERS AND THEN WE MAY HAVE SOME OTHER, UH, CALL YOU BACK FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JAMES MATTERN, M-A-T-T-E-R-N.
I LIVE ON RENA STREET NEXT TO THE PROPOSED PROPERTY.
I I'VE LIVED IN FOREST WEST FOR 40 YEARS.
FOREST WEST HAS ABOUT 600 HOUSES IN IT AND IT HAS FOUR ACCESSES TO EXIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ALSO HAVE A BALLPARK IN ADDITION TO THE HOUSES THAT NUMBERS UP TO A HUNDRED CARS A DAY.
THERE'S, UH, SEVERAL ROADS, LUMBER DEAL AND LOCK FIELD LUMBER DEAL HAS A, A TRAFFIC LIGHT ON PINE MOUNT FOR FEDERAL PLAZA ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH COULD BE UTILIZED AS AN EXIT LOCK FIELD.
HAS THE, THE ESPLANADE CUT OUT, UH, WITHOUT, UH, THESE EXITS BEING OPEN, PEOPLE WOULD'VE TO TRAVEL DOWN RENA AND TURN RIGHT ON ARBOR VA TO GET TO PINE MOUNT.
AND WHEN THEY GET TO PINE MINDERS, NO.
LIKE THERE AND THE, THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP ALREADY IF YOU ADD SOME MORE CARS.
SO A LOT OF THE CARS WOULD TURN LEFT ON ARBOR VATA AND CUT THROUGH TO THE NEXT EXIT ON, UH, DEEP FOREST.
BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO DRIVE BACK LEFTON MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH IN THE MORNINGS WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WORK, KIDS ARE LETTING THEIR SCHOOL KIDS OUT OF THEIR CAR THERE AND THEY'RE PARKING ON THE STREET RATHER THAN PULLING OVER ON THE CURB BECAUSE THE PARKING LOT IS FULL.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH EXACT, UH, OBJECTION TO THE VARIABLE, BUT I JUST THINK WITH BUILDING 51 NEW HOUSES THERE AND NOT HAVING NO OTHER ACCESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'D BE OVERLOADING ARENA STREET, WHICH WOULD IN TURN WOULD REROUTE TRAFFIC TO OTHER PARTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN FRONT OF SCHOOLS.
AND IT'D BE A BIG SAFETY HAZARD.
THAT'S ABOUT WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SMITH.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PICTURE, UH, AERIAL PHOTO THERE.
HELP, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE WHAT'S ON THE GROUND THERE.
I SEE THE SUBDIVISION TO THE RIGHT OR TO THE EAST, UH, WHICH IS THE CITY STREET IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, YOU'RE LOOKING, LET ME RAYNA, I LIVE ON REYNA.
REYNA IS THE STREET THAT LINES UP WITH A NORTHERN PART OF RECTANGLE.
AND THEN THERE'S A BALLPARK ACROSS THE STREET.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S WEEDS, WHICH I'VE BEEN REPORTING TO THE CITY.
AND IF NO, SO, SO HERE'S MY QUESTION, SIR, SIR, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER MAP THAT GETS INTO A MUCH CLOSER LOOK AT THIS CORNER.
AND THE VARIANCE THAT'S BEING SUGGESTED IS, IS ALONG THAT NORTHERN BORDER OF THE RED SQUARE.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW THE ROAD ITSELF, UH, CHANGES NEXT TO THE HOUSES THERE? UH, I ASSUME IT'S A STANDARD 28 FOOT CITY STREET MAYBE WITH, YOU KNOW, UTILITY ON YOUR SIDE.
DOES IT TRANSITION TO A DRIVEWAY, A GRAVEL ROAD? I CAN'T TELL FROM THE PICTURE.
WELL, I THINK THEY PAVED IT AT ONE POINT.
IT'S CEMENT, BUT IT'S, IT'S LIKE A, MAYBE IF WE'RE A 28 FOOT ROAD, IT'S A 20 FOOT ROAD, TWO CARS CAN GO DOWN AND IT'S CEMENT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT.
THERE WE ARE, THERE'S A ROAD THERE.
THERE'S MY CAR RIGHT THERE ON THE RIGHT
THIS FIELD, THIS PICTURE IS TAKEN WHEN IT'S MOWED, IT'S OVERGROWN NOW.
BUT THIS PROPOSED ON THE CITY FLAT RIGHT HERE WOULD BE LUMBER STREET.
AND WHEN THEY BUILD THAT ADDITION, THEY WOULD ONLY BE A BLOCK FROM PINE MOUNT AND I'M SURELY 51 HOUSES AT A MINIMUM OF $4,000 A YEAR IN TAXES.
THE CITY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO UN, I MEAN, UH, UN LEASE ENOUGH MONEY THAT THEY COULD PUT IN A ROAD.
I MEAN, OR THE OTHER STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PROPOSED HOUSES IS A LIGHT FIELD AND IT'S ONLY GONNA BE A BLOCK OR TWO AWAY.
FROM PINE, GLAD YOU'RE VERY GLAD YOU'RE HERE TODAY.
WE'VE, WE'VE, I HAVE A CRYSTAL CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE RIGHT THERE NOW.
WELL, I COULD TELL YOU 42 YEARS
AND, AND THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY BAD WITH JUST THE BALLPARK.
THEY'VE HAD TIMES BEFORE WHERE I COULDN'T GET OUTTA MY DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T OPEN UP THE PARK
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AND THE TRAFFIC BOX ALL THE WAY DOWN TO A STREET TO THE EAST ARBOR VITA.AND PEOPLE, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY WAIT ON PEOPLE TO UNLOCK THE PARK, THEY BLOCKED YOUR DRIVEWAYS ALREADY.
AND SO THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE ADDING 51 HOUSES ON TOP OF THIS BAD SITUATION.
WE'RE GONNA, I THINK WE'RE GONNA DEFER THIS FOR A COUPLE WEEKS TO LOOK INTO, INTO SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
SO WE APPRECIATE YOU, YOU ALL BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.
UM, AND I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER.
MR. ENGR, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
HI, UH, MY NAME IS KEVIN ENGR AND I LIVE ON LEAF ARBOR AND ARBOR ON THE CORNER.
AND I REITERATE WHAT THE PREVIOUS TWO GENTLEMEN SAID ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
UM, WE HAVE WITNESSED CARS GOING DOWN ARBOR AT SPEEDS OF EXCESS OF 60 MILES AN HOUR.
UH, WE HAVE A NEW GRANDSON AND IT'S PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ALLOW HIM TO PLAY ON THIS THE YARD, UH, WITH THAT DANGER.
THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO BRING UP IS, UM, MAYBE THEY COULD SHOW THAT PICTURE ONCE MORE OF THE STREET.
WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT? THE ONE OF THE STREET THAT THIS GENTLEMAN, CAN WE SEE THE PHOTOGRAPH OF THE STREET? YEAH.
THAT ONE I'VE WITNESSED, UH, EVEN THROUGH HARVEY AND THROUGH A STORM THAT WE HAD JUST THIS PAST FEBRUARY THAT ALL OF THE WATER FROM THE SOCCER FIELD.
CAN I ASK YOU TO TALK RIGHT INTO THE MIC? 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T TROUBLE HEARING THAT.
UH, I'VE WITNESSED THE WATER THAT COMES FROM THOSE TWO FIELDS GOING INTO THE CULVERTS END UP CHANNELING DOWN THE SEWER OF RENA.
WE HAVE HAD FLOODING ON ARBOR VIAE AND BROWN BARK, WHICH IS THE STREET SOUTH OF ME AND LEAF ARBOR AND RENA ALONG ARBOR VIAE DURING AS LITTLE AS TWO INCHES OF RAIN FALLING, FOR EXAMPLE, IN AN HOUR.
AND A LOT OF THIS WATER COMES FROM THIS FIELD.
THOSE CULVERTS COMPLETELY ARE FLOODED OVER AND IT, IT TAKES UP THE FLOW DOWN ARENA AND ARBORVITAE OF THE MAIN CHANNEL OF THE SEWER SO THAT THEREFORE BROWN BARK AND LEAF ARBOR FLOOD.
YEAH, I CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE CONCERNED.
SO THAT'S A MAJOR CONCERN OF 50 HOMES COME IN HERE AND THAT WATER ALSO IS CHANNELED DOWN ARENAS AND YEAH.
AND BECAUSE THIS IS A LARGE DEVELOPMENT, THERE WILL BE CONSIDERABLE REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM TO, YOU KNOW, RETAIN WATER OR DIVERT IT OR WHATEVER THEY DO THAT'LL BE DONE, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD IN THE PERMITTING STAGE.
BUT RECENTLY THERE WAS A FIRE AT THIS HOUSE TIME.
YEAH, THERE WAS A FIRE THERE AND THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES HAD A HECK OF A TIME GETTING IN THERE.
WELL, APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THESE TO OUR ATTENTION.
I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, UH, FOR THE GENTLEMAN.
UM, CAN I GO AHEAD AND CALL THE REST OF THE SPEAKERS AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL QUESTION 'EM.
UH, ACTUALLY, SO, SO I'M WONDERING IF THEY KNOW THIS WHAT THIS SPEAKER, MR. ENGLER? YEAH, SIR.
I'M, I'M WONDERING IF THEY KNOW THAT THE, THIS PROPERTY IS GONNA JUST HAVE ONE ACCESS AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE WEST? IT LOOKS LIKE OUR WESTERN SITE, IS IT, IS IT A DEAD END OR DOES IT CONTINUE? LET ME JUST HEAR THE SPEAKERS GET THAT DONE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION.
THE NEXT SPEAKER I THINK IS, UH OH NO, LEE EDWARDS IS MR. EDWARDS HERE.
UH, YEAH, I ACTUALLY SENT IN AN EMAIL, UH, DESCRIBING SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT OPENING UP RENA STREET FOR THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD CAUSE, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH WOULD BE INCREASED TRAFFIC AND DANGER TO THE CHILDREN AT THE BALLPARK.
AND THE CHILDREN THAT WALK TO CLIFTON FROM CLIFTON TO THE LIBRARY IN THE AFTERNOONS.
THERE'S REALLY NO REASON THAT THE DEVELOPER COULDN'T COMPLETE LOCK FIELD AND USE LOCK FIELD AS THE ONLY ENTRANCE AND EXIT INTO THIS NEW SUBDIVISION JUST AS THEY DID AT PINE MOUNT PARK, WHICH IS JUST ACROSS PINE MOUNT FROM US.
THEY HAD 160 HOMES IN PINE PARK WITH ONE ENTRANCE AND EXIT WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. BUT INCREASING THE TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS GONNA DO NOTHING BUT PUT OUR CHILDREN IN DANGER.
THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION AND WE'LL, IF, IF WE DEFER THIS, WHICH I THINK WE WILL, UM, BECAUSE A COUNCIL MEMBER HAS REQUESTED IT, UM, WE CAN, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN
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DISCUSS IN THE INTERIM.ANY QUESTIONS FROM MS. EDWARDS? UH, OUR NEXT SPEAKER THEN IS SEAN JZ.
MADAM SPEAKER, THIS IS SEAN JZ.
I REPRESENT THE OAKS DADS CLUB, WHICH IS THE BALLPARK NORTH ON THE NORTH SIDE OF REYNA.
UM, I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER OR THE APPLICANT HERE, UM, IN THEIR STATEMENT OF FACTS, IN ORDER TO, FOR THIS COMMISSION TO GRANT THEIR VARIANCE, MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE NOT TRUE, UM, AS CHAPTER 42, 1 22 REQUIRES A 60 FOOT, UH, RIGHT OF WAY TO BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC STREETS, THEY MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE THAT THE OAKS DADS CLUB BALL FIELD WILL NO LONGER BE A BALL FIELD AND WILL BE USED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
UM, I WOULD LET THEM KNOW AT THIS POINT THAT THAT WILL, THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE OR EVER, THAT PROPERTY WILL SHALL REMAIN A BALL FIELD FOR THE CHILDREN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OAK FOREST AND GARDEN OAKS AREA, UM, FOR THE INDEFINITE FUTURE.
AND SO THERE ARE ASSUMPTIONS THAT THIS WILL BE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PLA AT SOME POINT IS INCORRECT.
UM, SO ADDITIONALLY I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO KIND OF PARROT WHAT THE OTHER SPEAKER SAID.
I BELIEVE THAT THE MOST LOGICAL THING FOR THE CITY TO DO IS TO REQUIRE THE APPLICANT HERE TO, UH, HAVE THE LUMBER DE STREET IMPROVED THAT WOULD INCREASE ACCESS BOTH FOR THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HERE AND FOR THE OAKS DADS CLUB.
AND WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ALLEVIATING THE TRAFFIC PATTERN THROUGH THE FOREST WEST NEIGHBORHOOD, THEREBY ALLOWING OR REDUCING THE RISK OF ACCIDENTS OR TRAFFIC FLOW IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I KNOW THAT THE, THAT THE COMMISSION IS DEFERRING THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
UM, IS THE, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? DO WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT? THEY MAY BE ON THE CHAT.
UM, I I WOULD THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE SPOKEN UP IF THEY WERE HERE.
SO, UM, LET ME ASK IF THERE'S ANY, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? 1 35 PARK AT PINE MOUNT.
UM, OKAY THEN LET'S, LET US, LET THE COMMISSION, UH, DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT.
COMMISSIONER ABRAHAM, DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTIONS NOW? UH, I, UH, NO, I, I ACTUALLY, UH, JUST DID COMMISSIONER BALDWIN ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS BRIEFLY, JEFF, I'M CURIOUS, NORTH OF THIS TRACK WHERE IT SAYS ROSLYN EDITION, IS THAT RE PLATTED INTO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES? I MEAN, IT SHOWS IT ON THE MAP RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN.
THEY'RE THE ORIGINAL LOTS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN RE PLATTED INTO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THAT'S THE BALL FIELD THAT'S NORTH OF, OF RANCH.
I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE, BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN PLATTED AS A BALL FIELD, BUT STILL, OH, IT'S PLATTED AS SINGLE FAMILY.
IT'S NEVER, IT'S ONE OF THOSE ANTIQUATED PLATS, MOST LIKELY A VERY OLD SUBDIVISION THERE THERE'S NO USE RESTRICTION.
SO, BUT THERE, THERE WOULD BE NO REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO REPL WOULD THERE IF THEY'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING? NO.
UNLESS THEY BUILDING A BUILDING.
COMMISSIONER SMITH WANTS TO SPEAK MR. BUTLER.
UH, I ASKED ONE GENTLEMAN ABOUT THE ROAD.
I HEARD FROM THE, UH, GENTLEMAN REPRESENTING THE BALL FIELDS THAT, THAT, UH, THEY DON'T INTEND.
UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT SEEMS CENTRAL TO THE VARIANCE, WHICH IS RELATED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH ON THE NORTH EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY IS THE, THE CURRENT, UH, RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE EAST WEST ROAD ALONG THAT BORDER.
UM, LOOKING AT THE AERIAL PHOTO, IT, IT, IT SORT OF LOOKS LIKE THE CITY MAINTENANCE WOULD STOP AT THE SUBDIVISION EDGE.
UH, AND THEN THE, THE, UM, MAINTENANCE OF THE BALL FIELD ROAD, WHICH IS ITS ONLY CURRENT USE WOULD BE BY THE BALL FIELD.
I, I THINK SOME MORE INFORMATION FOR US ON WHAT HISTORICALLY THE PURPOSE OF THAT ROAD IS, UH, WOULD BE, WOULD BE USEFUL.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE ROAD CUTS THE CORNER OF THE PLAT BOUNDARY HERE.
THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE ASKED FOR DURING THE DEFERRAL PERIOD FOR THEM TO SPECIFY HOW THEY BEEN PLANNED TO IMPROVE THAT ROAD.
AND BECAUSE OF COURSE, PART OF IT NOW THE PAVEMENT CLIPS THROUGH THEIR, THEIR BOUNDARIES, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO REALIGN THAT.
WHICH KINDA LEADS TO MY NEXT, UH, I GUESS PIECE OF ADVICE IS THAT THAT WILL BRING IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WHO ALSO HAS CONSIDERATIONS OF TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC CALMING WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION.
PERHAPS THEY'RE BEING PART OF THE DISCUSSION, UH, DURING THIS PERIOD, WOULD, UM, GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS WE'VE HEARD.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER MA? UM, AND THEN RENA TO THE EAST OF 11TH IS ALREADY AT 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY, OR IT'S 50 OR 60? IT'S OKAY.
IT LOOK, UM, VISUALLY IT LOOKS A BIT BETTER.
UM, I'LL JUST GO ON THE, THE RECORD OF SAYING WHEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
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ACQUIRE RIGHT AWAY, WE SHOULD NEVER GIVE THAT UP.UM, ESPECIALLY IN CONGESTED, UM, RIGHT AWAY SUCH AS 50 FOOT.
AND ALTHOUGH WE SAY NEVER WILL BE REPLANTED, WE'VE SEEN IN THIS MEETING ALONE THAT THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD NEVER BE, HAVE COME BACK FOR RE PLATING.
SO, UM, I I WOULD PERSONALLY BE OPPOSED TO A VARIANCE THAT DIDN'T, UM, REQUIRE THEM TO GIVE US A FIVE FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR AND MR. BUTLER, UM, THE, I SEE THAT THIS IS AT THE DEFERRAL IS AT THE REQUEST OF THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
UM, AND THEIR PLAN, WHAT'S THEIR PLAN DURING THIS INTERIM? THEY WOULD LIKE SO THAT THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT CONTACTED THEM SO THAT THEY WOULD LIKE MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE MATERIALS AND WE'LL NEED TO GET ADDITIONAL MATERIALS FROM THE APPLICANT.
SO THEY'LL NEED TO BE MORE TIME FOR THEM TO PRODUCE THAT AND FOR EVERYONE TO REVIEW THEM.
IS THERE ANY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COUNCIL? WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE ASKED THE A, THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE, OH, WE'LL ASK YOU TO COME FORWARD.
JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
KATE DENTLER, COUNCIL MEMBER ABBY CAYMAN'S, OFFICE DISTRICT C BECAUSE THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT DOESN'T OWN PROPERTY WITHIN THIS AREA.
THEY DIDN'T RE RECEIVE NOTIFICATION, SO THEY JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THE APPLICATION.
SO WE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW AND, UM, SPEAK WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WHICH THEY HAD.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING YOURSELF AVAILABLE AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO LEARN MORE AND FOR US TO FURTHER ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THIS.
COMMISSIONER HINES, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, ALL THIS WILL HAPPEN.
UM, AND ALL THIS WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, ARE DOING OUR BEST TO LIAISE WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS.
AND, AND, AND I THINK WE, WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO TRY TO GET THE APPLICANT TO, UH, COMMUNICATE WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE SPOKEN TODAY TO YES.
AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, I THINK TOLD ME THAT THEY ENCOURAGED THE, UM, DEVELOPER TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL DURING THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER ROSENBERG, MR. BUTLER.
DID I, UH, MISS, UH, ANYTHING ABOUT, IS THERE A PLAN FOR THE CITY THAT WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY REYNA GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO BINGLE? I GUESS SO.
REYNA ACTUALLY JUST WEST OF THIS TRACT HAS BEEN ABANDONED, HAS ACTUALLY BEEN REDEVELOPED.
UH, BUT THERE ARE NO CURRENT PLANS FOR THE CITY TO IMPROVE THE, THE OTHER STREETS POPPY OR, OR LOCK FIELD EITHER.
COMMISSIONER CLARK? YEAH, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT MAYBE, UM, IN THE CHAT WE PROVIDE THE, UM, APPLICANT'S CONTACT INFO ALONG WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S CONTACT INFO AND MAYBE WE CAN HELP, UH, THE NEIGHBORS GET IN TOUCH WITH BOTH OF THESE, UH, FOLKS AND THAT MAY HELP EXPEDITE THEIR COMMUNICATION.
IT'S ANYTHING ELSE MR. BUTLER HAD HAD IN THE, IN THE FIRST WEEK HERE, DID, HAD, WAS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OF AN ALTERNATE CONNECTION, ALTERNATE ACCESS FOR THIS OR, SO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, WE, WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE APPLICANT LONG BEFORE THIS PLAT.
THERE'S BEEN OTHER PLATS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED IN A A JR, SEVERAL, A COUPLE JRC APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.
UM, RIGHT NOW OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE, THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO GET A KIND OF A CITY DEVELOPER, UH, PARTNERSHIP TO, TO BUILD ANY OF THE STREETS, BUT THAT'S NOT BEEN FINALIZED AND THE APPLICANT HAS DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.
AND, AND THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT IS THE FACT THAT MOST ROADS, MOST LOCAL STREETS IN HOUSTON ARE BUILT BY DEVELOPERS.
THEY'RE NOT THE CITY VARY INFREQUENTLY BUILDS A ROAD THAT HAPPENS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANT DEVELOPMENT IS TO, TO BUILD THOSE ROADS AND HELP OUR MOBILITY.
BUT, UM, THE, I I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO BE HONEST ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CITY IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BUILD A ROAD ANYWHERE.
AND SO THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
SO, UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? OH, OKAY.
I THINK I'VE ALREADY, BUT I'M GONNA ASK MY NOWHERE DID I TAKE A PICTURE? OKAY.
THAT, THAT ALL HERE COME, COME FORWARD SINCE WE HAVE A SHORT MEETING HERE, JAMES.
I I DIDN'T SEE A RETENTION POND AND SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT RENA.
RENA USED TO BE PLOTTED TO GO THROUGH THE BENGAL, BUT ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO AT THE SAME HALL, THEY UH, THEY THEY DID IT TO WHERE IT STOPS AT THE LOCK FIELD STREET 'CAUSE IT WAS GONNA BUILD SOME OFFICE
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WAREHOUSES.WELL, THE PLAN NEVER WENT THROUGH AND IT'S STILL OPEN, BUT IT'S BEEN TAKEN OFF OF THE PLAT, THE CITY PLATTE.
SO IT GOES THROUGH THE LOCKWOOD AND IT ONLY RUNS EAST.
YEAH, IT WAS ABANDONED, WASN'T IT? IT WAS A, IT WAS ABANDONED BY THE JOINT REFERRAL COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A BIG PROCESS, BUT RIGHT.
SO THAT'S, IT'S NO LONGER A STREET.
SO IT'S, I DON'T, IT'S NOT ON THE PLOT NO MORE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY OR IF YOU COULD GET IT OR WHAT, BUT IT'S, UH, AND THE RETENTION POND THAT I JUST WANT TO GET TOO WORDS.
YEAH, AND IT'S, I I, I SAID TO UM, UH, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER THAT THE, THERE WILL BE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS AND A WHOLE DRAINAGE PLAN REQUIRED FOR THIS VERY LARGE DEVELOPMENT.
IT'LL, IT'LL HAPPEN IN THE PERMITTING STAGE GOING FORWARD AND UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, IN THE, IN THE DEFERRAL PERIOD, YOU, WE COULD PROBABLY GET YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION.
THIS PARTS ABOUT A FOOT LOWER THAN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT.
AND WE ALREADY HAVE FLOODING PROBLEMS AND WHEN THEY BUILD THESE THINGS, I'M SURE THEY'RE GONNA BUILD 'EM UP A FOOT TO SIT LEVEL AND THAT'S GOING TO BRING IT RIGHT BACK INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD EVEN MORE.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY FOR THE DIRECTOR OR STAFF, UM, I NOTICED THERE'S A LARGE RESERVE D WHICH IS PROBABLY DRAINAGE, BUT THE, I DON'T SEE THE PLAT NOTE.
AND SO MAYBE IN THE FUTURE ON, ON THESE ITEMS, IT MAY HELP IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT PLATINUM NOTE IS THERE SO THAT PEOPLE WILL SEE, BECAUSE IT DOES SAY RESERVE D IF IT IS DETENTION, IT WOULD SAY, UH, DETENTION, UM, DETENTION OR DRAINAGE.
SO JUST A, A NOTE FOR FUTURE, CERTAINLY.
ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS ITEM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION? MARTY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OH, YES.
COMMISSIONER ABRAHAM FOR, FOR STAFF.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION TO, JUST TO ASK
SO THIS, UM, THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY IS, IS LANDLOCKED OR, OR AT LEAST, UH, STREET, STREET LOCKED, SO TO SAY.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO THIS PROPERTY IS GONNA BE THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST IN A CASE LIKE THIS, WHERE, AND I'M JUST BASING MY, MY, MY REVIEW ON THE PLATS AND THE, UH, AND THE PLANS HERE.
IN A CASE LIKE THIS, UM, COULD WE CALL 'EM PUBLIC WORKS TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT, AT MAYBE, UH, WHAT IS THAT? 11TH STREET LOCK LOCK FIELD LOCK FIELD STREET, YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT THE, IS THERE A WAY TO BROUGHT UP AND WE, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT IN THE DEFERRAL PERIOD, CORRECT? MAY I ANSWER? SURE.
SO WHAT HAS PROBABLY HAPPENED, AND JEFF MAY KNOW BETTER THAN I, BUT I'M GONNA GO OUT AND STEP ON A LIMB FOR A MOMENT.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS PLATTED BY A LANDOWNER AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST, SO I DON'T KNOW, 30 YEARS AGO, MAYBE EVEN MORE.
DO YOU MUCH MORE, IT'S, IT'S AN OLD, VERY OLD, OKAY.
THE STREETS WERE PLATTED, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY WERE DEDICATED FOR USE BY THE CITY.
THE LANDOWNER RETAINED THE LAND WHERE THE, WHERE THE SUBDIVISIONS WOULD BE, WHERE THE HOMES, THE LOTS WOULD, UM, THE CITY DOESN'T BUILD STREETS.
HAD THIS PROPERTY BEEN DEVELOPED AND HAD HOMES BEEN PUT ON THESE LOTS, THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THE TIME WOULD'VE BEEN REQUIRED TO BUILD THESE STREETS.
BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE PROPERTY OWNER DID NOT DO THAT.
AND THIS LAND SET SAT FALLOW FOR A PERIOD OF TIME UP UNTIL TODAY.
AND SO NOW WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THIS DEVELOPER HAS PORT HAS PURCHASED JUST A PORTION OF THIS AREA, AND THE LANDOWNER THAT OWNS THE REMAINING NEIGHBORHOODS STILL DOESN'T WANNA BUILD THE STREETS.
THE CITY DOESN'T BUILD STREETS.
WE REPAIR STREETS THAT OTHER PEOPLE BUILD.
UM, AND SO WE'RE KIND OF IN A SITUATION WHERE NOBODY WANTS TO BUILD THE STREET.
I MEAN, DO, DO WE KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE ON THE APPLICATION WOULDN'T BE INTERESTED IN RENA IF IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS NOT RENA? WELL, I MEAN, WHAT DID THEY JUST MENTION? THEY TOLD US THAT, I MEAN, WE, WE KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE INTERESTED ONLY IN USING RENA BECAUSE THEY'VE TOLD US THAT'S WHAT THIS VARIANCE IS ABOUT.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IN THIS PLAT DRAWING, I MEAN, THEY DO HAVE STUB STREETS GOING OUT TO POPPY.
BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST ON PAPER, UM, THERE'S, THEY CAN'T EXTEND TO ANYTHING.
SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BE, YOU KNOW, BE MAGNANIMOUS, THEY CAN COME IN AND BUILD POPPY, BUT THE CITY DOESN'T BUILD STREETS.
JUST BRIEFLY ADD THAT THE HISTORY OF THIS MAY BE THAT THE PLAT IN QUESTION WAS FILED IN THE LAND RECORDS, UM, WHEN THIS AREA WAS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, AND LIKELY IF IT WAS EVEN IT WAS IN THE CITY LIMITS, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BEFORE THERE WAS EVEN A PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO WE'RE DEALING WITH AN ANTIQUATED
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ARTIFACT OF, OF LAND SUBDIVISION, PARTLY TO THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, PARTLY TO, UH, WAS RETAINED BY THE DEDICATOR.AND HE SUBSEQUENTLY SOLD BULKS OF LOTS THAT ARE NOW WHAT YOU SEE HERE AS A, AS A WHOLE BLOCK BEING UNDER A SINGLE OWNERSHIP.
YES, COMMISSIONER, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IMPROVED OR NOT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS? PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY CAN BE USED BY CENTER POINT BY CITY FOR WATER LINES.
I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE THE ROAD'S NOT BUILT YET, THAT LAND IS AVAILABLE FOR USE IF NEEDED AND IF SOMEBODY'S WILLING TO GO CLEAR IT, AND YEAH, IT DOESN'T, SO IT DOESN'T, THEY'RE NOT LAND LOCKED IN IN THAT SENSE.
IT JUST HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET, BUT IT IS AVAILABLE FOR USE.
THAT LAST POINT, OUR LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE REAL QUICK, SORRY.
IT'S AVAILABLE FOR THE USES FOR WHICH IT WAS DEDICATED.
IF IT'S DEDICATED FOR RIGHT OF WAY, BUT NOT UTILITIES.
CAN IT BE USED FOR UTILITIES? BUT, UM, THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, AND I'LL POINT THIS OUT THAT, THAT IN TEXAS, WE ARE PROHIBITED BY STATE LAW BASICALLY TO ONLY REQUIRE THE BUILDING OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PROPORTIONAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS TO IMPROVE RAYNA WHERE HE'S TAKING ACCESS FROM IT, BUT WE CAN'T REQUIRE HIM TO MAKE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
HE COULD BUILD THOSE STREETS IF HE IS GENEROUS AND MAGNANIMOUS AND WANTS TO START, UM, THE OTHER SIDE STREETS.
BUT, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
NO, WE COULDN'T, DOESN'T, HE'S NOT TAKING NO, THAT WAS THE ANSWER.
IT'S, IT'S AN OFFSITE IMPROVEMENT.
IS YOUR MIC ON? OH, IT LOOKS LIKE 'CAUSE DEVELOPMENT IS RUNNING NEXT TO LOCK FIELD AND THERE'S THE PAE STOPPED JUST SHORT OF THE STREET TO THE SOUTH.
SO THE ONLY CONNECTION PHYSICALLY WITH FROM THE PAES TO THE PUBLIC STREET SYSTEM IS REYNA.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE LINE OF ACCESS, HE, HE'S NOT MAKING A PUBLIC STREET TO TWO FUTURE PUBLIC STREET CONNECTION.
THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX PROBLEM.
I THINK WE HAVE A SPEAKER IN THE, IN THE CHAT.
WE'LL HEAR FROM ANOTHER SPEAKER.
I'M WITH THE NEAR NORTHWEST MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
UH, AND WE'VE BEEN WATCHING, UM, THE SERIES OF PLATS THAT HAVE COME UP FOR THIS PROPERTY.
I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS IS THE PARK AT PINE MOUNT.
THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ALREADY APPROVED, THE PLATS FOR THE PARK AT PINE MOUNT EAST ANNEX, AND THE PARK AT PINE MOUNT WEST ANNEX, WHICH RESPECTIVELY, UH, UH, BORDER 11TH SLASH LUMBER DALE 12TH SLASH LOCK FIELD.
AND THE DEVELOPERS ALREADY HAD TO DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THOSE TWO STREETS.
SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE BLOCK BETWEEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CROSSED FROM THIS, THIS CURRENT PINE PARK AT PINE MOUNT, UH, PROPOSAL AND THE BLOCK BETWEEN HAS BEEN REPLANTED AS ONE SINGLE LOT.
I'M HESITATING BECAUSE I'VE, MR. BUTLER, THERE, THERE'VE BEEN A FEW PLAT APPLICATIONS FOR THE BLOCKS TO THE SOUTH OF THAT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN RECORDED YET.
BUT YEAH, THE CENTER BLOCK HAS NOT, BUT THE TWO ANNEXES HAVE BEEN APPROVED, BUT I THINK ONE HAS BEEN RECORDED AND ONE NOT, BUT THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED BY COMMISSION.
WELL, WE CLEARLY HAVE SOME WORK TO DO ON THIS PLAT.
SO, UM, IS THERE ANY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UH, DEFER AND WHICH IS ALSO THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL MEMBER.
UM, CAYMANS, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER THE ITEM, SIR? HAYS AND POROUS PERLE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UM, THIS IS A REALLY COMPLICATED PRO PROJECT.
IT, IT'S, IT'S, I I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS THAT PLAY INTO THIS, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IF I CAN SIMPLIFY IT AS BEST I CAN, IT'S, IT'S JUST A REQUEST TO NOT WIDEN RENA STREET AND THE, THE, THE OTHER FACTORS LIKE IMPROVING THE EXISTING STREET SYSTEM, THOSE ARE KIND OF BEYOND OUR, OUR SCOPE RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS STAFF IS JUST, DOES THIS MEET THE FIVE CRITERIA, THE VARIANCES, THEIR REQUEST TO TAKE ACCESS FROM RAINA AND
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NOT PROVIDE DEDICATION? SO FAR WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE, BUT WE'RE GONNA GIVE YES.AND WE WILL DO APPRECIATE TRYING TO HOOK UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE APPLICANT.
OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 1 36, QUALITY OCEAN CYPRUS.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN THE HARRIS COUNTY ETJ EAST OF TGE, WEST OF HUFFMEISTER IN NORTH OF CYPRESS, NORTH HOUSTON.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SUBDIVISION OF 11 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG PUBLIC AND PRIVATE STREETS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING RECONSIDERATION OF THE REQUIREMENT TO EXTEND KEEPERS TRAIL AND ADAMS RUN DRIVE TO THE SITE.
STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ALONG KING CEMETERY DRIVE NORTH OF CYPRESS NORTH HOUSTON.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN EAST TO WEST STREET WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARY MEETING.
CHAPTER 40 TWO'S INTERSECTION SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
THE SITE IS EAST OF THE MARKS GLEN COMMUNITY, AN UNRECORDED SUBDIVISION WITH TWO SUBS.
STREETS ABUTTING THE SUBJECT TRACT.
THIS CONDITION HAS EXISTED SINCE THE EARLY NINETIES AND BOTH STREETS FEATURE VEHICULAR TURNAROUNDS WITHIN THEIR SUBDIVISION.
THE EXISTING TURNAROUNDS ALLOW FOR SAFE CIRCULATION OF VEHICLES WITHIN THE ABUTTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSED EAST TO WEST STREET WITHIN THE PLAT WILL ALLOW FOR SUFFICIENT ACCESS AND CIRCULATION ONCE EXTENDED THROUGH THE TRACKS TO THE EAST.
STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF CHAPTER 42.
CONSIDERING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND PROPOSED STREET, HARRIS COUNTY'S EXPRESSED NO OBJECTION AND STAFF RECOMMENDS GRANTING THE VARIANCE AND APPROVING THE PLAT FOR THE CPC 1 0 1 FORM CONDITIONS, WE'VE RECEIVED NO ADVANCED WRITTEN COMMENT.
AND THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
QUESTIONS FOR MR. BUTLER? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE CHAT IF THERE'S NO ONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 36.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? MOTION CLARK.
IS THERE A SECOND? MAD? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND THAT'LL TAKE US TO SECTIONS
[Platting Activities G - I]
G, H AND I.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SECTIONS, GH AND I AS ONE GROUP.
SECTION G EXTENSIONS OF APPROVAL CONSISTS OF ITEMS 1 37 THROUGH 1 54.
SECTION G EX, SORRY, SECTION H NAME CHANGES HAS NO ITEMS AND SECTION I CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE HAS NO ITEMS. THE PLANNING.
THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REQUEST THE APPROVAL OF ALL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SECTIONS.
GH AND I, THERE ARE NO ITEMS TAKEN OUT OF ORDER PER STAFF AND NO CHANGES IN STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
DO WE HAVE ANY UH, ITEMS? DO WE HAVE ANY ABSTENTIONS COMMISSIONER SIGLER? UM, YES.
1 38 THROUGH 1 42 FOR COMMISSIONER SIGLER.
COMMISSIONER HACH ABSTAIN FROM 1 38.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE ALL THE ITEMS IN.
UM, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, IS THERE A MOTION? VICTOR SECOND JONES.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN J ADMINISTRATIVE SECTION K
[k. Development Plats with Variance Requests (Jacqueline Brown)]
DEVELOPMENT PLAS WITH VARIANCE REQUESTS.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE HOUSTON PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM 1 55 IS 64 0 9 EDDY DRIVE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED SOUTH OF BELTWAY EIGHT EAST OF 59 AND ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF EDDY DRIVE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A REDUCED 10 FOOT BUILDING LINE IN LIEU OF THE ORDINANCE.
REQUIRED 25 FOOT BUILDING LINE ALONG EAST X FREEWAY FOR A PROPOSED COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE.
STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE LOT WAS PLATTED WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE BELTWAY EIGHT EAST OFFICE PARK SUBDIVISION WITH A 10 FOOT BUILDING LINE ALONG EASTEX FREEWAY.
THIS PORTION OF EASTEX FREEWAY IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, WAS SUFFICIENT WIDTH LINED WITH VACANT LOTS IN FEBRUARY OF 2022.
THE SUBDIVISION PLAT WAS RECORDED WITHOUT THE REQUIRED 25 FOOT BUILDING LINE.
SUBSEQUENTLY, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED PLANS TO PERMITTING UTILIZING THE 10 FOOT BUILDING LINE AS THEY WERE UNAWARE.
THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED A 25 FOOT BUILDING LINE ALONG THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
THE DISTANCE FROM BACK OF CURVE TO THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE IS APPROXIMATELY 45 FEET ALONG EAST X FREEWAY, WHICH WOULD NOT BE INJURIOUS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE.
ADDITIONALLY, ACCESS TO THE LOT IS BEING, BEING TAKEN FROM EDDIE DRIVE A LOCAL STREET AND NOT THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE REQUEST
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TO ALLOW A REDUCED BUILDING LINE OF 10 FEET IN LIEU OF THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED 25 FOOT BUILDING LINE ALONG E SIX FREEWAY.THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY ADVANCED COMMENTS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BROWN? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 1 55.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE BALDWIN? BALDWIN? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
AND THAT WILL TAKE US TO ROMAN NUMERAL TWO,
[II. Establish a public hearing date of October 13, 2022]
UM, WHICH IS TO ESTABLISH A PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF OCTOBER 30, UH, UH, OCTOBER 13TH, 2022 FOR THE FOLLOWING, UM, ARLIS PROPERTIES AT FORCE BICYCLE, BUNGALOWS, REPL NUMBER TWO BUYS.TOWN HOMES BRICK FIELDER TOWN HOMES, BRUIN VILLAS CHAMPION SOUTH PARTIAL REPL NUMBER ONE, GENEVA PLACE T'S EDITION.
MISTRAL TOWN HOMES PARK PLACE, PARTIAL REPL NUMBER SIX.
NUMBER SEVEN, PINE CREST SECTION ONE, PARTIAL REPL NUMBER ONE AND EXTENSION ROSEWOOD ESTATES PARTIAL REPL NUMBER TWO, WINTER BAY ESTATES REN WOOD PARTIAL REPL NUMBER FIVE.
AND YOAKUM GARDENS PARTIAL REPL NUMBER THREE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO SET OCTOBER 13TH FOR THE HEARINGS? MOTION CLARK.
IS THERE A SECOND? ROSENBERG? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES THERE ESTABLISHED.
AND WE GO THEN TO ROMAN NUMERAL THREE,
[III. Consideration of an Off-Street Parking Variance at 2621 Augusta Drive (Jacqueline Brown)]
WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF AN OFF STREET PARKING VARIANCE.THE SITE IS LOCATED NORTH OF WESTHEIMER ROAD AND EAST OF FOUNTAIN VIEW DRIVE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW 43 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES IN LIEU OF THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED 94 OFF STREET PARKING, PARKING SPACES FOR THE CONVERSION OF AN EXISTING DRY CLEANERS INTO A DESSERT SHOP.
STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE CHANGE OF USE OF AN EXISTING DRY CLEANERS TO A DESSERT SHOP.
AND CHAPTER 26, THE OFF STREET PARKING ORDINANCE REQUIRES THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROVIDE 94 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PROVIDE 43 SPACES, WHICH INCLUDES THE 10% BIKE REDUCTION.
THE SITE IS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO HIGH FREQUENCY BUS ROUTES AND MODERATE BUS ROUTES, AND IS ALSO SURROUNDED BY EXISTING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN THE URBAN CONTEXT OF THE SURROUNDING AREA PROVIDE THE JUSTIFICATION OF SUPPORTING THE PARKING VARIANCE REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVING THE REQUESTED VARIANCE TO ALLOW 43 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES IN LIEU OF THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED 94 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES FOR THE CONVERSION OF AN EXISTING DRY CLEANERS TO A DESSERT SHOP.
THIS, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IF NOT, THE APPLICANT IS SIGNED TO SPEAK.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I ONLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE TWO 500 YEAR OLD OAK TREES ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT.
AND WE ARE NEXT TO YOUNGMAN LIBRARY THAT HAS, UM, MANY PARKING SPACES.
AND WE HAD A MUTUALLY, UH, BENEFICIAL RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
IT WAS CANCELED BY THE CITY WHEN THE GENTLEMAN LIBRARY IN 2016 WAS REMODELED.
UM, WE HAVE NEVER BLOCKED OUR ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, WHICH WE COULD DISCUSS AT A LATER DATE.
QUESTIONS? NO, I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE, APPROVE THE REQUEST.
UH, LET ME JUST ASK FOR THE RECORD IF WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS.
UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I'LL MOVE IN FAVOR.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER BALDWIN.
OPPOSE OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
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THANK YOU.UM, PUB, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGN FOR
[IV. Public Comment]
PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE A, UH, REMARK.UM, WELL I'LL LET, I'LL LET DIRECTOR WALLACE BROWN HANDLE THIS.
I WANNA GO BACK AND REVISIT THE RESPONSE WE HAD.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN'S QUESTION ABOUT THE TIA FOR ITEMS NUMBER 19 AND 20, WHAT THE COMMISSION AND DIPTI, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BACKUP ON THIS.
I THINK I GOT IT, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I DO I DO IT CORRECTLY.
UM, I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION HAD A ROBUST CONVERSATION WHEN THIS WAS BEFORE YOU, A YEAR OR SO AGO, AND THE, UM, CPC 1 0 1 SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT A YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME STRANGELY.
UM, SO
THAT IMPLIES THAT IT WILL BE REQUIRED.
AND THAT IS NOT WHAT WE MEANT TO SAY AND THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS ON THE CPC 1 0 1.
IT WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND IF DETER, IF THEY DETERMINE THAT IT IS NECESSARY, THEN IT WILL BE REQUIRED IN THE PERMITTING STAGE.
WE WILL CONTACT THE TWO SPEAKERS WHO I BELIEVE HEARD SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE MEANT TO SAY.
AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CLEAR ON THIS.
BUT I WANTED TO BE CLEAR WITH ALL OF YOU THAT, UM, IT IS THE ENGINEER'S, IT IS A CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE.
IT IS THE EASTERN PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WHO MAKES THE DECISION.
YOU ALL DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE ONE, BUT THE NOTIFICATION WAS SIMPLY ALERTING THE PROPERTY OWNER, ALERTING THE APPLICANT THAT THEY NEEDED TO BE AWARE.
THERE MAY BE ONE REQUIRED AND, AND WE'RE SURE THAT ONE IS NOT REQUIRED.
WE ARE CERTAIN AT THIS POINT, PUBLIC WORKS HAS SAID ONE IS NOT REQUIRED YOU, THIS IS WHERE I WOULD LET THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM SAY FOR SURE IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
I'VE HAD CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY ENGINEER, BUT I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT IT IS, UH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT MUST CONFIRM.
IF A TIA IS REQUIRED OR NOT, I DON'T THINK WE CAN CONFIRM TODAY.
AND, AND THE POINT IS, IS IT IS NOT FOR US TO DIS TO DISCUSS THIS.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED BY PUBLIC WORKS AT THE PERMITTING STAGE.
AND WE, IN THE INTEREST OF FULL TRANSPARENCY, THANK YOU FOR, FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THOSE SPEAKERS.
THAT'S, YES, WE WILL SPEAK WITH THE ENGINEER ABOUT HAVING, ASKING THEM TO, BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE MEETING.
I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR WHEN THOSE QUESTIONS COME UP.
IF THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE, SHE CAN, SHE CAN REFER THOSE QUESTIONS TO THE ENGINEER'S OFFICE AND THEY CAN ANSWER THEM AT THE TIME.
YEAH, I AND THAT HAS JUST, WELL, I CAN JUST PUT IT OUT THERE.
THAT IS EASIER WHEN THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE, IT'S, IT IS EASIER AND CAN SPEAK TO US.
SO I THINK IF YOU WOULD PASS ALONG OUR WISHES THAT MAYBE A PUBLIC WORKS REPRESENTATIVE BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE ANNEX, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO US.
THEY ARE ONLINE, PRESENT ALL THE TIME AND I DO COMMUNICATE BEFORE COMING TO THE MEETING.
THEY MAY BE STILL THERE, BUT YES, I WE GOT IT THAT WE WILL REQUEST THEIR PRESENCE IN PERSON.
BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S REOCCURRING DRAINAGE, FLOODING AND TRAFFIC.
AND TRAFFIC BEING SAFETY FOR MOST PEOPLE.
AND I, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA BOG DOWN OUR, WE WE, WE NEED TO STICK TO WHAT OUR EXPERTISE IN OUR CHARGE IS IN, ON THIS COMMISSION.
BUT I TAKE YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER ABRAHAM, THAT, YOU KNOW, A UNIFORM RESPONSE ABOUT HOW THAT IS HANDLED WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD THING TO GIVE TO THE PUBLIC COMMISSIONER CLARK.
AND I WOULD REQUEST THAT IT'S A, A VERY SHORT UNIFORM ANSWER BECAUSE WE COULD GET REALLY, REALLY BOGGED DOWN.
SO I AGREE THE PHYSICAL PRESENCE IS ALWAYS GOOD BECAUSE THEN THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE CAN TALK TO THEM.
THEN YOU'VE MADE THAT CONNECTION BECAUSE THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT SHOULD BE HELD OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING.
OTHERWISE WE'LL GET BOGGED DOWN AND THINGS THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY PURVIEW FOR AND WE GET, THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO TROUBLE WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
AND IT'S NOT FOR US TO DO THAT.
UM, OKAY, WELL I DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYTHING ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY AT THIS POINT.
NO ONE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
THEN A MOTION, A MOTION TO ADJOURN WOULD BE IN ORDER.
IS THERE A SECOND? HEES HEINZ.
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WE ARE ADJOURNED.